What are the characteristics specifically and how are they distinct from vanilla socialism?
>>536737074>What is "socialism with Chinese characteristics"?just south asian instead of northern.
>>536737074Fascism unironically
>>536737590I didn't ask for another name for it. I asked what the specific characteristics are. No one has ever been able to explain this to me.
>>536737074Their NATION is China.So it's "socialism with National characteristics"Aka "National Socialism"You want to become an economic powerhouse? Just go full natsoc, it's that easy.I don't think even Deng Xaioping went as hard on it as Xi did.>inb4 jews made chinaYeah, they made Hitler too, so what?
>>536738677What ARE the characteristics though? This is what I'm asking and YET AGAIN no one seems capable of answering.
>>536738952Idc about chink culture. Their success is not about muh chinese exceptionalism. It's about nationalism, pure and simple. Anti globohomo "international communism" fake 'there will only be true communism when the whole world is communist' (under the kike boot). That's it. Just praise your loca lculture and local race. Foreigner muslims come? Send them to reeducation Uyghur camps until they learn how to integrate to our culture, or get shipped back. IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHAT THE LOCAL CULTURE IS.
>>536739716You typed all that up but still didn't say what the chinese characteristics are. You don't know either do you? No one does. It's all bullshit and there are no "chinese characteristics" are there?
>>536737074that's just how they call chinese fascism without using the word fascism
>>536737074economically it's a mix of state and market, it's just way more controlled by the state because it's a socialist state. Thing is that government from social aspect is always protective of the country so private business has to adhere to the rules. Dumbasses saying its national socialism are just coping retards who know nothing about how the world works.
>>536739806Chinese ethno-nationalism with CCP as their natsoc party controlling most of their key industries and economic directions. They even put Xi as their fuhrer now.
>>536740254>the marxist-leninists DEFINITELY want to be fascist but they don't want to say it because reasons, trust me I'm an expert on chinacope
there's probably a million books on this from forever ago
>>536737074they don't give a fuck about the global working classor at least they're not going to stick their necks out for them like the soviets did.that's literally it. basically stalinist socialism in one country but for real
nigga still thinks socialism and capitalism existsnigga doesn't know there are only self interestshas summer vacations started?
>>536740254Again, I didn't ask for another name for it. I asked what the "chinese characteristics" are specifically.>>536740258I have no idea what any of that means.>>536740407Name one.>>536740456What are the characteristics though?
>536739806You are arguing in bad faith.>You don't know either do you?I repeatedly said I don't know NOR CARE about chink culture. You didn't read or didn't care. FUCK YOU.For other readers, that is not what "chinese characteristics" mean. That wording is just to avoid saying "national socialism" outright. The local characteristics themselves don't matter. What matters is upholding locality.
>>536740848Then why are you here ITT?
>>536737074>What is "socialism with Chinese characteristics"?Sucking dick and delivering fast food for minimum wage in Australia, apparently.
>>536741498You guys have chinks driving uber eats in Australia? We mostly have jeets and sandniggers doing it here.
>>536740538The Governance of China, Xi Jinping. You're an attention seeking faggot so I know you won't read anyways.
Wang Huning as a scholar if you want that chink's works
>>536738952If you watch the exquofonte video "the true right" he uses the Chinese as an example of how the group evolutionary strategy of a people is dependent on the environment they evolved into. For whites, we evolved into rugged terrain that led to pluralistic societies with different institutions each having their own zone of influence over certain aspects of society. The Chinese evolved in a territory with countless interconnected rivers that were easily passable by boat which led their group evolutionary strategy to be one of centralized administrative bureaucracy
>>536739806Here's what you're not understanding. "Chinese characteristics" is a euphemism for fascism. It's quite literally a word we say so we don't have to call them fascists. You keep saying "What are these characteristics???" over and over and over again, people keep answering that it's the fact that they're doing fascism, but we can't call it that. You're just not understanding that there AREN'T unique Chinese characteristics, leftists just have to say that so they can distance themselves from it (they don't want to be associated with dystopic fascism.) while also not directly insulting it (they're still socialist, and tankies still love China.)"Chinese characteristics," as you've figured out, is just verbal slight of hand for western socialists to distance themselves and China from the fact that China is Fascist. They're doing Fascism in China.
socialism but if you don't slave 12 hours a day for a few billionaires in the CCP then you get put in reeducation camp
>>536737074Chinese Characteristics:>ancestor worship>herbal medicine>some numbers good luck, others bad luck>zodiac instead of white girl astronomy>get money, ignore everything else>fake it till you make itThose things are not characteristic of socialism, but are unique to China and the Chinese themselves. Also technically they have added a bit of capitalism back to their socialism, but make no mistake, the CCP controls it all. It just means Chinese citizens can buy phones and shit, not be issued them via a central authority.
>>536742037>>536742268What are the characteristics of Chinese socialism though and why can't anyone say?
>>536742378>"Chinese characteristics" is a euphemism for fascismGreat but what are they? Why do I have to keep saying over and over that I'm not asking for another name for "chinese characteristics" but rather why they in fact are.
>>536742622>Those things are not characteristic of socialism,Okay but I was asking what the characteristics of chinese socialism are, so the stuff you listed (while true) is moot. Using ground rhino horn as biggu dikku medicine isn't a characteristic of chinese socialism.
>>536742702... Its fascism. I genuinely don't understand what you're not getting.>"What's an apple???">"It's a fruit.">"I'm asking what an APPLE is, not what a FRUIT is, I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!"The issue honestly seems to be you're having an existential crisis and you're unwilling and unable to connect or comprehend concepts."Chinese Characteristics" = "Fascism"If you don't know what fascism is, look it up on YouTube or something! Retard.
>>536742807>>536742702>>536742639Chinese characteristic = Chinese ethno nationalism.
>>536737074It is literally just fascismSyndicalist instead of socialist economy. Instead of the worker and owner class being against each other, group them up into different sectors and prevent the owner class from spreading between sectors (heavy punishments).Instead of complete state ownership of the means of production, the state is simply heavily invested in corporations, and has officers in charge of directing the movement of productNo more worker revolution and landlord slaying. But rent is heavily controlled and land ownership is not generational to prevent feudalistic renting.Ignores the ethos of marxism and instead places the state as the heart of the nation with a unifying myth combining religious, cultural, economical, class, and racial components under the state, where the state is superior to all of that.
>>536743052>>536743162>It is literally just fascism>Its fascismAgain, I'm not asking for another name for it but what it is. What are the characteristics of Chinese socialism that make it different from other socialisms?>>536743070Yeah okay but what are those characteristics. How does Chinese ethno nationalism translate into specific characteristics of socialism and what are they?
>>536737074Changed depending on the specific leader but the QRD is state driven capitalistic growth. The distinction is that China is state capitalist while the Soviets used a planner economy.
>>536743226Are you trolling retard? I mentioned the characteristics in my text
>>536737074vanilla socialsm is state planned economic output. Chinese characteristic is allowing capitalist competition in a defined context while the CCP retains full control and can do whatever it wants
>>536743226Oh my fucking God, you are a retard.I'm going to say this one more time, and if you don't get it, I'm actually done talking to your stupid ass.Do you understand what a euphemism is??? A euphemism is when someone says one thing to AVOID saying something that sounds harsher.THERE IS NO FUCKING UNIQUE CHINESE CHARACTERISTIC, YOU FUCKING RETARD. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU. IT'S A EUPHEMISM LEFTISTS SAY SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO SAY "FASCIST" OR "ETHNO-NATIONALIST," WHICH ITSELF IS ALSO A EUPHEMISM FOR BEING FASCIST.What part of that is fucking confusing to you???>Durr, but what are the Chinese Characteristics?There aren't any. People say "Chinese characteristics" to not say fascism. Your question has been answered perfectly, fucking succinctly, it's over.You're one stupid prick, aren't you.
>>536737074National corporativism. Don't check who invented it
>>536743380I stopped reading after the first sentence obviously because I wasn't asking for a different name, as I said several times.>>536743601What is the defined context?>while the CCP retains full control and can do whatever it wantsThat sounds like an unaccountable dictatorship more than socialism.>>536743616>There aren't anyI know. Thank you for saying it finally after so much anger.
>>536743788Not interested in another name for it. What are the characteristics?
>>536740386Nigger they almost killed Deng Xiaoping for it, because they were fanatics with muh Mao and muh marxismhttps://www.bushcenter.org/freedom-collection/wei-jingsheng-deng-xiaoping-and-economic-development
>>536743226The same ethno characteristics of chinks. "Confucius" values. Imperial court like governance and governmental system
>>536744081You autist, were you trying to prove a point and disliked how everyone already knew your point and agreed?????What level of autism is this?
>>536737074In normal socialism everybody is the same, politically speaking.In chink socialism everybody is the same in appearance tooLMAO
1 race kingdom
>>536737074It's crony Capitalism>t. Chinese.
>>536737074Is that the fucking Mexican border?
>>536737074The idea of "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is the old definition of socialism as the same thing as soviet defined communism and adapting it to the situation in China. The argument (made by retarded Trotskyists) was that China in the 1950s was that China had way to many peasants and not enough working class to do communism and they needed a working class to do communism. Dung decided that using the tools of capitalism would build a working class faster than Moa's idea of "leapfroging" capitalism. Mao died and Dung took over so that's what the Chinese did. It is not the soviet line or the Trotski line but a Chinese line.
>>536737074the same as any other socialism, just with squat toilets
>>536744457No I was just saying that there are no "chinese characteristics" and that's why no one can explain what they are. It's just somethihg Xi says but even he can't say what it even means.
>>536746328I think you nailed it desu
>>536746564Soviets did that too, even under Stalin. Collective ag was abandoned for example since it only lead to starvation.
>>536737074It's actually a clever idea. It basically means:> we still call ourselves communist, but we can do whatever works, instead of relying on Marx as the end-all be-all.It works for the same reason I always refer to myself as an "Eisenhower Republican". No one knows what it means, so it can mean whatever I need at any given moment
>>536747101>No one knows what it means, so it can mean whatever I need at any given momentYou sound very jewish desu. Shameful behavior.
>>536747088and why do you think China is successful, while soviet communism failed?
>>536737074Fascism, as >>536737590anon said.
>>536747088The civil war and foreign mercenaries attacking food production lead to starvation. After the civil war ended the starvation ended. The collective farms were very successful and many are still functioning today, stupid.
>>536737074Its just communists who rebranded as socialists realizing they have completely lost their retarded cause scrapping the bottom of the barrel to try and revitalize their movement by clinging to chinkland and praying it becomes a super power.
>>536738677China is not nationalist though.
>>536737074It's socialist without a retarded dictator at the power
>>536749189False and cope. >>536749420>Xi is not a retarded dictator Well, I don't know enough about him to say if he's retarded or not.
>>536737074Socialism, but they give even less of a shit about individual human lives.
