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It is impossible for me to believe in anything after. If we are met with goodness or punishment in the end then life is most beautiful story ever told but if not then it is simply just a passing joke. Heaven and Hell share the same humor, Hope.
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>>536650401
You do you then, don't commit any heinous crimes.
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>>536650401
Hell isnt even in the Bible, what gets translated to Hell is either greek version, gehanna (the town dump where trash was burned) or the pit (ie the grave). The Bible says that when you die you descend into the pit (grave) until judgement day, if your soul is judged good then you get to live in the thousand year new earth and if evil, your soul is destroyed. Most people have not read the bible and instead believe paradise lost, dantes inferno and the left behind series are canon
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>>536650904
Hell isn't in the bible because Hell is a Greek concept, and not a jewish concept, and the bible was written by jews. Sheol is the jewish name for the jewish underworld, and Gehenna was a physical place outside Jerusalem where they used to burn babies alive.

Most christians have a very low IQ and genuinely believe the bible was written in English rather than translated to English, and that translation is intentionally misleading.
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>>536650401
That sounds like a skill, experience, or intelligence issue. We wake up, and today is not the same as yesterday. Where you lived, where & what you ate, what you thought, what the world was like, and what you did at the age of 10 were radically different than that of 20. The only constant of life is change, and if you cannot imagine a world after the life you live right this very second, then it is because you have not lived very much.
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>>536650738
Why should he believe in crime if he does not believe in the future? He is a goldfish staring out from a tank into a stagnant environment, never dreaming of after, nor having the memory to recall before; 6 seconds is his entire world.
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>>536650401
Maybe good or evil aren't the point. Maybe drama, the things that happen to us and the choices we make, good or evil, are the point. Maybe the journey is more important than the destination, if you forgive the cliche.

Maybe our spirits are just the vessels for a dreaming God to know itself, it's own creation, and to such a being all the things that happen to us, both horrific and amazing, are just part of the experience.

>>536650904
>if evil, your soul is destroyed
Why would an omniscient being create evil souls if he is just going to destroy them? Abrahamic beliefs are never able to adequately square the existence of an all powerful being with the idea of freewill. If God created you, and God is Good, then why would he create souls that are destined to be evil, just to be destroyed? That seems insanely callous and evil in itself, considering that these souls are entities that still feel and fear and don't want to die. Evil acts aren't even always done out of evil intentions or for evil reasons, sometimes evil is brought about by the best of intentions.
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>>536652057
Its not actually difficult to explain, christians believe you cannot have good without evil, just like you cannot have light without darkness or cold without heat. For good to exist so too does evil, very basic concept a child can understand
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>>536652313
No, I understand that argument. In that case though God is still creating beings whose entire existence is to suffer for the benefit of those who he happened to create as "good" souls. God made beings, capable of self awareness, literally just to suffer and be destroyed. That's pretty fucking awful no matter how you slice it.

"Yeah bro, I created your brother as a "good" guy so he gets to live forever in eternal bliss, but you I created "bad" so i'm just gonna destroy your soul, even though your nature was my fault and you had no real input. Sucks to suck I guess. Lmao not my problem."

The whole concept of Good and Evil are kind of retarded when you break them down. They are relative concepts that only exist when Men force them to exist. There are no good and evil in nature, just life in all it's glory and horror.
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>>536652313
>christians believe you cannot have good without evil

What was the original entity to exist? God. God is good. Therefore your claim is incoherent bullshit--if God is good, and God existed before anything else, then good can exist without evil.

A literal elementary schooler could think up this argument, and yet a trained theologian could never refute it!
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>>536650401
Living on Earth IS Gods representation of living in Hell.
The hard part is already done.
Mass is consequential. You cant learn anything without consequence.
The afterlife would be a return to the bigger fractal that, is ever more real than this world now.



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