>This 21st sanction package will definitely cripple Russia this time! What delulu world are Euro bureaucrats living in?
>>536713671If it doesn't do anything, why worry about it?
Every day Zelensky is still breathing and Kyiv is not under Russian control is a fresh humiliation for the broken, collapsed empire that was an existential threat to the United States a mere 50 years ago
Sanctions definitely work and it's why Russniggers seethe about them and demand they be dropped in any peace negotiations, while also insisting that they only make Russia stronger. But if they do that, why would Russia ever want them dropped?
>>536713671Russia is already on its knees. I'll give Putin a year tops.
If it's meaningless then why are you shitting your pants in fear and begging for sanctions to stop?
>>536713671>21stKek, I wonder at what number they'll start to notice something's wrong
>>536713671Obligatory
>>536713671they calculated it would take like 1-2 years to for russian economy to collapse so why would they stop just before the finish line?that would be the most retarded thing to do
>>536713671Europe is trying to peacefully convince Russia that it's better to simply leave Ukraine. One of the ideas is to take gradual measures that make each passing day worse than the previous for Russia, and better than the next day.It's a very different approach to threatening with nukes for the 21st time.
So what, are we just not supposed to point out the fact the last 20 sanctions didn’t do anything? I don’t understand this ukr_pics logic, saying the sanctions aren’t effective apparently means they ARE effective because...I acknowledged their existence? Sanctions have never worked on any country in history and that’s a fact, Iran has been under a billion sanctions for decades now and they haven’t done a fucking thing. North Korea is the most sanctioned country on earth and has been longer than most people have been alive, when’s their “imminent collapse”? What the fuck was even the logic here to begin with? Was Russia going to devolve into civil war because they can’t buy iPhones anymore? It makes no sense.
>>536713671They were picked for their idiocy, they're mouth pieces. Decisions are made higher up, elites are stalling hoping Trump fucks up or loses midterms
>>536715025kek so accurate
>>536713844>But if they do that, why would Russia ever want them dropped?Believe it or not, gesture of good will
>>536713671It isn't about crippling, it's about provocation. They need war.
>>536713671Based eupidors, 21st package bans russian war veterans from entering EU. Lots of faggots from political parties "joined"(on paper) the army for several months to get the papers and status of war veteran for political points and so they could brag about "fighting for the country"Imagine their butthurt.
You know, I've been thinking, why do we never hear about Russian soldiers raping Ukryenijeynan women?
>>536713762Fpbp
>>536716334>we actually WANT to have nothing to do with youthen please just fucking leave. leave europe, leave western imageboards, leave austria.
>>536716380We did back when the war first started but it turned out that obudsman Denisova made it all up, I think it was around the point she was claiming Russian soldiers shoved a candlestick inside a baby people realized she was just insane.
>>536716748I once had a heated argument with an MK ultra zombie that I know locally and I announced to him I'd pay him if he can show me proof of any rapes, needless to say he never did. Good way to end arguments, but only if you're very sure, they never put their money where their mouth is
>>536713671Hunt their offspring
>>536717018>Millions of men fight each other>Surely no rape happenedwhats the point in lying like that
every day the eu economy gets more and more shit meanwhile the ru foreign policy is controlled by slavshit butthurtbelters. Fucking kill the eu at this point before there's nothing left.
>>536717018What would you accept as proof of rape?
>>536713671it's just money laundering scheme, relax
>>536716380believe it or not, russians are actually giant simpoinds for women aside from few instances
>>536713762Oh, it sure does something. It cripples our own economies.
>>536717440Shut up Guiseppe
>>536713762Because is fucking killing european countries and only benefits USA?
>>536717440>>536717569>>536717657Look at all these "European" 1pbtid posters suddenly jumping on the thread to defend russia.
>>536717569finally dropped the freezing cope huh?
>>536717845engage them in schwitzrdütsch and watch hillarity ensue, works every time
>>536715812>So what, are we just not supposed to point out the fact the last 20 sanctions didn’t do anything?Because that's not true. Read up on the sanctions.
>>536717845fucking pajeet kys you're here to steal our money why would you care about the economy
>>536717617go back to romania slavshit
>>536717921schwitzdeutsch is the gibberish the speak in swiss speaking cantons, how does that related to russians behind vpns
>>536717845Okay mariverse nigger, I’ll give you a fucking (You). Explain to me how Europeans benefit from paying vastly more for gas and energy. The whole logic of sanctioning Russian energy was it was supposed to topple their government but were on year 4 of the “gas station masquerading as a country” being in the state of “imminent collapse”. It should be pretty obvious normal people don’t benefit from these sanctions unless you think the average person is so obsessed with Russia they actually like paying 2x or 3x as much for a tank.
>>536717921Is there a jeet version of the chink bugspray copypasta?
>>536718088swiss german speaking cantons*
>>536713762But what does it do?
>>536717993Oh so Russia collapsed under the weight of these sanctions?
>>536713671The best part is they'll still buy Russian oil, just with 300 jeet middlemen.
>>536718088VPNs, Diaspora and online translators are not able to hold even a fraction of a conversation in any dialect without glaring errors becoming very visible. It works every single time on German, Swiss and Austrian flags that are blatant ruskibots. Because you cant fake actually belonging. Same with questions about the culture or the region.
>>536718180Nigger, if tomorrow you lose your job and can't find another are you going to die the next day? No, you would still have some saved money to live off for several week or months, then you're gonna borrow some money from your nigger friends if you have any, but then at some point they'll stop helping your nigger ass, and then you're going to start selling your nigger possessions just to get something to eat. And yes, nigger, you won't be able to do this forever. Same as Russia.
>>536718334So what you’re saying is Russia is going to collapse in two more weeks? Interesting.
>>536713671>targeting banksWhy are they shooting their own guys?
>>536713762who’s even benefitting here
>>536718404I'm saying it's inevitable.
>>536718284I guess I can't relate because 99% of italian flag posters on /pol/ are illiterate terroni I honestly couldn't even understand irl, let alone online
>>536713671"what would you send to Moscow or why not?A sandwich bag, a sanctions package or a parcel bomb?""oh wait,two of them might 'go off' before arrival; send the sanctions package."
>>536717547>>536716380This, Russians are severally underraping
>>536718510They’ve been saying it’s inevitable for years now but guess what? Europe continues to buy Russian energy, only now at an extreme markup. There is no evidence Russia is collapsing, this argument works on a closed off country like North Korea but Russia has internet access so you can just read Russian news, blogs, forums, whatever and see that things are more or less fine. Of course if you only get your news from MAKSnafo or whatever retard /uhg/ is shilling then Russia is perpetually in a state of collapse…but also they need more sanctions because they’ll invade all of Europe but they’re also weak and losing but Ukraine needs more equipment or they’ll lose and-
I will never understand how appeasing Israel and going to war with Russia is going to fix Europe's problems. It should be the other way around imvho
>>536716217lmao, lol
>>536718928>retarded shill doesn’t know how IDs work Whatever they’re paying you is way too much, go back to your discord ukr_pic faggot.
>>536718843>Chud: Europe needs to go to war against muslim brown terrorists>Europe: OK (attacks russia)>Chud: NOOOOO not those muslim brown terrorists
>>536718843Once all the white men in Europe are gone there will be nobody left to trigger the shitskins so they will stop cutting peoples faces off and live happily ever after.
>>536713762It's doing something great harm (to Germany's economy).
>>536715025Lmao. I never saw this. Saved.
>>536713762Administrative work costs money
>>536715025Painfully accurate.
>>536717845middle school poster
>>536713844>not embracing sanctions is weaknesswhy do brag about being so fucking stupid?
>>536713671>>536713762see>>536722868
Russian shills have been telling me that sanctions actually improved their economy. Therefore in order to help them I propose we continue to add more sanctions and without an expiration date. This way everyone can rejoice.
>>536715025Kek, nice copejaks zigger
>>536723015today Lithuanian news posted an article about>"Why inflation is good, and why rising prices and falling salaries for Lithuania will help defeat Russia"
>>536723131Cool, may I see it?
>>536723015Russia has been under sanctions since Georgia, faggot. What was that like 2008?So thier collapse is due when exactly?
>>536723344>>536721025
>>536717569How does it cripple our economies if it doesn't affect russia? is the trade worthless to them when their gdp is the size of italy but all of europe collapses in two weeks without it?
>>536723764>russia has a gdp ppp of 7 trillions bigger than any european country >russia has grown more in the last 2 years than any european country 4% growth while most big european countries like germany uk italy have contracted or faced bellow 1% growth >russia has experienced industrial expansion while germany & uk are facing deindustrialization >russia's debt to GDP is the lowest of any major european economy below 20% while countries like italy france uk are facing above 100% debt to gdp >Europe is posed to face long term expensive energy yeah but sure repeating the 'economy the size of italy' meme will sure fool someone eventually
>>536723013Perpetually based.
>>536713671picel related
>>536713671>muh sanctions don't workthe why are you crying about it?
Median salary in Russia is around $600 and their shills will come here to tell you how great their economy is doing kek
>>536713671the last package only starts in 2030
>>536713671It would be funny if it wasn’t costing us billions.
VPN ziggers on suicide watch.
>>536731646They are recycling really old material. Like, cope from 2022 when it turned out their attack on Kyiv failed and the 3 days special military was a failure. Funny how literally every single one of them, without exception has the same exact talking point or two. It's like they are given orders in their telegram channel or whatever, "today we post about how sanctions are hurting Europe and making russia stronger".
>>536731503Who is "us"? The USA gives Israel more in 6 months than it gave Ukraine the entire war.
>>536713671It did cripple it brainlet.Why do you think they're unable to fund the war and their deficits are skyrocketing.Compared to last year, they already spent the deficit for the whole year in just a few months.They're overspending at insane rates and they have nowhere to borrow from.Banks are empty.They could just take Russians' deposits and keep going for a while more.Also Euros started impounding their shadow fleet.Step by step, Russia is being drained.We're on schedule
>>536718094For the same reason you put sanctions on cuba, best korea, iran. To bleed out their economy to the point they no longer became a threat. After that you continue doing so until it collapses so even people in power loose wealth and control. At that point the change is imminent. Worked with ussr although its was a big guy so it took 50 years. Might soon work with cuba because their government already is willing to open for small private businesses.And the argument with gas prices is ass because you have much more of it in middle east. So the price spike is more of a taco, bibi fault.
>>536713671Stupid russians. Should have never retreated once they passed berlin. Also should have not repayed lend lease.
>>536713671Just means another few thousand dead Russians while putins open borders agreement with africa and india keeps pumping them with migrants
>>536713671She is not even elected
Obligatory>sanctions don't work>sanctions make us stronger>sanctions only hit Russian civilians and are evil economic terrorism>please lift sanctions
>>536734085Wrong.
>>536715025Europe is unironically the custodian of the right side of history and this picture was made by a seething brown
>>536713844>Sanctions definitely workthat's true. they're definitely deindustrializing germany. and reindustrializing russia.>But if they do that, why would Russia ever want them dropped?an oligarch lobby desperate to sell resources to europe wants them dropped. the industrial lobby wants them increased. fortunately, the european elites are histrionic and fembrained, so the latter group will ultimately prevail
>>536734581When did Russia get deindustralized?
>>536734581How are the peasant class seeing the positive effects of sanctions? Did you get a well paid factory job building ammo?
>>536713762Vatnik OP BTFO
>>536734275Insulting brown people? You don't do zhat IN GERMANY
>>536733356Dont try to actually bring up economic realities here
>>536713762>If it doesn't do anything, why worry about it?It does nothing to Russia but does to Europe.
>>536735031Insulting people indeed is a low moral thing to do
>>536735098and yet, you always see ziggers seething about sanctions, while Europeans are seemingly fine with them. curious!
>>536735259Russia (a country that makes money by selling natural resources) actually profits long term by losing wealthy trade partners for resources or something
>>536734581With all respect my fellow HIVan, natural recources is the only thing Russia is capable to sell. No foreign trade - no money - no vodka - Russia collapses.
>>536725185>their pp small teheenow check india and figure out gdp per sector of any developed country and what's so special about developed countriesmonke.
>>536713762say "take that putin" during bussifiication
>>536715812>Sanctions have never worked on any country in history>Iran>North KoreaI'll add >CubaSo, when a caterpillar (Russia) is finally ready and has eaten enough (Sanctions) it will cocoon before hatching into a beautiful Butterfly (Cuba). Insurance can get expensive but what are you going to do? Not drive or go to jail?