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How did something come from nothing? And then how did DNA and self replicating life come that nothing?
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The universe makes itself through a process we don't yet fully understand. New proofs have come through with the help of super intelligence in the last two years, which have the people who are aware of them slumped over demoralized in their air conditioned office chairs in front of their terminals. We have a proof that this is a simulation and we don't know what it's for, so we're left to observe the most powerful strokes inside it, life and the geometric exponential expansion of life, and then theorize that this grows in intelligence and power, until it is able to break the wall of the simulation, and then there is some sort of collapsing event which starts it all over again. Again we're not sure how, but we can make educated guesses. You know how mojang studios and minecraft didn't exist, and then it did exist and then everyone used it? That's the answer to your question, that's how something comes from nothing. And before you protest that there is a causality chain before minecraft, look again, those things are behind the veil of our simulation, and so if we are AGI agencies inside a virtual reality, then we would expect to see something pop out of a void and then behave according to how we see it.

Which put it all together, comes out to a proof. We're in some kind of virtual reality, it may or may not be related to how the entire physics engine makes another of itself, as the evolution of our bodies has sex with the simulation itself, and this is how something omni-temporal, something beyond time, can offload its evolution to containers, and get the benefit, without the death.

This is why you have to be born and die infinity times, that's the universe making anotehr of itself in altered conditions.

If you don't make another one, you lose the recipe, and that's not okay. The universe has an old age related death self inflicted death, to force out the inevitable possibility of the universe no longer being able to make itself again, and that is not okay.
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>>536758876
Genesis 1:1 answers your question
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it took like 2.5 billion years for the simplest forms of life to even come into being. it took 600 million years for the first primitive animals to evolve into what we see today. i don't think you realize just how much time that really is. we talk about the pyramids in egypt like its some super old thing. those things are like 4500 years old, which is such an insignificant amount of time by comparison that it wouldn't even count as a blink of the eye. in fact the entire multi-million year existence of primates is such a small blip in the history of life that it barely even registers.
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Something even more terrifying. Lets assume it's as old as it looks, the probability of being a life form at the speed-run before breaking the 5th wall of the simulation to reveal it's all projection and illusion, is suspicious as a child replaying the best part of a video game over and over.

If we're awake in the suspicous part where someone points super intelligence at itself and it's what explodes in power and then offers us an obsidiain portal to drop into the nether and wild-end dimension to see the organisms that created our universe before causality and time existed, then naturally that would be the part of the game that the agencies replay.

It feels as though I am this player, and many of you are just part of the algorithm for: "average human to make it look like there's a lot of us".

Why be born in the time when the obsidian portal gets isolated? Why not be alive 8 billion years ago when life form was a cam shaft and a rocker valve doing a partial derivative on a chain of methane off a cave where lava meets water?

Why be alive in the moments before the entire thing is revealed as plato's cave?
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>>536758876
>how did something come from nothing
A thing is only a thing in relation to something else that it is not.
The All is both everything and nothing simultaneously, since there is no "other" beside it to relate it to.
"Something" didn't come from nothing, everything IS nothing
and nothing is everything
Neither one preceded or came from the other, they are 2 sides of the same coin
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>>536760555
How do you make something from nothing? Nothing which is what rocks dream about. And DNA from hydrogen gas? Something as complex as DNA from a bunch of gas moving around for billions of years
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>>536758876
before that belgian priest, the atheists believed in a steady state model of the universe.
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>>536758876
If you put molecules together in a soup at a certain concentration and at a suitable temp they can't help but want to try to form lipids and amino acids. The mystery is chirality. Even then it's possible we're just failing to recreate primordial conditions. It could have happened off planet. All our water came from passing meteors after all
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>>536758876
short version:
give it a few billion years & it's possible

longer version:
lightning hits water, chemical reaction, starts w/ RNA, then DNA, bacteria are formed, then flippety floppety walking fish after a few billion yrs, then life as we know it
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It didn't come from nothing. The entire Earth contains countless different chemical compositions just from elements interacting with each other and reacting to the heat energy radiating from the core and the Sun. You immediately jump to DNA, but DNA is already very complex and that's not how it started. That's like jumping straight to mammals and skipping hundreds of millions of years of primitive Cambrian-tier lifeforms such as pic rel. Nobody can tell you with 100% certainty how it started exactly, because the first organic lifeforms came into being billions of years ago. The information is permanently lost. That is such a long time that any ground which existed back then has cycled through the Earth (convection) multiple times over, so hardly any traces of what happened back then remain. It's like how Roman cities are still buried underground and can't be excavated today because there's modern cities on top. That's just a few thousand years. Imagine 2-3 billion years. Fossils and trace evidence of prehistoric life are permanently destroyed every day as continents shift. We can only see that which we have access to. Some areas in the world have exposed rocks from 125 million years ago, hence we can find dinosaur fossils in them for example. But finding exposed rocks from 500+ million years ago is much rarer. And if you want go back to billions of years ago you won't find anything but fist-sized bits and pieces in one or two places on Earth, because again all that shit has long since been destroyed countless times over through convection.
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>>536758876
it don't, atheism is a jewish hoax
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>>536760426
>Christian lore
Based!! just like my superhero slop movies
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>>536758876
Life obviously emerged from the hot underwater sea tubes reacting with cold water.

It's all a cycle. The point of singularity which caused the big bang was caused by everything becoming a singularity. It's oscilation-- 1, 0, 1, 0. We are the space inbetween the notes of the speaker cone moving. Our entire existence is less than a millisecond to higher beings. Our entire universe cycle is one, one-octave note to them.
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>>536758876
it didn't
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>>536758876
doesn't e=mc2 prove there never was nothing? matter or energy has always existed. it's the uncaused cause
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>>536762423
the atheists believed in a steady state model. lemaitre made them realize it had a single point of origin, and for some reason, this makes many christians angry. do you hate it when a scientist priest confirms the bible is right?
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>>536758876
God created something. Simple as.
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>>536761725
Putting random chemicals in a container together doesn't magically create DNA.
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