One thing I often hear is that Christianity just took on local pagan customs and festivals and that all their holy days are actually just appropriated pagan celebrations, but also that no one really knows all that much about what ancient pagans actually believed or celebrated because they wrote nothing down.I also hear people say it's a foreign desert religion alien to Europe. So which is it? You can't have both. Either it is the last record of ancient pagan European tradition, or it took on nothing from local cultures, and is totally foreign but unadulterated.
>>536660660Jesus was a jew. His disciples were jews. He preached almost exclusively to jews.
>>536660660>I also hear people say it's a foreign desert religion alien to Europe.Only atheists say that because they hate the idea of someone having any beliefs beyond basic bitch nihilism. They want you to just as unhappy as they are.
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>>536660660It's both. It's not really arguable that they picked up quite a few pagan festivals/rituals; maybe not as many as "all," but at least some; but of course that doesn't mean we know what the original festival was, we only know the Christian version. We may know that eggs and rabbits probably have something to do with Easter/Oestre, but that doesn't tell us how the festival would've been done prior to it being retcon'd to be about Jesus. We don't know what Christians took away or changed.>Um nuh uh you have to meet my binary phrasing of the ideaRefer to the sticky for any complaints along these lines, I don't have time for them.
>>536660801Jesus was a Galilean, there were 12 tribes of israel, judeans were one of them. christianity before christ was called "the way" and the judeans (jews) and many others, followed a bastardized version of the way, which is why god sent jesus to set them on the right path.To say jesus is a jew is to say hitler was a briton.
>>536660660>Christianity just took on local pagan customs and festivals and that all their holy days are actually just appropriated pagan celebrationsthis is all hippie/new age/atheist cope that started in the 70s. Same with their halloween bullshit.
>>536661043>We don't know what Christians took away or changed.by the same token you don't know what there was or wasn't beforehand.>Refer to the stickypic rel
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>>536660660> One thing I often hear is that Christianity just took on local pagan customs and festivals and that all their holy days are actually just appropriated pagan celebrationsNot all but this is mostly true > but also that no one really knows all that much about what ancient pagans actually believed or celebrated because they wrote nothing downThere are things we don’t know but we know a lot. We have extant sources and a pretty good record. > I also hear people say it's a foreign desert religion alien to Europe.Christ wasn’t even born in a desert nor did he give his gospel in a desert. When people say this I wonder if they know basic geography. It was the eastern Mediterranean, a Greek and then Roman colony. In fact that area was Greek before Italy had Romans in it. > So which is it? You can't have both. Either it is the last record of ancient pagan European tradition, or it took on nothing from local cultures, and is totally foreign but unadulterated.When Christ came, he didn’t come to wipe the slate clean but correct, purify, and sacrifice to offer salvation. There is no need to do away with ancient customs and many of them were done away with. They were just modified. Take for example, a prayer to a god of a hunt. If you wanted a good hunt, you would go to a shrine, make an offering, and say a prayer. After the church showed up, you could still do the exact same thing, only instead of praying to a god you’re praying so as to ask some holy man like a saint to intercede on your behalf and you don’t have to make the sacrificial offering because Christ already fulfilled all the sacrifices in his sacrifice. So does the pagan custom still exist. Well, yeah. It’s just not really pagan anymore. It’s been corrected and purified.
