>>536692373If the anti-christ supports the EU then I must oppose it.
>the heretic bishop of Rome supports the cuckold union Lmao no surprises here
>>536692374>ordained a tranny priest award>blessed a "marriage" of two faggots award>donated church money to Israel award
>>536692375You’de literally be owned by some gulfie investment fund if it wasn’t for the EU.
>>536692375>>536692374>a mongol and a turk rapebabyneither of you are european
>>536692373how long until we give the Vatican veto powers? we need to do it before the europe-wide legalization of gay marriage
>>536692373Time to call my boy benji.
>opposes abortion access for Europeans>opposes fag rights to sodomize>opposes tranny rights to mutilate >opposes capitalist exploitation>opposes America>opposes Pissraelyeah he’s based
>>536692376but enough about the last ten popes
What the actual fuck? NO POPERY. Fucking cucktholics. Now excuse me, I must go to my protestant church, where we will sing songs praising IDF while my transgender priestess will marry a beautiful gay couple under the LOVE of god
>>536692383lmao they really do dat
>>536692381You should move elsewhere
>>536692385one of the founding fathers, like me, was an Irish Catholic. i’m not going anywhere Shlomo
>>536692377You're owned by Somalis and Africans, timmy>>536692378>tf>tp
pisstestants seething
>>536692376>>536692379Who cares about muh gay marriage? Go back to twitter.
>>536692374>Calvin>faith alonePick one
lowtestants really have lesbian bishops and priestesses and still think they’re “based”
>>536692373GodsChosenPeople
>>536692373God is always on the Europeans' side.
>>536692381This pope is hella holy
>>536692374I genuinely don't get how can anyone not be repulsed by the concept of predestination. It's satanic, it goes against the very core of human sovl.
>>536692381Is he? He seems pretty softI have only seen him talk about environmentalism and shit like that
True Christianity does not teach God loves everyone.The Bible clearly says God hates everyone.The Bible says in Psalm 5:5, "God hates all workers of iniquity", and Romans 3:23, states: "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"There are no innocent people, all humans are born sinners and deserve death. Thank God for dead soldiers.God hates the world because the world is evil and was made by the Devil. Repent or perishhttps://x.com/GODHATESTHWORLDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9o1X_TNXWA
>>536692387I’m serious. Your leverage in international dealings would be nonexistant without a united Europe behind you. It’s quite literally the only thing seperating you from countries like Armenia and Tunisia
>>536692373I dont think thats an endorsement for everything about the EU but calling for the EU to prioritize unity among European countries which is kind of the whole original point anyways?
>>536692395>No God can’t punish evil humanity with natural disasters, plagues, wars, and famines we are innocent pipo even though all flesh is evil and the world was created by the devil.>we humans are innocent, we dindu nuffin its not like we murder, steal, fornicate, lie, blaspheme every day!!!!Thank God for war, thank God for dead soldiers, thank God for natural disasters, thank God for hurricanes, tsunamis, earthquakes, wildfires and floodsThank God for climate change and global warming.Thank God for pandemics and plagues and diseases.THANK GOD FOR EVERYTHING! REJOICE IN ALL OF GOD’S JUDGEMENTS!
>>536692397>>536692400This nigga crazy as hell
>>536692396look up his statements on all of the aforementioned topics, there are news articles for all of those + more
>>536692381The pope is based???
>>536692399The US was untill a year ago still the arbiter of international law and the idea that’s its something we’re all supposed to follow. The EU remains as the sole block that allegedly abides by stuff like the human rights charter and the UN childrens convention. The only one still granting real money in crisis relief after natural disasters etc. Actual christ like behaviour.
>>536692375dude does not support gay shit though right?
>>536692381ratzinger was based like this too
>>536692398You mean sovereign countries and not slaves to the zog?
>>536692391>picrelHoly shit lmao
>>536692406Ratzinger was opposed to Islam. He was the last true pope before the argentine jesuit cunt
>>536692373the holy european union
>>536692381Holy Father... I KNEEL
>>536692381i got pissed off at beginning for being an American pope but he's pretty based, not to mention how he looks like a very nice person. Sometimes i miss being Catholic.
>>536692412>Sometimes i miss being Catholic.what happened
>>536692373Don't do it guys, gives the old geezer way too much power, just tell him to shut up and nominate your own bishop as pope to let him know who's boss
>>536692374trvke
>>536692374why does he look swarthy?
>>536692413He's debt trapped by Evangelicals.
>>536692374Sola fide is not applicable to Calvinism>>536692395Predestination is just the logical conclusion of an omnipotent all-knowing God.Fake Christians don't want an all-powerful God, they want a humanized god that can be talked to and convinced when his decisions don't benefit us.If you were a true Christian then you would accept any and all decisions by God without question nor argument. He knows everything and His criteria is perfect and beyond any doubt.
>>536692397learn to read moron
>>536692420You cant make me
>>536692376>here's your based pope brolololololol
>>536692404Being the only one to adhere to international laws will hurt you more than help you. The international rules based order only works if the USA and its military is willing to enforce it, because europe is certainty too weak to.
>>536692373The European Union would be cool if it was named Holy Roman Empire and had a Habsburg as the symbolic Head of State though.
>>536692424>All the countries that aren't monarchies add the title King to their president/prime minister>Emperor is crowned as Caesar of EVROPA by the Pope, the Patriarch of Constantinople, and Martin Luther's ghost, while all the "Kings" are present and kneel to him>Give him a city block in Vienna to build a fuck off huge palace in that hosts the European government, ala Vatican city, and exhibits art and historic artifacts from all euro countriesVGGGGGHHHHHHH
>>536692412>Sometimes i miss being Catholic.come back, brother...>>>/his/18518926
>>536692373this dude is an antisemite like the last one they should drop him get a fresh one in
>>536692373Does the Pope know the EU's policy on abortion and gay marriage?
>>536692398Greece would still be the Eastern Roman empire if Catholic maurauders didn't stab it in the back with the fourth crusade.
>>536692381But he keeps shilling for more migrants.That's why I can't never support any of the recent Pope's.They can't seem to see the destruction of the church influence by the sheer invasion of some of these migrants.
>>5366924261. Original sin is wrong2. Immaculate conception is a cope3. Eternal torment doesn't exist.>>536692430A Catholic Church with a backbone would have called for the conversion of these migrants after a period of 2 years, or else they get deported to safe third-party countries.
>>536692431>I don't like these concepts so they must be morally or ontologically wrong
>>536692432Original sin is both morally and logically wrong. You cannot be culpable for someone else's actions, and it would be morally wrong for God to hold someone else's actions against you. Augustine was wrong when he came with original sin, Augustine didn't have a strong grasp of Greek, and he lived in the 5th century, isn't it strange that for the 4 preceding centuries few, if any, of the church fathers believed in original sin?
>>536692433The Catechism says the original sin isn't about being guilty for someone's actions. It's a sin in the analogical sense and not in the same sense as a personal sin.>404 [...] By yielding to the tempter, Adam and Eve committed a personal sin, but this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen state. It is a sin which will be transmitted by propagation to all mankind, that is, by the transmission of a human nature deprived of original holiness and justice. And that is why original sin is called "sin" only in an analogical sense: it is a sin "contracted" and not "committed" — a state and not an act.>405 Although it is proper to each individual, original sin does not have the character of a personal fault in any of Adam's descendants. It is a deprivation of original holiness and justice, but human nature has not been totally corrupted: it is wounded in the natural powers proper to it, subject to ignorance, suffering and the dominion of death, and inclined to sin — an inclination to evil that is called concupiscence". Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ's grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God, but the consequences for nature, weakened and inclined to evil, persist in man and summon him to spiritual battle.We aren't culpable for anyone's actions. We inherited a faulty state that makes mankind inclined to evil if we don't keep vigilant and diligent to do good.
>>536692406>>536692409They even made him retire early because of it. The papacy is a soulless husk now and should be dismantled.
>>536692434>this sin affected the human nature that they would then transmit in a fallen stateHow? Parents don't decide the nature of their children, God does. If Adam and Eve's disobedience "corrupted" Human nature,and that nature was passed on to their children, that's only because God let it.>Baptism, by imparting the life of Christ's grace, erases original sin and turns a man back towards God,How does baptism erase original sin? Are you really going to tell me that two newborn babies, one baptised and the other not baptised, have different Human natures, such that the baptised one has had the "corruption" inherited from Adam's and Eve's disobedience removed from their nature? If it's really that easy to remove such "corruption" from Human nature, then why doesn't God do that for all Humans, just as he did it for the Virgin Mary(and for whatever reason, only the Virgin Mary).
>>536692422>nooooo the pope can't do that thing Jesus did in the gospels that's soooo laaaaame! deus vult!
>>536692374Based
Just like modern sequels and remakes, HRE 2 will be ass
>>536692373Make Ursula bend the knee
>>536692436>that's only because God let it.>If it's really that easy to remove such "corruption" from Human nature, then why doesn't God do that for all HumansThat's the Problem of Evil. There are answers to that in the Catechism too (302-324 and 385-421). Excerpts:>309 If God the Father almighty [...] cares for all his creatures, why does evil exist? [...] Only Christian faith as a whole constitutes the answer to this question [...]>310 [...] with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. [...] the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature [...]>311 [...] God is in no way, directly or indirectly, the cause of moral evil. He permits it, however, because he respects the freedom of his creatures and, mysteriously, knows how to derive good from it [...]>395 [...] It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but "we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him.">412 But why did God not prevent the first man from sinning? St. Leo the Great responds, "Christ's inexpressible grace gave us blessings better than those the demon's envy had taken away." and St. Thomas Aquinas wrote, "There is nothing to prevent human nature's being raised up to something greater, even after sin; God permits evil in order to draw forth some greater good. Thus St. Paul says, 'Where sin increased, grace abounded all the more'; and the Exsultet sings, 'O happy fault,. . . which gained for us so great a Redeemer!'"tl;dr: it's was in God's plans to create an imperfect world in motion towards perfection instead of a static perfect world. He can somehow derive a greater good from it. The fall of man is redeemed by the rise of Christ.
>>536692441>He permits it, however, because he respects the freedom of his creatures 1. Does God love each individual person more than their own parents love them?2. Would a loving parent allow their children to be murdered or raped so as to respect the "freedom" of the murderor or rapist?3. If the answer to 1. is yes, and the answer to 2. is no, then there's a contradiction.
>>5366924421. I guess so2. False equivalence. In this analogy the murderer or rapist would be their children too and these parents would be all knowing creators of the universe, aware of how to derive a greater good from actions we find bad. So it's not even comparable3. Your analogy oversimplified the situation so it's not valid argument
>>536692373This new pope sucks.
>>536692429>half a dozen deadbeat crusaders decimated a whole empire beyond recovery for 250 years until they got cucked into oblivion by the Turksproving anon's point on greater good >>536692443Filioque is true, and Bellarmine was right
>>536692443>In this analogy the murderer or rapist would be their children tooAlright, would a loving parent allow one of their children to murder another of their children, just to respect the "freedom" of their child who harbours murderous intent?>how to derive a greater good from actions we find badThis part of the argument is doing a lot of heavy lifting. What possible "greater good" can be derived from evil? The quotes you gave here >>536692441 give an example of Jesus' crucifixion. But I struggle to see how that's better than evil not existing in the first place.
>>536692445>Filioque is trueOmitted from the Nicene creed for centuries, it was only added to combat Arianism in the Iberian peninsula.The Eastern Roman empire would have been able to push the Turks were it not for the turmoil inflicted on it by the fourth crusade and Latin Empire. Constantinople had repelled multiple assaults from Turks and Arabs before then.
>>536692447nigga they had 250 years to recover, just accept divine providencethey blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and got reket for itConstantinople got obliterated by the Turks on the day that they celebrate the feast of the Holy Spirit, it was 100% divine providence just like Alexandria
>>536692448>something bad happens to my enemies: punishment from God!!!>something bad happens to me: a test of my resolve!!!This is stupid logic. Bad things happen to good people all the time. The doctor that first purposed obstericians to wash their hands before delivering babies, thus saving millions of women and babies from dying from complications of childbirth, that man died in an insane asylum, discredited by the medical field of the time.
>>536692446From what I understand the kernel of the argument is that God didn't want to create a finished, stable, perfect world from the beginning and wanted to allow opposing forces that could lead to a movement towards perfection. Why? I don't know and we probably have too limited information to try and deduce what the Creator of the universe is thinking. This is the part where you have to rely on the Holy Spirit guiding your wisdom and understanding>1831 The seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. They belong in their fullness to Christ, Son of David. They complete and perfect the virtues of those who receive them. They make the faithful docile in readily obeying divine inspirations.
>>536692449>This is stupid logic.you're legit arguing with yourself, I never said that>Alexandria gets rekt for rejecting Chalcedon>Attila gets rekt for trying to conquer Rome>Constantinople gets rekt for blaspheming against the Holy Spirit>Arians become hardcore Catholics>the Umayyadis conquer that shithole that was the Iberian Peninsula and turn it into a powerhouse, just so Allah could kill them and give everything to Rome so Rome could conquer the New World>Russia gets rekt for causing more schism (cutting itself off from Constantinople)>Germany gets rekt for trying to conquer Rome (Catholic-majority areas now dominate their industry)>British Empire gets rekt for accepting an adulterer king and loses its most important colony, continues to get rekt into oblivion after losing their apostolic successiondivine province is so obvious it's genuinely funnymeanwhile Rome remains supreme and relevant, not even the most powerful nation in the world (that you lost) could handle the pope being meanie to them
>>536692451How is that logic different from protestant's prosperity theology?>I'm so rich, I'm a billionaire, that must mean that God loves me and everything I say is right!That's an obviously wrong logic.
>>536692452>How is that logic different from protestant's prosperity theology?because no camel ever goes through the hole of a needle>That's an obviously wrong logic.it's called divine chastisementit's all over the Old Testament and St. John warns about it in Revelation>Brazil gets rekt for deposing a righteous Catholic king, goes from one of the most educated nations in the world to a favela infested tranny shithole>Portugal gets rekt for deposing a righteous Catholic king, goes from one of the most powerful empires in history to a jeeted up divorce infested shithole>France gets rekt for embracing apostasy, goes from one of the most powerful empires in history to a terrorist breeding ground>Argentina gets rekt for embracing apostasy, goes from being "the France of the Americas" to sucking Chimpanzil's dick for a living>USA gets rekt for supporting Masonry against Catholics in Mexico, now being replaced by the very Mexicans they sought to destroy>Poland becomes the king of gibs, now a global contender for being faithful to Allah the most mercifuland I could go on and on, you can't learn about that stuff and not realize God has a sense of humor
>>536692451Brudda Latam is catholic and a shithole meanwhile America is some weird mix of schizo denominations and they're prosperous, does that mean their Christianity is more right that yours
>>536692454see >>536692453Latam is mostly apostate states, especially Brazil>America is some weird mix of schizo denominations and they're prosperousthe USA is one of the biggest shitholes on this side of the world, they're a wageslave fent zombie corporate surveillance state poisoning the planet with tranny shit and consumerism enslaved by a country on the other side of the world with 10 million people, you're one of their vassals so of course you think money = prosperity, that's how mentally enslaved you areprosperity = healthy birthrates, high trust, hygiene, fulfillmentyou can only find that in Catholic majority areas that are populated by actual orthodox Catholics, and Latin America has a bunch of those spread all throughout
You are very low IQ if you believe in religions
>>536692453>goes from one of the most educated nations in the worldSource?
catholics will burn in hell
>>536692373>2026>cucktolic church still pretends their opinion matters like it's the middle agesWhat causes this?
we dont need christcuck endorsement
>>536692373Evropa for everyone!
>>536692373Who asked this geriatric gor approval?
>>536692381Where is he on cultural genocide via endless intermixing aka multicult
>>536692373The only thing that the EU knows how to do is virtue signal like a faggot with a dragon dildo up his ass. The EU has no fucking teeth. Sole reason why anyone outside listens to them is because it's a big market and they want a piece of the pie. The EU has no natural resources, no real unity, no standing army, no mentally sound pro native population policy, no nothing. Fuck the EU.
>>536692427Weird that all these AIs go anti semitic without filter.it's almost like superior intelligence is telling us something.
>>536692419Predestination just mean your a soulless automaton. I can' t find salvation because God decided if you go to Hell or Heaven even before you ancestor were born. You choice and action aren't your own and yet, predestination act like you are responsible for them when it come to your soul's salvation or damnation.It's retarded
>>536692373cringe>>536692381never mind, based
>>536692455Great analysis short of the very end, the white Catholics are suffering too, the prosperity being enjoyed is actually for the Hispanics who are favored by the Jewish ruling class with prefential school admissions and hiring not to mention welfare money AND the same goes for the Hispanic Protestants/Cristianos who enjoy the same racial preference from the system.
the cocksucker also wants infinite migration because christcucks need brown low iq savages to fill their churches
>>536694244Nowhere in the Bible does it hint, does it even suggest, that you are thinking being with free will who can decide their own fate. You are dust. From it you were created, and to it you will return. Does that sound like you're special? Nevermind the fact that the Bible talks nonstop about "the elect". The elect who will stand with God, who will see theough the great deception of the end, etc. It doesn't say, "the people who made the choice to follow him." It says, "the elect" i.e. people God has chosen.Your life is planned out before you were born. It all weaves into his grand tapestry.
>>536694863>because Jews need brown low iq savages to fill the white countries fify
>>536694975don't gunt guard for christoids. they're just as cancerous.
>>536692373It took an American to get shit done! You’re welcome EUkeks.
>>536694949I agree with >>536694244Predestination is a retarded take. The Bible is full of wisdom you can accept or ignore. God gets pissed at people who commit evil and he fucks them up with natural disasters and foreign invasions.
>>536695016I'm Christian and a national socialist.
>>536692373Are you shocked? The Vatican is entirely tied in with continental European politics. That's why the Catholic Church has been so pro-Ukraine: its politics are entirely aligned with western European politics.
>>536692374>no graven images>idol tattoos
>>536694949If Calvinism is real then God is more evil than the Devil. The only difference between a Calvinist and a Satanist is the target of their worship.
>>536692374But Trump doesnt support the EU.
Is Leo on of the youngest Popes we've had for a while? Some of them looked like Popehood was the only thing stopping the grim reaper from snatching them.
>>536692373Chicago shitlib christcúck is shilling for EUshocking!
>>536692373as foretold in The Bible
>>536696885na, youre just seeing the wonders of modern medicine, especially what an affluent American can obtain. Hes on average or little older then the last 5. John Paul II, rest in peace your holiness, was the youngest i know of in recent.
UH OH
>>536692373>The Holy Roman Empire 2Meaning that just like its predecessor, it's neither holy, nor Roman, not to mention it's not an actual empire.
>>536692425>>Emperor is crowned as Caesar of EVROPA by the Pope, the Patriarch of Constantinople, and Martin Luther's ghost>Martin Luther's ghostWould be a bit ironic no ?
>>536692425>there are Germans unironically fapping to this
