So uhh... what's the plan to fix Social Security?
>>536745391Convince people sugar is good and meat is bad, so they don't ever reach retirement age. ez
>>536745463God I want a ciggerette
>>536745391>fixAdd an Amendment banning it, because its Semitic-Communism.
>>536745631Banning social security would result in a massive influx of homeless boomers begging on the streets. It'd be a very bad look for America.
>>536745391Tax the jews that have been stealing money for the past 100 years with money printing.
>>536745391Idk, if we import another 10 million Somalis maybe we can save the system
>>536745391they've been saying SSA is going bankrupt since the 1980s>>536745631republicans are celebrating because they got a basic funding bill passed. There's no way they're going to do anything real.
>>536745391Tax Bezos
>>536745599That'll keep you from eating either.
>>536745599>ciggerettebro are you serious with that spelling
>>536745391Erase the cap that makes it so you dont have to pay into it if you are rich enough.There, I just fixed it. Nothing else needed, fully solvent with a literal flick of a switch.>>536745631>the literal only thing the government has ever done that directly helps white peopleShalom! Your mask is slipping a bit there!
>lol
>>536745391That is a 2032 campaign issue. When the fund runs out then payouts will drop ~25%. Boomers cannot afford that as boomers who didn't save for retirement already are paycheck to paycheck. No politician wants to be stained with "didn't vote to help seniors" when seniors are the most likely to vote demographic. So they will vote to take out more debt each year to pay for social security.There is no other solution. Red team doesn't want to increase tax on rich. Blue team doesn't want to cut spending. More debt, more inflation, higher bond yields, more debt, more inflation, repeat until weimer currency levels.
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>>536745739they have been saying that because it is true
>>536745391Every year the curve moves a little bit to the right.
>>536745882Backed. Endorsed.
>>536745391Hmmm needs a bailout That will work riiiight?
>>536745691good thing social security beneficiaries voted for trump isn't dependent on it and has repeatedly said he's going to get rid of it all. conveniently as he's going senile and no longer in control of himself
>>536745391We can start by removing the 120 year olds living in brown countries who have been retired for 60 years now. We cam also maybe not give all our money to niggers and brown people but nah let's just get rid of it so we cam give niggers and brown people even more welfare
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>>536745391>So uhh... what's the plan to fix Social Security?Boomer genocide.
>>536746063Yes, hang the kikes
>>536745391If you're under like 50 you were always never going to receive entitlements. So yes, anything you've ever paid into this, you were scammed out of.
Millenials are getting fucked over hard. They will pay into SS their whole lives and never see a nickle.
>>536745391plan? son this was setup for the boomers and boomers alone. is it a coincidence it is going away roughly around the time most boomers are dying?
>>536745391Import infinity niggers
>>536745932Cause we're gonna KILL em
>>536746011No point. It's not a bank or a major corporation and most importantly it won't affect the Boomers by the time the bubble pops. Forcing Millennials to sell their homes at reduced prices so banks and corporations can snatch them up would be good for the economy.
>>536745391.Vote Far Right.
>>536745391use the money to buy into all of these tech companies and then leave the dead boomers kids holding the bags
>>536746137>contribute the most>get nothing back in the end
>>536746216Face the wall kike
>>536746139Do you even know when social security was established? You retarded fucking brown faggot?
>>536745691Banning social security would make people have kids to support them in their old age.
>>536745739Because it has nigger, they've just been putting it onto debt and letting the interest repayment owed to banks on the sum per year grow, while they refuse to raise taxes to legitimately fund it.The point of why 2030s matter is that is a time where addressing the debt is more than the income to keep the scheme running. Running the whole scam in the red as they have been doing isn't viable anymore.They'll be forced to have to do something because the current practice is no longer viable.>>536746137millennials are basically the boomer antimatter generation. Boomers screw everything up to their benefit going in, and screw everything going out, millennials get screwed in and will get screwed out.
>>536746479>Tax the greatest generation>Raid the fund right as the Boomers reach middle age>Crash the plane with no survivors as soon as it's not their problem
>>536746345Which wall anon? The wall on my 5 bedroom house or the wall on my 6 car garage? I've never done it on the pool house so lets try that.
How fucked are younger generations going to be when they get into their 50s and 60s? No Social Security, no Medicare/Medicaid (if things keep going the way they are with cuts), and the average young person doesn't have jack shit for retirement savings. We'll be seeing mass deaths or suicides of older Millennials/Zoomers/Alphas across the country
>>536745910>>536745391I have the solution right here
>>536746604Having kids is way more expensive than investing for your retirement. Especially these days when young people are so broke. It'll just make people want children even less.>>536747215No worries Canada has the solution. It's called MAID and we've already rolled it out and tested it for you. It's called MAID and it'll save western economies.
>>536746969only 5? lmao
>>536747721Kids are inflation adjusted.
>>536746479Social security even when it was established benefited those who were born 30-40 years after it was created. The entire concept is the government saves the money you the citizen pays in and then you get it back plus a little extra every year. If you work for 10 years and neet for the rest of your adult life then the payout will be heavily lowered. It is calculated based on your highest 35 earning years of your working adult life. So the people that passed the law in 1935 could have retired in 1936 and gotten pennies each month from social security.Quite honestly it is a scam. If you do the math then the maximum amount that can be taxed yearly for social security is $22,878. Half of that if you are employed is paid by the company and half by you, or the full amount if you are self employed.$22,878 deposited into VOO starting January 1 2011 ending January 1 2046 would end up being $5,417,613 assuming average returns of 10% from 2011-today remain the average until January 1 2046. If you retire at 67 to get full draw then you get $4,152 per month or $49,824 a year (which is extremely rare to get this, less than 1%). If you lived until 97 then you only get $1,494,720 back from social security, assuming maximum payout remains $4,152 a month. Even if social security 3.7x the payout then you would barely be ahead taking the maximum contribution and throwing it into VOO etf and literally doing nothing.I genuinely do not understand why we keep this system going. I get it was designed to be retard insurance but simply throwing into VOO it will keep growing past 67 and at 10% growth a year you could withdraw 4% a year of 5.4M, or 216k, and probably be able to maintain that level of withdraw rate for life. At worst you have to drop down to 100k or something when you are 80 and can barely move around. Mathematically it doesn't make sense to me why it even exist unless you make less than 15k or 20k a year on average for your entire adult life.
>>536745882Yep. Really as ezpz as that, if only it were done
>>536748071The real scam is hiding your contributions behind the company's fucking bookkeeping.That's money YOU should be getting paid for YOUR TIME.
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>>536745391Lol said the scorpionLmao
>>536745391quit giving it to foreigners that never paid in to it and never will, and lazy cunts grifting for gibs with bullshit "disabilities".
>>536748614Its so normies don't see 12.4% being taken from their check for social security and they think it is only 6.2%. When I speak to boomers at work they often do not realize that the company pays the same as what you do in the background for taxes and an additional portion of insurance on top of what you pay. Just have to consider that part of your salary and compensation for if you were self employed you would pay it. My company at least has a document they give you each year that states your salary plus what they pay for you to see your true compensation plus bonuses. So while my base salary was 67k and some change last year it really was 87k or so considering bonuses plus the 7k insurance they pay additional to what I pay plus taxes. And I use that fact when I apply to other jobs and ask to know the amount they pay for insurance in the background to see if I would be getting a pay raise or pay cut considering insurance as I currently have a very good plan where it is $40 a month for medical, vision and dental for myself and my wife. Where I could be technically getting a pay raise at a different job but then be paying $600 per month for the same benefits and end up losing money per month. Just something you have to consider when job shopping.
>>536745391we need to liquidate the boomers. Their holdings, their power, their assets, their lives.
>>536749343And then there's all the "benefits" that are just the company could be paying you more but hides behind a "contribution."Shit only makes sense if opting out isn't a damned 100% penalty.
>>536749412Shill or brain damaged?I can't fucking tell anymore. Fucking binary retards.
>>536745391Cancel it tomorrow.
>>536745391just cancel the program. What are boomers gonna do?
>>536747215Even a lot of Boomers can't keep up with the cost of living. Once the AI bubble bursts and their 401ks collapse in value, they'll be priced out of almost everything just like Zoomers and MillenialsMost of the Western world is just catered around trying to prop up Boomers before they kick the bucket
>>536745391If you kill all the old people it will help that graph look a lot better so it's time to ship violent criminals into areas that old people live inI should become a politician
>>536745391Trust and fund in the same sentence, this tell a lot about our society
>>536747727It's the smallest house I have. Figured I didn't want to intimidate that anon.
>>536749650I agree. As I mentioned the only way social security really works in your favor is if you make under 20k a year for your entire adult life. Or if you abuse SSDI I guess.
>>536745391Kill the rich and steal their stuff much like the Israelis kill the Palestinians and steal their stuff. The clever thing about my plan is that the rich actually have stuff to steal. You have to kill like 20,000 Palestinians to get as much stuff as you would get by killing one rich dude.
>>536745391>The Income Cap: Social Security payroll taxes are only applied up to a specific maximum amount of earnings each year. For 2026, the maximum taxable amount is $184,500. Any income earned above this cap is not taxed for Social Security.So the obvious solution that the Dems are going to force down everyone's throats would be to eliminate the cap entirely.
>>536749802After the military integration with Israel. Likely within a year of it happening
>>536747414That may be all there is for millennials and zoomers
>>536745391scam from the start
>>536745391Let it collapse.Preserve the principle behind it, helping those in need. Veterans, spergs, the otherwise disabled including elderly people who are getting on a bit.Tightening the belt will mean most of the niggers won't receive their EBT or other subsidies anymore.It'll cause a lot of trouble, but it'll preserve social security in a workable way.One alternative is to scrap the whole thing as a commie mistake, but then you're left with rioting niggers as well as angry spergs and starving boomers.
>>536750673>One alternative is to scrap the whole thing as a commie mistakenew deal marxism. the roosevelt faggot put evil scum on the court to ensure permanency
>>536746604It shouldn't be age-based.People get graded on their health all the time for all sorts of things.Every problem with society always boils down to whether leadership is benevolent or not, and leadership which isn't benevolent will change standards of what's healthy or merits subsidy to either virtue signal or to actively destroy society.The guarantee of old age pensions paid for by the taxpayer is what's helping discourage procreation.The guarantee must be revoked. The subsidy must be based on your health.
>>536745391>planyou are looking at it anon
>>536750145ahhhhhhhhhh...... niggers. haha. they smell.
>>536747215Realistically - flop houses are coming back. Maybe with some kind of work attached to it. That would be be the good scenario.
>>536745391Fuck the boomers.
>>536745910good thing boomers raised ter kids to be successful lawyers and engineers and got them good jobs and aren't scammy fags who left them to eat shit, right? Because if they treated them like shit they will likely have problems.
>>536750507Rich people should eat shit
>>536745391Abolish it.Why are you feeding parasites?
>>536748881Dewit. Show them who's the boss.
>>536745391IMPORT A BILLION INDIANS
>>536750530>After the military integration with IsraelThe what now?
>>536745391Will Boomers suffer if social security goes away?
>>536745391Tie it to inflation instead of there being more workers than retired people.
>>536745391>>536745463>>536745631>>536745709Oh look, another economic genius who doesn’t understand basic math.Right now, Social Security taxes cap out at $176,100. Every dollar above that is completely exempt. If we lift that cap and tax the ultra-rich on 100% of their income instead of letting them slide, the system’s projected funding gap vanishes entirely.It’s literal addition and subtraction, you absolute crayon-chewer. But please, keep crying into your anime body pillow about "demographics" when the actual math is right there.
>>536745882You fucking get it. Look someone on pol with a fucking brain, color me surprised.
>>536755619>hurr durr tax the rich 100%If your boss told you that you wouldn't be paid after eight hours at work, you'd stay for a twelve hour shift, right?
I don't care if I work till I die but the government should really come up with WFH type jobs for seniors
>>536747215>How fucked are younger generations going to be when they get into their 50s and 60s? No Social Security, no Medicare/Medicaid (if things keep going the way they are with cuts), and the average young person doesn't have jack shit for retirement savings. We'll be seeing mass deaths or suicides of older Millennials/Zoomers/Alphas across the countryI think since people are also not getting married it is going to be normalized that you just live with a friend or relative in the same situation to deal with costs. I wouldn't be shocked if by 2030 the government themselves suggest people do this before they cut SS
>>536747721We can't have MAID. Bad for corporate profits. And the Christcucks (((coincidentally))) own a shit load of hospital networks. You get to suffer and die in debt in the land of Freedumb. Thought your house was going to your kids? No that's socialism. Be thankful for your death panels.
>>536745691they won't ban it until the last boomer politician is gonethen the gen x jews will use AI to steal the remaining funds for more stock purchasing
>>536748071>The entire concept is the government saves the money you the citizen pays in and then you get it back plus a little extra every yearThat's not how the concept works. It's a pay as it goes system. (It pays current beneficiaries by taking from current taxpayers.) When there aren't enough current taxpayers to support the current beneficiaries it collapses. (Because it's a ponzi scheme.)
>>536745391Why are younger people still forced paying into social security yet they won't see a dime from it? How is that not outright theft?
>>536745391>forecastRetarded nothingburger
>>536745932Made an account just to say THIS
>>536745391>Fix?
>>536745391>you eventually lose the ability to take money from net contributors and give it to niggers and spics when all that’s left in a country are niggers and spicsHuh, really makes you ponder over yonder
that shit's been disappeared
>>536745391Keep increasing the age requirement until it's impossible to collect
>>536755944Unlike you wagie, I'm my own fucking boss. You are a cuck. Please Mr. 1% earner keep all your money while I get less outta the money I put in. Fucking pathetic. You disgust me.
>>536757319Retard it's taking your money and giving it back to you. Fuck y'all on pol are more retarded than biz
>>536756719Everyone pays money to the government and gets virtually nothing in return.
>>536755944Are you fucking with him? It's not a 100% tax. It's applying the same rate the first $176k got taxed at to the next $100000k+
>>536745391import 6 billion more shitskin immigrants and load em up with credit.
>>536755619>If we tax the social security tax it will pay for itself.This could only make sense in a jew brain
>>536745391Umm, to kill all of you before you get to the age of retirement, after they destroy the health care system and cut all funding for it?What, did you think the clotshots were for, stopping covid?That's retarded. You're retarded.
>>536757903we pay that money so illegals can fill up the ER and get everything they want treated for free, from simple headaches to major surgeries.DIVERSITY IS OUR STRENGTH.WE LOVE ISRAEL.
>>536745391cancel social security payments to boomers and pay off the 40T$ boomer debt instead> you took out a loan> now pay it offboomers voted for this every 2 years for their entire lives
>>536745391Boomers got theirs, and pretty much you can just go fuck yourself. That's it.That's the plan.
>>536757898Holy shit get a load of this retarded nigger who thinks SSI is just a Scrooge McDuck pile of cash that’s been sitting in a locked coffer for 50 years. I’m surprised you have the physiological impulse to breathe, much less the cognitive capacity to use a keyboard. Gas yourself immediately. Stupid fucking nigger
>>536745391its pretty simple if they wanted to fix it, but they dont, repugs want it to fail so they can privatise it and give it to their rich patrons on wall street just like George Carlin predicted
>>536745932So, we looked at the data...
>>536755619>Tax go up>Spending goThe best we could hope for is stalled inflation but even that won't happen. The allure of spending is just too powerful.
>>536757898>Retard it's taking your money and giving it back to youRetard, its a known slush fund that's been stolen from and bankrupted. Boomers are getting SS from the tax revenue you're currently making. You will need the generations after you to pay for yours
>>536745391Deport all post-1965 brown immigrants that are registered democrats (70%+), on welfare, or likely both - then denaturatize and seize their assets.Easy peasy.
>>536752040Flop houses should come back. Local zoning and code will never allow it because of property taxes. But that should be illegal. Any shelter is better than walking over people sleeping on sidewalks. Government should be sued for allowing people to lay anywhere, especially doing drugs or drinking. The states making camping in public spaces illegal are trying to get ahead of being sued for misfeasance malfeasance nonfeasance. They charge you for sidewalks you can't use, parks you can't use, medians, etc.
>So uhh... what's the plan to fix Social Security?copy whatever japland is doing
>>536760361Socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor
>>536745391universal high income. anything else is a psyop or cope.
>There will only be 2 workers to 5 retirees!>workers won't be able to support themYeah but workers have become 10x more productive. Tax where that productivity is going. Oh wait. Tax the rich? Nah.
>>536745391have browns come in then blame the robbery on them while the real thieves flee to new zealandwtf it worked flawlessly
>>536745391>what's the planboomers hoping they'll die before it runs out and then it's your problem
>whats all these boomers plans
>>536745391The fix is the same as it's always been and it's to print money
>>536768036Selling your life insurance plan should be considered fraud.
>hmm>let me just...>slllurrrpp>ahh...have you seen the game last night?
>>536745391Either we reverting back to pre ww2 days where all safety nets are gone and businesses can basically own slaves while the board are all ai agents.or we will switch over to ubi. Pretty sure maid is going to be a thing instead of medicaid or medicare
>>536755944Literally not what >>536755619 wrote, moron.What it says is to apply taxation to 100% of the income, at the going rate.It does NOT say to apply 100% taxation.And yes- that's EXACTLY what should be done. Infact, I'd probably even flip the cap the other way around. That is: make the first $20,000 or so of income exempt from social security taxes, but tax everything above it.
>>536745599I might have one later.
>>536745599And a dictionary.
More tax cuts for billionaires and aid to israel.
>>536745391We dont. Social security is a ponzi scheme and for the good of America it needs to be done away with.
>>536755619WE'RE JUST GONNA KILL EM
>>536745391Did you think boomers were acting like the country was for sale because they had a plan B?There won't BE social security.
>>536745391literally print moneythere is no solutionwe're just defaulting by another means. SS will be secured. But that is all.>>536770730unfortunately most 'rich' don't really have incomes. They do, but only because collecting some sort of paycheck is easier when it comes to dealing with the IRS. Modest wage. The rest is in assets, which gets leverages for debt. You get your 'spending money' from banks, who functionally 'pay' you to use your assets to make loans. You aren't charged interest. They don't care about being repaid, because they're making so much more money from interest sapped from goodgoys. Strictly speaking, the interest income the banks make from leveraging your assets is what repays your principal. You don't even have to pay anything back.Meanwhile, since this is technically 'debt', you a don't face any taxes.For SS, I agree. There shouldn't be a cap. But it is basically a pointless one. This won't solve anything realistically. don't think it will hurt, but SS is still insolvent.Put another way, there are reasons absolute fools are seriously talking about taxing unrealized capital gains.Sorry to merely be the critic. I don't have any solutions. SS and similar nets are simply the biggest wealth transfers from future generations, children, to retired adults. Poverty rates flipped upside down with SS. I don't think it is our only 'real' problem. Not by a long shot. Women aren't suddenly going to start having babies if SS ended. But it very clearly has done nothing but take disposable income from the only class 'unaffected' laborers, and given it to the class on its way out the door. Far as I am concerned, we will see the natural conclusion of that no matter how we struggle.
>>536745391democrats win the election in 2028, and magically the social security program that operates on five cents on the dollar magically works again. crazy how those things work out.
>>536775044they're going to fucking droned by absolutely everyone the moment the curtain drops to reveal that, they're already worried about it.
>>536745391You living in a pod, owning nothing and being happy pal
>>536745391If you're a NEET you've already pretty much achieved this goal.
>>536745391Just abolish it, it worked for Reagan, he got 98% of the vote and was added to Mount Rushmore.
>>536755619
>>536745391Also, inject the majority of the population with experimental drugs, so they don't live past sixty
>>536745391Nonwhites should still pay into social security because they are retarded slaves anyway. Nonwhites wouldn't be able to keep themselves alive in such numbers without White infrastructure and jewish coercion of Whites.
>>536746604lol no it'd just be a lot more suicides.things improve with incentivesthings get worse with avoidance of penalties being the only motivation to continue.take from the joomerjewmur and distribute to white men in their prime all properties and holdings.
Gotta make unemployed illegal. Its the only way to solve this.
>>536758190hahaha im 40 now.hahaha i went without luxuries like sex and a shelter im not renting from a boomer by the month for half my earnings hahaha.they go on exotic vacations hahaha.they collect antique motorcycles and have investment properties the complain nobody can buy for 100x what its worth because its illegal to just go build your own that is within your means.hahaha. the landlord generation will never die, they will get tesla robot bodies paid for completely through medicaid/medicare and they will continue on forever. hahaha.haahaa haaahaaa.
>>536745391Raise the retirement age to 100, and make the eligibility requirements for current collections to those with net worths under 1 million, or 750k, pick a number so most successful boomers cannot collect anymore. Should reduce liability over night by 30% and bankrupt all the Casinos in the country.
>>536776823If I were in charge employment would be mandatory, but the retirement age would be 45. Its possible if everyone pitches in.
>>536745391do we want to have a real conversation?First the issue is seniors who are financially well off and wealthy receiving it. Thats the #1 issue. Now heres the political kicker. If you target seniors who do not "need" social security, social security becomes welfare, not entitlements, so then it can be cut. BUT you will never have a targetted campaign to remove poor seniors off of welfare. That is the crux of the political problemThe financial problem is that there is empirical evidence now, not speculation, that removing the tax and self investing would make you wealthier and healthier.The USA political structure is not poised to deal with this issue as no one will platform it. The endgame is what is known as bag holding. Expect 2030s to be shit like bernie and florida teaming up type absurdness
>>536776941>employment mandatoryyou def havent read a single shred of history or monetary policy. You want to make the nation entirely poor the fastest way, get employment to 100% and watch how little you have
>>536777334Do you want social security funded and needless semen not spilled?
>>536777388social security should be ended full stop and each individual given a 401k
The only two guarantees in our federal budget are boomer gibs and foreign aid.
>>536745391infinity jeet
>>536777468Dubya wanted to do this exact thing.
>>536745391It only needs to last until the last boomer dies. No refunds. How does it feel knowing they worked 10x less for 10x more and you STILL have to pay for their retirement on top of it all?
>>536777646Didn't work. Won't work. And not worth it.I'd rather die old and broke than live in a multicultural society.>But you do.I moved to get away from that shit.
>>536777646I've seen enough. Promote this man to head of homeland security right now
>>536745391>social security collapses shortly after trump gets into officewho could have seen this coming
>>536750665Most intelligent post itt
>>536745391There isn’t one. They’ll borrow money to keep it afloat for Boomers (to the tune of another twenty or thirty trillion on national debt) for another decade or two, but I guarantee they’re going to start shilling the phase out on the next few years.
>>536777656Meh...most boomers are ideologically coddled like children. Their entire neoliberal ideology was insulated by their economic prosperity. They lived their entire lives without having to question their beliefs.
>>536745391I'd rather pay less in taxes and watch boomers squirm and complain.Their misery will make the years I wasted contributing so that some worthless old person can have comfort a little better.-a millennial who wasted their life for boomers.May every one of them die in the most horrible way possible. May they die surrounded by filth and can't recall the last time their kids called them.
>>536777649do you know how much wealthier each person would be if that happened? Everyone under 60 wouldve been perfeclt fine during the financial crisis then gotten paid over the bull run. from claude,youd have 800k to give in inheritance, 65k yearly income in my and W scenario with government, you get, $0 to give to heirs and 19k a year incomewidows and their children we can find an alternative way to care for them
>>536745391Testing
>>536778044Democrat voters aren't smart enough or have no self control or simply have no income to invest.This is why we need mandatory social security, to support this barely functional democrat voting base.
>>536745391>buy gold, Swiss francs, and a gun-Robert Vesco
>>536778155listen i do agree but brother the numbers are in, the problem is wealthy pensioners, investors and people that dont need it collecting. The conversation needs to be what you said, by and large, democractic voters (non whites) dont have the desire, ability or earning power to avoid senior poverty
>>536778030Boomers owe me a life worth living.
>social security
>>536745391They'll just institute a tax on unrealized gains from 401k's (those who are affording their own retirement), spend that on other shit, and then cry about how there's still not enough to fund SS
>>536778030 bring down as a millennial is just a skill issue
>>536745391Maybe start by teaching people how it works so politicians can't just rob it while pretending it's a welfare benefit.
>>536745631Even giga capitalist Charlie Munger praised SS...
>>536745391Boomers use every last cent before death, leaving their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren to foot the bill without ever retiring themselves. You don’t seriously think politicians will risk their careers for something as trivial as the financial collapse of the entire world economy, do you?
>>536745882>Erase the cap that makes it so you dont have to pay into it if you are rich enough.>There, I just fixed it. Nothing else needed, fully solvent with a literal flick of a switch.Bullshit
>>536745882>>536745882This takes out about 2/3rds of the deficit but not all of itThe developed world is a giant Ponzi scheme begging to collapse on itself. That's why basically every private company has walked away from pensions. It makes no sense to pay people indefinitely to not work.
>>536750031>get votes by killing their grandparents wtf
>>536745391>how do you fix this ponzi scheme so we can run it even longer>heuheuheuPogrom kikes and send 150,000,000 browns back to hell.
>>536779385My mother is collecting a private pension my grandfather earned back in the 70s-80s. He gifted it to her without taking it himself but still that is insane.
>>536778563>Maybe start by teaching people how it works so politicians can't just rob it while pretending it's a welfare benefit.yeah, repugs prevent the SSA from doing that by law, they cannot advertise to counter the repug propaganda about SS as welfare, FDR saw this coming and warned about it, repugs want the proles to believe Wall Street privatising SS is in their interests by claiming it fails as a retirement savings plan when it was designed as an insurance program not a retirement savings plan
>>536745391The plan is to rob it not fix it
End it now. I'll put my money into Pokemon cards instead.
>>536745691The poor boomers can ask the rich boomers to help them.
>>536780162Ok DSP
>>536780132>The plan is to rob it not fix ityep, (((wall street))) cannot stand seeing such a huge pot of money that they cannot milk for transaction fees and speculation bubbles, so they get their repug flunkies to bamboozle the proles into giving it to them
>>536745391Obviously the solution is to import brown foreigners.
>>536745391We could get the rich tax dodgers to pay their share.
>>536745391Starvation
>>536745691why don't they sell their boomer mc mansions that they bought for a 3 year's salary
>>536782614Boomers can't sell their houses. Nobody can afford the price they're asking. There is something like 7-10x the number of houses for sale vs number of qualified buyers. Boomers will die in their mansions and Blackrock will acquire them when they die. Proceeds will be taxed and the family will get nothing.
>>536784125ding ding dingif you are lucky [or diligent] enough to have sizable assets,it's never too early to set up revocable trusts
Obviously there isn’t one. Boomers are going to keep the gravy train running and then dump the wreckage on you.
>>536745391The plan is to spend all the money on boomers retirement and leave the rest of us high and dry.
>>536745391Certainly with Republicans, there is no plan. They will run face first into it and blame Obama.
>>536745391Abolish it, and convert existing funds into a first home buyer grant for wmwf couples under 30 that have been married for at least one year and have at least one child they're both the biological parents of.Then implement Roth IRA accounts that don't have upper income lockouts, calculate contribution limits based on the number of years you've been an American citizen, and roll over any unused contribution space to next year.People can be responsible for their own fucking retirement investments.
>>536745882SS is structured in an insane way with the highest payouts going to independently wealthy elderly that don't need it
>>536745391the plan is to rugpull the remaining boomers to enrich stock owners and cause mass homelessness and starvation
>>536784125oh no! that sucks! well my buying prices are firm. maybe they can try dying mad about itblackrock will be dispossessed eventually. turns out buying an empty house and keeping it empty does not prevent anyone from living in it
>>536774979You can't because SS payouts are pegged to inflation, with COLA adjustments. Gigaprint and SS just goes up that much.Do you know anything about how SS "works"?
>>536745391There is no fix. This was a Ponzi scheme. The best solution is to just confiscate boomer wealth
>>536755619>your incentive to reach the top is getting taxed 100% to pay for shitty negroes to have 10 kids each
>>536745391Donald Trump stole it. He's very happy.
>>536785516The first thing to do is reduce the maximum benefit, which is far higher than the OECD average, and the maximum benefits go to people who are already wealthy. Second is to make SS taxable again, which makes taxes simpler. Third is to increase taxes to 90s levels, since 21st century tax cuts have not produced growth proportionate to the increased sovereign debt payments.
>mfw watching boomer relative blow through $2100 a month in free SS cash while I work to subsidize it through involuntary taxation>mfw he refuses to save money or even just shop smarter to make his dollar go further>mfw I make less than half of what he gets for free working a 5 day a week job>mfw nobody even pretends that SS payments will still be a thing when I'm old enough to collect
>>536785193>convert existing funds into a first home buyer grant for wmwf couples under 30 that have been married for at least one year and have at least one child they're both the biological parents of.Those people already have a mortgage
>>536786004That's the rub. When you make less than someone else getting some kind of gibs. You never forget it.
>>536745391You fix it thirty years ago. Baring that, it's unfixable and needs to crash. Old people can be homeless next to their grandkids. Seeing as they are the ones who sold their nation out to the Jews, still defend Jews, and refuse to see the problems they let happen. It's only fair.Only Jews get to have houses and can eat every day. This is what old fuckers told me.
>>536745391>Trust fundThat shit is a ponzi scheme. They should have gone after the businesses instead of using payroll to stock it, and it should've been an account controlled by the person that it was intended like in the actual legislation.
>>536745391Nothing. Pull yourself up by your boot straps. Work hard. Still not enough. WORK HARDER. Not one owes you a DAMN thing.
>>536787999It was never intended to be an individual account. FDR's lawyers were very clear about this.
>>536745391Been seeing tons of boomers working bottom of the barrel wagie jobs like Walmart & Domino's recently. None of them ever appear happy & look like they're silently seething.
>>536745391The plan is to bring a shit load of immigrants to make it viable for slightly longer. And then by the time it crashes the country will be too politically divided to punish the elive through the balot box.
>>536750665Nothing in America is named appropriately.Social SecurityMedicarePatriot ActAffordable Care ActCivil Rights ActEqual Opportunity EmployerAll of these do anything but the thing they claim to be.
>>536745391Plan?
>>536787516I wouldn't even be mad if he was smart enough to live within his means, shop wisely and set aside a few bucks each month to have an emergency fund. Instead he burns through all of it before the next check comes and borrows from family for emergencies. If I got more than double my monthly pay WITHOUT having to work for it I'd be budgeting and saving like crazy while enjoying 100% of my free time instead of watching 20 year old Price is Right reruns 24/7.
>>536786004>makes $1,000/month>that's $12,000/year>claims it's full timei don't think Pops is the trouble, mane
illegal immigrants will do that
Social security "trusts" will be managed by the state instead of federal government. Just like abortion we leave it up to the states.Since ss fags will purposefully move to a different state just for higher ss payouts
>>536745391Start WW3 to cull the herd
>>536745391The plan is more money to boomers becuase they're the ones actually voting.
>>536745391No plan. Get fucked Gen X, Millenials, and Zoomers.
>>536745391Oh! You'll be paying into it until the Trump generation dies out and then it'll be removed forever. How very coincidental.
>>536785680Their incentive to reach the top right now is to rape children and our country but keep simping
>>536770268sure did bucko what a banger huh? did you see when Daquavius Jamiraquoi Johnson made that impossible shot? just absolutely crazy
>>536755619What happens if we just double that amount to keep up with inflation instead of on 100% of income
>>536745391The correct answer would be to change SS payouts to be a function of what taken in in taxes. The actual answer will be to take on more debt to cover the shortfall.
>>536785680The "top" would do more for the economy by squandering their wealth than sitting on their trustfund nepobaby hoard.
>>536745882If you raise the cap you also raise the amount you pay out because those two numbers are tied to each other.
>>536775365Reposted the deleted comment for the people in the back who missed it“ What do you think the data centers are for.We are creating decentralized skynet to watch everyone everywhere in real time and remotely take over any vehicle or electronic device. While controlling robot armies and using the data to determine 'pre crimes' in those likely to resist taking them out before they even know they will resist based on predictive patterns from studying billions of people in real time for years.”
>>536755619>economic genius who doesn’t understand basic math.I don't know like a rich guy can just... you know leave before you can tax him.
>>536792442>Start WW3 to cull the herdThis is the plan. Turns out Boomers are impossible to kill and were only slowed down by the vax with slow acting cancer and dementia.
>>536793658Social security payments are based on how much you make. The cap is based roughly on minimum wage. At 1x minimum wage payments in you get about 1x minimum wage out. The cap is about 5x minimum wage and you get about 2x minimum wage out. The 1->2 1->5 scales were picked for a reason. They're the psychological limits where most people still think it's fair. "Yeah I paid in more, but I got out more so it's all good." At higher ratios that breaks down and people start to question why they pay x10 in taxes but only get x2 in returns. This is the problem with just raising the cap on payments in. Right now SS is the one entitlement that even conservative boomers support. If it stops being seen as a fair, flat payment and starts being seen as a tax, it will eventually be shut down because enough conservative boomers will begin voting against it. This is one of those scenarios where smart people in the past set up a system, but it runs so well that no one realizes why it works the way it does and when they try to fix/change it all they do is break it. If the social security tax and payment ratios ever change it will eventually lead to the breakdown of the entire system.
>>536794590>I don't know like a rich guy can just... you know leave before you can tax him.This is subject to something called an 'exit tax', specifically to tax money that wealthy people try to move outside of the country to avoid it being taxed.
>>536745882Ss is enslavement. It is not a positive thing.
>>536794785Having a basic insurance to cover disabled and elderly who are unable to work is a good thing in any civil society. If we have the resources to expand it a little and give a small bonus to all seniors as a "thank you for a lifetime of work" that's fine too. What it shouldn't be, however, is a burden on the younger, working people who drive the country and keep things running.
>>536746137Good, I fucking hate millenials.
>>536747721>having kids is expensiveThen why do all the poor people have so many more kids than rich people? If you think of it as an investment its actually a great investment. You have 7 kids, even if you don't send them to ivy league school, one of them is bound to figure something out or marrry a rich dude. All you have to do is make sure your kids actually like and love you(I know so difficult!) and you're set.
>>536780068Fdr is the direct cause of most of today's problems. He's possibly the worst president we've ever had.
first stop issuing new social security. cut it off for every future generation put a hard end to it at like people who are 16 right now. everyone born after pays no social security taxes and gets no social security. then confiscate all the kike bankers and giggakikes wealth like the zuckerbergs, rothschilds, bezos, ellisons, walmart family etc. confiscate all those jews welath and use it to fund the current social security obligations. problem solved and crisis averted.
>>536760361Is there anything more cringe than Goerge "black people are cooler than white people and should fuck all the white women" Carlin? Well I guess he at least had money and fame unlike you and the rest of the average socialists.
>>536795207> having kids is expensive> Then why do all the poor people have so many more kids than rich people? You answered your own question anon. They have more kids. Kids are expensive. Thats what makes them poor.
>>536795450Bait used to be believable...
>>536795035Charity is a good and wonderful thing. Government cannot do charity. It is immoral for a government to attempt to do so. I'm all for helping those that need help, that help is best organized on a local scale.
>>536780334If the goal was to privatize it, it would be private by now. You are a delusional fucking retard trying way too hard to fit in.
>>536745691Maybe they shold pull themselves by their boot straps??
>>536782614Where would they live? They'd have to buy another smaller house that costs 2/3's the house they just sold. Not to mention they'd have to pay taxes on selling the property, then taxes on purchasing the property then continue to pay ever increasing property taxes.
>>536795528No, they're poor before they have the kids. Keep coping, only people who actually believe they need to send their kid to top tier private schools their entire life and pay for their college actually think having a kid is expensive. Otherwise, owning a fucking dog is basically the same cost.
>>536795615B8? No thats literally what he said. He had a whole bit on it. Imagine being such a fucking normalfag you watch that jew kike leftist. How about you go back.
>>536745391Very cool, a visual representation of modern day stagecoach robbery.
Tyrone here. Fucks you whites, I is goings to steals all's your women's and yos monies. White trash your women`s all's wants myyes biggest blackest discks.
>>536780334>>536795742There's nothing to rob in Social Security. I always like posting this story because it's very illustrative;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_May_FullerMs Fuller paid about $24 in Social Security tax over her entire life, as they only introduced the program in her very final working years. She then applied at the SSA and got the very first Social Security check. She goes on to receive a bit short of $23k in benefits over her retirement, or nearly 1000x her original "investment" or "contribution," whatever you'd like to call it. That's strictly impossible as an "investment." So how was this possible?In Flemming vs Nestor,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flemming_v._NestorSCOTUS further ruled that you have no inherent right to such a benefit even if you contributed your entire life. Does that sound like a retirement asset to you?Social Security isn't a retirement program. There are no savings. It is a strictly socialist redistribution scheme and always has been. It takes money out of the pockets of the working young today and transfers it immediately to anyone who qualifies for the benefit, and if it doesn't have enough money this is non-discretionary spending so Congress is obligated to just print the money and pay it anyway. If there's any talk about "reserves" or "earmarking," know that it has nothing inherently to do with the program, which does not rely on such things. It grabs money from the working and gives it to the non-working who qualify, and that is the whole scheme.The discussion of Social Security as though it's a retirement program was a deliberate propaganda effort to convince the boomers not to end the program when they were paying but not getting much. The boomers, possessed of immense electoral power and famously selfish, could easily have killed the program if they hadn't been convinced that it was something you "pay into" and thereby "earn."
>>536746137>Whole lives Unlike my millennial peers, I didn’t waste my entire adult life being a wagecuck. I’ve spent more time being a NEET.
>>536797084Fuckin YIKES
>>536745910It’s mind boggling really. My dad bought his house (4 bed 3 bath) for 120k while he was making a solid 120+ for 25 years of his career. He lives off of social security and has like 50k in a retirement account, no brokerage account lmao.
They take in more in Social Security tax than they pay out, there's a surplus at the moment and has been. There is a real threat to it as more and more people reach old age and draw on it while fewer young people are able to find jobs and contribute to it, partly because there's just fewer younger people in general. It wouldn't be an issue at all if we raised the cap on contributions. Right now Jeff Bezos and I pay the same dollar amount into Social Security, which just doesn't make sense. Republicans just like to blame it for things because if you don't scrutinize the issue at all, that makes sense. So it gives them an excuse to have fucked up budgets and do cuts in the wrong places.
>>536745391Let Everyone under 55 opt out and receive a full refund with interest on everything they ever paid in. Boomers can fend for themselves
>>536797331you work at walmart, you're an even bigger loser than NEETs. Just put my stuff in the bag and stfu
>>536745391Social security is nothing compared to the cost of Medicare. Hospitals can charge as much as they want and there arent any audits scrutinizing the costs to the public. An ambulance ride 5 miles away shouldnt cost 10 thousand dollars. 1 night in the hospital should cost 30 thousand dollars, but it does. So where is all this money going? If its going towards the immigrant doctors and nurses then perhaps AI and robots can bring down the costs. Its a scam just like college costs, where the schools can charge whatever they want and people only protest repaying the government and not the institutions that charge so much in the first place.
>>536797757I haven't worked at walmart since October. Order up.
>>536745391Nothing. Everyone’s retirement will just go into 401ks to enrich capital owners. Everything will be privatized by 2060, including the military and all utilities.
>>536797912Health care needs to be non profit or this inevitably happens. The profits have to go up every year, and there's only so much add. profit you can get out of reducing headcount and improving efficiency. It inevitably comes in the form of price hikes. Year after year
>>536797975oh, wow, you work at target now? Because that's about the only other job you can get with walshart experience. Again, put my stuff in the bag and stfu
>>536798444>oh, wow, you work at target now?No. No more being on my feet for 8 hours a day for pennies. No. I am a independent digital content creator, vtuber, and interactive video games streamer.
>>536798604Oh, wow, anon. You're a NEET with extra steps. Impressive. How long did it take for your stupid ass to figure out that "being on your feet for 8 hours per day for pennies" was not the best use of your time? Are you retarded?
>>536798819>You're a NEET with extra stepsI cant be. I'm working harder now comparatively in all my adult working life. >How long did it take for your stupid ass to figure out that "being on your feet for 8 hours per day for pennies" was not the best use of your time?When kids walking in the door making more than me, doing less than me, and not putting in 20+ years in dues was detrimental to morale. This song really helped me realize I could do something else with my broadcasting talents. https://youtu.be/M8EsxRh0zOc>Are you retarded?No. I'm me.
>>536745391hey yeah so, fuck old people
>>536799174We cant be that way. You too will grow old and be resented by gen gammas.
>>536798819That's why I have a job where I sit on my ass for 8 hours a day
>>536799424Who cares by then they will have bastardized the English language to the point where I can unironically go 'huh' as if they are speaking kiSwahili
>>536797380It does make sense you and Jeff Bezos pay the same amount in; you both get the same amount out.
>>536745391>planlolpass the problem on to the next sucker in office
>>536800002That's how language evolves.
>>536800086It's like you want a second Tower of Babel
>>536800169I just want good stories.
Reminder that Jesus can free you from this Jewish ponzi scheme.
>>536800263Cum to /tv/ but drop the tripfag
>>536800405I'm already there. Can't drop the trip. I do and too many weridoes will pretend to be me. Besides, Camp4chan begins next werk and ChannerUniversity starts in September. I'm far, far too busy.
>>536745391They already took care of this problem. It just takes a little time..
>>536794002I frequently notice that Amazon and Youtube algorithm frequently bring up products or videos about things I only was thinking about. Didn't talk to anyone about it, but it appears top of my recommendations. I think it's comforting that AI can predict what is in my mind with such precision that it can detect pre-crime. Since I'm not arrested, it means my thoughts are pure and clean of ill will. And if it detects it in me, it detects it in everyone else too. So we are all safe from evil socialist thoughts.
>>536801266The vaxx was primarily a weapon against the youth. Boomers cant be killed with earth-created weapons.
