Is it true that they are winning?
>>536554854who knowswe'll find out when one side surrenders/backs out
>>536554854no, of course not
>>536554854Not at all
>>536554854yes
don't believe the internetyou should join their forces to find out
>>536554854Yes they have been hitting the ziggers very hard lately
thank you fsbniggers for reminding us how pussya is winning so hard
>>536554906>whenif*This war benefits everyone but Russia and Ukraine
>>536554854Tactically/operationally, it's a stalemate. Positional/attritional warfare. Russia is gaining in some directions, losing in others. Their rate of gain having drastically slowed (picrel). Strategically, Ukraine is winning.
>>536554854Ukraine reverted within weeks all gains Russia made in 2025.They suddenly did much much better after the USA stopped all "aid", the USA was caught dozens of times giving Ukrainian Intel to the Russians and ever since they run around like headless chicken.Neither side is winning and only Europe wins since a dead slaveshit is a win for Europeans.
>>536554854They are winning in unconventional ways.
>1 lost by this ID>memeflag>is losing territory and half your population winning?
>>536555368>Ukraine reverted within weeks all gains Russia made in 2025.Lmfao but they didnt. Holy shit the shilling isnt even close to reality.
More like they are no so obviously losing anymore.
>>536554854Can't tell, Russia can't steamroll Ukraine and Ukraine can't retake lost territory, so the outcome depends on which side's economy will break first
Russia is still holding like 20% of Ukrainian territory how is that winning
>>536555571Ukrainian economy is getting GIBS from Europe and Europe can sustain that support forever.Russians don't have paypigs and their oil infrastructure is bombed nonstop.
>>536555652Putin put those 4 oblasts as core Russian territories in their constitution and in the Russian point of view its Ukraine occupying Russian lands since they only fully control 1 of the 4 oblasts and not the other way.
>>536554854it's bullshit, but I believe it
>>536555844Those gibs won't last forever
>>536555990>Ukraine is whole, russia is not!!!Kek the eurocuck mind is incredible
>>536554854ukraine was expected to fold in under a week.both sides have lost, but this loss hurts russia more.
>>536554854>Is it true that they are winning?In the Canadian sense, yes
this war is the biggest fuckup in russian history
>>536556098Europe will stop gibs only if the far left or far right (center) parties take rule but that's not happening anytime soon.>>536556103Under Russian law yes that's true.Reason was that pidor conscription meat is not allowed to fight outside of Russia but since those areas are core Russian lands now it is legal to put those people on the front.But what they achieved after 2 million killed pidors is pathetic but since Russians are worthless bugs it's a price worth paying.
>>536554854Haven't you noticed the seethe and spam going on in just the last 48 hours from your russian kike brethren
>>53655485420% of their country is occupied so clearly
>>536556196WWII was much much worse, they lost 27 million communist swines all for them collapsing in the 90s anyway losing more land than they lost in WWI against Germany.They all died for literally nothing.
>>536554854They're winning by not losing. But, their country is being gutted and only propped up militarily as long as the US keeps sending them money.So, in reality they're losing.
>>536554854Yes, when your enemies kill you. You win.Or something like that.Some satanist leaf said so, now he is "dating" the black phallus worshiper.All very inhumane, but that's why satan offered all the kingdoms in the world to Jesus Christ to tempt him.The kingdoms are his. All of you better start laughing because someone grim is cooking.And life is better as a comedy.lol.
Well they kill a thousand vatniks a day, and russias made zero progress in the last two years.they're doing something right
>>536556425>Reason was that pidor conscription meat is not allowed to fight outside of Russia but since those areas are core Russian lands now it is legal to put those people on the front.That's called the SMO zone and conscripts are not allowed to be there without signing a contract. You aren't retarded enough to think there's no legal distinction between the zone of conflict and the regular territory?
>>536556611>USA sending moneyYou guys are so delusional it's ridiculous.You haven't send anything when king Israel slave was elected.
>>536556685Would a Russian ever lie? Surely not lmao
>>536555137The videos of the Colombian mercenaries is heartbreaking. They joined to help Ukraine and left tortured and mutilated.
>>536556611>as long as the US keeps sending them moneyThe US stopped sending them money two years ago.
>Day 1,564 of a 3 day SMO>Are they winning???
>>536556840Most miggers believe selling overpriced weapons to Europe is actually aid.
Russia is winning, it's obvious to anyone who looks at the situation intelligently.
>>536555368Why couldn’t Ukraine hold Kursk?
>>536556936It'll just take 60 more years at this rate
>>536556936It's the 5th year of their 3 day SMO fighting a bloody attritional war and as the invaders they have the worse part getting more deaths than Ukrainian retards.They're not winning anything.
>>536557017It was a gesture of goodwill and an orderly retreat
>>536556775Lie about the legal definitions? Can you stop acting hysterical for a single moment in your life and attempt to comprehend what you're arguing against?
>>536557160There's videos of russia starving and beating people until they sign the contract. People have been arrested for it.You bragging that it's an all contract force carries little weight
>>536557245I'm not bragging. There's a big leap between shit you're describing happening and the retardation the German flag was peddling about conscripts being sent there because legally it's Russian territory
>>536557245Their newest trick is jailing anyone for nonsense reasons giving high sentences and they can get out of it by being a meat bag in the war.Russia is clearly running out of people who want to serve. It's not so bad like it is in Ukraine but ukrainians at least have a reason to fight,b they fight to stop Russian imperialism and their genocidal russification. Russians on the other hand have absolutely no reason to fight besides money.
>>536557245If what you say is true then why don’t we get dozens of videos every week of Russians getting kidnapped in vans like we see in Ukraine?
>>536557421they don't get kidnapped in public. They get beaten in private until they sign.
>>536557421We don't know who exactly gets kidnapped.It could be Russian colonisers which would be a great thing.
>>536554854>winningMany such cases.
>>536555397>They are winning in unconventional ways."Ukraine is increasingly a country held together, behind the military lines, by women.""They are running civil society organisations, advocating for their country abroad and becoming activists.""using her fluent English to advocate for Ukraine""Unlike men of the same age, who are generally barred from leaving the country, millennial women can choose to stay or leave Ukraine; or whether or not to volunteer for the army. Such decisions can be accompanied by agonising guilt.""It is a generation of women whose lives are accompanied by grief as their peers are killed in combat. Organising funerals and making sure their own wills are in order, are all-too common facets of life for Ukrainian millennials.""As she sips tea in a gleaming-white office in Kyiv, a fortnight before staging a science and tech conference""We sit here and drink tea in our nice office but we still have to remember that this office was bombed in December, and we are only borrowing it, because our own office was bombed a month ago."«Before 2013, she was cycling round Africa, partying in Italy, and not thinking very much about the future. The pivot to a career of public service and activism to help shape Ukraine’s future was the Maidan revolution and her rage at “seeing how the police were beating up students”.»"Millennial women are blooming in a way – we are leading communities, becoming politicians, leading NGOs, becoming activists and being the voices of Ukraine in the international arena because educated millennial women know English, and men are not allowed to go abroad." - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/30/ukraine-women-wartime-wives-mothers-fighters-activists
Russia certainly isn't winning. I don't understand why Putin just doesn't stop and pretend the territories Russia conquered were worth it.
>>536557911He's already added 4 oblasts to the constitution. He can't stop half way through
>>536554854Winning lost territory? No. Winning sovereignity from Russia and becoming a drone tech industrial powerhouse? Yes.
>>536557911It's the rest of donstek what they need to get a political victory to their domestic audience. They can give up expanding rest of oblast but the donstek part is must for putin either by force or negotiation even if it means demilitarisation of that region.
The tide is turning. Russia thought they could win a war of attrition but now they are finding out what FAFO means. Odds of rusniggeria collapse before the year is over are increasing by the day.
>>536557911> The country holding large amounts of it's enemies lands is not winningKay!
>>536558208>Russia thought they could win a war of attrition but nowAnd they were right.A quick look at the map proves it.
>>536558074>Winning sovereignity from Russia and becoming a drone tech industrial powerhouse? Yes.Ukraine is not soveirgn.Part is owned by Russia, the rest by jews and mutts.Ukraine is dying.
>>536556103It's what it is, kneeler-kun.
>>536558074>drone tech industrial powerhouseThat's really not a thing. Drones are meant to be cheap and mass produced. So to survive modern time you need to domestically make your own drones instead of relying on ukraine or russia. Sure their expertise help but most countries are already transitioning to self sufficiency
>>536558330Eh sovereign enough. Especially compared to what will happen if russia conquers them
>>536558330>Ukraine is dying.goodlet it dieburn it all
>>536558175But it's not worth it. Conquering the entire oblast will result in thousands of casualties for Russia for something ultimately irrelevant.>>536558270Yeah. Japan wasn't winning in WW2 despite controlling a good part of China. It's not rare actually.
>>536558544This but ziggers. TZD must continue
>>536558544At this rate they'll be taking tens of millions of Russians with them
>>536557911They will win by attrition and by taking all ukrainian fortresses, Ukrainian loses (dead only) increased to 12-15:1 in recent monthsAccording to putin's words ukraine had more deserters than dead this spring, so its the final stage
>>536558586Yes but without it putin political career is over. Russia won't collaspe from this war but putin will sure if he fails to accomplish that.
>>536558662So like 2 more weeks?
>>536558662>Ukrainian loses (dead only) increased to 12-15:1 in recent monthsZigger cope is getting more and more desperate while ukie drones are bombing russia daily now. Kinda hilarious
>>536554854No, the gulag summer camps are a sign that russia is winning
>>536558535>Eh sovereign enoughIt's literally a puppet state led by a jewish tyrant that was installed by Israel.It has not an ounce of soveirgnity.
>>536558586>Japan wasn't winning in WW2 despite controlling a good part of China.This isn't WWII, nigger.And Japan was getting its ass kicked in many other places.
RUSSIAN TENNIS PLAYER JUST WIPED HER ASS ON YOUR FLAG AND BEST PLAYER
>>536558778No, they elected him fair and square.Cry more.
>>536558698>>536558718Russia is holding large quantities of Ukrainian lands, it already won, it just wants to take more, LOL.
>>536558798Like Russia in Africa?
>>536554854no lol not even close
>>536558829Russias gains over the last two years have been pitiful. And this year is the worst of all
There are no winners, both sides are losing big.
>>536558812No, Ukraine's democratically elected leader was couped by the CIA in 2014, Ukraine had no fair elections since.>>536558840Russia is still in Africa and Russia has no major wars in that region, it's just some mercs up to all sorts of crap, it's irrelevant to Russia.Again, the winner is the one holding vast amount of lands, the best part of Ukraine I might add, Putin is just so happy with his success that he wants to liberate even more lands from ZOG occupation.
>>536558880> Russia is winning too slowlyAmerica is getting bled out while Russia takes more and more lands, LOL!Hope Putin takes his sweet ass time so America can lose more resources.>>536558883But only one is getting lands. : )
>>536558919>CoupedNo, they ousted their own leader, and it's their right to do so. Why would Ukraine want to be ruled by someone that's going to cuck themselves to russia?
>>536559015>No, they ousted their own leaderIf the Ukrainians really wanted him out, they would have just voted him out.Victoria Neuman the American jewess organized this violent coup.
>>536554854Obviously no. Russia is enormous and has countless people to throw into the meat grinder. We won ww2 because Russia committed 20-30 million men.
>>536558959>Hope Putin takes his sweet ass timeHe has no choice but to take his sweet ass time. Going any faster will turn into a meat grinder of Russian troops.This is going to take decades at this rate
>>536554854no
>>536558829>Russia is holding large quantities of Ukrainian landsAnd you think they get to keep it? Lmao.
>>536559094>He has no choice but to take his sweet ass time. Going any faster will turn into a meat grinder of Russian troops.Nope, he can just charge in and grab vast amount of lands but that would lead to America spending less resources on this conflict.So it's better for Russia wins slowly, while ZOG copes about it on twatter.
>>536558586Thouthands for russians and tends of thuthands for ukrainians, ukrainian sub ethnos shrinks with the fastest speed in world so it will be russian forever>>536558699Highly likely this year will be spend to take remaining fortresses in donbass, then we can expect new round of negotiationsNegotiations will take place after summer & winter inflationary/fuel shock in EU and one more blackout winter in ukraineIf it fails russia will start siege of zaporozhie and advance in sumy and kharkovThis is medium scale war, so russia can fight for decades, there is no need to rush anymoreits clear for all there will be no restoration of busines relatations with west and world is plummeting into decades of wars.USA empire collapses (just like British before) and everybody will be trying to restructure trade
>>536558959>I want more dead rusniggers at the expense of some American equipmentBased, me too
>>536559157>>I want more dead rusniggersBarely any are dying and Russia is getting top tier real estate in exchange.
>>536559044Voting him out is one option, if you don't mind him slowly fucking up your country on the way out. Ousting him quicker than that, and not giving him the chance to fuck up the country faster is another option.They clearly don't like pro russia leaders and for good reason. Russia is trying to kill them
>>536554854>Is it true that they are winning?Yeah, that's why they've conquered about 20% of Russia. Obviously the side that's losing wouldn't occupy the other country.
Ukraine is fighting for LGBTQ+ rights
>>536559150>Nope, he can just charge in and grab vast amount of landsSuuuuure. He let a million troops die for strategic reasons
>>536559213>if you don't mind him slowly fucking up your country on the way outNo proofs for this.A quick look at what happened to Ukraine after he was removed proves otherwise.He was removed for rejecting the IMF.Piss off, avi.
>>536559208There's a million dead troops, zigger
>>536559261> Millions of Russian diedAbsolute state of NAFO delusions!Whatever makes you feel better, ZOG tranny, Russia is taking lands left right and center, while Ukrainians slowly die out.Cope with that however you like.
>>536559291Just a million!Make it six!
>>536559266>No proofs for this.They weren't going to take that chance.Ziggers out. Pro Ukraine candidates in.
>>536559154What you wish is not what will happen. Russia lost this war already.
>>536559223its just one jew at the top thats the source of this war and its continuation.if he wasnt a complete brazen clown -and most of all a jew-, that war could've been entirely precented.
>>536559310You are full of shit.
>>536559322>Make it six!In due time.Or you can turn around and go home, and save your people's lives
>>536554854They are winning the Great Replacement race.Ukraine will be the first white country completely genocided and replaced with niggers.
>>536559477No wonder Ukraine hates russia.
>>536554854They have successfully managed to repelna full invasion and keep Russian forces confined to a small strip on the border for almost five years now, with no meaningful progress being made by either side, and attacking Russian infrastructure within their borders. This is a win to a large extent, or at the very least making sure both sides lose.
>>536558662KD of 15:1 yet puccia still can't win?Why is Russia so bad at war?
>>536554854looks like winning to me
>>536556645>t. ihir hilimivski from ciliradi iblist
>>536559623You should see russia
>>536559382In the start ukrainian infantry was much more motivated than today, todat >80% are bussified, so there is no chances to take anything backAny siege will cost 100k dead from ukrainian side with extreme k:d ration, we have seen it before from buhmutt, counter offensive to sudjaThose numerous counter-offensives are the reason why ukraine lost the war military way, it is still trying to change outcome politicially (with help of EU), but it will not work in this caseEU & Ukraine refusal to implement trump-putin agreements will cost additional 400k dead from ukrainian side and more money & land, they are already thing of the pastso prolongation of the war is the only thing that NAFO won
>>536556098Europe just had their most pro Russian leader voted out of power anon
>>536559642For an Aussie your spellings impecible. Suspiciously so.
>>536557029>all warfare is linear and this is like starcraft where you have to destroy the enemy base to win>>536557067you're not even trying mehmet
>>536559477>MemeflagYou hope Ukraine will let you move there. Fucking jeet. They won't
>>536559664You are full of shit.
>>536559697Destroy the enemies base? Heavens no. Nowadays it's about disabling drone swarms. That's way harder
>>536558662>Ukrainian loses (dead only) increased to 12-15:1 in recent monthsHahaha
>>536558662So... Ukraine is losing 500k-1M men every month? Holy shit.
>>536559664Show your flag
>>536554854Is being ethnically cleansed and systematically asset stripped in the process, winning? What do they get at the end of it?>Fight the Russians so we can cut Europe off from affordable energy, your reward is a failed state owned by BlackRock.
>>536558535the ukraine would be objectively better off if they'd accepted russian demands at the start of the war. they'd have control of now off their territory than they do now, they'd have that 20 million off population who fled the country never to return still living on their soil, they'd have far less of their own citizens as corpses and amputees
>>536559903>Surrender and let russia slaughter youEh, pass
>>536559903And Russia would be better of if they didnt start this war yet you faggots never criticise them
>>536554854I dont see how russia wins at this point. Considering war has clear phases such as>open war>later insurgencyRussia has not even come close to defeating Ukraine army to point that Ukraine forces operate even inside Russia blowing up infrastructure. And so far for russia more deaths than even USA in Vietnam or Russias own defeat when they attacked Afghanistan in 80s. Every week it goes on it just produces more death in russia less stable society and future. Especially because russias entire political class are all men in their 70s and 80s with no new generation to replace them. You start to get the feel the Russian leaders keep the war on to keep themselves alive from being killed by the people
>>536558718Russian drones and missiles pummel the ukraine with far greater destruction in each salvo than the ukraine has managed in their whole drone offensive. it simply doesn't get talked about because it happens with such regularity that it is considered a normal every day event
>>536559983>Russian drones and missiles pummel the ukraine with far greater destruction in each salvo than the ukraine has managedNo. They don't.
>>536559940Rusnigs are unable to admit that rusniggeria ever did something wrong. You can even see it in their diaspora, they actually believe russia stronk, russia good, czar is god and makes no mistakes.
>>536559291zigger propaganda. russia has lost 17 trillion killed
>>536559903Ukraine would be in a better situation if they actually genocided Russian colonisers in dumbass and luganda.Sadly that never happened just like all the made up "oppression".
>>536559983Russia mostly hits civilian targets
>>536559586There is no need to rush in sieges>>536559787Yes, thats deadonly, there are also thouthands of desertersIt could be propaganda, but putin claimed that ukraine lost more deserters than dead this spring>>536559855>so much butthurt>>536559835>kraine is losing 500k-1MNever claimed itNAFO is losing in average 25k-35k per month, russians are losing from 1- 3k, it depends on monthRecently this number decreased to close to 1k since there are more big battles only slowsiegesIn May russia lost around 1k, ukrainian loses were 10k dead + 20k deserters + heavy wounded>>536559727No, you are full of sheet, jeet
>>536560072I heard it was 16 trillion
>>536554854No they will run out of soldiers before the Russians do.
>>536560048They dont have a choice really because putin signed into law emergency war powers that makes it illegal to criticize russia. I imagine those russians living in eg australia still have family in russia. If he gets caught saying politically incorrect things his family will be arrested/tortured. For example russian students who protested the war were sent to jail. One student made anti islam remarks and was sent to an all muslim prison where he was gang raped daily.
>>536559767simply kill the operators. rubicon are experts
>>5365600721 year ago Putin and medvechud said that over 2 million Russians are killed so far.... 1 year ago...
>>536560110When in 2050? 2060? Lavrov is 76 and putin 73 they dont have that kind of time left.
>>536560085They hit Samsung hq a few days ago. Wonder what Samsung did to piss them off?
Absolutely they are not winning. The giveaway is western media going into a frenzy about the successes of drone strikes on St Petersburg and oil facilities. This is done to keep the normies ignorant of the real situation on the battlefield. Russia it seems, to their own detriment, has no interest in an information war.
>>536560148they aren't calling the shots. the chabad mafia is.
>>536560129Rubicon got btfo when their training school got destroyed in staroblisk. Then their base at Donetsk airport came under sustained attack killing many of them. Compared to Ukrainian drone forces they are nothing.
>they are winning?No.
>>536560087NAFO has troops in Ukraine? I was not aware. Can you give a source for that 25k-35k month claim? Such as which batallions, and a name or two?
It also baffles me how their pride stops ethnic Russians from even thinking if this war will be benificial for Russia.When the US and Iran had their little spergout this year people in the US went nuts if this will affect the economy badly.Russia prepared economically for this war since 2014 as to dampen the negative effects but you cant really keep going like that forever without any negative effects.Losing western trading partners and getting sanctioned is more of a badge of honor for them since they keep going for now.Meanwhile a shitton of money is put into defense that could be used elsewhere during peace time. Does anyone question it? In any other country than Russia yes. In Russia itself no. Russian mentality since like forever is "nothing ever happens unless i see it" but when things eventually do fall apart qho knows what will happen
>>536559939you really think russia wanted to just murder every the ukrainian? are you actually retarded?
>>536559977russia has always been this way. like you say the mafia has too keep the scam going or it all falls apart. cant risk a rebellion thats how you end up dead. stop the war you look like a weak cuck retard that basically achieved nothing. keep the war going you just keep getting btfo every week, month, maybe this even leads to a cascade of line collapse or what seems to be happening now with severe logistical problems keep the front supplied
>>536560087So show your flag. What are you hiding?
>>536560129Yeah, that seems real simple.You know it's only a matter of time before the drones are guided by AI, right?
>>536560020>>536560085lmao you guys really just believe everything you hear on TV don't you
>>536559472I know man, I totally believe your delusional numbers!>>536559437Seethe harder, kike lover.>>536559705Nobody wants to move into Ukraine, it's dying out.Not even Ukrainian want to live their.
>>536560276It's a jeet. It's always a jeet.
Their country is being destroyed and Russia is not, so only by the most insane and depraved standards, they are 'winning' by still existing
>>536560222>has no interest in an information war.They absolutely fucking do you moron
>>536560277russia already has semi-autonomous AI guided drones so you're late to that one you obese nigger
>>536559977> I don't see how the side holding large portions of his enemies lands can win this.LOL!
>>536560266I wouldn't take the risk. Never assume the person slaughtering your people is going to show mercy.Its like assuming an intruder in your home won't kill you and your family. Why risk it?
>>536555133Checked. The ukraine is ahead with the most goy blood sacrifices for greater israel.
>>536560292>>536560299I'm currently in Kyiv. Seeing for myself. You're full of shit.
>>536560341So does Ukraine
>>536560332They clearly don't.They have been fairly quiet, while ZOG has been seething across social media.
>>536560407Show flag jeet.
>>536560266Yes. Are you actually the retarded, esl sukhdeep?
>>536560397I am in Donbass, seeing for myself!
>>536554854nope
>>536560407A: show your flagB: Russia puts a shitton of money into online propaganda
uhg are pathetic losers
>>536560232>actually these two events that targeted civilians and children totally owned the world's premiere drone operator group
>>536560443More lies. Show flag.
>>536560482Evidently false.The jewish owned media outlets are covered in kike propaganda.JewTube even banned RT.
>>536560503>the world's premiere drone operator groupOk. Now I know you're just shitposting.
>>536560501Their official logo is a pile of dead russians
>>536560582That is a beautiful picture of a very strong person :)
>>536560526>Evidently false (no evidence)Cool now show flag
>>536560582You really got him with that AI edit!Goyim, BTFO!
>>536560606Read the next line, nigger.
russia could very well end up losing the war. perhaps not a total loss but an eventual capitulation of already held territory. this will happen for two main reasons>russia is very old school doctrine and not well suited for active adaptation. this doctrine of meatwave attrition etc.>crumbling logistics. having the supply lines constantly bombed to shit. makes it very difficult for the assaulting forces. badly equipped, trained etc these two reasons i think are the main issues that are creating the most severe problems for rus. the ukies forced to adapt tactics very quickly and have to be very smart about how they commit resources, attacks have to be selected to inflict highest possible return. flexible strategy more similar to asymmetric insurgency. have to focuses on killing efficiently, and destroying supply lines quickly. attacking forces typically have to attack in a 3:1 ratio which russia appears to be struggling with massively. simply keeping this action sustained long term becomes harder as time progresses
>>536560638Show flag jeet
>>536560725Russia took vast amounts of Ukrainian lands and keeps getting more.Writing walls of cope won't change that.
>>536560757Silence, Paki!
>>536554854Yes. 2 more weeks.
>>536560778Russia has lost land they conquered for 3 months straight now. Show flag, sukhdeep dikshit.
>>536560725Russia will also need more people drafted soon, targets in St. Petersburg and Moscow are attacked, oil refineries are burning, the economy is not doing the best and progress in Ukraine is basically nonexistant. Russia will face big interior problems at this rate sooner or later
>>536554854don't know if they're winning, but russia effectively blocked telegram, is forcing their citizens to install gov't spy app instead, and is unable to protect from drones bombing shit inside russia, so it should tell you who's losing
No. They've been losing since at least 1932.
>>536560931You forgot your VPN, lampshade.
>>536560250Ukrainian authorities themselves, they admitted they are mobilizing 30-40k per monthThere is also flow of wounded, + 10-15k wounded return to serivice each month, only heavy wounded are demobilizedThere is also outflow of deserters, There is no rotation in ukrainian army, its one way ticketIf we take initial army and mobilized reservists (2022), add volunteers (2022) and involuntarily mobilized (2022-2026) then deduct deserters and heavy wounded , deduct current army size we will have around 1.5 -1.7 mln dead from ukrainian side. There also only around 12-15k dead foreign mercenaries, so they dont impact numbers muchError is caused by the fact that its impossible to get nformation about ukrainian army size from open sources correctlyWe can count russian loses same way, but it will be incorrect since number of new contractors almost matched staffing levelRussia loses will be close to 150k, russian uk based oppositon counted 210k, reality can be around 140-150k army, former dpr and wagner combined + 10-20k heavy wounded- demobilized due to end of contract, but its impossible to get this information in open sourcesRussians shills should ask their curators to update numbers about ukraine and russia, so we can see real situation lol
>>536560987go away memeflag shitskin, at least post your geoflag before talking shit
>>536560931> If you're not dependant on our Jewish plantir device that feeds intel on your whole fucking country to your greatest geopolitical enemy, you loseI guess Russia is winning
>post your flag jeet, you're brown !uhg seem to be a bunch of worthless trannies
Ukraine has been winning since March 2022. It was dicey for a few weeks in February, but everything after that is a formality.I find it absolutely hilarious that the same brain-dead westoid media that have been crying that the Russian victory is inevitable because they've advanced another 100 meters and captured another Shitpissivka (pre-war population: 3) just a few weeks ago, has now done a complete 180 and spam how it's completely over for Russia because UA drones can now explode things 10 km deeper into Russian heartland than for the previous 4 years.Low-IQ people are just utterly unable to comprehend things in a war happening over the span of years instead of seconds. Things like the improvement of Ukrainian deep strike capabilities, the degradation of Russian air defences, and the collapse of the Russian economy have been happening at a steady pace for years, and will continue to happen at the steady pace for even more years.Tl;dr: The war will continue at least until 2036 and will end with Russia wiped off the map.
Ziggers seething
>>536561071Cool now show flag
>>536560503>Drone operators are civiliansSure thing zigger
>>536560992>Russians shills should ask their curators to update numbers about ukraine and russia, so we can see real situation lolWell do I see this funny graph flowing around. I will just leave it here.
>30 retarded posts on his break from uhg>YOU'RE SEETHING!!
>>536561079Can you post your demographic pyramid?
>>536561079Western media is sensationalist and retarded and its like reading stuff from a toddler for toddlers. Its still based on reports with accurate data mostly so you gotta adjust your brain to filter out that stuff
>>536561079ukraine has been losing ever since the failed crimea invasion. ever since then its been one stupid thing after another.
Wars are the Jews harvest
>>536561130It's always 100% guaranteed they will send at least one over from /uhg/.
>>536561160its on his donated laptop, he left it at home, when he comes back from the underground metro wearing his women's costume he will show you whats what with another pre-typed post
>>536561079>Ukraine has been winning since March 2022Lolololololol!>>536561011> Literal kike calling anyone a shitskinLOL!
>>536560883severe problems are beginning to show deep within the rus territory. it is to be expected that ukraine suffers some these problems. ukr is the one being attacked by a much larger country/econ. however they are also the defender, being the attacker is always more difficult. speed is crucial. the action has ground to a halt for years this is never good for an attacking force.having home advantage is a massive benefit. ukr just draws forces into their territory and those soldiers never leave. they get sucked in and bones spit out. this is obvious to see happening. it boils down to how much men/resources rus is capable of committing to the fight. constantly getting forces and supply btfo by drones has made any possible advance extremely costly if not outright impossible. it appear to be a losing endeavour. ukr appears to be holding the line and rus is not going anywhere.
>>536561121Have a (You) HIVan. I don't know how much prostitutes cost these days in russia but it can't be much more than the price of a carton of butter.
>>536561211You can tell /chug/ didn't send anyone. No one's spamming anime instead of talking about the war.
>>536554854Win what exactly? Has Russia agreed to withdraw? Is Russia unable to exchange blows anymore? How long can the rest of the world pay for Ukraine's economy (including pensions) for? What is the cost of every other country massively borrowing money to give to Ukraine? With most of Ukraine's working age men fighting Russia, who is producing the goods and services in Ukraine for domestic consumption? How is domestic demand being met without a workforce?
>>536561417Show flag
>>536554854If you mean jews by "they" then yes the people? Most certainly not.
>>536561457You're a mutt posting from Ramstein Air Base
>>536557789>"Ukraine is increasingly a country held together, behind the military lines, by women."This shit pisses me off. Fuck globohomo and their roasties. Also, neither side is winning, and haven't done so for at least 1.5 years.
(((NATO's))) goyim death march in the Ukraine is yet another jewish ritual mass murderfest; a sacrifice to Lord Moloch.
>>536554854We are not winning anonLet the jews psyop you and make you think that worshipping the jew is good and it will make your problems disappear
>>536561807>NATO>goyim death march>less than 10k KIANorway's not beaing the jew worshipping allegations
>>536557911>I don't understand why Putin just doesn't stop and pretend the territories Russia conquered were worth it.That would make him look defeated, while with his wartime economy he can at least boast about some economic growth without (yet) conscripting people from Moscow and St Petersburg.
>>536558270Russia was supposed to take those in a matter of weeks at most. It's year 5 you braindead vatnig, KEK.
>>536561857>>less than 10k KIA> Kikes thinks anyone buys into his numbers
>>536554854They sure are winning the depopulated and jeeted award
>>536562156>Russia was supposed to take those in a matter of weeks at most.Oh is that your next cope, LOL!> Russia is winning too slowlyFucking laughable, LOL.In the mean time, mutts lost to literal Afghan goat fuckers.Russia is BTFO'ing the whole of NATO and all you can do is cope!
>>536562156>>536562093> MacouLOL, nice VPN.Seems the kike remembered his VPN this time. >>536560987
>>536562219>mutts lost to literal Afghan goat fuckers.Russia lost to them too. Shattered the USSR.
>>536562326>Russia lost to them too. Never happened. The Soviet backed goverment in Afghanistan stayed up years after the Russians backed off, even. > Shattered the USSRGorby did that not the Afghans.
>>536554854Midwit filter. Both sides are losing and just fighting to not be the bigger loser.
>>536560987>lampshade
>>536560438that's the name of the country. the ukraine. if you're from the ukraine you're a the ukrainian
>>536564127the australia can go fuck itself
>>536554854They're winning against their people big time.
they're winning in the sense that it should have been over 3.5 years ago.in reality - neither side is winning yet.regardless of declares themselves the winner when its over, +10 years later, ukraine will be a nice modern country, behind other euro countries, but slowly and surely catching (like the baltics are now) and russia will still be a shit hole.
>>536564819Assuming it won't entirely collapse, in +10 years Ukraine will be Israel 2.0.
>>536554854we stopped the zigger movement, took the initiative back and increased significantly mid and deep strikers. and some regions in moscow controlled regions lately suffer from fuel shortages, especially severely in crimea. that's about it for now.
>>536554854Nobody wins until Eastern Europe is nuked.Then the rest of the world wins.We don't want these stupid snownigger Baltics, Fins, cuck Swedes and Poles in the EU anymore.
>>536554854yeh, (((they))) are
>>536565322spain was occupied by arabs for 800 years, you're literally a swarthy shitskin
>>536554854Yes, so far it looks like total Jewish victory.
>>536556570Atleast we don't speak Russian. Without Hitler we would be gone
>>536559099Putin has openly said several times, that antisemitism and national socialism should be completely erased
>>536554854Yes. Replacing hohols with jeets increases the number of winners in the country
>>536555283good. fuck them both
>>536554854They are gaining ground but I wouldnt call it winning. Both sides have been losing since 2014.
>>536554854They're winning at losing
>>536554854Yes, and no. They're most likely going to give up land at the end of the day. However, they basically crippled Russia and killed anyone from seeing them as a global threat even close to America. The classic "they lost but they did knock Russia on their ass more than once."
>>536566733I've noticed for the last few days you nafoids have been spamming this but you never show a map where the gains are.
This war has basically revealed that russia is a rump state leftover from the ussr. Theyre actually too weak to win a war that they meticulously planned for 10 years against a very poor neighbour. Theyre so pathetic that they have to beg iran, china and north korea for tech, resources and manpower
>>536556825no pow status for mercs
>>536565322Pretty jewish post, innit?
>>536562410The Royal Afgan government had free healthcare equal and education for men and women so NATO couped them.(Operation Cyclone where the CIA taught Bin Ladan how to terrorism)Iraq had free healthcare and equal education for men and women so NATO couped them.Libya had free healthcare equal and education for men and women so NATO couped them.Syria had free healthcare equal and education for men and women so NATO couped them.Iran has free healthcare equal and education for men and women ........
>>536554854If they were there wouldn't be so much Indian hate.
>>536554854They're winning so hard that the EU will send male refugees back to be conscripted lmao
>>536555990Lmao that cant be real
>>536566780>They're most likely going to give up land at the end of the day.No. They are not.
>>536567523Now tell the whole truth.....
>>536555133fpbp
>>536567581>ukraine didnt give up landYou will never be a woman
>>536561071>t.
>>536567765I'm not seeing it.
>>536567717Cope and seethe Jimbobski jr from Ohio oblast.
>>536567990So you are saying anyone who tells the truth is a Russian?How exactly is Zelensky going to get back what is now Russian territory?What about the people living there?Is genocide on the kike of kiev's menu?
>>536554854yup they started another cauldron so that means even more excuses for money and human catching. Zelensky and his goons must be closing in as billionares or multi by now. Who'd thought proxy war managers are the most paid businesses.
>>536566588The thing jews fear the most is sane neutral minded normal people. Racist retards are mandatory for them to complete their world dominance scheme europe, middle east and world. Its why jidf has agents like that girl that plays blackjack or poker streamer that constantly says racist dude bro shit. Its part of their war manual keep the youth retarded to along with their insanity. If everyone was sane and calls a jews out for being mass murderer, racist freaks they be in big trouble.
in the competition over who can get the most white people killed? yes
>>536567218I don't know, for some reaon jews are flocking here, in Poland and elsewhere in Eastern Europe and leave the enlightened West they helped create (aka violent brown infested shithole). Problem is jews being brown inbred degenerate murderers themselves, they cannot help but destroy our societies too using exactly the same methods.
>>536554854They are both losing but anons on both sides think they are winning, which shows how stupid they are.
>>536560621He turned into an ugly old man for some woman. He's full of shit he was never an actual troon just a CIA sideshow lol
>>536554854Coco is that you?
Ukraine has not fully captured (and hold for more than a week) a single settlement in 2 years.The military conscription age is now 23 and they had to beg EU to deport the over a million Ukrainians males of military age now, in 2027.Does this look like winning for you?
>>536554854Its more of a cost based victory. If we dont consider Ukraine as a country but just as some sort of enemy force that is just there, and Russia is the mighty bear, it would mean that russia is indeed losing hard because the benefits of getting rid of that evil force does not cover the costs that would take to do so. It also wouldnt cover the gains you would get. Because to Ukraine it doesnt matter how much they win, they can terrorize russia by sending more and more drones deepr and deeper, demonishing every infrastructure. Russia however can do less and less against it. Since they cannot advance on the battlefield, it becomes exponentially more expensive to deal with Ukraine. At this stage it would be more beneficial to give Ukraine 2014 borders back and just fuck off, but russians elites keep clinging onto their gay "pride" of le mighty bear.
>>536557017Why couldn't Russia hold Kupyansk or Kherson?
>>536556570They won. Your country lost.
>>536557114Getting surrounded and wiped out was a gesture of goodwill? An orderly retreat into the grave?>>536557067So why are there 100 dead hohols for every Russian? Are the hohols eating them or something? In some body swaps it was literally 1000 dead hohols to 0 Russians
>>536554854
>>536557245>there are videos>yeah obviously I don't have them or anything but trust me bro, they're out there>so what if they've even started snatching guys in kiev, those are all Russian spies
>>536557498So how are there videos and where are they?
>>536560992Ukraine government doesn't know how many people are being killed.The soldiers payment is not being handled by bankrupt Ukraine, it's being paid by EU directly to the soldiers because Ukraine is too corrupt to trust them with money.So, when someone is MIA, and the soldier can't get paid, his direct superior holds this money for him. This create a situation we're Ukrainians don't have a reason to report deaths, just claiming they are MIA so they can pocket this money.Ukraine already lost 2 huge towns because the reports mislead the number of soldiers defending it because no one was reporting deaths.Btw, I did not made this shit up. The source was a Brazilian who completed the 3 year package he signed.Ukraine is by far, the most corrupt country in Europe. There are not even contenders that can get close to it. If Italy (Italians are know world wide for their inclination to corruption) was run by the literal mafia, it would not be that bad.
>>536574176If the Russians are killing Ukrainians at that rate, why has this war lasted so long? How much manpower does Ukraine have if they can lose 100 million people but still fight
>>536561820I remember watching a interview of a Ukrainian who claimed that they were patroling a forrest and found one of those. The guy though it was a joke and pressed the button and 2 people died in the blast.
>>536554854yarussia is winning toothey have the same goal:kill as many goyim as possible.For Greater Israel
just one more million dead hohols and they'll win, something.
They're winning in the same sense that Britain won WW2.
>>536567705Lurk more, newfaggot.
Strategically NATO and Yurop are winning. Russia and Ukraine are losing.
>>536554854Sure, jeet means victory after all
>>536554854No
>>536555368>>536555844>>536555990>>536556570>>536556775But in Reality , Russia is bombing largest hohol cities,and about to hit factories that made drones in the Baltics, Finland, Poland etc. Chances are some factories are in Germany as well, it'll be fun. Nice hohol jew on German VPN. What are you using, Hetzner data center VPN, hohol jew?
>>536554854|f i cant leave my house for 5 years is a winnig then yes.
>>536555355russia hasnt lost any land since ukraine invaded kursk, theyre not gaining at any reasonable pace but they're statistically winning
>>536554854I love watching russians die. The best part of it is, since they are not really human beings, i don't have to feel empathy twards them
yes
>>536578785>I love watching russians die.People like you are called psychopaths if you are curious.
>>536554854What i don't understand is you guys were screaming white genocide on this board since it opened and here you have an actual physical genocide of white european people. Not some abstract idea of a genocide but a real physical genocide and you look at it and go YEAH WELL THEY DESERVE IT NATO CAME TO RUSSIAN BOARDERS HAHAHAH >UKRAINE WINNING LMAOWhat do you even stand for ? Are you just straight up schizophrenic ?
>>536579026Agree completely, been saying we need a cease-fire now to end this nightmare since it started, greatest tragedy of our lifetimes, easily.
>>536579207Putin will not agree to any ceasefire without ukraine basically giving up it's sovereignity and huge parts of its land and there is no guarantee he will not go for round two after suche a victoriy.
>>536579428So you are not actually for a cease-fire then, ok. I thought you were genuine about wanting the killing to stop but you are just an Ukraine partisan.
>>536578928>psychopathsWhy? How is enjoying watching a lower form of life get what it deservers bad?
>>536557017Mutts leaked intel
>>536579570/pol/ would be a much better place if the butthurt belt were range banned.
>>536554854They're just erasing white men.
>>536554854The both countries are losing.
>>536579554you are an anti white retardyou are no better than a pakistani rape gang member in london
>>536554854last I know Russians lost momentum and were actually losing ground so I guess technically? But overall it's just a meat grinder stalemate like WW1
>>536556775its called vranya
>>536579735>you are an anti white retardYou were just saying this war is a white genocide and it should stop I agreed and said we should have an immediate cease-fire to stop the killing as soon as possible, you then said no I don't want a cease-fire actually cause that might mean people could say Russia won essentially, so you don't actually want a cease-fire or the "genocide" to stop you want the war to continue, you're just a fraud.
>>536579658You ddin't answer my question - How is enjoying watchign subhuman animals die in excruciating pain bad?
>>536579683>>536579708>>536579842>>536579950Are you seething, coping or dialting right now?
>>536555137Why aren't you at the front Ivan? Russia could be winning a lot harder if you helped.
>>536580030
>>536579978>How is enjoying watchign subhuman animals die in excruciating pain bad?Why would you want to watch anything die in pain including animals, though much less people, psycho?
>>536580052Yep, definetly seething.
>>536580132
>>536580119> animalsanimals like ticks, flees, cochroaches, or tapeworms?>peopleI don't think russians count as people.
>>536580253>I don't think russians count as people.Well they are people despite your mental illness, perhaps you should consider getting some help with your issues.
>>536580253
>>536580372>they are peopleI disagree
>>536580602Oh, someone's really butthurt today
>>536580701
>>536580836>can't even respond>only spams the zhill foldersad
>>536581000
>>536581000checked, /pol/ has a psychopath containment zone, we call it /uhg/ you should go there and stay there
>>536581115Do better pidor, or your commander's not gonna go easy on your ass.
>>536581185You again failed to explain why i should feel bad for russian subhuman mongrels dying.
>>536581364
>>536581430That;s not better pidor. The way you are going i doubt you'll miss the brommhandle
>>536554854Whoever holds Stinky, wins. Now tell me, who holds Stinky?
>>536581686
>>536581428You shouldn't enjoy anything dying, it is a form of mental illness, even your enemy.
>>536581755atleast try and switch it up a bit pidor.
>>536581842>You shouldn't enjoy anything dyingeven child rapists and murderers?
>>536581894>>536581955
>>536555555
>>536581955checked, sometimes death and killing is required but you are talking about enjoyment, that isn't healthy, people shouldn't do to an election of a child rapist or murderer for enjoyment, it is a somber event.
>>536582039switched the zhill fodleri see
>>536582105>shouldn't do to an electionTry that through google translate again.
>>536582268execution or maybe in your case "with an erection" would also work
>>536582174
>>536582438ШEЛAMOBA
>>536582362just turn off the vpn buddy. Have some self-respect.
>>536582573>>536582174>>536581686>>536581000Piggers can't meme
