It seems that everywhere in the developed world has this problem and no matter what it won’t go away. People just aren’t having enough kids. Could it be possible that this is an intrinsic feature of the modern society we’ve built? When you think about it, human beings are still by their nature animals. We were meant to live life in the wild, hunting and fucking and doing little else. This ultra complex system we’ve created.. it’s just too much. It sucks the life from us, because truly we aren’t meant for it.
>>536566407It's simple.Ban usury.
>>536566407I don't think the sterilization caused by the jew jab is reversible.
>>536566407You fucking faggots lied a week ago and said Trump is restoring the birthrates. Anyway, /pol/ has tried with all it's might and failed to fix this for well over a decade. Why can't you faggots just admit that you failed miserably and maybe try a different approach? The more you cater to women and shame guys, the more women will take liberties with it and do whatever they want - and lo and behold, it's not having kids with average guys. Stew in your arrogance and keep doing what you're doing, it's not my problem anyway.
>>536566407People didn't use to have that many children, it was lead poisoning.
CUT MY TFR INTO PIECES
>>536566407the reason why people dont want to have kids is because having kids is boring
>>536566407>Raising kids in the comfort of your own home = Slavery>Making some guy rich via your labor = LiberatingWhy are women so fucking stupid?
>>536566407"Developed world" just means debt based economies where young people cant afford homes or start families on 1 income comfortably
>>536566407Probably not, mostly because low birthrates seem to be baked-in now and even economic incentives don't work. Once not having children is normalised, then it's a hard consensus to break. The only people having children at sustainable fertility rates outside of migrant populations in Western countries are rural populations in developing nations like India or small religious sects like the Amish in America. Even then, I think the more "modernised" Amish congregations only have 50% retention rates.
>>536566407>Could it be possible that this is an intrinsic feature of the modern society we’ve built?Yes. Liberalism’s goal is to provide more opportunities to everyone leading to higher opportunity cost. Men and women und the 1920s didn’t have much options how to design their own life so they followed their nature and became parents. Men and women nowadays have an absurd amount of options how to go about their life and therefore opt out of becoming parents. This is an intrinsic mechanic of liberalism. Fixing birth rates means abandoning liberalism. An alternative for a liberal nation would be to embrace depopulation and find a way to manage degrowth without collapsing. There is no proof of concept for the latter one which is why you see forced immigration into liberal countries (the west).
>>536566868>even economic incentives don't work.YOUNEEDTOHIREMENANDPAYTHEMWHATTHEYAREWORTHANDSTOPGIVINGWOMENDAYCAREJOBSFORFREE
>>536566407this is why we need immigration
>>536566924but even in liberalism, really rich people will have kids because its easier for them, and also because they can select for traits more easily with new embryo technology. basically liberalism results in only really poor or rich people having kids, but the middle class loses the desire.
>>536566407Jews are having kids.
>>536566407>Too expensive to own a home and start a family>Grocery shopping for the week just for one person is at the point where it costs over $100>Despite being a guy with a good body and stable career, every woman you find will have mixed-race kids of her own, be fat, and no jobHow are we supposed to have children when this is the bullshit we’re expected to deal with
No playing characters want to spawn into this hellscape. It's an npc world now
It doesn't even need to be fixed, it just has to be consistent over a few generations, but kikeworld demands constant growth and that's not possible without gorillions of new wagies being born constantly, historically birthrates have always fluctuated, this new hysteria is mainly a cope to justify the browning of western society, 15-20 years ago whites wouldn't shut up about muh overpopulation and how having children was selfish.
>>536566583I don't see the tradcuck and wignat crowds ever learning. Women are their gods like black criminals are liberals' gods.
>>536566407Get house prices under control. People don't wanna have kids while in a studio appartment paying rent to mr Shekelstein and can't afford a family if their mortgage is 60% of their raw income.Provide state health insurance for natal care. How can you expect women to stop aborting every baby when even a normal, no complications birth with insurance can cost them multiple thousands?Stop railroading every girl in highschool direct into college. College is full of bitter feminists, and it costs as much as a house. This means women either spend their whole 20s and early 30s paying off that debt by working, or they carry that debt while trying to have kids.DESU it's like the USA was purpose designed to make sure women wouldn't have kids.
There are too many fucking people.Birth rate decline is perfectly natural and only a problem if you're a jew shareholder chasing infinite growth.
>>536566407We're in a evolutionary dead end.Over millions of years evolution put two things in our instinct:- Wanting to have sex- Wanting to take care of baby once bornWe were having children as a consequences of sexual pulse then once born the nurturer/provider pulse kicked in but at no point in time we ever explicitly wanted to have children just for the sake of it. Never for any animals that even put a feet on this planet.The first instinct is now suppressed because of birth control and abortionThe second one is a vicious circle where people are less leaning into having families because they just don't see any children in their environment so the nurturer/provider instinct doesn't kick.People in this thread will brag about removing women rights, but the truth is reproduction has no evolutionary convergence with modern comfortable. The only time it will rebalance is once the aging population make infrastructure collapse and modern comfort fall apart.
>>536566407> It seems that everywhereIsraeli fertility rate is 2.9
>>536568317This basically hits on the issue. People don't want their kids to go to school with third world savages. It's no fun taking kids to the park when there are paki rapists there.We need couples to have 3 kids, but a 4 bedroom house is impossibly expensive.There are so many barriers it's a wonder that the birth rate isn't lower, white parents in the west are heroes.
>>536566407Not in a liberal democracy you can't. When you give women the right to gatekeep everything while being supported by the state, they will put off childbearing until they can't anymore because having a baby is icky and inconvenient to their lifestyle. If you want the birthrate to go up, you have to penalize women for not having babies. It's that simple. There is no incentive, there is no yelling at men, there is no PR campaign going to change this. Women have to be penalized. But that isn't going to happen because people would rather their societies go extinct than hurt a woman's feelings, which is in fact a symptom of the general malaise: Catering to women in exchange for nothing.
>>536566650>bend the curve
>>536569008What form would a penalty take?
>>536568933>People in this thread will brag about removing women rights, but the truth is reproduction has no evolutionary convergence with modern comfortable. The only time it will rebalance is once the aging population make infrastructure collapse and modern comfort fall apart.This is certainly a component of it. But the collapse in birthrates is entirely a social construction, via birth control, government incentives not to breed, constant anti-male agitprop, and the lie women are sold that they will stay young and beautiful forever while being a strong, empowered bossgirl. The reality is they have a fertility window of about 15 years, and then after that they can't have normal kids. Early marriage was actively discouraged by the government because it offended churchies and the like. Also, birth control and the lie of "female empowerment" led women from having two or three sexual partners per lifetime into having hundreds. And there have been studies performed that the more sex a woman has with randos, the more unlikely she is to ever settle down or have children. So, it comes full circle. If you want birthrates to go back up, you have to ban birth control, you have to encourage early marriage, and you have to penalize women who refuse to have children via taxation or some manner of organized government shame campaign where unmarried childless women are actively looked down upon and considered of lower status.
>>536569123You've heard of the Roman bachelor tax? Same concept, but applied to women.If you're a woman over 25, unmarried and childless? You get 10% of your income taken away by the state. Those funds are then used to bankroll fertility clinics for those that do want kids. If women won't have children, they will pay for the women who will.
>>536569123Childless women above the age of let's say 30 or 35 without a confirmed medical condition preventing them to conceive will be executed or put in labour camps, this is also how you get rid of like 60% of the race traitors.
>>536566407Revoke women’s rights and then I’ll have a kid.Simple as.
>>536569217I would go along with this, as long as they get it back if they later have a kid.Making foids poorer won't make them more excited to have a kid.If they get the money back they will see it as a positive, I guarantee it.
>>536568987>a 4 bedroom houseWe have lost everything. We lost village life with people like us; our extended families, the clan, uncles and cousins. I don't think an extra bedroom will do the trick
>>536566583/pol/‘s “solution” was doubling down on its retarded>I refuse to work a job, volunteer, educate myself, or contribute to society in any way until it provides me with an 18-year-old, virgin, 11/10, tradwife bridenonsense. If you’re looking to this place for solutions to anything, you won’t find any.
>>536569217>>536569008meh.Directly taxing women is imho not that rellevant.I would rather indirectly tax employers of unmarried women without children, and lower the criteria of the extra tax burden with each qualifier.Basically, implement the wage gap via extra backend taxation.
>>536569391I only mention that because my people want their children to grow up with a reasonable standard of life. Sharing a bedroom with 5 filthy siblings in a 2 bedroom flat is acceptable to the browns but we want more.The car is also pretty much a hard cap on two children now as well because you can only fit two mandatory car seats in the back of a normal car. You need a bigger vehicle if you want 3 kids. The financial pressures never end.
>>536569351yes it will, once they see foids with kids being richer than them as a rule.everything foids and most moids do is keeping up with the Johnes.thus you make having children an absolute must to ever get any hope of advancing past an entry level job. how do you do that? employers must pay extra 30% tax in comparison to a man, if the woman is not with children and in a recognized official relationship with a man.also a man who supports a woman with children having benefits compared to a regular man, who by default is not penalized for being a useless childless woman.look, if you want to social engineer shit, you have to use the tax code in a broad spectrum. hit everything that is even associated with your target in order to not allow for easy loopholes
>>536566407I’m 35 and satisfied that my non existent children won’t ever be wageslaves, and that I will never be divorce raped. Honestly fuck society.
>>536569553>reason 478: car seatsI'm gonna guess you are some sort of passing for white American. Those who control the world want to go back to the demographics of 1580. White people expanded their habitat and population. They consume huge resources per capita. The program is to shrink them down to 100 million. No tinkering at the margins will change anything unless they abandon this objective. There is no indication that they will. Instead it's taunting incels for what has been taken from them
>>536569553there is also the option of industrial tax cattle production. you have prisons. sex work is real work, and thus... well... there are many ways in which you can either rent out shit for surogates or just have the prison work be future tax cattle production.
>>536566407Basically the US every time it started running out of people in the cities had their major ports open up and start letting in Irish for example. So for hundreds of years the US government has destroyed inner city populations with massive amounts of low wage labor. This is important because it masks negative birthrates with mass illegal immigration. Ta dah. One of the largest problems with birthrates is the government lied to you about what whites were being born at all. If they were being born at all and didn't just get off some boat! So the massive explosion of "white births" that started nose diving in the 50's was at least in part, in the US, due to illegal immigration. So you ask, why can't white birthrates be saved, and I tell you the government hasn't cared for hundreds of years. Why else would they mass import dysgenics? It's literally just a ponzi scheme they're trying to keep afloat
>>536569351>>536569504The point of a government 10% flat tax on unmarried childless women is to humiliate them:1. They get hit with the tax, and everyone knows it's because they refuse to get married and have kids.2. It directly impacts their purchasing power which, above all things, will hurt the female ego the most.3. It provides the herd mentality incentive (because women are herd animals) to get married and have babies because they'll see their peers doing so to avoid the tax. And, again4. If they still refuse to have children, they'll pay for those who will. Women have a vast number of privileges in a liberal democracy because they are all born of this post-Victorian mentality that women have to be protected because they will create the next generation of young. Except they're not. So they don't deserve protection anymore.
>>536569455I'm surrounded by chinks, pakis and muhamedans. What "society"?!!
The thing I don’t understand is what the fuck do people do north of 35 if they don’t have kids? I would be bored as fuck if I wasn’t tending to a family. Traveling and partying get very boring, especially in a world where everyone is glued to their phone.
>>536569878malthusian thinking has allways been retarded thinking.
>>536569944Spending money muh nigga it's about spending money. That's all society is about. As soon as you fall out of your mother Jews want to give you credit. Credit to buy consumer goods, toys to keep the 1950's American placated, like jello and an all steel car that could double as a wrecking ball
>>536569455Nta, I work and do shit to contribute to society, but I’m not taking any of these fat, busted up hoes that it feels like everyone is pushing on usEvery woman you find today has some of the following>Fat>Children>No job or dead-end job >Legal issues>Shitty tattoos >Blown out ass and pussyWhy should it be our responsibility to fix their problems and not the government’s?
>>536566407There is no birthrate crisis.There is a Ponzi crisis.There is no valid reason a country requires infinite ongoing population growth. That's a cancer.The "reason" is a "growth" pyramid scam financial system, a "growth" pyramid scam medical system and most of all a "growth" pyramid scam pension system.We should destroy our nations so a fucking conman's Pyramid Ponzi can continue?
>>536569898That’s called Lebensrom. Unless you have blonde hair and blue eyes, you wouldn’t be taking part in that
>>536569944Some men with a talent can put their full focus for some project or some cause.Women on the other end are fucked and will just cope doing 10 irrelevant travels per year
>>536566407Dude it's all pointless, hating on jews, lifting, working, self improving, going out with friends, getting women, everything. You will never make it and you will never live the life you thought you would live.The younger generations are realizing early how fucked they are compared to the older gens.Things weren't like this ten years ago, but they are now and they will only get worse.Everyone under 30 that wasn't born with a silver spoon has completely given up on life.Housing is so comically out of reach now I think the normalfag masses have finally just stopped caring. Everyone is living day to day, drinking and doing drugs, driving like they have a death wish etc. you see it everywhere now.Where the fuck do we even go from here?
>>536569927i am fine with both.Thing is, it not just about the money.It absolutely has to impact their ability to be promoted and thus lord over others - thus an extra employment tax on the employer for using up human capital that is directly impacting the TFR by ocupying their time with work. This way the more the income grows with promotion the higher the % tax the employer has to pay, making it a nonviable option, and the path of least resistence being promoting males.couple this with striking down laws and regulations that inhibit workplace coupling and you have de facto increased the status of most males, thus making them attractive prospects to the women.Oh, yeah, and also demolish the whole default of child is going to the woman bullshit on separation. On separation child goes to the one with the most income for better outcomes.
>>536569944>children are my hobby Can confirm world is boring; nothing left. Boomers have fenced all the good stuff in. If you got yours great for you. The rest of us have the solace that we won't be inflicting the suffering on our children. Sorry if your underclass is brown
>>536570072How's the government supposed to fix women? They just took the whole lot and dumped them outside and told them have fun. Were women which are incapable of philosophy up until this point in history supposed to develop a new one for men and society as a whole? Maybe the government is the problem
>>536566407Good. There's too many fucking people on this rock. GTFO we're full.
>>536570125nah mate. not going for any kind of eugenics or other criteria bullshit. full on industrializing prison for sex service economy if it is such high demand.Simply use price listing for regular ex work and surogacy payments and there you go for the price point.I personally would not go into that, but... it is a potential option.
>>536569944>I would be bored as fuckThat's because you're low IQ and can't entertain yourself
>>536570291The real question is who is going to stop the government from intentionally fucking up women?
>>536570545I think we reached rock bottom with women. Like it actually can't get worse. So actually the solution would be fixing society so they can become normal psychopaths again
>>536570545take over the goverment and use it to fuck up women back into utility.
>>536570545Are you aware of the Laffer curve and the maximum rate of taxation? The managerial class is trying to find the maximum level of fuck people around. They hit that limit with the school system and homeschooling. They don't seem to have hit the limit where White men withdraw en masse. White men are still trying to be pick mes
>>536566407>Could it be possible that this is an intrinsic feature of the modern society we’ve built?Could be
>>536570708I heard someone say that it's actually impossible to get a city to have positive birthrates with natives because cities are nothing but wealth extraction and rely on destroying people's livelihoods essentially to migrate there
>>536566407Animals in captivity don't breed.We've also completely fucked up familial and tribal habits that we developed over millenia.It's like disrupting a delicate rainforest ecosystem. Once you start the domino chain of destruction and collapse, there is no going back. Extinction and barren nothingness awaits
I blame women. I wanted to fuck every day from the time I was like 12 until the time I was in my late 30's and no woman ever wanted to fuck me in that whole window. it's over.
>>536570291I honestly don’t know, but the fact that it seems to have fallen on us is where I dig my heels in and say no. I don’t wanna be the guy who has to fix their shitty mistakes. The last guy they let hit doesn’t either.It’s not unreasonable to have those things I listed as standards, but you’ll never find a woman who meets all those criteria today.
>>536570545Bro, if she got a septum ring and court dates coming up, she’s already fucked up
>>536570875It's like a game. You were dropped in in the middle of it, you're trying to throw the ball around and there's a bunch of half naked women running around drawing hearts and fucking the umpire. What's there to fix? Like watching a fire consume it's fuel
>>536570821>Animals in captivity don't breedWut? If this were true dogs wouldn't exist
>>536570957There are decent women out there, but the only way to meet them is through their friends. Actual dating is like networking in a job and building references, just in social circlesI’m a friendless loser who’s forced to use Tinder and cold approaching in Vegas since that’s the only place it’s allowed
There is no such thing as "having enough kids". Who besides the government is deciding what is enough? If immigration wasn't an issue, how many kids would be enough?People used to have a lot of kids because they all ran farms and used their kids for labor. When that happened along with media/religious/school/government propaganda plus medical advancements, the economy going down and birth control, people stopped having less kids.It's great if people, particularly men, want to have a lot of kids. But doing it to hit government/media enforced numbers is not that reason.
>>536571069The good ones are kept on a leash?
>>536566407We existed for thousands of years with a fraction of our current population.Exponential growth is not desirable or sustainable.
>>536571151They’re gate kept and not on dating apps. Most people find their spouse because they had friends set them up, not cuz they matched on tinder or met in a bar
>>536569944>The thing I don’t understand is what the fuck do people do north of 35 if they don’t have kidsNieces, nephews, grandnieces, grandnephews, cousins, tabletop with the nerds, sportsball with the boys, landscape and maintenance, etc. I go back and forth on the kids question but it lets me be the first one they all call in an emergency.I feel for single children though. My opinion here would probably be very different if the senpai wasn't huge and close.
>>536571256Its because we cant just outright kill people who are shitty anymore
>>536571287Right I never bought into club dating and waving my dick at women. It's obvious to me at least it's a modern invention. Maybe even Jewish
>>536571287White population is declining. Men date younger. That's musical chairs. Hagmaxxing is your best bet
>>536571378I do it cuz I live near Vegas and it’s my only option now. I hate it, and I just wish one of my friends would toss me a fucking lifeline already.
>>536571359>Nieces, nephews, grandniecesAre you a woman or brown? Childless White men are not trusted around children
>>536571441
>average person is a piece of shit and shouldn't reproduce>imagine any activity and think if it would be better with less people (driving etc)>the only people who want more people (goyim slaves) are jews
I would have been a good dad. It's a shame I'll never have the chance to breed unless civilization collapses into mad max anarchy so that I'm allowed to build a rape harem of kidnapped women with no choice.
>>536571487I wouldn't rely on friends they're usually morons. You'd have better luck bumming around town looking for cashiers or something, at this point it's not like them having a job matters when the female labor market is mostly made up
>>536566407You gotta breed more methhead babies to save the wayt race!
>>536569796In this boat too
>>536571287This. PUA grifters are usually trying to convince you to become some self centered fag to attract women. But the best way to find quality women is to become the best bro possible so that your friends and their wives will set you up with sisters/cousins/girl friends.
You’re all dumb niggers who are coping>bro it’s the economy>make housing affordable!>subsidise daycare!>free food for goys!>ban jeets!The pure and simple truth is that women do not want to reproduce or interact with sub 5 men and 99% of men are sub 5 in their eyes and therefore they don’t want or need to have anything to do with youThe genes are ick and there is literally ZERO net gain or positive from them settling and letting you blow loads in them until they drop out a dysgenic chud baby that you raise and teach your shitty values until you throw them into the same cycle but worseThey want Chad or nothing - they can happily spend their time in WFH daycare jobs getting paid above average salaries outperforming their male counterparts to fund travel and fashion while maybe potentially if they’re lucky getting swooped up by Chad on one of their travels, pumped full of cum and then sent on their wayThen spend the rest of their time wishing they could find him again The birth rate problem is solved by mass immigration and letting thirdies reproduce with zero limits - and technology in first world countries will pick up the rest They just need to state fund women to become single mothers, get impregnated by Chad and then marginalise sub 5s even further You don’t matter, and if you think you can stop it, a palantir drone has been deployed to your skull and no one is any the wiser on what happened and if they did they couldn’t even care anyway Such is life
There is no crisis. This planet is overpopulated with human filth. 8.3 billion faggots. Gotta reduce that shit down to at least 1billion max
>>536571826>Create happy frufru society for women >It's actually just a handful of social safety nets and making sure everyone is as incompetent as piss>Men: i was promised a utopia
>>536571951Not only that most are obese too boot
>>536571287most women are 100% happy to date guys outside their social circle and in some cases, they actually prefer doing so. dating guys within a social circle has some downsides. but, crucially, you must have normgroid social media profiles to date most women if you don't share a social circle. women have a biological compulsion to stalk your social media accounts (mostly instagram, women love instagram for whatever fucking reason). and when they search for your instagram account, they're not looking for what most chuds on /pol/ think women look for. they're trying to assess if you're a cheater/player, primarily.
>>536566743Pregnancy and child rearing requires a simple mind
>>536572271What do women say if you don't have social media? What if you go "that's gay"? Do they get wet? Or run away. What if you say cellphones are gay? Texting is stupid. Do they cry? Let's get some notes going
>>536568933>but at no point in time we ever explicitly wanted to have children just for the sake of it. What the actual fuck is wrong with zoomers
>>536571951lets start with you, dumb faggot
>>536566924The most tyrannical societies on earth right now are below replacement. Even child farms are not working.
>>536566407Yes, my Latina gf is coming to the USA soon. Our children will have my green eyes and her dark hair.
>>536569455And what's your solution, tradcuck? For us to follow traditional male roles even though women, society and the system at large won't follow theirs? To accept the worst of all worlds?
>>536566407Feminism convinced females to be terrified of bearing children. Many of them want children, but are paralyzed by fear and uncertainty.
They're getting lower everywhere in the world. China, Russia, Iran, Latin America and Turkey now have even worse fertility rates than the United States. Either we peacefully accept that there will be fewer humans on this planet in the future (while culling groups with high birth rates, namely niggers and kikes, so that they don't spread) or we'll have to implement mandatory births/artificial wombs sooner or later.
>>536572649And webbed feet for swimming the cenotes
>>536566407Oh shut the fuck up. I hate you "return to nature" faggots. I hate you because you aren't serious in your conviction. You're just someone who can't make it in society and instead of accepting that your failure is your fault, you blame "muh unnatural industrialized society" for all your troubles. And I know this is the case because if you were given the opportunity to go live like the wild animal you claim you're supposed to be, you wouldn't take it. You wouldn't give up any of the comforts of modern living, you just want to give up the responsibilities of modern living.
Enjoy a future soaked in menstrual blood:"A powerful campaign by The Star newspaper recently raised awareness about period poverty. It featured actual period blood stains on the front page to show the harsh reality: many South African girls are forced to use old newspapers as emergency pads because they cannot afford sanitary products."
>>536572869I don't know shooting a deer and drying its meat without a government crying about rogue AIs, aliens, Armageddon and giving everyone brain washing devices while actively destroying your culture and race would be a change of pace
>>536566407>remove all w*mens rights>problem immediately solvedBut that will never ever happen so lets sit back and enjoy the predictable collapse.
>>536572505she'll look for another way to validate her concern, the main concern for women will always be if you are a player or a cheater. women don't understand the perspective of a solitary autist who doesn't have any desire to microblog every shit he takes and upload all his personal data to facebook/google. so don't ever try to explain it that way. just say you're too busy with work to keep up a blog, and you stay in touch with family and friends with text and email. have pictures available of you doing inane normie activities.
>>536572869Impossible to starve in the wild in our country considering there’s a lake or river full of fish every few miles
>>536573136Oh yes just lie to women I forgot. Lie to your boss too
>>536566407Ban shitskinsAbolish the jewish aoc Pay people to have children. Remove women from the workplace. Repeal their right to vote
>>536572869>projecting omega male backstabs his fellow failure
>>536573197do you not text and email your family?
>>536573787I basically get the entire family's news relayed to me in some way or another. But no I hate texting it makes me want to snap my phone in half because people say shit they don't mean and it's pointless. Hello how are you how's the weather, did your plane crash? You don't need a cellphone for that
>>536569256>Childless women above the age of let's say 30 or 35 without a confirmed medical condition preventing them to conceive will be executed>childless women who can still conceive will be executedlmao
>>536566407if it will be autosolved by nature if ZOG of economic zones stops to intervene in markets and nature with their feminism and niggers
>>536573189It's not about starving, it's about comfort. Faggots like OP complain about modern society, but I guarantee you they'd throw the biggest tantrum bitch fit if you actually tried to take their smartphone, computer, internet and video games away. Like I said, faggots like OP want all the comforts of modern society and none of the responsibility.
>>536566407>Could it be possible that this is an intrinsic feature of the modern society we’ve built?yes. Humans need a sense of wonder and magic. Then they can prosper even in harsh environments. That is why we build religions and stuff. The idea to live as individual anonymous worker drone in an economic zone does not sound very appealing.
>>536566407There are no couples forming because women do not actually find men sexually appealing. Women like beauty, they like beautiful men. If a man is not beautiful he has no appeal.Men like women for being women. Even an ugly woman can find a man who wants her just because she’s a woman.Women used to need men for protection, now they have to police.Economy security, now they have high paying jobs they cannot lose due to quotas.Political and financial power, now they have the right to vote and the right manage their own finances.Social media has made it such that women’s standards are now global and therefore extremely high.Women have casual sex starting at age 15 sometimes younger and they ruin their ability to pairbond.Love is a drug and women have developed an immunity to it, if they are not in love and they do not need a man and no men are good enough, they will choose to be single.Those couples which do form are limited by a lack of self belief, a lack of hope for the future, economic prospects, they both struggle forward as a team but never have the confidence or the security to start a family, if they do have a kid or two it’s rarely more than 3 and basically never 10+This is especially pronounced in attractive Europeans. Beautiful redheads, gorgeous blondes, tall and handsome men of Germany and Sweden, the smoking Eleusinians of France, Italy, and Greece, all of them shall be lost.Beauty will be gone forever and you better hope Christ returns because otherwise the world will remain brown, ugly, ignorant, crude, and generally an unpleasant place to dwell, technology will reach a stasis perhaps at a 1920s level and human evolution will cease.The conditions that produced beautiful intelligent Europeans will be gone forever.This planet will forever be an uncomfortable, stinky, ugly, dreary, boring, polluted place till humans are extinct.
>>536569455But that IS the solution. Let the beast starve.>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO WORKNo, I don’t. Strain the system till the police stop showing up to work, then we begin kidnapping women, killing non-Whites, and policing our own.>not a virgin at marriage? You’re excommunicated or executed.>that won’t workMaybe it doesn’t work, but it’s the best option we have. Until we have our fate in our own hands, and that means there is no higher power in this land than us, than myself, my brothers and friends, then we will not contribute for it is little more than a slave’s tribute to a false master.Until I personally or someone representing me directly had a nuclear bomb pointed at Moscow, Tel Aviv, Beijing, and possibly DC, then I want whatever I am apart of to perish.Simple as.Give me a virgin redhead teenage girl and I’ll work. Till then, I will be a burden and a menace.Give me a virgin or give me a nuke.>you don’t matterThen I am glad I can rest easy knowing my exploitation and abuse of everyone else is inconsequential.
>>536569878Whites are the only people who don’t constantly push a carrying capacity tho.White population booms were earned by White technology.Theres also no downside to more beautiful Whites in the world.>I am very powerful I need to deliberate over othersAll th money and power in the world can not win you the love of a beautiful virginal teen girl.The more of these girls there are, th greater the chance one will love you.The elites are not enlightened environmentalists nor are they power hungry for its own sake.They are anti White.
>>536566407no and it shouldn't be. we don't need more fucking people in the world.
>>536568933>>536569164The solution is technological. Women will gradually be replaced by sexbots and artificial wombs.
>>536566757So? So why don't you partnermaxx and careermax with a suitable girlboss who divides responsibilities with you on a flowchart that you both review bi-annually together during a sitdown? Are you too incompetent to do that?
the first world has doubled in population since ww2 but our actual collective output and production is dead, even for a service economy its fucking impossible to be successful as small businessif society wasnt a gamble, if the tax system didnt purposefully favor big business, and if the government would do literally anything other than fuck with normal people and let pedos get off the hook, maybe the birth rates would go up
>>536568933>The first instinct is now suppressed because of birth control and abortionlol fucking retard zoomer if birth control kills horniness then why is every young girl on birth control with a 100 body count? how does them getting loads of abortions stop horniness? if anything it makes it more likely for them to slut around because they’ve got a get out of jail free card.
>>536566946the fix everything switch they don't want you to press
>>536566407Have the algorithm tell girls/women that they should be mothers and you will double the birth rate almost instantlyIt's that shrimple
>>536566539>I don't think the sterilization caused by the jew jab is reversible.ThisThe ovaries were targetedSee picrel>The riots start in the mid 2030s once people find out what was done to their daughters
>>536568933>Over millions of years evolution put two things in our instinct:>- Wanting to have sex>- Wanting to take care of baby once born>The second one is a vicious circle where people are less leaning into having families because they just don't see any children in their environment so the nurturer/provider instinct doesn't kick.If you seal your borders then over a few generations the people with a strong instinct to actually want actual children actually in their actual lives get selected for
>>536571256>Exponential growth is not desirable or sustainable.
>>536566407This was planned.
>>536566407We need indian men to have sex with white women
>>536571256>Exponential growth is not desirable or sustainableR-Selected nations are in troubleK-Selected nations>(if they had any brains which they don't)should seal their borders and ride out the mass die off
>>536571626>average person is a piece of shit and shouldn't reproduce>imagine any activity and think if it would be better with less people (driving etc)>the only people who want more people (goyim slaves) are jewsNice picrel anonCheck out mineBut think of India as you check my picrel out
>>536572620>The most tyrannical societies on earth right now are below replacement. Even child farms are not working.You need to go big or go home60% tax on all income40% if you have one kid20% if you have two kids 0% if you have three kids
>>536582949>We need indian men to have sex with white womenPlease for the love of God do not introduce R-Selection instinct to European DNA
>>536569455You're a moron, /pol/ for over a decade has insisted that the solution is to man up for whores and sluts. To pull yourself up by the bootstraps and be tradcucks like them. I'm glad there are some posters who stand up to that nonsense. /pol/ failed because women are out of control and they don't want kids with average guys. Technology and life in general has changed so much that women don't need to make the sacrifices required of them a century ago.
>>536566450This plus optional legal segregation.
>>536566650People used to have lots of children, it's just that most of them would die before adulthood.
>In recent years a 1969 memo written by Frederick S. Jaffe has been a source of controversy. The memo, written to Berelson while he was head of the Population Council, included a table that summarized many proposals from various sources regarding population control. This table contained proposals such as compulsory abortions and sterilizations, encouraging homosexuality, forcing women to work, and other controversial notions. In point of fact, however, Jaffe's table was included in a report by a Planned Parenthood official that worked for Jaffe, that said "The report was prepared in behalf of Planned Parenthood's Population Education Staff Committee as a basis for discussion of and action on the U.S. population problem by the Planned Parenthood national organization."Even that statement isn't entirely correct, as the Jaffe Memo created a huge controversy when it was leaked to the public in 1972. The usual suspects have tried to confuse the public as to the intent of the memo, but had to admit it's authenticity. Most of the goals listed on the memo have come to fruition; LGBT is promoted to kids through jewish staffed media like NatGeo, and 23% of Gen Z identifies as a member of LGBT. It's going to be higher with Gen Alpha, as already 6% identify as transgender.
>>536566407Just deport jeet subhumans, housing prices come down and people aren't scamming the welfare system nearly as much and people can afford to live and raise a family.
The illegal Nigger who cops used to try to kill me has 8 kids with a jew
>>536583653>This plus optional legal segregationEven a trailer park could be super comfy if there was some sort of interview process that you could use to keep out dangerous people
>>536584299CRAP wrong picrel I meant this picrelTLDR - My college dorm building was 99% white and HEAVENSEND ME BACKFOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING>I WANT TO GO BAAAAAAAAAAAACK
>>536566946I hate these kinds of articles because we already know what is lowering the birthrate. How many years of women in education, and women working. That's literally it. It's weird seeing article after article of "what could be causing it?!" When we've had the answer for literally decades.
>>536582705Even if that actually worked, you'd still end up with kids being raised by single moms and spending all day on an ipad. Most would be tainted from the vax too.
>>536566407female issue. women are having sex, stop pretending they aren't. they're choosing to use contraceptives or abort. why bother continually asking this male dominated forum about an issue that has nothing to do with men? you might as well ask about the best sewing techniques.
>>536570119I agree with this. Shrinking population is good…to a point, that is. Government is an entity unto itself. It has zero regard for the people it governs. Their objectives are at enmity with our own. There is very little overlap.
>>536570194Yeah, you have indeed captured the zeitgeist. Even if you make good money, there’s nothing to live for. There are no happy times ahead. There’s nothing to look forward to. And my is far more onerous than the average depressing existence. Mine in dominated by Jew psyops. It feels like everything is about to fall apart, and I sorta hope it does. There really is nothing to salvage.
>>536570607I thought that years ago, and they only get worse.
