>>536693826>The birth rate would increase if the cost of living went downNo shit, Sherlock.
>>536693826The birth rate would increase if whites weren't deracinated to the point of not caring whether their people live or die out.
>w-we just need more virtual debt collateral Ahahahahahahahahahaha Its time for Keynesian marxist banker scum and its polity stooges to die. Deleting their liabilities sustainably from the ledger has the same effect and is cheaper to achieve. It only takes a blunt object to kill a banker or bureaucrat
>>536693930The birth rate is also tanking in non-white countries, idiot.Anyway, costs of living are so high because of socialism and immigration. do away with both. Then abolish womens rights while you're at it. Fertility rate will recover. Easy ass pie.
>>536693826Nope. Birthrate will increase only if we nuke all cities above 100K inhabitants
>>536693976>Easy Not quite. To reverse the past 65 years of socio economic failures might take a century or two
>>536693826I don't care about 'the birth rate'. I care about 'the WHITE birth rate'. White people ought to rule, and all of you should be our slaves, with east asians getting to sleep in the house.
it's housing, it's fucking housing it always was! god damn we just wanna fuck!
>>536693826Wrong.Birthrates would increase if female education and employment was ended.
>>536693923>>536693826What country saw it's birthrate go from significantly below 2 to above 2 when the cost of living went down?None? Oh.
>>536693826Cool it with the antisemitism
birth rates would increase if jews stopped raping and eating children
>>536693826People are supposed to have children in their 20s. I am now in my 30s and dont want them anymore because I dont want to financially support a hag who only decided for me after she hit the wall.
>>536694054No society with women's rights is going to have a survivable birth rate, or even see it's birth rate stop going down.Not ever. Stop looking for an economic cheat code, it's never going to happen, you're not going to outsmart the fundamental nature of man.
>>536693826cost of living is an excuse. the tfr situation is cultural. israel has a higher cost of living than the united states.
>>536694130>20sTeens.
>>536694134B-but the participation rate and woymen contribution to tax cashflow and consume...You are absolutely right, but its not enough to remove foid rights, the architects and their opportunists have to die. No pragmatism with socialists and its opportunists
>>536694162Shoot yourself in the head, Muhammad.
>>536694162Girls maybe, boys certainly not. Either way I am done with the topic, I dont want to anymore. I am 32 years now and its better to stay single at this point than surrender my ressources to a woman who simply realized only by hitting the wall that her option is to settle down now that her financial windfall didnt happen.
>>536694232You unfathomable nigger, your ancestors, and the ancestors of all men, exalted happy, healthy teen mothers for half a million years up until less than a single lifetime ago.Sorry, 99.999999% of the white men in history werent wrong just because antinatalists decided it'd be really funny if we tried to stop people from having kids at ages where they used to lead formations of troops into battle.
>>536693826No it wouldn't. More women are shacking up with men because of how hard it's getting just to get by. Give them easier lives and they'll just slut it up more. What we really need is complete economic collapse. The bitches will be forced to shack up or they won't survive.
>>536694067Because cost of living never goes down.>>536694134Commies EE countries had women rights and their population exploded, they went to shit after USSR collapse.
>>536693826The birth rate would increase if you simply removed Jewish microplastics from our everyday life, you act like poor people stopped fucking, they just can't with forever chemicals in their bodies. The body heals once all sources of microplastics are removed. That's why Jews only live in their own communities in the US.
>>536694151Israel subsidizes a large portion of its population, it's also a socialist country.Not to be compared to the US.
>>536694232in midcentury america, couples got married and started families right after graduating hs.as i recall, both national tfr as well as teen pregnancy rates peaked in the late 1950s due to this very phenomenon, the latter concentrated in the 18-19 window.
>>536693826Final Fantasy 6 is one of the best games of all time.
>>536693826>The birth rate would increase ifHost nation purge Jews together with immigrants to Israel
>>536694412Removing the jewish parastic financial system would solve everything, it would fix the house affordability issue.
>>536694414america subsidizes a large portion of its population as well, and despite the welfare queen stereotype, even that socioeconomic demographic isn't getting knocked up anymore
>>536694414Israel takes hundreds of billions of US dollars, Israel doesn't subsidize the cost, America does. If we had a true America First movement we would eradicate Jewish control entirely and become a secularist populist state capable of sustaining our land.
>>536694380>Commies EE countries had women rights and their population exploded, they went to shit after USSR collapse.They didn't have rights at all comrade.
>>536693976>socialismHow? Everything is capitalist and jewish?
the nazis made the prisoners build the infrastructure to their own extermination.
>>536694418>P-please "we" need more debt collateral, fuck it when it bleeds and just create more debt collateral >Our ponzi cannot dieIt dies today pedophile
>>536693826No it wouldn't. People would just find other excuses. If you're worried about birth rates in current years you're only shilling for the green line and in that case fuck you faggot. Literally nothing will ever change until the line is made a circle.
>>536694498Women largely only want children from early 30s to 50 once they realize their shot at a better life where they dont need a man has failed. I dont want to be that guy they can settle for. Had several women already lowkey shill that to me but I rejected them. When I explained what I said here they just got angry and irrational> what does it matter where I was 10 years ago I am here right nowWell, and I am not good day miss
>>536694530>Keynesian marxism is "capitalism">The central planning committee distributing capital risks and costs into the future is capitalism comrades Ahahahahahahahahahaha
>>536694541You really want to marry a run through Austrian woman?
>>536694412Heavily invest in poisoning jewish communities. Arsenic, micro plastics, feces........I wouldn't do that but if someone did and it holocausted jews, I wouldn't be upset about it
>>536693826The only thing known to raise fertility rates is removal of women's rights and women from the workplace. Women want men of a higher status so if both are of the same status, they'll aim for the smaller pool of higher status men. Also if they work, the labour pool is doubled and income is effectively halved, while also having no time for raising kids.
>>536694530>How? Everything is capitalist You think the government is LESS involved in business than fifty years ago? or a hundred? Or two hundred? You think the United States is less regulated today than in 1900? That what we're seeing is the result of a free, uninterfered with market?There are only two directions Government MORE involved in voluntary exchanges between citizens ----- Government LESS involved in voluntary exchanges between citizens
>>536694499>no more wars>no more foreign aid>release all of the Epstein FilesAnd all the talking heads in the media lose their minds.
>>536694594What? Hell no, I couldn't care less if the birth rate crashes below 0.2 per uterus. In fact I would welcome it as it removes the underlying collateral of the ponzi players
>>536694661Good, I was already worried. The only way I would agree to have children with a hag would be outside of marriage but they dont want that lol
Kind of I would say culture it more important
>>536693976the biggest issue is women's rights and all the propaganda surrounding what women should do an their duties to society. Mans duty? Fight and die in war. Womens duty? Gone or nonexistent now, just flee the country. Doesn't matter if you have at least two kids (to keep population, society, economy, etc stable) How do u even begin combatting this issue when your up against corporations whos interest it is to keep women in the workforce as much as possible? And the government whos interest is high earning tax payers and good jobs statistics?
>>536694704My take is a two step. First crash the ponzi and kill the monkeys that consider themselves in charge, then kill every foid over 25
>>536694541>>536694661The jews have been behind every antinatalist propaganda campaign, government measure, or group action that has ever been directed at whites for at least 400 years. They DO NOT want more of us.
>>536694613>>536694211>>536694134Of course, suggesting this solution is akin to social suicide, so the solution will never be implemented. Society will simply collapse, a lot of people will die, and we'll go back to having local warlords with harems like the congo or somalia. But at least we didn't say feminism bad.
>>536693826This. Plus all men and women start absorbing sunlight into their testicles
>>536694753The 19th century called, socialist, it wants its outdated scapegoat back.The polity, bureaucracy, and frankly every homo sapien over 50 independent of ethnicity is a better scapegoat
>>536694613Also a lot of white men have quit in disgust under a system that castigates their success as well as the sexual revolution and social media turning young women into whores. >how did you meet your wife?>when she was half-naked at a bar, I'm the twentieth man she's slept withYeah right.
>>536694753to be fair the anglos were pushing it in the 19th-20th century, to keep certain demographics in check. the jews just continue to carry the torch.
>>536693826Thailand, Ukraine, Belarus, Bangladesh, India, Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia would like a word with youPoverty and cost of living have nothing to do with it. It’s women’s rights and hypergamy. Every country is seeing a collapse including African countries which will be below replacement in less than 10 years. Afghanistan will literally be the only country making babies in 20 yearsp
>>536694773>Society will simply collapse, a lot of people will die, and we'll go back to having local warlords with harems like the congo or somalia. But at least we didn't say feminism bad.Cheer up. Iron Age White tribal feudalism is infinitely superior to the highest cultural achievements of browns.The browns will mostly just starve. They can't fight for shit, they can't farm for shit, they can't stop killing each other even when they have a common enemy.
>>536693826It always boils down to>We need TKDOtherwise we're eventually gonna see something like Edge of Tomorrow, where the so called "Elite" fucks off to space and we can live on earth in the jungle
>>536694864>You're not allowed to ethnically identify your enemiesWhy are you talking like a teenage girl from a whole generation ago, did you learn English from old Teen TV shows?
>>536694888Wait till you hear about who financed the English civil war anon
>>536693826You still can't breed even if the cost of living went down
>>536693930Nah it's literally living costs and nothing else. Most people want kids but can't afford them.Source: Studies and surveys always have this result.
>>536695085just wait until you learn about the ethnic admixture of the puritans and their roundhead forebears
>>536695015>eliteCommunist dog whistle.
>>536694162I concur
>>536695085>>536695171This is nothing new. Protestant sects always had huge jewish influx, like the Huguenots for example.
>>536695144>Source: Studies and surveys always have this result.How can there be studies and surveys on this when there has not been one successful case of reversing this condition?If women have rights, your birth rate just goes down forever until women don't have rights anymore, that's it, it's that simple.
>>536695061Who says something about allowed. The core issue is that you are a minority trying to convince somebody you never going to physically interact with it to adopt your outdated scapegoat and leave huwhite traitors alone, when that somebody long decided that the scapegoat to kill is not limited by ethnicity but by function and age
thats not true though. birth rates increase with poverty rates. the birth rate is low because the cost of living:income ration is too favourable. its literally the opposite of what you claim. we need things to get worse to increase the birth rate
>>536694162No. 20s ist the safest and best time.In regions without modern medicine, teen pregnancies are the leading cause of death for young women. Only we could theoretically get away with it, but it's not natural.
>>536694492Truth nvke
>>536693826cost of living would go down if you weren't all ROI chasing rent seeking faggots
>>536695264>No. 20s ist the safest and best time.16, statistically.>In regions without modern medicine, teen pregnancies are the leading cause of death for young women.Adjust by race.
>>536693826Nigeria must be cheap
>>536695237>Ask people why they don't have kids>They answer "because it's too expensive."Simple as.Abolishing women's rights will surely help because you'll only have 50% of the workforce meaning lower costs of living, but the main problem really seems to be money.
>>536695249>outdated scapegoatSorry your continued defense of jews has identified you as a jew or jew adjacent yourself, nothing you say from here on is even going to be considered.
>>536695261>W-we need to expropriate the kulaks to save our socialist ponzi comrade Luckily your kind is going to die one or another way before the 2030s
>>536693826Okay, but it will only go down for families. So stop trying to push this, because all us single guys will become homeless.
>>536695289>Adjust by race.Name a white country without first world medicine.In b4 USA
>>536695305>What good is actual proof when we have reams of people's self reported FEELINGS!!!hahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>536695198Thats why it's in quotes>>536695237Here's the studyStudy it accordingly
>>536694613This guy gets it. Many women prefer to stay home btw. But the economy in the xix century have become too rotten for single income household
>>536695310I don't defend them. Jews over 50 and in public employed, polity or finance positions are naturally included, but so are huwhites in that age and positions
>>536695261>birth rates increase with poverty ratesThey don't. This was a 20th century anomaly that has fixed itself by now, look it up. Nowadays the rich have more kids than the poor, just as throughout recorded history.
>>536695346So you're admitting there's NO information to suggest what you're saying is true for non piss drinkers and shit eaters (all nonwhites on the planet), at all.
>>536695237>>536695359
>>536695359Where's the part of the study that says increasing housing caused a cratering birth rate to shoot back up above 2?Yknow, the only thing that could possibly be of relevance?
>>536695355>Asked about feelings>Answers with statisticsThirdie spotted, post your brown hand so we can all laugh
>>536694067>>536694947My thing is ensuring a base level of quality of life for the hellspawn instead of just pumping them out like rabbits with no regard to whether they live a cucked life without the bare necessities. Yes, we can theoretically breed like animal like tribal niggers, but who the fuck wants to do that besides mudhut villagers? I concede that it is a cultural issue, but for me, it is also an economic one. Babies aren't self sustaining. They are hungry expensive little shits and that's just the reality of it.
Yes, but anon people hate economics and refuse to understand it.
>>536695222>the Huguenotsfuck
>>536695261> t. someone who doesn't understand cause and effectHigh poverty rates are highly correlated with high rates of child labor, like in villages where children look after animals or in mining areas where children play minecraft IRL.Poverty doesn't boost birth rates. It's the living conditions that motivate you having children also happen to keep you poor.The birth rate situation looks like this:> poverty where you use child labor and want more child-peons> semi-poverty where you are a wagie and kids are a dead weight> (gap of non-existent real middle class)> prosperity where having kids is funMaking people truly rich is a way to make them more confident in their and their children's future.
>>536695421Simple. Pre WW2 and post WW2. Compare the birth rates. Compare wealth.Why do you think boomers were a thing after WW2/great depression? Because shit was affordable again and there was enough space.Calhoun also plays into this and maybe this is what you're meaning. Overpopulation
>>536695446>who the fuck wants to do thatPonzi playing socialists that have built a socio-economic system around the fallacy that homo sapien are an infinite exponentially growing resource that can be financialized and collaterized
>>536694498>america subsidizes a large portion of its population as wellAmerica doesn't subsidize breeding factories.Amish get no gibs unlike haredi leeches.
>>536695446R-selection vs K-selection. Look it up
>>536693826Men should get paid to have children, No money shall be given to women to have children.
>>536695300>Nigeria must be cheapIt must also have a high infant mortality rate.
>>536693976>>536693976>The birth rate is also tanking in non-white countries, idiot.Because they are being incorporated into the judeo American financial system.
>>536695444>>536695416>"why arent people having children">Women's rights decreases the birth rate every generation, forever.>"NOOO IT MUST BE THE HOUSING!!!">Can you name a single time that making housing easier to acquire flipped a birthrate like modern countries are having back above 2?>"PEOPLE SAID THEY'D HAVE KIDS IF THEY HAD A HOUSE!!!">people said is not evidence, can you show me it actually happening?>"LOOK HOUSING IS EXPENSIVE">Can you show me reducing the expense of housing raising a birth collapse back above 2?>"LOOK HOUSING IS SUPER EXPENSIVE COMPARED TO WAGE HOURS!!!!"Can you show me a time making housing cheaper solved a post feminist birth collapse and raised us back above 2?
>>536695517>CalhounEvery time this gets posted it's worth reminding: this is an inbreeding experiment.They didn't bother to source unrelated mice. They began with sibling mice. Whatever happens next is a horror where you have a choice between banging your sister, your mother, your aunt, or your daughter, and nobody even sings Sweet Home Alabama to make it more palatable."Utopia", sure.
>>536695643>>536695517
>>536695621the jamahiriya understood that the incentive has to be for people to marry and start a family within a household they own. you can't just pay individuals - men or women - to have kids.
>>536695543>Ponzi playing socialists that have built a socio-economic system around the fallacy that homo sapien are an infinite exponentially growing resource that can be financialized and collaterizedThis. I feel as if low fertility would be a good thing if rich pedophiles running things didn't use that fact as an argument for importing the entire turdworld to prop up their financial schemes destined to crash and burn.
>>536695446Poor whites are better than the richest blacks based on every measurable statistic. At this point we just need as many white bloodlines around as possible. There's about to be a worldwide die off, it's not going to matter if the bloodlines come from hillbillies, it's just more raw material to build the next civilization on.
>>536695768Its neither a good nor a bad thing, it just is. The ponzi players and those dependent on pay-as-you-go ponzis (the 50+ that paid 30 years into bankrupt ponzis) are the only ones that need the ever increasing amount of suckers and cooperators, because if it stops, their life is getting cut short
>>536693826Sure, but not enough to change anything. Even rich people with no money trouble have less than three kids on average. The only category that prints kids is the uber-rich.You need to also prohibit women from most careers and higher education and prohibit birth control too to have sustainable demographics. Think of it, would the average girl choose to spend get life taking care of kids when she can choose to party, have disposable income, feel important in society, own property, etc? The kid-free lifestyle is just much better on the surface than spending your days cleaning house and looking after kids. In the end most women tend to end up wanting to stay home and relax, but by then it's too late if they're allowed to choose a different life in youth
The birth rates would increase IF women weren't such huge obnoxious whores. Where I am ,cost of living is nothing compared to the salary I'm making. In fact, this makes it even less encouraging to marry because I have no economical incentive.When the factor of economical incentive is gone, all that remains is pure lust and personal attraction. And most women are good for nothing more than dumping cum in and moving on.
>>536693826the main issue is women's rights, women working drives down wages while increasing demand
>>536695517>Simple. Pre WW2 and post WW2. Compare the birth rates. Compare wealth.PreWW2 the birth rate was not below 2But it's funny you bring those people up:You mean populations that were raised in vastly less women's rights, and birth rates that instantly collapsed anyway?That's your solution, have a tiny explosion of above replacement births that immediately annihilates global civilization due to not removing the rot?
>>536694729The issue is the women themselves coupled with what you said. Women have no moral or practical reason to pursue kids. Families and children used to be sacred things. People thought it was obvious. The Italian constitution starts with: >"Italy is a Republic based on labor"Labor, not families. Secular constitutions lead to this outcome, or rather the founding mentality of secular nations leads to this conclusion. The next generation of founding constitutions will enshrine the moral obligation of children and family.
>>536693826As easily solved forever through impersonal engineering and readily available infrastructure.Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.
>>536695964>Think of it, would the average girl choose to spend get life taking care of kids when she can choose to party, have disposable income, feel important in society, own property, etc? The kid-free lifestyle is just much better on the surface than spending your days cleaning house and looking after kids. In the end most women tend to end up wanting to stay home and relax, but by then it's too late if they're allowed to choose a different life in youthTrue, but can't we say the same for men? For example volcels? Has modern life destroyed our desire to procreate, relegating sex to a recreational activity and nothing more?
>>536696185It absolutely has. What's the incentive to having kids when you can already have sex with no bagage and you can afford all the shit from one person's salary? I see no point.
>>536693976theres less whites now so less tallies, simple as
>>536696166>Specifically, by putting women into barns, where they will be bred and milked to the full extent of efficiency granted by human Zootechnics, and then unceremoniously disposed of with a pneumatic needle when their bodies are spent and unproductive.You mean what whimen and modernity do to us already?
>>536693930You’re an idiot.
>>536696072Wat?
>>536693976>are so high because of socialism and immigration.LOL!Shlomo, stop!There is barely ANY socialism left!
>>536695643>Can you show me a time making housing cheaper solved a post feminist birth collapse and raised us back above 2?Your entire argument is based on a false premise, that female emancipation causes low birth rates.EE population increased massively after letting women into the workforce during communism.There is not a single first world country that had a drop in housing prices for any meaningful amount of times so we can't tell.I still think housing prices should drop, just to fuck with you kikes!
>>536696555What? The entire ponziconomy hangs only on socialism. The socialization of capital risks and costs through a central planning committee into the future, what else do you think "public financing" is? Capitalism. Stupid socialist
>>536696225>It absolutely has. What's the incentive to having kids when you can already have sex with no bagage and you can afford all the shit from one person's salary? I see no point.That's the fucked up thing about it. No rational person would willingly decrease their quality of life in order to take care of an annoying spawn of satan for several years. This reminds me of those scifi movies in which the people and or aliens are all lab vat babies taken care of by their government.
>>536694380>womans rights>commiesWhy are you lying? Initially abortions and no fault divorce were a thing until the birth rate cratered and Stalin realised that women when given rights only care about killing their children. Those abortion rights were subsequently removed. The Soviet population never boomed, and barely started recovering in the 60-70's. Show flag please.
>>536694414>take billions from outside sources >socialistChecks out. What happens when the host stops payments?Show flag please.
>>536694318>I am 32 years now and its better to stay single at this pointSorry bro, you can't "stay single" when you've never touched a woman
>>536696671> NAW THAT'S NOT REAL CAPITALISMLOL!
>>536696854>Why are you lying? Initially abortions and no fault divorce were a thing until the birth rate cratered and Stalin realised that women when given rights only care about killing their childrenWomen were allowed to join the workforce and give wages just like men, dumbass.The abortion shit is a seperate issue.Anyhow, communist countries experienced a massive population growth.Their TFR dropped the second they joined the American financial system.Hell, you can see an instant drop in birthrates right after the 2008 financial crisis.
>>536693976Meanwhile, North Korea is a bastion of traditional family values, strong leadership, little to no women's rights, no Western values at all, contraceptives and abortions are banned, and it's economically poorAnd yet its birthrate is still under replacement level, with nearly the same birthrate as the USCurious, isn't it?
Not really. People would just have more money to buy more products as no one has the time for an anthro.
>>536697107>And yet its birthrate is still under replacementNo, it isn't.It still has a higher TFR than South Korea, which pretty much crushes your entire argument.Fuck you, rent seeking leech!
>>536697107Also NK still has a higher TFR than SK.
True, I think a less psychotic constantly chaotic government would probably help to
>>5366971651.8 is under 2.1, aka the replacement birth rateBy /pol/'s logic, North Korea should be Africa-tier and yet it is not.
>>536693826The cost of living would go down if all thirdies were deported.
>>536693826ya think?
>>536697107Also, the below replacement figure comes from a UN estimate not a real best Korea stat.
>>536697065>joining military = womans rights not abortion>cuz I say so!KNice psyop you got goingShow flag please
>>536697235>1.8 is under 2.11- That's still higher than worst Korea.2- This stat comes from a UN estimate not North Korean stats, it is therefor a worthless cope from the dying West.Clearly the only solution is to end the jewish rent seeking system and bring housing prices down.
>>536697280Yeah, sure, that definitely explains why Kim Jong Un was begging people to have kids on NK television two years agohttps://youtu.be/-nolzvHl-UU
>>536697306The argumemt that abortion is part of women rights is an entirely femenist one.I don't buy into, avi, sorry!
>>536694067Just imitate Jews cost of living "scam/profit/never work" if you want to imitate Jewish replacement numbers (positive)
>>536697280>UN estimate Why do you think it has to be an estimate?Where are the figures that NK produces to show how well its doing?Show flag please
>>536697359He is just horrified by the dying West, so he proactively promote high TFR, seethe!Holy shit!The cope is fucking real!The West is dying so you have to project your failing, Judaised civilisation onto others!LOL!
>>536697467Why would Kim Jong Un give a singular shit about the western pig dogs?
>>536697452>Why do you think it has to be an estimate?Because that's what the UN says, dipshit.> Where are the figures that NK produces to show how well its doing?They aren't part of globohomo, they don't owe anyone shit, their business is THEIR business, they BTFO'd the mutts, it's why they are socially healthy and free and even by your cope stats have higher TFR than worst Korea.
>>536697368>Im feminist>but not that kind!Uh huhIs it moral to tell a lie to suit an end?
>>536697494Because mutts seek to destroy his nation, like they did with South Korea (won't exist in a few generations).Another bit of evidence, is that once a thirdie shithole joins the American financial system and gets some "shock therapy", their TFR collapse instantly.Judeo American capitalism is a death cult, it must be resisted by all means.
>>536697539>cant answer the questionKShow flag please
>>536696997The term capitalism frankly doesn't exist. Define "capitalism" without having to use religious marxist terminology. You can't. Keynesian marxism is socialism, as soon as a central planning committee has any leverage over socialization of capital risks and costs its just socialism.Just because YOU are not the beneficiary of the scam, but a sucker doesn't make it less socialist
>>536697589> AS A REAL FEMENIST, I ASSERT THAT ABORTION IS A BASIC WAMEN RIGHT.> IF YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT ABORTION MAXXING, THAN YOUR WAMEN HAVE NO RIGHTS!I disagree.
>>536697621I answered both questions, l2 read, Gomez.
>>536697647Capitalism is when resources are distributed from the bottom to the tippy top.Socialism is when resources are re-distributed from the top to the bottom.Modern failing and dying Judaised Western economies fullfil that definition, they also fullfil the definition set by the academics.
>>536693826Only if you have a goldfish tiered memoryWhat was the childless excuse 10 years ago, 15, 20?
>>536693826You also need to take women's rights away
>>536694065Inly sane anon in the entire thread.
>>536693826>I'm willing to do ANYTHING, unless it's actually pushing the button.
>>536693826Cool it with the anti-semetism OP!
>>536697780>Distribution That requires central planning committees, no matter the direction poorfag. Thanks for confirming my thesis
>>536697939Let's just apply the Romanian solution!It worked.
How much do you guys figure it costs to put your penis into a woman's vagina?
>>536697653>straw manKShow flag please
>>536695144This. Young people need their own space and have enough wealth to socialize with people their age. People living with their parents and people living like sardines inside some apartment won't date as much. Too much stress kills libido too.Those in denial are landlords or evil boomers.
>>536697692>conflate=answerKShow flag pleas
>>536697845That's where the anti baby/feminism started. But still people had kids
>>536697953>Cool it with the anti-semetism OP!This.
I won't breed, sorry bros
>>536698058>How much do you guys figure it costs to put your penis into a woman's vagina?Fren, you lose your izzat if you pay for it.
>>536695643It IS the housing. A lot of women are seeing how working sucks BUT they can't quit because they don't want to fucking go back with their parents. If young people had their own house a lot of women would volunteer to quit and be a stay home wife Seriously landlord, you are old as fuck, if money is not important then why do you even need all that money then? You probably paid your house half a century ago
>>536697780>cabidalism is not gommunismYeah we get itShow flag please
>>536695696If that was the case, he would have mentioned remarkable spikes in organismic anomalies.They did not die off due to having hot and steamy gangbangs with their 7 sisters.
>>536694130What if you didn't know each other in your 20s
>>536695696>I would have run the experiment perfectlyThe experiment destroyed the socialization models developed by the liberal/progressive/post modernist idealists so much so that they just started throwing word salad at it rather than face the consequences of the experiment. Just like you did here. Is it good to lie to achieve a desired outcome?Show flag please
>>536694001>Nope. Birthrate will increase only if we nuke all cities above 100K inhabitantsMathematically correct, but will not increase the total number of births.
>>536698484>more births per population size some how does not mean higher birthrateIf you reduce the population by those metropolitan areas, how does the resulting higher birth rate for than new population number not equate to a higher birth rate?
>>536694232There is nothing wrong with knocking up a 14 year old. If you disagree you got the like mind virus.
>>536696919I am not a virgin. Precisely of this I know that its not worth it, guy like you put women on such a pedastal its hilarious. Never in my life have I seen a man that is or has ever been desired by women try to dig at other men like this, its always the mid guys or lower in their 30s who long to be paypigs for failed women. The difference between me and you is that I am saying no to the rotten offer while you happily oblidge and then think this makes you some selected male lol.>>536698313Its your choice, I am not telling you or anyone how to live. All I am saying that I am done with dating and rather stay single than be a paypig for some wall-e. It's your life mate, I dont make prescriptions. Would I do it? No. But you have to make up your own mind, dont do what other men want you to do. Wouldn't shame you for it either, there are people who cannot live alone. But look at me, I have achieved some measure of success now, I manage to make 6 figures in this pisshole which probably in terms of rarity is like making 250k in the US. I clean, make my own food, repair my own shit, own my own place, have some friends. I made my life. What do I have from a woman past her prime? I can go to young hookers any day of the week. Why would I let some woman benefit of that who now where she doesn't have as many options anymore arrived at the conclusion that this is a favorable trade for her after being non-committal to men when she had more leverage? In my eyes for guys like me that is cucked and my self-respects forbids me to do it. But that must not be your choice, you're a free man. If having children is that important for you shouldnt be living like me. I just think that men shaming other men no matter how they decide is bottom of the barrel loser behavior. Guys who do it in most cases married shitty women but they hold women in such high esteem that they see being picked by a post-wall woman equally to being knighted. If that was me I would just shut up
>>536698870Most guys will not find younger women, it doesnt happen as often as redpill guys claim it to be. The vast majority of women prefer men their age because modern women dont want to make compromises for average men. My income is quite high but how would I even signal that without being a paypig which I am for women my age anyway if I accepted them. I dont think women really dislike older men in general its just that women want it all which is nearly impossible and by the time they realize they cannot have it I am not interested in them anymore anyway.
Contrary to what bluepillers say though women who arent married by 30 something will most likely never make it because the share of men willing to put up with them and resourceful enough to be chosen by them goes down by the year, ironically by their own work as they demotivate us, use DEI to take our opportunity and make our countries less economically successful at the voting booth. So yeah, if you're a woman and like 30 something its probably over for you unless you drop most of your standards which realistically increasingly you wont. But neither will I. And women cannot go abroad either because the men are even poorer, there is more manletism among them and less status.
>>536693826No, the birth rate would go up if you banned birth control pills.
>>536698065I have an own apartment since I am early 20s. Relationships never led anywhere, riddle me this you genius. Women dont want to settle before they hit the wall.
>>536693826Birth rate would increase if Tifa was my wife yes. No Tifa for me, no society for you, simple as.
Kind of. Young people being able to afford enough housing for a child or two would be great but our government is giving all that property to immigrants on a priority basis, and foreign investors are pushing private properties rental prices up and rights are weird. Older women in professionals careers having ticking baby clocks but aren't willing to give up their lifestyles because they want to be #bossbabesTough one to solve and there are hundreds of variables, the biggest one being purple haired whales on social media psyoping women on social media.
>>536699332It wouldnt, women would simply quit sex then.>>536699376I would prefer having an attractive young woman but I dont have that so I go to prostitutes a lot. It is better than going out with a woman my age. Society will not survive this I am sure but since I dont have children myself why would I care about that? The boomers complain about guys like me but they offered me the worse women ever and then are surprised there are increasingly many guys who just say no. So now they are stuck with their loser daughters living with them till they inherit the house. No niggerball memorablia or model train boomercave room for you boomie, sorry. Actions have consequences as boomers themselves like to point out. Then they do the> But you will die alone boomer narrative Yet in reality everyone dies alone unless you are part of some sect
>>536699366They will once they see the younger competition looking for men, which are already doing kek
>>536699597>women would quit sex if they didn’t have birth control pills that have only existed since the 1970sWow yeah if you think about it that way
>>536699603Every single woman who approached me was in her 30s. If I wanted to settle for them I would have countless options. Pretty much all women in my generation are unmarried now. But I dont want to for reasons specified earlier. Dont know where to even meet younger women, I believe this thing is largely a meme, most couples seem to be within 5 years simply because women dont want to make compromises for men. But increasingly many of us also dont want to be settled for and they have no replacement for us so its a stalement. And dont come with the IVF thing, most women dont want to raise children alone. Its something famous people who can afford housekeepers and multiple babysitters do, not Becky who works at HR at some globohomo corp. She does it in the hope the right chad will arrive and these companies are cashing in on that fomo so she can yolo>>536699719Women already have way less sex because they are so picky and women who want to settle for you in your 30s are especially stingy with sex since they now want to act as if they are virgins> Oh noes I am most certainly not of lose sexual moralsIf Brad Pitt came along they would be blowing him in 5 minutes stfu
>>536693826Government literally pays you to have kids retard
>>536693826the cost of living would go down if you would stop electing communists (or "state capitalists" or whatever commies disguise themselves as these days)
I have a couple friends / people I know who have younger wives, one guy is married to Colombian who is like 20+ years younger than he is. He is a tall former chad though, another is married with a Vietnamese who must also be around that much younger. Oh and another one who has an Ukrainian wife, also around that much. It seems to not be as automatic as redpillers make it to be and its mostly non-white women if you're into that. Dont think I am. Honestly, I am mainly bitter because it didnt work when I wanted and part of me would probably sabotage the relationship now even if something attractive came up simply out of bitterness.
>>536699951The money is only a lot if you are from a 3rd world shithole. For me kids for sure mean a financial loss as the level of life quality women would expect me to provide them with would certainly outweigh our Kindergeld by many multiples. But again, its not a monetary issue for me, see my other posts.
>>536699597Very well said brother, I couldn't agree more :)
What is fun is if you reject them though, it is really crazy how they always write this uppity shit online but if you tell them to their face that you rather go to a hooker and afterwards play video games they completely die inside. German women are not accustomed to being rejected at all. I wonder if one ever wrote something about me online lol>>536700339I am genuinely unhappy about it though, not enough to settle for them at their terms though. That will never happen. Ever. It also wont help anything anyway. Right-wingers and conservatives like the Walsh guy think that but it wont because if I kneel to women that just shows that they will be saved anyway. So lets say if I settle for a 31 year old busted whore at soon 33 all I am effectively stating is that a bail out is certain. Why shouldnt the next generation wait to 37? After all 31 is still safe, right? It is a race to the bottom. East Asian women age better than our women and look, they wait even longer. So if the perception of the wall increases women will be incentivized to wait it out even longer until eventually the baseline for it will be infertility which in case of Japan and if I recall correctly Ireland is already the case there
>>536694773if i don't reproduce i don't care about statusstatus is only useful in procuring means for the babbies
>>536700759Fair, why would one care about a society you have no investment into. Part of why I always mistrusted Merkel that childless hag
>>536694067Israel.
>>536694067More than country, race. Though yeah you have Africa and israel growing but that's because they are on welfare and don't work.The ones having kids is because they get nanny'd by our taxes, so we have mohammeds here who never worked a SINGLE day getting a free house and 2,500 euros monthly.
>>536693826Why do you think they raise the cost of living and give shitskins a free ride?
people cant even afford to feed themselves, nevermind raise kids.
>>536693826birth rates would go up if women stopped acting like immature whores. honest talk. remove the ability for women to post thirst traps. birth rates go up. otherwise a lot of women in the current age take part in amateur pornography and exploiting themselves and delaying their lives when they should just be having kids and getting married.women were always stupid which is why they had to be "given rights" lol but in the current age the amount of them who lack any form of self awareness is just nuts like i would say as just a normal down to earth dude who lives in NYC, the majority of women i come in contact with on a daily basis are pretty stupid and lack ability to self reflect
>>536703962That's great but your woman still needs to work because the landlord requires a lot of money
>>536693826and the cost of living would go down if we stopped importing millions of people.a decrease in the pool of candidates brings up wages, this is why a man was able to support a family of 6 on his Sear’s salary with regular vacations in the 1950s.The answer has always been mass deportations and halting immigration. Immigration now is bad for everyone but businesses. Fuck businesses. They did fine before cheap labor.
>>536693826No, it wouldnt. The reason of low birth rates in developed countries comes from people enjoying themselves too much, they traded family for entertainment.
>>536693826I wish I could breed with an Aryan Stacey.
>>536693826no. the cost of living was down 10 years ago. the birth rate will ONLY go up when the divorce judges are slaughtered
>>536694036>To reverse the past 65 years of socio economic failures might take a century or twoitll take a two weeks, just stop enforcing murder laws if the murdered is the divorce judge, the way the 13th amendment doesnt apply when the slavery is mockingly named child support payments for a child youre prohibited from supporting directly
>>536704141They live in entertainment because socializing is unironically too expensive now
as long as women earn more than men the kids won't be procreated
>>536693826The birth rate would increase if contraceptives were banned.This would be so much easier to realize than bringing the cost of living down. Just make a law. Immediate effect.
>>536693826It’s not stoping blacks jeets or moslems…..You sound jewish
>>536705070You mean the ones who get welfare/cheap house?
>>536694773by the logic of hyperhoeflation, the last fertile white woman will be declared empress of the solar system, and will have one night long marriages with men after which she will recieve alimony from the mans descendants for all time
>>536693826i think feminism is a bigger culprit. modern women are so unattractive and untrustworthy it’s unreal. normal guys are still considered rapists until proven cucks.
>>536694130you can still marry a virgin teenager. stay positive.
>>536694982oh god please let my cryptocurrency take off at the same time feminism is outlawed and polygamy comes back into fashion.
>>536701583Yeah, the best way to increase the births is to reduce the reliance on modern wageslavery.
I inherited a mountain cabin in basically peak Evropa land (region is literally called Switzerland of America) and need some help with some of the upkeep so was thinking I'd offer a temporary rental for a few at discounted rate in exchange for helping me work the land: a foot in the door to a new community to transition to longer term accomodations. I'm also a bit of a sperg with weird opinions so need to filter for other semi weirdos. Casting a line in case there's anyone this might resonate with.
>>536705820Not very realistic man. I am also not demanding a virgin, I am not one myself, simply not a woman that is settling. And women in their 30s all settle, its disgusting but look up the stats, most men accept this.
>>536706825Stunning view
>>536698870That is true. That is their primary role.After they don't want anymore or can't they will get a new role such as cleaners, cooks, babysitters, nurses etc. Once women have taken the 2nd role they can't do the primary role as they are supposed to anymore. Somehow jews convinced them do it the opposite way.
>>536707244Once you've broken free, you'd die before going back. I'm still looking for my way to productively reinigrate on my own terms.
>>536694380No. Even my country with the decree was a flash in the pan for a few years until people developed unofficial means to circumvent the decree.Laws will have to be explicitly punishing for anyone who favours a woman without children. The same methods that gave them the current results can be aplied in reverse. Instead of financing and grants, fines and punitive actions.This will be done either officially or unofficially when the economy will crash. And it will crash. Line will go down. And we are going to be a sacrifice generation, that will either just endure or manage to catch the tail end of the shit show when the can can not be kicked down the road, and start on some solutions.>>536694418Yep the only thing that will get it back up is going to be teen pregnancy.For that to happen you have to accept a massive economic crash. >>536695446Children can be raised on the cheap even in high cost society but for that you need a community and accept that you will not buy most of the things for them but take them as donations from other kids who grew out of them. Be it their older siblings or neighbours kid. And then doing the same when they have outgrown them, paying only to supplement and replace what gets used into dust.But yeah, continual lack of authority over your own family means there is little point in having one. Without something like Pater Familias laws there is no point in bothering.
>>536696379>>536696166What is good for the goose is good for the gander.Turnabout is fair play.Modern problems require modern solutions...
