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The core issue of the modern problems lies not in economics or politics, the core issue lies in one question:
What value do see in individual humans?

In the ancient times, if you lived in a village others provided you with food, help, knowledge, entertainment, security and so on. You'd want to maintain good relationships with your neighbors because they are fun, because they will come to build your hut, because they will spot a thief. You will show some respect to a senile old fart because he accumulated some knowledge you won't get otherwise. You'd want to have more children because they will work in the fields.

What value do you see in individual humans today? Even here, you don't come to talk with people, you are interacting with a faceless system known as 4chan. You can earn money, buy your groceries, even get a mortgage without interacting with a human. You don't need individual humans to ensure security of your possessions, you accepts abstract concepts to provide that security.
Do you even see any value in individuals?
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>>536641018
Look at that nigga's head
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>>536641102
Pure durasteel
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>>536641018
I can't go along with your dialectic, OP.
On one hand you bewail the atomization of society, but on the other you keep mentioning the individual.

It isn't the individual. It's the collective. The community.

We don't need more individualism, nor to view all people as special unique and precious.

We need to value community.

We have the most individual freedom and expression of any time since the cavemen were in groups roaming in less than 10 people across empty wilderness, no kings no borders nor priests to appease.
Yet that shows individualism isn't the answer.

More consideration toward individuals as a concept, is not how you create a high trust society that actually does consider individuals of that society.
The better question is how do we bring back community, and I think I've found a part of what the answer. isn't. It isn't worrying about rights and respect granted to the individual. It's about rules and expectations for the community whole. Which we have attacked for the past 160 years in my opinion.
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>>536641018
>In the ancient times, if you lived in a village others provided you with food, help, knowledge, entertainment, security and so on. You'd want to maintain good relationships with your neighbors because they are fun, because they will come to build your hut, because they will spot a thief. You will show some respect to a senile old fart because he accumulated some knowledge you won't get otherwise. You'd want to have more children because they will work in the fields.
in ancient times there were less than a billion people alive
in most ancient times there were less than 500 million, significantly less

OP right now roughly 10% of all the humans ever to exist in the million some year history of the species are all alive at once
the global pop has quadrupled since WWII, then it was just over 2 billion

of fucking course individual human lives are worth less than ever
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>>536641588
Yes, community is valuable, and that value comes from members of that community, not from community as an abstraction.
You begin to value your community by extrapolating your positive experiences of interacting with individual humans.
You value a human first, and then extend this perception of value to the community as a whole.
This breaks down once you stop seeing the value in individual humans. When you no longer need to interact with people to enjoy the benefits our abstract systems provide, you no longer feel attached to underlying communities that ultimately generate those benefits.



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