Are chuddies really going to do this “MUH ELECTION FRAUD” nonsense every time they lose now?
>>536636816Until processes are changed so it's possible to know whether elections are legitimate, yes, you can expect calls for reform to continue.
>>536636816The political left is anti-democracy.Democracy requires legitimate elections.
>>536636816I don't speak Hindi. Can you translate this mess to English and tell us how it is politics?
>>536636816When you have people from Europe flying in to California to vote, maybe there's a problem.
>>536637052People who don't understand California's voting system complaining about it working as designed, claiming rigged and saying this is a new effect when it has been working this way since the 70s.The easy way to think about it is the retards who say "Texas is definitely going to be blue this year!" Have the red equivalent claiming "California is definitely going to be red this year!" And both sides always come up with excuses as to why their candidates failed without ever acknowledging that it's just because those states have a lot of voters who disagree.If you want a slightly deeper cut, tech bros in particular are upset about this, because the California wealth tax is going to be on the ballot, and it's expected that if they can get enough republican voters interested to vote they might be able to squash it, but without a republican getting through the primary, there's a good chance republicans don't show up to vote, and not enough dems support corporate overlords to make it work otherwise.Musk might be in Texas now but there is concern among the rich class in to US because of the precedents being set in a few states to cuck rich people.
>>536637365Is it opposite day?
>>536636816>>536637019Isn't Elon Musk that freak who manually unbanned multiple users who posted child porn to his website?Is that why rightoids like him so much?
because they are evil scheming yids
>>536636816lol...wait until the next presidential election... your gonna love it
>>536636816>chuddieswhy are you using youtube kids' memes for toddlersundertage b&, OP is 5 years oldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkiq13nHBW0
CALIFORNIA VOTED BLUE??? THIS MUST BE FRAUD!!THAT REALITY STAR ZIONIST WITH ZERO EXPERIENCE WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN
>>536638496>ZIONIST *judeophileoh wait, you didn't mean "jews" at all, did you
>>536638621Definitely did
>>536638867hard to tell now when they only say "zionist" or "israeli"
>>536636902>>536637019We could have only in-person voting with ID and cons would still cry fraud whenever they lose.They even do it when they lose against each other.>>536637159I'm sure this is a totally real problem that exists and sways elections, no evidence needed.
>>536640711you could have nobody voting period and they would still just announce the results the same way they always do, since the votes and the outcomes haven't been related for at least 20+ years and probably more like 40+
>>536636816Are they really that afraid they'll lose the midterms?
Guys, you can't call it "commiefornia" and expect republicans to win elections there at the same time. Use your head. Think.
>>536640898isn't that the state that made shoplifting under $1000 worth of shit a misdemeanor, effectively legalizing shoplifitng for niggers since no cops would bother
on the other hand it probably did more to educate niggers on counting to 1,000 than anything in the educational system could ever hope to
>>536640984To be fair, a thousand bucks won't be worth all that much the way things are going.
>>536637365It's rigged. If you can't count votes on voting day, you don't deserve to hold elections.
>>536636902>Until processes are changed so it's possible to know whether elections are legitimate, yes, you can expect calls for reform to continue.Except the calls for reform instantly evaporate the second they win. Just look at the 2024 election... MAGA retards spent months screeching about voter fraud and how the Democrats were going to steal the election from Trump right up until the very night of the election. Then it turned out Trump not only won the EC, but the popular vote as well. Instantly Trump cultists flipped the script and suddenly they were all screeching about how it was the most free, fair, and secure election ever in the entire history of human civilization.
>>536641071>>536641363media here just tells us who won regardless and everyone just goes along with itthey could barely even get inebriated frat boys to show up jan 6th, had to lead them straight to and into the capitol for them to take selfies and stupid shit, while calling it an "insurrection" despite not one political getting lynched
>they really don't look all that dangerous thou->"shut up and pose for the picture"
>>536638053What?>>536641071The California system is made to draw out the voting as long as possible because the Jungle Primary encourages gaming your vote.For those who don't understand, California primaries are EVERYONE VS EVERYONE and then the top two (even if they're both red, both blue, both indie, or any mix) go to the actual election.In the last few decades this usually leads to>One republican endorsed by major republican party gets all of his votes early since all 5 republicans in California vote for him>He gets an early surge because he got all 5 votes right away!>Meanwhile dems need to figure out who to vote for, not based on who they like most, but based on who they think is getting more other votes, since they naturally want two dems in the seat, so people have to figure out, coordinate, or risk throwing their vote away>As a result Dem votes tend to come in late as fuck>Used to be California took any ballot post marked by election day, supreme court decision changed that, but their system is still slow as fuck expecting those late votesAnd imagine all of this could be solved with Ranked Choice voting.
Unfortunately there’s nothing that can be done. Trump has only held a majority in the House, Senate, and Supreme Court for 4 of the 6 years he has been in office. Even though he has promised many times to prosecute frauds and corruption, there’s simply nothing he can do. He needed to instead focus his efforts on passing massive tax cuts for the rich and starting new wars to protect Israel.
>>536636816>Elon literally committed election fraud >Also ran a "lottery(bribe)" offering $1 million for people who voted >It was actually rigged>Trump mail in voted not 2 months ago >WEMUSTSTOPDADEMOCRATSORDEMOCRACYISDEADFOREVERYou do not hate the right enough. These people are scum.
>>536637365California's automatic mail in voting and month long counting is only since 2020, not the 70s.
>>536642830Yup. And all their accusations are projections of their own guilt. They should collectively an hero so we can take our country back from (((them))).
>>536636816>YOU DON'T ID NEED ID TO VOTEWe don't believe they really think this
>>536640898He wasn't expected to win, he was expected to make second place in the primary in an election with him and 4 democrats. That looked like it was going to happen on election night, but the Democrat in 3rd place on election night who cried on camera and conceded the race on election night, got a massive pile of votes counted on the second day AFTER election day that put her in first place.
>>536641363>Instantly Trump cultists flipped the script and suddenly they were all screeching about how it was the most free, fair, and secure election ever in the entire history of human civilizationYou made this up. What they said was "too big to rig," as in "you cheated but we won so much that you still lost."
>>536642830>>Elon literally committed election fraud**thing you made up in your head, which is utterly baseless in reality (you are a crazy person btw)
>>536643284And what would be the point of rigging the vote in the first place? Pratt never had a chance of winning the second round anyway.
>>536640855>the votes and the outcomes haven't been related for at least 20+ years and probably more like 40+any election after 1920 is, by definition, constitutionally fraudulent
>>536643459To boot him out of the news cycle. He's a clown and he had no chance of becoming mayor, but he was genuinely making California Democrats look bad, especially on a national level.
>>536642830I can admit trump cheated in Kentucky if you admit California is cheating.
>>536643691>but he was genuinely making California Democrats look bad, especially on a national level.Says who?
>>53663681624000 mail-in ballots being 100% for one candidate is classic voter fraud. It is statistically impossible.
>>536636816whenever a president gets more popular votes than any other president before or since, even though he's not even the most popular person in the room when Obama shows up, yes
>>536636816>every time they lose now?They've been doing it for nearly a decade
>>536641071Ah yes speed over accuracy, the core of democracy
>>536643763Even CNN and MSNBC pundits were admitting some of his optics were favorable.
>>536644043And that was somehow damaging the prospects of a democrat electoral victory in the midterms? So much so that it would warrant rigging the elections? That's a bit of a leap in reasoning, wouldn't you agree?
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>>536636816Everytime you take longer than 1 day to count votes.That's inexcusable and cheating is the only reason to do that.
stop opposing basic voter ID u aids riddled faggot bore
>>536644210The world has proven many many many times that if a party has the power to rig an election, they will do it for all sorts of reasons and even seemingly for no reason at all. Sometimes the election results exist simply to send a message in and of themselves - think of banana republics holding 'elections' where they win with 98%, or dont even have an opponent on the ballot.Sending Pratt back to irrelevance definitely holds value to the California Dems. Remember this isnt just about upcoming national elections, this is about a local election where the local Dems have a stranglehold that they dont want threatened.
>>536643866>beforeThe population of the country is growing continuously. No matter what happens it's going to be the most votes compared to 90% of elections. Every election in the past 20 years is going to have more people voting than in 1900 or whatever.>sinceThere has been a single election after that. It's not completely linear. Reagan got more votes in the 80s then Bush did in 2000, then in 2004 bush got 10,000,000 more than he did in 2000 and had the most ever. People can still be more motivated to vote in some years than others.
>>536636816Yes, every time, and preemptively too, because they’re little bitches
>>536640711sore losers are not a new thing, however when you allow rampant cheating and rigging by design and law... then those people cannot be proven wrong.do you think the Crimean referendum was legit then? are all the people bitching about that just sore losers because Putin got it fair and square via voting?
>>536643428kys
>>536644550Dictators of banana republics don't rig elections "just because they can" - they also do it because they can easily get away with it. It's one thing to rig election results when they really matter, but to take a risk like that to for basically no reason all? That's not a credible claim to make.>>536644766>do you think the Crimean referendum was legit then? That's a really bizarre comparison. The so-called referendums in Russia-occupied territories are not legit simply because they are illegal, I don't think that even the Russians mind that nobody takes those banana-republic-like results seriously, because, well, what is anyone going to do about it? Meanwhile, Trump in his head apparently never lost a fair vote - I mean, he even accused Ted Cruz of stealing votes from him for fucks sake.
>>536645251No it is not a bizarre comparison. The point is that people do not trust it because it APPEARS rigged. Whether you do that with little green men and guns, or last minute mail-in ballots or electronic fuckery is irrelevant.
>>536645251What makes you think Democrats in California cant easily get away with it? They've even passed a slate of state laws banning a variety of voter fraud investigations, loosening just about every security check on elections, and attempting to block the Federal government from investigating. And "basically no reason at all" is your opinion.
>>536645251FWIW the state of Utah also has automatic mail-in balloting and I firmly believe that ties into the LDS church doing their own rigging, so this isn't a strictly red blue tribal opinion.
there are 3 things to remember about miggers>miggers love pedophilia>miggers hate democracy>when around miggers pull the trigger
>>536636816>JUST STOP NOTICING WHEN WE CHEAT, CHUD
>>536636816>chuddiesKys.
>>536645596>The point is that people do not trust it because it APPEARS rigged.Those claims would be much more credible if those same people weren't claiming that basically every vote that doesn't go their way is rigged.>>536645627>What makes you think Democrats in California cant easily get away with it?Because fraud on this scale must leave some kind of trail behind, no? I mean, every year, in every state, a few cheating attempts are uncovered - someone trying to vote twice, or vote for a dead relative etc. But fraud on this scale leaves no actionable evidence behind at all? No one ever talks? Are the Democrats some kind of super-organized mafia? I thought they were supposed to be a a bunch of DEI losers and communists? Seriously, isn't it weird that after all these years, the best "evidence" to support the claims of fraud is that it *looks* rigged?
>>536640711>We could have only in-person voting with ID and cons would still cry fraud whenever they lose.no, i don't think that's true.
>>536646191what do you mean by "those" people. both sides do it, were you not here for the 2016 "Russian Collusion" nonsense over Trump's dark horse victory?the problem is voter integrity is completely poor so both sides can be simultaneously wrong and right at the same time because who truly knows.some might say voting doesn't matter because the jews have already pre-ordained their new puppet and will get what they want. i don't think it's entirely that simple but the influence and AIPAC handler issue in congress absolutely is.the entire point of democracy hinges on people believing the system works (and fairly). if it doesn't, then why do we bother keeping it around?
>>536646434>2016 "Russian Collusion" nonsense over Trump's dark horse victory?But those are different things, no? First off, you have the claim that Russia interfered in the 2016 elections (which they did), then you have the claim that Trump won because of it (which is just cope) and then you have the claim that the Russians hacked the voting machines or whatever - but that's a fringe claim, not a part of the mainstream Democrat narrative. So no, I don't see how the two sides are equivalent in this regard.>the entire point of democracy hinges on people believing the system works (and fairly). if it doesn't, then why do we bother keeping it around?Wouldn't it also help if people just stopped making false claim about it?
It was rigged, we actually won just more libtard mail in ballot fraud! you lost tranny Trump will fix this!
>>536642378>Meanwhile dems need to figure out who to **print** votes for,fixed that for you.
