A true intellectual welcomes counterarguments.
In his case yes, I suppose, until the feminists started to mock him.
It's true. It's why I know virtually everyone here is a massive retard.
>>536693531if they are sound and well thought out that come from a person with similar intellect or higher; most "people" on this board are double digit niggers so it is incredibly rare to stumble upon something truly bright
>>536694066Of course that's not to say that Theodore wasn't an absolute dipshit, really.
>>536693531Here's my argument: The lump in the back of head grew to the point it fills the whole palm of my hand. I had headaches almost everyday.
>>536693531no shit, sherlock
>>536694066The site is overrun by bots and bad actors for some time. What's more concerning the collapse of legacy media. I don't feel well informed anymore, almost everything has been poisoned by misinformation and bias.
>>536693531Debates aren't done to persuade the person you're debating against, but a third party (usually an audience of some kind). It is a complete waste of time to debate someone of differing views unless their is some kind of third party your both trying to influence. Both parties have already made up their mind, you're just wasting oxygen. Better to agree to disagree and focus on what you have in common, not apart.Not to mention in the modern era you get right side of history liberals that will try to ruin your life because you have a differing opinion. In that case you're not just wasting time but actively causing yourself grief by engaging with them.Thinking you can change someone's mind isn't the sign of an intellectual, it's a sign of arrogance. People can only change themselves, you can't change others.
>>536694217Legacy media had also been poisoned with misinformation the difference is that legacy was consistent with its lies across multiple networks which made it more reassuring and comfy
>>536693531Jup ... :)
>>536694226>nobody is ever convinced by anyone, and this is true 100% of the time.No. It's just hard, approaching impossible. The idea that you just can't convince anyone of anything is ridiculous, because you posted that thinking you're going to convince people to stop. You don't even believe it. Don't be a kike.
>>536694226My opinion is that you're low iq af and homosexual
>>536694647way to prove his point lmao
>>536694066Fuck you white bitch fucking nazi banderiteZBRICSislam will win
>>536693531The left don't want to debate against the right. Violence is the only solution, cope.
>>536694226>Both parties have already made up their mindThe effect of such debates doesnt immediately come mid debate. YOu are right on that. The effect comes way later if the person is thinking about it, doing research or anything else. It takes root at the debate but takes effect way later such as thinking about it again in the shower or at night or wherever. This leads to either oneself strenghtening your own point or it getting weaker which might eventually cause the collapse of whatever believeThat is, as long as the debate is civilOn the audience part I agree
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>>536693531U lost tranni
>>536694226I don't know what kind of debates you have, but I've been able to convince people before. Or rather, to get them to convince themselves (you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink).
>>536693531Counter-argument shall be different from whining and excuses. Otherwise your argument is not welcomed.
Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.
intellectuals are all retarded faggots whose arguments led to all of their countries being ruled by jews and slowly genocided via mass immigration because waycism is so unintelligent
>>536694226You're insane as shit; No, your smug anime girl avatar doesn't change it. Stop reading Marx.
>>536694226Karl Marx couldn't even take care of his own children, yet we are supposed to listen to him as if he's a god amongst men? Lmao. Just listen to yourself. You sound like a fucking asshole.
>>536693531>>536693950
>>536693531>A true intellectual welcomes counterarguments.a true intellectual has already considered all the counterarguments
>>536696046>wow guys, l-look at this schizophrenic retard. He's just like every jewish person, rite?No.
>>536693531It gets exhausting debating the same topic with new people over and over. Responding the same way, explaining the same shit, etc. Arguing with the ignorant or those who feign ignorance to ease their argument is entirely pointless. Jeets and kikes for instance understand where the criticism is coming from and why. They dont care because the benefits outweigh the weight on their conscious - because they are shameless and lack a soul.
>>536693531Not all counterarguments are legitimate.If you say niggers commit too much crime, and someone says, "White people commit crime too," that is not a legitimate counterargument because it treats white crime rates as equivalent to black crime rates, which they are not, and the person who says it knows they are are not. They are intentionally misrepresenting the situation, requiring you to point out that the rates are different, when they know they are, and so they never should have said what they said.In that case, the proper response is not to correct the assumption but to kill the person. If you want to participate in the conversation, be honest. If you can't do that, stay out of the conversation or be killed. The days of fucking around are over.
Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.Nothing but complete fucking retards on this site.
>>536694968Good one!!
>>536693531That's why Holocaust laws are retarded.
>>536693531>A true intellectual welcomes counterarguments.If a man is truly an intellectual he would know what his subject is about and have no need for arguments.
>>536696503>Sweden>yes
This is the bullshit that fucks politicians. A smart person will believe something until they are shown facts and arguments that prove them wrong and will change their mind. But changing your mind as a politician is seen as weak. So we have a load of politicians with views they got in their formative years who won't change their opinion in the modern world because they don't want to be seen as weak by thier base. It's weird as fuck.
>>536693531But the only "counterarguments" today are personal insults rather than insightful and constructive criticism.
Holy shit you're all fucking low IQ. To welcome counterarguments has fuckall to do with persuading anyone. It means you listen to arguments against your opinions. Fucking brainlets all of you. Go back to fapping.
>>536698589No, dumbass. An argument can be a book by a person who is dead. Like this lecture by Adorno.https://annas-archive.gl/md5/fd70ad3f14721f2a55b6fa6b75bb620fhttps://voca.ro/1o4JdLBQUpbBhttps://pastes.io/tM5TDeRsYou're all brainlets.
>>536694226A debate is a structural, formal contest, usually with an audience.Counterarguments are not exclusive to debates but are also part of discussions.A discussion is an interactive exchange of ideas, opinions, or information among two or more peopleThat your zoomer muttioid brain can only think of public debates and not talking to a friend about different ideas is very telling.Saw a jubliee debate on youtube, eh?
>>536693531That's one of those things everyone knows but nobody puts into practice. People are great at rationalizing irrational beliefs and behaviors. It's very easy to mistake an honest rebuttal for a bad faith attack.As nice as it may make you feel to spout these sorts of platitudes, have the theory of mind to consider all the times you felt justified in seemingly irrational reactions and realize that the same sort of rationalization is going on in the mind of everyone else who you've seen acting "irrationally."
>>536698929Nope, I study logic, most people here haven't studied a single fucking page of logic.
>>536699088And where does logic has taken you? Elon Musk became a trillionaire in 6 years.
>>536698929I did change my believes on certain topics over time because I had a lot of discussions with my friends who used to be politically opposite of me. Before that I fell down the alt right pipeline because I started browsing 4chan in 2009 and genuinely believed a lot of the talking points here that manifested over the early alt right movement between 2013-2017.But then I got gradually de-radicalised by constant contact with non-radical people and I got pulled out of this entire grifter/chud ecosystem.
>>536694391There's always been good journos mixed in with the muck. When they're gone, we lose a lot. Remember it was Julie Brown at the Miami Herald who broke the Epstein story. That's still legacy media, and it's going to be treated as an oversight.
>>536699088Whether they have studied formal logic or not is irrelevant. You constantly post these pseudo intellectual threads and recoil at any pushback, well-reasoned or no.You are a prime case study in what I was talking about. You lash out against opposition and then rationalize your refusal to argue in good faith with "you don't study logic; me smarter than you."Again. Have some self awareness.
René Girard, the greatest thinker of the 20th century, urged his colleagues and readers to subject his theories and hypotheses to rigorous scrutiny
>>536699575You're homosexual. Kys
Intellectuals are often simply midwits who lucked out in life.If someone argues in good faith and comes up with points you have ill considered before, this is true, but good faith arguments are rare. Most "intellectuals" fail to consider a foil to their own arguments as well and boil down things to a moral argument even if it doesn't apply or they apply it too liberally
>>536693531Only if they're genuine. An actual intellectual will shut down shill talking points with lightning speed
>>536699917Yes, another well-reasoned counterargument from a true intellectual powerhouse. I am astounded by your mastery of logic. It's everything I have come to expect from you.
>>536693531>but NEVER EVER EVER contradict my pet issues
>>536700184Fuck off fag, I don't want you in my threads. Go back to stroking your cock, that's all you know how to do.
>>536700482Who the hell do you want in "your thread?" You posted a thread with the premise that "a true intellectual welcomes counterarguments" but that's very clearly not what you want as demonstrated by your behavior. I already know the answer. I just want you to reflect on what's actually motivating you here and the sort of pathology that implies.
>>536700929Fuck off and kys emotional thinker.>nobody puts into practice>logic or not is irrelevantFuck off and study logic, woman. You think with emotions only. Fag.
>>536701125Every single response you have provided in this thread is devoid of logic. You get emotional and hurl insults at those who question you. Literally just go back and read the shit you've posted ITT. Not a logical argument to be found.>>logic or not is irrelevantI'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a genuine reading comprehension failure on your part. I didn't say logic was irrelevant. I said whether they studied formal logic was. What matters is there is an identifiable chain of logic they're applying in responding to you. Such a chain of logic is notably absent in your posts.
>>536701125I see nothing of your logic, you are a windbag.
>>536701403You don't know a fucking thing about logic. I posted a topic. Every single reply was irrelevant retarded shit that doesn't deserve my effort. And you're an emotional thinker. Fuck off and study logic. Fag. I see a coombrained retard posting a fucking cat image for attention with a completely fucking irrelevant post I'm just gonna tell them to fuck off because they're wasting my time. You're a woman or fag. Social justice warrior. You haven't studied a single fucking page of logic. You think with emotion. Fuck off.>>536702026you don't know a fucking thing about logic, none of the posts deserved my effort, fuck off fag
>>536694217Read some Will Durant bro history repeats your missing nothing by ignoring goyim news
>>536702469>Every single reply was irrelevant retarded shit that doesn't deserve my effortThe thing that seems to mainly have triggered you at the beginning is the conflation between "argument" and "debate." Which, given what you posted and the context under which it was posted, is a perfectly reasonable conflation to have made. This isn't a failure to understand logic. It's them applying common parlance when you intended formal academic jargon in the absence of necessary context.>I see a coombrained retard posting a fucking cat image for attention with a completely fucking irrelevant post I'm just gonna tell them to fuck off because they're wasting my time.I refer you to my opening post where I mentioned theory of mind. Your irrational spergout feels rational to you because you interpret the misunderstandings of others as an inability of these people to understand you. You don't feel heard and it makes you act emotionally. But it's a consequence of the ignorance of others, not a personal failing on your part.The problem is you can't apply that same grace to others. That guy who made the conflation that pissed you off didn't have the necessary context to understand your intentions. You never provided that context. He responded to the statement, as presented, under the impression you were speaking in common parlance as that's how most people speak.
>>536693971I am not a retard and I know everyone here is not.
>>536693531That isn't how it works with Donald Trump.No it is his way or the high way, also he doesn't care about educating you.
>>536693531you're not a true intellectual though, are you?
>>536701125>he says while lashing out like a womanLmaoUncultured imbecile
>>536693531Not that I am Donald Trump, but I would question whether or not true intellectuals actually do welcome counterarguments.There is multiple processes that work when conversing as language is intended to be dynamic even if your goal is as simple as attaining truth by brainstorming multiple ideas one would clearly be able to see that there is multiple methods people use to communicate just by using the same process.
>>536693531Counterargument, there's a time and place for everything, it's not at someone's wedding.
>>536705021yeah, that you couldn't figure out an example is funny.
>>536693531Since I already know the answer as I have already explored this area I can tell you with certainty that there is different types of people who use different processes to attain different goals.All could be classified as intelligent and all think and talk completely differently. There is a commonality where most people are reactionists.
>>536693531Most things which are discussed nowadays are social constructs therefore there are no rights or wrongs or arguments. It’s just who applies more power and gains control over the definition of the construct. Also Adorno was a collossal faggot.
>>536705120This is an example of psychopathic tampering in the social sphere.The changing of definitions to push a different idea for control of the population.An example of a bad faith actor.
>>536697407genaualles absichtmann koennte ja auf "dumme" gedanken kommen...
>intellectualJewish capitalists can only lose from debate and so they rely heavily on censorship. The concept of intellectualism is completely asymmetric to their existence to the extent they cannot even coexist with it.
>>536693950In every case. One your mind is closed, you have stopped thinking. This is the point at which prejudice takes over and discourse is a non productive waste of energy.
