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Do you think it’s strange that eating oats, rice, bread and pasta is so normalised despite it literally being equivalent to candy in terms of blood sugar and diabetes?
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No, I don't think it's strange that people eat food.
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>>536644511
You aren't eating your carbs right if they affect you like that.
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>>536644511
Diabetes is caused by a high fat diet, retard. Diabetes is essentially fatty liver diease.
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Brown people don't process carbs well.
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>>536644774
I am. I eat fruit with full fibre
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>>536644511
Just eat whatever you want
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>>536644511
People who manipulate people like to have more people to manipulate into doing their will.
Always have, always will. They consider themselves herd management. Half of the people who read that will disregard it as being too incredible to believe.
How do you feed these people without spending your wealth? You get them to feed themselves. What food sources should they be allowed to provide themselves? The stuff that can be produced at the greatest quantity.
>>>536644613
It's not really food that should make up the majority of the human diet, but being the cheapest, we've normalized basing a diet off of it... because the elites keep more money if you feed yourself shit that they don't have to fund, or even tolerate, like beef.
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>>536644806
Fat doesn’t cause an insulin spike. Only insulin causes the liver to get fat
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>>536644806
You are the stupidest poster on 4chan right now.
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>>536645007
as long as it didn't get sprayed with glyphosate immediately prior to harvest.

Carbs aren't bad, they're just often covered in glyphosate.
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Nigga people have been eating grains since the beginning of time. If you sit on your ass all day that's your problem.
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>>536644511
>oats, rice, bread and pasta
People ate this for centuries, even moreso as a proportion of their intake then we do now and yet obesity and diabetes were almost unheard of
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>>536645041
I can't believe that guy even posted that. Takes 5 seconds from a million sources to prove that shit wrong. What a retard.
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>>536644806
It is primarily sugar then secondarily all simple carbs.
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>>536645082
>Carbs aren't bad
in moderation
basing 75% of your diet on them is bad.
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>>536645127
sugar is the biggest factor, but other carbs amplified by the presence of sugar in your metabolism. It's adding insult to injury. The people in ancient Rome eating breads made from ancient grains, no chemicals added for shelf life, no chemical added to make it more palatable, and no EXPENSIVE (or even absent) sugar to spike glucose and insulin on a repetitive basis their whole lives is a giant factor here.
This isn't apples to apples, here. The statement you made is flawed on many levels.
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Yes. I eat fish. Rice. Bajal me sukh dyanga.
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>>536644806
These are the retards giving you advice on 4chan
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>>536644806
Keep eating them snackwells... Retard
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>>536644511
I think it's strange that we graduate a whole crop of kids from school every year who literally know next to nothing about health, nutrition, exercise, or anything else fundamentally useful and necessary to human beings.

Kids graduate and don't know anything about finance, they don't know anything about Law, they don't know their own RIGHTS, their own Constitution, they literally don't know ANYTHING that a person could conceivably need to know. They know how to work as a fucking DRONE, and that's about it, that's all they're qualified for.

You give everybody the education of a SLAVE and then you wonder why we're losing all our freedom, all our political power, everything.

And of course, the parents don't notice or care what's going on in their kid's classroom, they already went through their slave indoctrination and they're already working at the salt mine. Their minds have been degraded and absorbed long ago.
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>>536644511
Japs eat rice just fine. Italians eat bread and pasta just fine. Oats are full of fiber and nutrients.

American load all this shit up with poison.
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>All food is poison
>All beverages except Glyphosate water are poison
What do you just suck on ivermectin tubes everyday?
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>>536645561
Oh, a caveat to this, most Japs eat rice that was cooked the day before, and storing cooked rice overnight makes it a LOT less fattening.

It's not just chemical additives that make our food poisonous, we don't know the first thing about cooking or food prep, and it absolutely matters how you cook and prepare and serve food, it has an OVERWHELMING impact on the nutritional value and digestion.

Does anybody know anything about this? No, of course not, slaves don't need to know anything useful, you can't teach people things that might reduce their DAILY dependence on the State.
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>>536645041
Wait, I'm a fucking idiot please clarify... If I have god tier levels of insulin production I'll never get diabetes? I'll just be fat?
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>>536645791
Dude fasting. Fasting. God people are so fucking stupid. I ate one meal a day not prison home and i took off ten kilos in one fucking week dude its so easy. Ten fucking kilos. Thats twenty pounds or something.
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>>536645504
And it hasn’t occurred to you that this might be intentional?
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>>536645127
Yes, centuries. That’s no time to have any influence on our genome
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>>536645791
Nah. Insulin is extremely toxic to almost every organ. It’s evolutionarily for emergency use like when you need to quickly fatten up before winter
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>>536644511
it's literally not, but go on, bro.
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>>536644511
>rice bread pasta and oats is the same as eating candy

4chan really is full of midwit npcs
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>>536645561
They both also eat a lot of fish.
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>>536644511
>japanese and koreans eat tons of white rice every day
>some of the healthiest people in the world with the longest life expectancies
blood sugar spikes don't even matter, just don't be fat
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>>536645667
This post probably seemed more clever in your mind.
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>>536644806
Type 1 Diabetes : autoimmune disease where the body attacks insulin producing cells in the pancreas among other things. It is not related to diet.


Type 2 Diabetes: Occurs when pancreas cannot make enough insulin among other tings that happen, so eat food with low glycemic index, eat less frequently, workout etc in this case
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>>536644511
Blood sugar spike is not an issue if you are physically active and have a long time in between meals.
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>>536645041
The inability to regulate blood sugar is caused by a high fat diet, especially a diet high in saturated fat.
This is basic knowledge that the food industry has done an incredible job obfuscating.
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>>536646293
Nope you dumb nigger. You just.. need to eat less. I ate one meal a day and lost twenty pounds in a week. Thats more than one kilo per day my friend your three meals long time wont matter if you eat once the problem is solved. Or dont eat at all but dont know how long you can hold that.
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>>536645852
It's sickening how easy it is to fast when the food you eat inbetween fasts is quality food, too.
I lost 45 pounds in like three months just fasting and eating a quality meal once a day. It didn't even have to be total fasting; you can consume fats for immediate energy that don't reverse or stop ketosis.
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>>536646303
Nope. You can eat only marshmallows unless you reach the dietary limit of your natural body you can still lose weight.
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>>536646242
Nah they only eat resistant starch rice unlike us
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>>536645159
have you ever asked ai about fat and especially sat fat's role in causing metabolic disorder? You just eat up food industry propaganda that the symptom is the cause?
High fat diets overload the mitochondria. Chronic high fat diets cause fatty liver and fatty pancreas and pancreatitis.
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>>536646303
lots of people eat like shit and don't develop diabetes
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>>536644511
Italians have a national diabetes rate of only ~6% and basically all they eat is pasta. I'm not sure your premise holds.
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>>536644511
Yeah I've always thought it was weird how normalized it is to eat grains. I partake but also recognize it's the original goyslop (which is funny because modern goyslop tends to mostly just be grains but way more processed). Mass produced to give the peasants enough energy to work but not to be strong enough to revolt.
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>>536644511
>Do you think it’s strange that eating oats, rice, bread and pasta is so normalised despite it literally being equivalent to candy in terms of blood sugar and diabetes?

I think caffeine and caffeinated drinks like coffee and tea are what both 1) destroys your ability to metabolize glucose and 2) makes you crave yet more glucose

You heard it here first, folks
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>>536644774
Carbs are meant to be eaten anally

Good point
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Anons, how do I get my lipid levels down. Fasting was 227. I weigh 55 kg and don’t eat much fried food.
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>>536644806
Why did your mother even carry you to term
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>>536645782
>storing overnight makes rice less fattening
How exactly? Thats some bs. It at best starts to spoil if you leave it outside.
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>>536645065
He's from Australia is why

You have to display patience with these lesser creatures
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How else do you feed 9 billion goy slaves.
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>>536645852
yea it is incredibly easy to lose weight. Just eat once a day and no snacks. Easy.Not sure why so many people struggle with it. I soketimes eat only 1 meal even though i am thin, if i do computer work whole day i am not hungry at all
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>>536647393
eat as little fat as possible. duh.
I don't eat fat because fat inflames my joints.
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>>536647529
He has a US flag
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>>536647448
Refrigerating starches converts it to a different form of starch that is more healthy.
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>>536647442
why don't you explode the topic. Play devils advocate and learn something for once, drooler.
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>>536645082
>as long as it didn't get sprayed with glyphosate immediately prior to harvest

And when the labels say "NON GMO" this is exactly what they're notifying you of, in cleverly disguised language
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>>536644511
that jeet food looks pretty good ngl
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>>536645361
Austrians are called "fish heads" by Germans for precisely this reason
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>>536647575
I like dairy so making that change has been hard. I eat less cheese than I used to. Still like milk and yoghurt. Been trying to incorporate more fiber.
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>>536646359
Not everyone is trying to lose weight
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>>536646889
It should be non existent. You think humans got diabetes before modern diets ?
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>>536647448
>>536647615
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>>536647684
non fat dairy is fine. add aspartame to make it taste good. you can also blend frozen bananas, skim milk, and aspartame to make 'nice cream.' Tastes just like ice cream.
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>>536647618
No thanks, I just wanted to insult him most deeply

That's why I come to 4chan in the first place, for the shallow gratification of insulting people
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Just work out. Heavy exercise allows your body to make use of carbs, sugars, fats to repair muscle instead of storing it as lipid adipose tissue.
It regulates your insulin levels and greatly reduces the chance of developing type two diabetes.
Quit being lazy and lift faggot.
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>>536644511
It's not equivalent. Those foods contain complex carbs that are metabolized differently from monosaccharides.
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>>536644511
I only eat animal products as it was intended
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>>536644511
>This thing humans have survived on for millions of years is... LE BAD ACTUALLY
Ok jew
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people who don't understand how diabetes works have IQ lower than 90 most boomers i have spoken to have the same arguments that make no sense
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>>536647952
Agriculture only came about after the ice age
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>>536646889
> basically all they eat is pasta
Bong education.
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>>536647766
Thanks bro. Been trying to cut sugar too.
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>>536645907
>>536645504
Just reiterating IT IS INTENTIONAL. They are intentionally wasting the first 18 years of your life with nonsense.
Most of your history classes are bullshit, so is most of your literature education.
They should be teaching, in no particular order:
>Math
>Health
>Finances
>Basic maintenance
>Basic homemaking
>Fighting
>Basic science
>Basic history
>Classic literature
>Art

They taught me about Kwanza. It's not even a fucking real holiday. It was made by a literal criminal felon nigger, and they threw it into your education as if it's the same as Christmas. Ask yourself, why do we have nigger history month? And now kike heritage month? And faggot month? Why don't we have a math month? Or a science month? And why isn't it blasted in the media the same way faggot and nigger month are? Because it's intentional.

They don't want your children to be capable and confident. They want them fat, stupid, confused, and heading down the wrong path in life. IT'S INTENTIONAL.
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>>536647619
GMO and glyphosate are unrelated to one another
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>>536645041
biology teacher here: fat cells aren't just the energy store that everyone assumes, they also release hormones, inflammatory chemicals and signalling molecules. when you have too much fat, it releases a huge amount of inflammatory chemicals, and less beneficial hormones, so insulin signalling, i.e. your body telling itself when it needs to produce and use insulin, is obfuscated and works much less efficiently.

you'll also have excess fatty acids entering your bloodstream when your fat stores are overloaded. they'll end up in your muscle cells, your pancreas, your liver, all interfering with the chemical pathways that insulin uses to signal to cells that they need to absorb glucose.

if you have a lot of belly fat, you are at a very high risk of this obfuscation and insulin resistance, as abdominal fat drains directly in to the portal vein that leads to the liver, and once your liver is full of these fatty acids, you are essentially done for when it comes to normal insulin function.

to avoid diabetes type 2, avoid abdominal fat.
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>>536647766
Aspartame is poison that causes cancer. It was invented in a laboratory in the 1950’s and our bodies have no way of breaking it down into anything useful. It wreaks havoc on the microbiome and your own cells’ DNA.
Whereas our bodies have millions of years of evolution to help us process saccharides into useful molecules.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-06193-5
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>>536644511
Half of the country being obese abominations
Eating themselves into disability and death
It is shocking and horrifying that it is 100% normalized
Fucking disgusting fatbodies
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>>536648071
You are stupid

The NON GMO label is disguised language that means they don't GMO the plant to withstand glyphosate, but they do apply glyphosate to the plant just before harvest to dry it out a bit so it's easier for the harvesting machines to harvest

If you can read, read this: https://www.organicvoices.org/why-glyphosate-is-used-on-non-gmo-crops/

Now try not to be so stupid in the future
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>>536648246
I park at the bottom of a hill in my apartment complex and walk up the stairs to my house. I carry groceries up the stairs, take things down the stairs to my car.... people think I'm crazy. It's genuinely fucking pathetic.
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>>536648446
Carrying all your goyslop an extra 100 feet isn’t doing shit for your health but whatever helps you sleep at night after cramming down 6000 calories.
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>>536648059
sugar is the body's primary fuel source. There is no reason to cut sugar. Just eat very little fat and you're good.
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>>536648041
Australians typically think this
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>>536644806
I think there is truth to this because a high fat diet cause taxation of the full bladder and liver which leads to digestive issues. This in turn causes other organs such as kidneys, pancreas and heart to work harder. The excess fat in the body all contributes to this. Long story short low fat + low sodium diet is probably where most people need to start. The doctors from 100 years ago knew this but all that info got subverted by kikes
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>>536648581
There is a reason to cut high fructose corn syrup because fructose is only processed in the liver whereas all cells can process glucose. Table sugar, sucrose is 1 part glucose 1 part fructose. Honey is 30% glucose and 30% fructose, but it better for you than table sugar because the glucose and fructose are not connected by a glycosidic linkage and the glucose can be immediately absorbed by cells with the help of insulin. All cells require insulin to absorb glucose.
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>>536647374
Why not one, all purpose hole?
It talks, it eats, it shits, it gums you pathetic cock
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>>536648750
>Why not one, all purpose hole?

You mean like an ultra-cloaca, an omni-cloaca

Google cloaca
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>>536649256
>Google cloaca
I dont want to see pictures of you're momma
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It's amazing what you can learn chatting with the ai. I learned something new about fat that I didn't know or forgot.

basically high fat diets and obesity in general cause lipotoxicity and this causes metabolic chaos which leads to diabetes.
Sat fat is especially destructive because of its rigid structure. Sat fat wrecks mitochondria in the cell.
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>>536649697
>chatting with AI
Opinion discarded
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>>536644511
Retard, oats have plenty of fiber. It's not the same as eating pasta.
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>>536649697
When things go, you'll be killed almost immediately
Your physiognomy will be your uniform
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>>536648736
I get sugar from fruit like the frozen bananas. I don't drink sugar soda or add table sugar to anything. I don't eat sugary processed food like candy. By sugar I meant carbs anyway, basically.
Glucose is really healthy but isn't very sweet. Starch is broken down into glucose and that's why starch is so good for you.
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>>536650151
ai is useful if you already know a lot about something and can ask the right questions.
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>>536644806
Sugar and seed oils cause insulin resistance.
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>>536650356
meat is so gross. It smells like poo. That's why people cover it in spices and sauces.
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>>536648062

Truth
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>>536650545
Saturated fat is the primary cause of insulin resistance.
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>>536644774
it's literally the same thing, the flour you eat it so processed it may as well be white sugar
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>>536650850
you're a retarded nigger, it's fucking sugar you dipshit. diabetes, sugar. insulin, sugar.
>>536645065
was right
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>>536647659
Jeet food prepared by White people is unironically delicious. Must be the lack of rancid meat and feces.
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>>536650989
He’s right. Excess fats ( even the good kinds ) fuck up your digestive system. Which all your organs including pancreas are connected to
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Man, nutrition has a fuckton of garbage but leave muh oats and rye alone.
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Yeah don't eat fiber goy! Fiber bad!
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>>536644511
>Isn't it strange that people eat perfectly normal food we have eaten for thousands of years with no problems?
No, it is not.
>>536644806
Almost correct. Type 2 diabetes is solely and exclusively caused by 4-hydroxynonenal damaging the pancreatic islet cells responsible for glucagon production. 4-HNE is only produced from the peroxidation of omega 6 fatty acids. No PUFA = no type 2 diabetes. Saturated fat is fine.
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>>536645041
Insulin spikes have nothing to do with type 2 diabetes. Insulin spikes are the normal healthy response to food consumption, and are required for proper uptake of several minerals, including the primary electrolytes.
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>>536644511
A little bit of carbs is actually helpful, especially before a heavy workout.
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>>536651780
Saar thank you for your medical advice from rimjabi universitee only $1400 USD for degree 4 week program. very good work saars
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>>536644511
I do now. I hit 20 stone and started getting signs of type 2 diabetes, so I went on a diet. Problem was that because I was only eating 800 calories a day, my body was also eating my muscles at the same time and I was getting weak as fuck, so to prevent that I basically cut out everything but protein and fats. The moment carbs were gone, it was really easy to keep to 800 calories AND still eat about 150g of protein a day. I'm now 15.5 stone in only 4 months, just through dieting and some light exercise (and I mean light, I do maybe a couple of sets of weights every other day).

And now that I'm used to a meat-heavy diet, I can see how insane modern food habits are.
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>>536649256
>an omni-cloaca
Niiice.
>google cloaca
I was sexing my birds the other day. Time to eat a few extraneous roos.
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maybe if you eat that mass produced garbage they make in america itll do that, not anywhere else with food regulations
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>>536650911
>the flour you eat it so processed it may as well be white sugar
Fren, depending on the week, about 80-90% of the floor I eat is organic and freshly ground because the wife is a baking autist.
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>>536645197
Is it really, though? Seen quite a few 100 year olds who always ate like that from childhood onwards. Easily 4/5 of their diet is porridge, rice pudding, mashed potatoes, bread.
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>>536646755
You're wrong. In order to tell you where you went off the tracks, I'd have to retrain your whole brain. Nobody's saying you can only eat fat. Eating fat DOES NOT cause diabetes. Eating fat DOES NOT cause fatty liver. Fat storage is a product of a few metabolic responses, almost esclusively triggered by carbohydrates, starches and sugars.
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>shit tier soil quality
>completely eroded any and all plant nutrients by extensive agriculture
>chemOPs cocktail from the skies for over 50 years now, mhhh yummy heavy metals
>literal AIDS+flouride in the water
>amun-ra-ka GMO of a cheap insult of foodcrops grow (actually intended for "human" consuption, amun-ra-kans arent human, they are quasi human-like entities)
>WhY DoEs oUr fOoD LaCk nUtRiEnTs aNd wHy aRe aMeRiCaNs aLl sO FaT? Le BrEaD iS Le BAaaD
lol, lmao even
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>>536646889
>all they eat is pasta
Their diet is vastly different from the American diet, and being largely near the sea, there's a lot more fish and seafood eaten in Italy than you're accounting for, because you're used to what's offered in Italian restaurants. Don't discount the effects of vinegar and olive oil, too.
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>>536653197
Trad diet vs. modern diet. Limited quanitities of simple food plus whiskey.
Same with teeth. Eat like your ancestors, have great teeth (unless Bong). Eat ultraprocessed basedslop and have bad teeth.
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>>536653197
You're making broad assumptions without any proof. Show me a study. I'll read it. You're making assumptions based upon what you believe happened. People ate their own livestock, too. People hunted more, fished more, had fewer pollutants and forever chemicals in their water, by and large. The differences you're highlighting are maybe 1% of the environmental, diet and physical factors that have changed in the last 100 or even 5,000 years. Every forever chemical has arisen in the last hundred years. The relevance you're attempting to harness as an argument doesn't exist. Not apples to apples.
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>>536653344
>>536646889

There are also studies done amongst the populations who eat goat and sheep milk and cheese improving health and longevity.
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>>536644613
fpbp
>>536644511
I find it strange that a british common wealth poster is pushing some radical racism when people literally get arrested for less offensive shit in your own country

smells like royal crown psyop, and funnily enough, the UK is the country that pretty much invented israel with 500k "zionists" as their colonists
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>>536645032
>shit that they don't have to fund, or even tolerate, like beef.
if you dont like beef at all you are not human
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>>536644511
Fructose and glucose is not even close to comparable retard. Look up the metabolic pathways of each.
>>536644806
Even more retarded take
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>>536648719
Low fat low sodium was literally the last 40 years of allopathic medical advice and caused a massive spike in obesity and diabetes.
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>>536644511
Trusting one's gut instincts might be the way to go, and as another anon pointed-out observing ancestral diets can provide a good framework in terms of staples. A roast beast dinner once a week with all manner of veggies. I dig beets and red cabbage: they're inexpensive and full of nutrients. I render my own beef tallow from suet and use it for frying. Keep bacon fat. Try to not stuff your face if your activity level is low. Have a couple of pints of ale in the afternoon. Smoke crack to curb the appetite and make your own bread with olive oil.
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>>536644613
This seagal's stolen too many fries.
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>>536644511
It’s not. That’s made up keto bullshit that will be debunked as hard as the food pyramid in coming years. The Roman army subsisted on just bread. They brought down literally everyone that stood in their way for 100s of years and you think they were nutrient deficient with bad health? Not possible.
>bro just eat bacon and cheese no no apples are terrible for you Joe Rogan said so
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>>536644511
I work long, physically demanding shifts so I need carbs to fuel my body.
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>>536645852
>ten kilos in one week
Either you're retarded or just lost water weight. If you fast completely and don't eat anything you lose about half a kilo per day.
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>>536644806

Starch is a polysaccaride.
Polylsaccaride = poly + saccaride = many sugars
Insulin takes sugars and turns them to fat
Body stores this fat, particularly as visceral fat.

Starch = bread, pasta, fecula of potatoes, rice pizza dough..and so on.

Thus the huge numbers of obese fuck faces.
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>>536644511
its only like that in america where the food is poisonous and no one is active
western doctors are trained to call things like gluten intolerance a disease and profit off of it instead of admitting that american "bread" is indigestible
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>>536644933
Seems Like it.
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Disgusting nigger hand. We can't even have stockphotos of hands without them being the same color as my shit.
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>>536644511
2010 called and wants its le evil carbs meme back
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>>536654826
Well done.
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>>536644806
>12 posts
sorry about my fellow amerifat
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>>536644511
who gives a shit? it kills jeets, niggers and amerimutts

us true whites eat raw meat and drink blood and live to 140+ (got to be careful tho as govt will try to kill you if you try living our True Lifespan, see aajonus vonderplanitz). vampirism is real and works its just not in the magical sense
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>>536645929
Doesn't matter, faggot
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>>536654800
You seem twisted. Tossing in cracksmoking as an afternoon dietary measure
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>>536645334
>Uhm but what about sugar
Goalpost moving retard
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>>536650850
Confuses sugar with fat
What a dumbfuck vegan
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>>536644511
Imagine being done in by a bowl of porridge lmao
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>eat at high calorie surplus
>become fat and lazy
>develop diabetes
Many such cases.
It's really not that complicated, but this is 4chins...
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>>536652554
>NOOO STOP POSTING HATE FACTS YOU BAD GOY!11
Have a foreskin, Schlomo. You're not you when you're hungry.
>>536654690
It didn't cause shit, people did not listen. Vegetable oil consumption has continued to climb that entire time. The recommendations are shit, but they are not the cause of anything except pencil pushers getting welfare disguised as jobs.
>>536655155
>the staple foods everyone relied on for thousands of years just suddenly started making people fat in the 70s for no particular reason
How black are you?
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>>536644806
cringe, what a retard
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>>536660202
And yet you listen to the pill pushers when they say eat synthetic seed oil and animal fat is bad for Tip: if cholesterol or saturated fat were unhealthy, your brain, nervous system, and hormones wouldn't be made from them.
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>>536662251
>HURRR DURR YOU THINK THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU CLEARLY SAID!111
Gas yourself you illiterate niggerfaggot.
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>>536644511
Just eat wholegrain.
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>>536644511
People can barely understand first grade math. Tracking macros and maintaining proper ratios of food intake is like solving string theory for them.
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>>536647318
people who post low iq stuff online should be rounded up and executed desu
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>>536644511
> Do you think it’s strange that eating oats, rice, bread and pasta is so normalised
No. It's the lowest cost highest margin.
2 groups of people in Europe historically. Going way back, thousands of years.
1. Early European Farmers.
Were short, med types. Average height was about 5'2" for the males. They were short because they were farmers and ate mostly grain. Only a little animal.
2. Western Steppe Herders.
Were a lot taller. 5'9" on average. These guys were cow boys, driving large herds of cattle. They ate exclusively meat and dairy.
So. The Steppe Herders completely BTFOd the farmers. 95% of the farmers male lines went extinct.
Wanna know why? Because they were 5'2" and diseased with malnutrition.
Everyone from northern Europe can trace most of their ancestry back to Western Steppe Herders who ate an almost exclusively meat diet.
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>>536663628
not necessary. Today I had a pile of potatoes for lunch ( I don't eat dinner). I ate as much as I wanted. I stuffed myself with potatoes.
Not hard to eat right.
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1) pasta and rice are slightly slower to digest than candy sugar. It's not a major factor but it's there
2) carb diet is fine if you do actual labor like people used to, in fact beneficial. The short term energy enabled maximal performance and was not detrimental because it was used, removed from the blood quickly. People would drink smallbeer and eat bread all day and work hard based off of that. Instead, people now have email jobs or are NEETs and refuse to exercise or do manual labor for personal projects in their offtime
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>>536650911
>the flour you eat it so processed it may as well be white sugar
White sugar actually spikes your insulin less and doesn't contain as many anti nutrients.
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>>536644511
my grandma told me oatmeal is healthy, faggot
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>>536644511
Don't eat that as a main staple in your diet you should eat a majority meat,vegetables/fruits and eggs
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>>536645041
it causes chronically high insulin levels, as it impairs insulin sensitivity. the fat blocks the receptor sites. carbs increase insulin sensitivity, this has been known for over 100 years
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1394223/?page=1
insulin levels are a more complex test, and are usually never ordered. this is why diabetic seem to be ok on keto diets.
https://youtu.be/ks0hHmkXXuo
a very interesting video, a bunch of paleo idiots who had horrible markers for just about everything, despite exercising and being muscular. after a short time on a mediterranean diet, their markers all went into acceptable ranges.
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>>536644511
Grains have always been the main source of calories. What woukd you recommend peopke to eat?
>>536645334
Romans LITERALLY boiled grape must in lead pots to obtain sweetener.
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>>536644806
It's caused by eating trash all the time every hour of every day. Intermittent fasting and occasional 24hr fats can solve 99% of amerigoys health problems. Problem is shit like corn-syrup makes you feel hungry all the time. A lot of the goyslop they make is designed to make you feel hungry and want more of the trash so you're stuffing your face 24/7. It's actually really difficult to develop diabetes.

My grandfather was drinking all the time, eating cakes and pies and sugary bullshit for decades and even after all that only managed to become borderline diabetic which he manages with pure diet restriction alone. Even when he was at his fattest he didnt come close to some of these americans. Probably not even the average american weight these days. Americans are going through the gauntlet of bad eating like no civilization has ever done before. My neighbor accross the street must be at least 350lbs. It's amazing he can even walk I have no idea how he got so fat, his whole family is like this.
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>>536668309
>Problem is shit like corn-syrup makes you feel hungry all the time.
The most potent hunger inducer is actually fat. Fat has opiate like effects on the body. Avoid fat as much as possible if you are trying to lose weight.
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>>536668748
Has not been my experience. Fat in my diet has never induced my hunger to even 1/10th what corn syrup and goyslop shit does. My normal diet consisting of many fats isn't even close and it's an incurable hunger. Likely because this shit is scientifically researched to sell product, unlike fat. Most of the frozen slop and pre boxed shit not only makes me feel terrible, it does not satiate my appetite at all.
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>>536644511
If oats are bad then why would people eat them? They taste like bland shit.
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>>536645003
Fruit is closer to candy on your bloodstream than grains you fat mongoloid
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I have people telling me that my 23 hour fasts are making me fatter because 'my body is starving' so it stores what little I eat into fat, none of that carbs
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>>536644806
You unbelievable retard lmao
Do you know of this thing called pancreas
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>>536671652
what happens is a fatty liver continuously releases sugar into the bloodstream because it is dysfunctional. This signals to the pancreas to release more insulin, which signals to the liver to store even more fat in itself and become even more dysfunctional and release more sugar into the bloodstream. The panaceas also becomes fatty and dysfunctional.
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>>536644511
Actually, you could theoretically consume as many carb calories as you burn and your blood sugar wouldn’t rise dramatically and you wouldn’t become diabetic unless your body already had an issue handling glucose. However, you would lose so much muscle mass without any protein that you would develop other serious health problems. Usually the people eating these foods have some sort of protein rich meat so it’s probably not really the issue you think it is unless they over indulge
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>>536654839
Joe Rogan is a fucking retard who tells people that fasting gives you energy and removes toxins. Your liver is always filtering toxins. The “energy” isn’t energy at all and it’s your body releasing stress hormones. Fasting can also cause constipation. Your body needs carbs, fats, and protein to be healthy. You don’t want to overdo it but restricting one of more of these will lead to health problems
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>536672171
Fatty liver is known as non alcoholic steatohpatitis, not what diabetes is. You keep trying to meme that the liver does what the liver does, it's like you have an humiliation fetish ITT, not even giving you the (You)
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>>536673173
Diabetes is a multifaceted disorder. Fatty liver plays a central role in the development of type 2 diabetes.
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>>536644511
>>536645003
>>536645041
OP LYING FAGGOT
OP LYING FAGGOT
OP LYING FAGGOT
> oats and rice are not equivalent to candy for blood sugar or diabetes.
> Candy causes a much faster and sharper glucose spike, while oats and most forms of rice digest more slowly and have very different metabolic effects.
> But white rice can behave closer to candy than oats
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>>536673341
>Diabetes is a multifaceted disorder
No it isn't.
>Fatty liver plays a central role in the development of type 2 diabetes.
No it doesn't. They just have a high correlation because they are both caused by excess omega 6 consumption.
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>>536644511
>t. OP
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>>536644613
Still does all his own stunts
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>>536671603
I get told the same shit. Or that I have an eating disorder because I can go 24 hours between meals. Nevermind my skin looking better or me having more energy or my inflammation going away or my sleep improving or my brain fog disappearing.
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>>536671603
My doctor told me that I needed to lose a little bit of weight toward the end of March, so I started intermittent fasting (basically an 8-hour window in the day I can eat), and I do two meals consisting of two turkey sandwiches, and I also switched from Redbulls to some sugar-free energy drink that tastes like Pepsi, and I'm down almost 40 pounds.

Reading up on it, I have heard that your body will hit a point of equilibrium as you lose weight, so it will stop burning fat as quickly because you don't need as much energy as you're carrying less weight around.
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>>536675700
Yeah but that equilibrium depends on how many calories your burn every day and how many calories are in your sandwiches. If I had to guess that’s probably 800-1000 calories total so you wouldn’t reach an equilibrium. But if you started out obese and did 2000 calories a day, eventually you would reach equilibrium if you kept it up. Which would be maintenance calories. I’ve don’t diets like yours in years past to lose weight and my guess is you might be under the recommended amount of protein for your body type so you could have muscle loss. Also you probably need more fiber, that type of diet causes constipation. I dropped a bunch of weight (and loss muscle) doing something like that and when I upped my calories I had a rock hard giant turd that nearly killed me.
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>>536644806
>Gas tank explosions are caused by the tank, retard. Gas tank explosions are essentially exploding gas tanks
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>>536644806
Boomer moment



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