>we do not believe in God but we celebrate Christian holidays, vacations, festivities, and traditionsThis is what secular people are like in my country. You either practice religion or you don't, so you also don't do the fun things that are meant for Christians.
>>536582823It's all ultimately made-up bullshit so what's the harm in people enjoying the holidays even if they don't buy into the religious aspects?
>>536582823>do the fun things that are meant for Christians.Fun things like what?
>>536582823Christmas to me is a time of livening up the dead season, and spreading the warmth of sharing and gifting
>>536582907>It's all ultimately made-up bullshitReligion is not just about truth its also about improving your comunity. If you really what to be philosofical about it, seeking truth is meaningless no one ever gave their life for seeking the truth.> what's the harm in people enjoying the holidays even if they don't buy into the religious aspects?They should not do that. They can make up their own holidays>>536582940like celebrating christmas for example
>>536583425You don't need religion to prompt people to improve their community, if anything religion only discourages people from meaningfully giving a shit about their community because they become too focused on the next life instead of this one.
>>536583425>like celebrating christmas for exampleYou mean consumerism? Buying and spending on Christmas gifts, decorations and parties? Christmas isn't even Christian to begin with. It's a Germanic holiday called yule.
>>536583572Then why are secular society's soulless and gay?>>536583584That's how secular people celebrate it , also I am 100% sure that Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ at Christmas
>>536582823>we do not believe in God but we celebrate Christian holidays, vacations, festivities, and traditionsWhat this mean is that you celebrate Pagan holidays;Forcibly subverted and bastardized down to the performative and meaningless of christianity> Pagan-ImperialismThe Indo-Aryan tradition knows of Shveta Dvipa, the ‘Island of Splendor,’ also located in the extreme North,where Narayana, the one who ‘is the light’ and ‘stands above the waters’ resides.They also speak of the Uttarakuru, a primordial Nordic race;For them, ‘Nordic’ means the solar path of the gods — deva-yāna —and the term uttara conveys the concept of everything sublime, elevated and superior> what can be called Arya, Aryan, in the sense of Nordic.https://tradition.st/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Julius-Evola-Pagan-Imperialism.pdfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukdpSNh2iAohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjXKOIUhHD0
>>536582823The clergy is corrupthttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/pNWhqfJBn04
>>536583584What the Seamus said
>>536584206>soulless and gayThe Church itself is partly to blame
>>536582823You mean pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter?
>>536584925>The Church itself is partly to blamealways has been.
>>536584495>The clergy is corrupt"we forgot our eternal hypocrisy and our bullshit is someone elses fault again"
>>536582823>roman holidays, vacations, festivities and traditionsftfy.modern christian dont even keep the 7th day as the day of rest as it is written in the commandments.
>>536583425>like celebrating christmas for examplewe can celebrate yule then
>>536585114I don't want to talk with you trannychan
>>536585383I'm already jerking off to your emotional trauma and selfinflicted cognitive dissonance.
>>536582823Christmas is more of Santa Claus, Easter is more of Easter Bunny, Thanksgiving and other holidays like Valentines or Independence day aren't necessarily Christian. I don't think they celebrate catholic holidays like Lent.
>>536582823If you are not out stoning whores who get married without being virgins, you are not practicing the religion.
>>536582823>Christian holidaysAll pagan, but whatever helps you cope.
>>536585848Exactly this. Halloween, Valentines, Easter, Thanksgiving, heck even Christmas are all pretty much non Christian. Even on birthdays, the way we blow candles on cakes is also not a Christian tradition.
>>536585756Johannes 8:7 see image>>536584441>>536585042>>536585141>>536585322Wouldn't it be a good thing if pagan traditions were preserved by Christianity? (which I most likely doubt) Your ancestors had no problem with being converted to it.
>>536586276>Wouldn't it be a good thing if pagan traditions were preserved by Christianity?why would christianity be needed for that?> Your ancestors had no problem with being converted to it.another straight up lie, i can easily copy/paste over a thousand years worth of struggle against christianitythe same christianity that is dying on its own because people fail to be convinced by it as its against the european spirit.
>>536582823Secularism has always stolen from faith. It takes morals and pretends it is its own. >>536582999t. product of consumerism >>536585042>celebrating Jesus' birth and resurrection are paganThis is the intelligence of anti-Christians arguments. Then again what is expected of meme flags in this thread making this argument?
>>536587221Easter bunnies and Christmas elves are very pagan. They're from European folklore.Christian morals have always been about worshipping jews and their traditions like circumcision and bending your ass over to your enemies. It's why Western countries have become unironically zogged.
>>536586276>wouldn't it be a great thing if we only destroyed most of your culture instead of all of your culture?
>>536587221> t. product of consumerismchristianity is entirely performative even without consumerism.no transcendence, no overcoming, no empowermentit shrinks every person and creates a melting pot no different to democrazy,no different from christian universalism and globalism.> celebrating Jesus' birth and resurrection are paganyoure not providing an argument yourself and you attack someones intellectand you still dont know the jesus thats only known from jewish scriptures, was not born during Yule/christmas.
>>536587221The Belgian secular society acts as if churches, cathedrals, and traditions belong to it, but they do not; they belong to Christians. Perhaps this was the case 60 years ago when society was still Christian. Some of these cathedrals and traditions are hundreds of years old.
>>536582823>Christian holidays, vacations, festivities, and traditionsname one that isn't pre-christian
santa is cool, jewsus is not
>>536589104holy blood procession in Bruges
>>536582823Christmas isnt really a christian holiday by its history and values. It can be but its pretty universal and most European religions had something like it
>>536589327another contribution to the christkike cringe folderat least christians know no shameonce their christbrains has been destroyed after a lifetime of cognitive dissonance and scapegoating
