During Europe's middle ages it normal in towns to shit in buckets and then throw the content out of the window, same with the (arguably organic) garbage. Wealthier towns had small streams of water build into the street grid to wash away the logs. Freiburg im Breisgau still has these "Bächle" called shit streams in the old town as tourist attraction (totally annoying when drunk).The first big milestone was the introduction of a law in Stuttgart in 1492 requiring residents to sweep the street in front of their house. The first "Kehrwoche" law literally mentions "soil" as in shit. Next milestone was in 1739 when Kassel and Vienna started building early sewer systems. First full blown sewer system on the European continent was built soon after in Hamburg.Bottom line: Took Europeans centuries to fix this and it makes me wonder how long India will need to fix their soiling issue. Also fascinating how they appear to be in a similar state of mind like the Arab world compared to historic Europe. Difference is that Arabs live through a similar phase of religious fervor as Europe did in the 15th century (see Schafarewitsch).
>>536785862it might help if India also didn't have a billion people
>>536785862>small streams of water build into the street grid to wash away the logsKnowing Germans, at least for some this would be like a free sushi treadmill.
Fun fact: cities were all but impossible in Europe for over 1000 years due to the closing down of Roman public toilets, which were co-ed and regarded as unChristian. Also the aqueducts supplying water to them were never repaired so they rotted away like Victorian infrastructure in Africa, untended by German barbarian niggers. Either way, the result was that cities because filty mortality sinks where the sewer was the street. For over 1000 years, cities could not maintain their population but required a constant influx from the countryside due to cityfags dying. This is why the larges citites in Europe in 1026AD (Pairs, Naples) were maybe 20k people max.
>>536786022> a billion peopleTechnically, this should help India, because it allows for very large scales. You can mass produce components and streamline processes for copy+past in different towns.Germany's sewer systems could only be built at the beginning of industrialization when they had steam engines for excavation and pumps.
>>536786161>because filty mortality*became
>>536786156Preferrably from Russian prostitutes. It's a blast.
>>536785862>During Europe's middle ages it normal in towns to shit in buckets and then throw the content out of the window,while in india they just shit in the open with their butts exposed for everyone to seeits mentality of a caveman sukdeep
>>536786313>with their butts exposed for everyone to seeShitting used to be a social occasion.(Not judging)
>>536786313Nah, they had the same shit in Europe. Even the nobles casually shit all over the Versailles palace. Europeans are just Indians with pale skin and a bit more wealth.
>>536785862True, but you're forgetting three things1. India is suposedly supposed to be a developed country with "skilled labor"2. India has infinitely more people per square foot, which means infinitely more poop3. When they come to western countries, with working modern plumbing, many still do it in streets clearly not made for shitting inSo while it's a perfectly understandable practice from a historical perspective, that probably means thaf Indians should fix their country before flooding into other countries that have already fixed this.And it really really sheds light on how blatantly false the "highly skilled genius megabrain labor force that will save the economy and technology and so on" claim is.
>>536786161> Either way, the result was that cities because filty mortality sinks where the sewer was the street. For over 1000 years, cities could not maintain their population but required a constant influx from the countryside due to cityfags dying. This is why the larges citites in Europe in 1026AD (Pairs, Naples) were maybe 20k people max.Totally. We can't imagine how smelly big town life must have been (well, maybe a vacation in Mumbai might help). The early Romanic churches etc were a cheap attempt in copying Roman architecture. They really lost a lot and it took multi generations to turn the forest swamp into something worth while. Only small towns was a plus, though. No mass society and therefore no communist BS. Paris was the historic hotbed for Communist thuggery because of its large population in combination with sucking out the wealth from the entire country. I would wish the urban centers would vanish again. No town needs more than 50k inhabitants.
>>536786383It's healthier for mankind like this. You don't want to be the fat disgusting animal who almost dies every time you go take a shit. Not having social shitting enabled everyone to become fat and repulsive.
>>536786677Hernan Cortez's men were astonished by Tenochtitlan, not only because of its scale compared to European cities, but also how clean it was. They had never seen anything like it.
>>536785862>shit in buckets and then throw the content out of the windowThey didn't do that. You're probably thinking of that picture from the book "Das Narrenschiff" which was some satirical piece on crazy people.They didn't need a crazy sewer system, because they had people who collected the sewage as it was used as fertilizer or urine to tan hides etc.Google "Gassenkehrer" or "Kloakenfeger".About the Bächle, that's not what they were meant for. Some people did it, but it was forbidden in the 16th century.Also the arabs never stopped. They tried to modernize briefly but returned to their retarded shit.
>>536785862Stuttgart in year fourteen hundred and ninety two,when the krauts learned to sweep the poo
>>536786656India's economy is comparable to France to day. This means around 70 million of the 1.4 billion population lives a 1st world lifestyle. When you consider that only around 20% in France are working and the rest is grifting, you end up with 2.5% of Indians being competitive on a global scale. So, there are Indians who can perform on the highest level, but obviously a good portion of them scammed themselves into whatever position they cheated themselves into. Then again, I kind of understand those 2.5% Indians. Just imagine having to deal with 40 morons on average, before encountering another decent person.The scale and density of India should be a massive advantage, because of scales. They could mass produce and streamline everything needed for sewer systems. At such large scales it wouldn't really be expensive. China shows how you do that. But then again, China is a technofascist dictatorship capable of suppressing the worst of Chinaman izzat.
>>536785862Gives a whole new meaning to 5fdeathpunch wash it all away. Shit flows downhill. Mountain people laugh at the fks in the delta
>>536785862Fun fact:Bronze age Indus valley civilization knew water-flush toilets. Now it is forgotten technology.
>>536786156>Knowing GermansYou don't know Germans
>>536785862just keep dying for israel, ok? european economy will crash into oblivion, and then you die in ukraine for jewlensky. simple as. no exceptions.
>>536786846> TenochtitlanThe Aztecs were fullblown satanists who saw virtue in taking slaves and brutalize them. I think slavery might have played a major role in their ability to keep things clean (same with Rome and Egypt etc). You either have power machines, or you have to do it by hand - well, or you whip someone else to do it for you.
>>536787336and as the sound of drones contsantly hoovering over you and you haven't sleep for weeks, just keep muttering how immigrants did this to you and how you hate tyrone. it's ok. release the hate because tyrone is keeping your women warm and pregnant. y-chromosome collapse is real
>>536787060Yeah they could produce things at scale, but they don't.It is not at all rare to find large populations with no interest in mass manufacturing because the labor of individuals is too exhorbant sometimes compared to the work output of machines. But nobody has reason to build machines, because the annual domestic wealth in the country is stretched too thin by the massive population anyways. You could make an entire argument for the lack of interest in sanitation products and infrastructure manufacturing being just because of average incentives and population density and land use and completely devoid of a racial component but it wouldn't change anything, because for now, on their current course, India will remain this way for the forseeable future.
>>536787352of course euroaches can't comprehend the idea of being individually clean and taking care of your own trash because you're such delicate, fragile creatures lmao no wonder you died for jew hitler
>>536787225But the media said those crazy Germans like to be shit on and eat shit?
>>536785862Do you see how demoralized you guys are after just a few decades of having foreign invasion and leaders that hate you?We're recovering from centuries of that.China called it the century of humiliation, but their mainland never got taken over until the commies came to power and did more damage than a foreign occupation. Literally every single issue/topic that western politics cry about is 10x as intense here. That's why we can easily understand your politics and societies but you can't grok ours. You can't even get the EU on the same page, imagine having the EU x 5, decades of EU type leaders, and previous centuries of rulers trying to wipe your out spiritually and culturally. You think you're mad about your media and education systems? Or invasions and minority appeasement and foreign nations messing with your internal affairs? Liberals making their entire identity by shitting on anything that is special or worth taking pride in about the local people and culture? If you were a based indian looking at our systems you'd have an aneurysm. Bad times strong men etc etc
>>536787453>on their current course, India will remain this way for the forseeable future.Yeah, it's really sad. No idea about their culture and what drives them (not that ethnology departments were any use in finding out). We still should all hope they get their (sic!) shit together in time. Otherwise the brainlet drain into the West won't stop.
>>536787411>>536787486Piss off, nigger!
>>536785862Indian gutters work as intended, no need to improve anything, stop with the colonialism.
>>536785862Jew myth. Romans had brought plumbing rather early on to most of western Europe.
>>536785862go back to india, poojet.europe didn't had this problem, it was a problem cause by kikes and their slave cult, christcuckery.Kys.
>>536787595Nobody is demoralized, everyone is pissed off. We are not the same simian palm-walker.
>>536785862>how long India will need to fix their soiling issue.They never willTheir IQ is too low
>>536786161>>536786677But, but, but I thought the Dark Ages in Western Europe never happened...
>>536787352I never said the Aztecs were good; I said their imperial capitol was vast and very clean compared to European cities of the time, which were filthy and also dense and tiny to fit behind city walls. That's why Cortez's men were so shocked by Tenochtitlan: it was a sprawling metropolis like ancient Rome, and something that hadn't existed in Europe for 1000 years outside Constantinople.
>>536787893Why would you think such a stupid thing as that?
>>536786483Retard. They had portable toilets stationed around the palace.>>536786161Another fucking idiot.They couldn't maintain it, because feeding that many people in one place is extremely hard and there was a lot of work outside of cities.Cities grew once farming improved in the late middle ages, making it much more productive. That also marks the end of the middle ages and the beginning of the early modern period. Less people were needed, so they started doing other stuff, like arts and craft.Rome was a big city because they had centuries old, highly organized systems that could support all of this. After that, Europe was plagued by a million (((setbacks))) like the plague, mudslimes, mongols, brother wars and so on.
Just reading the thread and the board/social media in general just makes it obvious that the people online don't know anything about what they're discussing and are completely out of date for any recent developments.I'm not going to provide that information because informing enemies is a dumb idea.it's just going to be that same thing where suddenly everyone started barking at china around 10 years ago then started calling them "based" when it was obvious that this was a superpower that wasn't going away. And yet you still get the idiots talking about "about to collapse" or tofu dreg and slave labour and uyghers whatever talking point, it's hard to tell how many are elgin and how many are just idiots. It's not easy to keep up with everything going on in the world, but I'll say that the /pol/ view of India is a solid hard decade behind reality just like it's been with china. It won't catch up because there's very little intellectual curiosity in this space, it's mostly a place to vent and be shitty and be always behind the curve/reactionary while pretending to be ahead of it.If /pol/ is counter culture (which is all it ever has been, 2008 oldfag), I fully expect pro India threads in less than 2 years
>>536787595thats all well and goodnow kindly fuck off and stay in your containment subcontinent.
>>536788015>because feeding that many people in one place is extremely hardNo, feeding a million people isn't the main challenge. It's dealing with what comes out the other end of a million people every day. Rome existed because of its sewer system. Once that failed, the street became the sewer and the city became a disease trap and ghost town.
>>536788151We will not be on the same internet in 2 years, anon.
>>536788015Versallies shitting is a very well-documented fact. They did have chamber pots, but only around 300 for 10,000-15,000 people, so that was not nearly enough. Elizabeth Charlotte, a German princcess even complained about this in letter home, saying people were relieving themselves everywhere and did not mind women, men, boys and girls watching.
>>536787595>We're recovering from centuries of that.What stops you from setting up a private for-profit garbage collection system for the place you live and use the garbage to produce electricity?Garbage incineration plants have already been invented. It's not rocket science. You can simply buy one. I'm sure the German gvt will love to give you a loan for that.
>>536787867you're demoralized, we understand your psyche but you can't understand ours. You're impotently demoralized, which you try to izzat/face-save max by showing anger in no particular direction to no particular effect. Your current president is the embodiment of that directionless angst. Indians are pissed off too but we didn't self-immolate as certain parts of your populations do as a reaction to having a complex situation but not enough brains, patience, faith in countrymen and faith in God to maintain composure. You're not even aware that maybe over 30% of this board is lurking indians that do not post. We just watch, instead of spilling our beans all over the internet or burning a few cars every 6-12 monthsWe're very happy that your attention is on the Indian spergs, It's better that you think that's representative of us. Just like it was good for the chinese for you to think they produce shit until suddenly everything is chinese made. Then you got angry for a bit before shutting up.I'm not speaking just as an indian by the way. I would be watching regardless of ethnicity. It's very clear the US population isn't going to be top dog and there's 0% x 0% chance they ever reclaim that position. So just watching the global chess game that NPCs don't even know they're being used in, and delighting in the fog of war which is very assymetrical
>>536785862Isn't it funny how the dark ages totally never existed bro, and yet the Romans didn't live like this over a thousand years before these kike-worshiping savages.
>>536785862Something that people don't really point out is how much India will be affected by climate change. Studies show that rising temperature means loss of productivity for workers.So the paradox is that if India wants to industrialize, it's going to make their heat problems much worse.
>>536788151> I fully expect pro India threads in less than 2 yearsIt may surprise you, but this is a pro India thread. Your izzat prevents you from seeing this.
>>536788729>You're not even aware that maybe over 30% of this board is lurking indians that do not post. We just watchvery cuck pilled
Random indian above doesn't understand what it feels like not having to check the color of your hands when you wake up. The thankfulness and bliss. Amen.
>>536788778>climate change.lmao, lol
>>536788778However, they need industrial growth. Their growth thus far has mainly been from a small minority of ultra high and medium high paying service jobs (that will be soon canibalilzed by AI). It's a very slim section of the population. The majority of the people work either in agriculture, relatively unproductive small businesses or in short term jobs off the books.
>>536788778That's complete bullshit.1) Climate change isn't real2) If climate change was real, the miniscule changes wouldn't be relevant3) Air conditioning was invented 100 years ago and made even Florida habitable.FLORIDA
>>536788151>>536788729So you're telling me we're being watched by other cuckboy indians? As in they're in the cuck chair or the cuck closet, watching gay indians like me, get their steam going over throbbing white cocks and love jihadis? Unhhhhhhh that's soooooo fucking hot you have no idea. It's a no-touch bussy denial rule for indiasisters, you've said it yourself
>>536788918But that will invite another set of problem because of the agricultural issues associated with a warming world including water scarcity and soil degradation.>>536788934It's already happening. The heatwaves are getting more intense.
>>536788151Although I do agree India will become a very significant player in the coming years, its quite far-fetched to compare it to China. Chinese have always enjoyed far more untiy than India and have been capable of organizing themselves into a great empire. India historcally has only recently been unified and its more or less an artificial union that is hard to force to function efficiently. But the base idea is correct - while people make fun of India, it is steadily recovering and the mockery mostly comes from whites witnessing the world change around them and not in their favour and yet being unable to reverse it. This is just them coping really.
>>536788934>>536788901Notice that it's the brown hellholes that are "most at risk", you know why?>IndiaMassive population boom and subsistence agriculture turning the land into a brown desert>AfricaSame as above, massive desertification>South americaCutting down their forests to graze cattle on, which later get turned into farmlandUhhhh OOPS the places "at risk" from climate change are all simultaneously doing the most retarded farming and stewardship in the world, while the white world just lives like normal. Climate change is absolutely real when you cut down forests and cause droughts, people act like a few billion browns doing retard farming wouldn't hurt the world but it does, primarily hurting their hot shitholes though.
>>536788918And reminder that India's manufacturing sector is declining.
>>536788885You chose the faggot memeflag for a reason though. Rabbit god devotee are you little Zhou?
>>536786161>cities were all but impossible in Europe for over 1000 years due to the closing down of Roman public toilets, which were co-ed and regarded as unChristianA diploma from reddit university? Check.Retarded? Check.
>>536789242>climate changelmao, you said it again lol
>>536788179you get europe, and that's if you're not retarded enough to lose it. You managed to fuckup global undisputed superpower status while everyone else was knocked out in less than 70 years, an absolute speedrun for an empire, so I don't know how you'll manage to fuck yourselves up and lose the motherland/fatherland. But I'm watching it with popcorn. North/South America and Oceania belong to nobody>>536788687You're not wrong. I'm sure if someone put you in charge of Germany you could fix shit in a few months if you had an iron fist (lolno. politics is hard job despite what people think). Could you fix the whole EU? Would they let you, or would they start calling you a german painter for trying to clean things up, wipe out old systems and make the trains run on time? Things are being done here to correct issues. China did go from shithole to where it is very quickly. I'm very critical of government always but they're moving fast here, you'd cum in your pants as a german if you were watching policy, stripping through of bureaucracy, and on-the-ground results here in the past 10 years. We're just as pissed off and disgusted by the trash situation, we just had 3x the population of the EU being kept deliberately undeveloped by the exact type of politicians you want to lynch after just a few decades in europe. In a few decades you'll want to come here to enjoy. And you'll be welcomed, because that's our culturet. living in a refugee and migrant situation 40x anything any western country is crying about
>>536789300>Brown people rip down the forests and use their shitty medieval farming practices to turn the place into a desertYes, climate change.
>>536789256It's true and well documented Bangladesh bro. David Hume wrote a famous essay criticizing the demographic figures of the Roman Empire because he didn't see how such large cities were possible given the enormous amout of shit they produced. Edinburgh in Hume's day was maybe 15k people and reeked of piss and shit like everywhere else.
>>536786161A lot of people don't realize this but the city of Rome didn't reclaim its pre-christian population size until the 1930s. This is how badly chrigger barbarians fucked up Europe.
>>536789341Why do you type up so much bro? All the jeet hate shit here is spammed by chinks and muslims to deflect from their own shit and mass emigration to the West. Surely you realize that right? So why do you take it seriously?
>>536785862They will street shit less when they become wealthier. I've seen endless footage of Chinese tourists street shitting and being obnoxious in Japan and south Korea ten years ago, though now this footage has mysteriously disappeared.
>>536789250But even though their manufacturing output is quite low (3% of global industrial output), they still have some of the most polluted cities in the world. So if India were to actually industrialize, it would drastically intensify pollution, making health problems much worse than it already is. Not to mention pollution lowers IQ. Geographically, the Himalaya Mountains also traps smog and pollution in northern India where over half of the population lives.Picrel is the 50 most polluted cities in the world in 2025. The next 50 cities look similar.https://www.aqi.in/in/world-most-polluted-cities
>>536787795Yes and then they allowed it to decay, did you not fucking read? Germanics are essentially Africans.
>>536789426It had nothing to do with Christianity fedora tipper. It had to do with the lack of maintenence on basic sewer and aqueduct infrastructure. The public co-ed toilets were seen as unchristian, but they didn't fail for that reason but because their plumbing was shot and never fixed.
>>536786677A large part of Paris and London in the early XX century still featured chamber pots and carts transporting human shit out of the city. Orwell's "Down and Out in Paris and London".And keep in mind the horse carts and carriages were still a widely used mean of transport. It adds tons of horse shit to the equation.It took several centuries since the times of ancient Rome (and it was only 1 city) to get proper plumbing in highly developed areas.
>>536788349What are you talking about? That's not the reason why Rome broke down.That was the consequence of allowing barbarians to larp as roman citizen. Basically mass migrations.>>536788438Yes, she was complaining about workers, visitors and such. Not royalty like you first said, you doublenigger.
>>536785862There is a big difference, Indians actually like living among filth.
>>536789542Most roman cities had plumbing, at least in the good years of the republic and empire, not just Rome.
>>536788857the same way westerners projected "Saving face" onto chinese to cover up how western discussions are all about saving face, it's the same thing with izzat. You're the only ones concerned about that in the context that you use it. You don't understand the word and I can't explain it to you because the actual meaning is alien to your psyche, that's the reason it never landed as an insult. It doesn't mean anything to this region the way that it's usedBut thank for you the pro India thread, I'm pro germany in the way that I'm just pro not having normal people have their shit fucked up by incompetent sociopathic leaders>>536788874makes my dick twitch>>536789052sober up>>536789250the thing that will never be fixed about some of you people (and this exists everywhere) is that you'll hate the media for being liars and narrative pushers but you'll deepthroat them the moment they say something you like. It's not worth discussing the situation at hand with people whose hands are always on their dick about a certain desire
>>536789572>Not royalty like you first saidOf course kings and queens there did not shit in corridors. But lesser nobility did profoundly.
>>536789341> put you in charge of Germany you could fix shit in a few months if you had an iron fist (lolno. politics is hard job despite what people think). Could you fix the whole EU?> we just had 3x the population of the EUYou keep drifting off and only look at the big picture, which is abstract and obviously the fewest have influence on.What makes Europe so strong (at least in the past, it's eroding) is the mentality of strict subsidiarity. The rule is to first clean your own garden, before starting to look elsewhere. That's literally a German phrase. Jordan Peterson coined it in a different context as clean your room.What you are displaying here is learned helplessness. Nobody will help you, only you yourself can help you. You must do the first step and then the other next 20 steps. Only then will someone take an interest in you and start helping you, because they hope that you will help them.This is the core difference between an Indian mind and a Western mind. We want to fix stuff ourselves, but we are stopped by red tape all over the place. You on the other hand have irrelevant red tape, but think red tape is necessary for you to fix your problems.This is a mind virus and you must get rid of it. Otherwise you will forever live in a shithole.
>>536789464Because I'm an oldfag and these boards actually used to be about typing a lot and discussing things, I realize I'm a dinosaur in that regard and 140 character zingermaxxing is just how shit goes now.I come to this board for discussion, lord knows its absolutely shit-tier as a news aggregator like it was at least good for a few years ago, and the "non-mainstream but still good information" train left a decade ago
>>536789671Didn't Russia have cholera outbreaks all the way into the 20th century due to open sewer?
>>536789413The stench of English towns was documented all right and I'm not interested how Hume imagined ancient Rome and how much of his work was a satire at British government being unable to remove horse shit from the main street.>Roman public toilets>co-ed >closed for 1000 years because Christianity>cities were impossible because of thatMaybe you could elaborate on that part. Not that the rest of your post is any better, but it's the most juicy part.
>>536789638> Israel flag detectedlol
>>536789930>I come to this board for discussion,That ended sometime in 2022, probably when the war in Ukraine started. It was already a downward spiral well before that, but that was the year /pol/ became just a BRICShillfarm spam board. Now traffic is down massively because anons left for X and all that's left here are shitskins spamming their daily quotas to an empty chamber. It's funny.
>>536790018Edinburgh is in Scotland. Stopped reading there.
>>536789341India's' GDP per capita this year fell behind Cambodia and Haiti. It also fell from the 5th largest economy in the world to the 6th largest.
>>536790092Germans cannot into humour
>>536789928>reddit spacing>quoting jordan petersonI'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you just willingly threw out the window unprompted.The second half of what you said is not wrong. You're NOT wrong. At all. But you don't actually understand the region you're talking about. Any Indian would shit themselves laughing talking about the EU has less red tape than India. It's not your duty to know about India and its not my duty to inform you, but you're just terribly and completely uninformed and talking from that place. Which is fine. ButPlease go find some Indian over 30-40 and say "ynow the easy thing about fixing Indias issues would be the lack of red tape" and their brain will blank for a moment before they probably fail to describe what things have been like. But, it's improving. Red tape is being cut where needed, and I hope you can do that too. Though not everywhere, I do admire the EUs strict ability to apply standards. Not as good at the Chicoms but at least you didn't have to gut your entire culture to accomplish it.
>>536790181Jesus, Iran is on the same tier as Zimbabwe?
>>536789660I posted pure statistics provided from the Indian government about its decline in manufacturing. The fact that you can't be self critical is a broader symptom that extends to your entire society.
>>536790106I actually quit the board for a while and we all know why we need to do that once in a while, but I popped back in because the amount of racist vitrol towards Russians on mainstream platforms was fucked, this was one of the only places that at least had some back and forth and nuance and even a little sympathy for these poor guys on both sides getting gutted. Watching reddit post gore gleefully was a bit of a redpill about where the internet was going, now it does seem like rage-baiting is the default stance. It'll transition to something else eventually, hopefully by then I'm not on the internet>>536790181I don't know if that's nominal or real GDP, most probably nominal. Real GDP is up most definitely. And real-real GDP meaning actual production not services and financial services and broken windows and other tricks is definitely way up.
>>536786161The city near me takes shit and turns it into fertilizer that residents can take. Pretty much the same thing as milorganite. They used to have to pay farmers to collect the sludge and pump it onto farm fields.
>>536790398Does that not prove to you that the stats are retarded oversimplifications/lying through statistics or will you willingly disbelieve your own senses and intuition about the situation?
>>536790092>All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? >Brought peace. >Oh. Peace? Shut up! Jews never changed.
>>536790612>because the amount of racist vitrol towards Russianslmao. It's really funny how much you and Russians simp for each other. Lotta pajeets have gone to Russia for construction work and ended up signing papers in Russian they thought were for that, but were actual mobilization papers and they got sent to Ukraine lmao. It caused a bit of a fracas with Modi, but not really. Indians don't give a shit about each other any more than Russians do, and exporting their people for remittance money is their entire economy so driving Uber in NYC or dying in Ukraine is all the same to Modi.
>>536790147Who cares about Edinburgh? It's not even a glaring example. In 1850 Glasgow was considered the absolute worst city to live in because of bad sanitary conditions and disgusting stench. Let's talk about London instead.>The Great Stink was an event in Central London during July and August 1858 in which the hot weather exacerbated the smell of untreated human waste and industrial effluent that was present on the banks of the River Thames. The problem had been mounting for some years, with an ageing and inadequate sewer system that emptied directly into the Thames. The miasma from the effluent was thought to transmit contagious diseases, and three outbreaks of cholera before the Great Stink were blamed on the ongoing problems with the river.It's XIX century when ye olde city infrastructure became a major problem.
>>536790777You live in Texas don't you? They call it "Texas tea" or something like that yeah?>>536790810No it proves that Iran is extremely poor, probably from being run by a mafia of fanatics who have seized control of most of the economy.
>>536790909Yeah I'm not reading that Bengali bro
>>536785862The big cities in Europe are still covered in shit actually. Nothing changed.
>>536789536It had everything to do with it. Christian apologetics will not win. All you'll accomplish is the extinction of your own species. Stick that fool head of yours in the sand and be gone already. Good riddance.
>>536790810India is fucked because Brahmins betrayed the smithing magician god Tvasthr and so they became obsessed about their priest class ritual and getting your hand dirty and touching metal with your hands became impure. They totally betrayed the spirit of our Aryan ancestors. India will not save itself until they get rid of every single Brahmin fraud. BJP is a brahmin dominated scam btw.
>>536786192I think he meant it doesn't help the overall situation the fact so many indians exist when they shouldn't.
>>536791132asian verbal iq>>536791208I'm not a Christian bro, and boy are you super angry lmao
>>536790895I simp for the ukranians too. There's a lot of nuance to that discussion but I don't care to discuss it with types of people who use political leaders names instead of discussing national level policy, you're just starting with likes/dislikes and ad hominems and generalizations so there's nowhere else to take that discussion. Personally I don't approve of your government using and discarding proxy groups and treating thousands/millions of lives like a scroll-banner last weeks topic. >>536790959or maybe zimbabwe is more wealthy and developed than its given credit for. As I said, a lot of people discussing things online are dredging up decades out of date understandings
>>536786161Retarded jeet cope
>>536791296you've got no idea what you're talking about polandbro, I appreciate you're trying to string words together into something coherent but it's just... you said nothing. And yes I'm strongly aware of the deep esoteric lore you're drunkly mumbling about
>>536785862Whites are extremely obxexxed with India. It's the only interesting thing in 2026. Everything else is boring and meaningless. Indians are the main focus of this life.
> you don't actually understand the region you're talking about. I stated above that Indian mentality is very far away for me. But I believe classic politicians tick the same everywhere. They're presigue addicted opportunists, easy on other people's money and often enough corrupt. It's a dirty little secret, but corrupt politicians are not neccessarily a bad thing as long as they're opportunistic, in for the win-win and leave the bribe in the economy itself. Then a bribe doesn't cause damage, but serves the economy and creates a common interest with better regulations etc. I wrote "classic politican" because we have a 2nd type: It's the hardened ideologue. They replaced opportunism with ideology and you can't bribe them anymore when it's against their ideology. They even start fighting you if you want to do something that may be against their ideology.> laughing talking about the EU has less red tape than India.I wrote "irrelevant red tape", because India's politicians are agnostic so you can bribe them for cheap money.> But, it's improving. Red tape is being cut where needed, and I hope you can do that too.Legal bribes: Make them look good in public; give them access to information; offer them stakes in investments and advisory board seats; buy their property for twice the market price etc. That kind of stuff is rampant in the West.> Though not everywhere, I do admire the EUs strict ability to apply standards. This is terrible! They meddle around in every aspect of economic life. People are more busy filling out forms and adhering to norms than doing their actual work! Just look at the difference between Germany and Switzerland. One has EU regulations, the other one doesn't. Result is 40%+ higher GDP.> Not as good at the Chicoms but at least you didn't have to gut your entire culture to accomplish it.Set up a for profit garbage collection system and turn the garbage into electricity. India's streets are littered with money. Literally!AAAHHH!
>>536790883Few know this but the big trouble with the Jews started when Romans made sex change surgeries illegal and the Jews in Jerusalem mistook it for circumcision.
>>536791132Don't be so racist against migrants, faggot.
>>536790612Nominal GDP actually matters a lot in your case because you need to import a lot of your energy, fertilizer and manufacturing inputs.
>>536790997fag
>>536790398>>536790810It's because Iran was sanctioned from US banks, so basically the global financial system. India isn't.
>>536791296>t. seething Shudra in Poland
>>536786383Wh..w...what would two people shitting next to each other even talk about?
>>536786747No. Sitting toilets did that.Squat toilets are superior
I wish you caan come to Chhattisgarh and see we are civilized not disgusted
>>536788918India also underperforms in agriculture too not just manufacturing. India uses more water in agriculture than China and US and yet has a much lower yield per acre and more people in agriculture. Very little modern irrigation methods like drip irrigation are used in India. So, inefficient use of water, with lesser output per acre and per worker to go along with it..
>>536793070Still would trust an indian crop over an American one that's been swimming in round up
>>536792949> Raipur, ChhattisgarhNothing to see here.https://www.google.com/maps/place/Raipur,+Chhattisgarh,+Indien/@21.2014713,81.6595823,3a,48.9y,274.1h,88.03t
LOL, what a LOL COW.Never change
>>536793147Lol you sure about that? There is major corruption in India's pesticide sector. There are massive counterfeit rings where scammers will repackage industrial waste and sell them to farmers as branded pesticides. Recently, Japan restricted imports of Mangos from India because of excessive pesticide residues in the fruit and the absence of adequate quarantine infrastructure at border checkpoints.By the way, India ranks 180 out of 180 countries for environmental protection indexhttps://epi.yale.edu/epi-results/2022/component/epiSpeaking of agriculture, India ranks worse than North Korea, Sudan, and Angola in the global hunger index.https://www.globalhungerindex.org/ranking.html
>>536791852saar please, it's only one enter-key key here for separating paragraphs. It doesn't detract from what you're saying but I'm a lover of aesthetics and you should please fit into/assimilate to the culture of the board you are migrating toYou are 110% right about politicians and those tendencies, I couldn't agree more. There is however a big difference between politicians playing dirty in their home field but getting things done within the system verses elite class or dynastic politicians willing to ruin things for their constituents because they're either sitting in a walled off estate and maybe take some sick subconscious pleasure in knowing everyone else is worse off and they got theirs (a lot of politicians, and I'm you can relate), or in thirdie cases a politician who will sell out and holiday/move their kids abroad/retire abroad. I don't disagree with what you said about ideologues but there is a tendency in media to portray anyone who does things to further an idea or do things that the public wants as ideologues or populists. For some reason these are inherently dirty words in western political discourse (which goes everywhere, operation mockingbird and so forth). They're not bad words, and a lot of the people described as such are actually very practical and level headed. I'm talking even about governments I do not agree with, incase you think I'm solely defending the Indian government at the moment. The job of a politician is (I'm just making up a definition) to get things done for those who put them in power. And despite the constant rhetoric as if people's will does not exist outside the west (and that rhetoric being used to off popular/loved leaders such as in Africa and even within the west) these leaders maintain power because they're good at politics, not because every thirdie is some NPC. And that's one thing you want in a politician, to be good at politics and not more beholden to powers outside of their actual constituency.
>>536791605Because you don't know your religion. Brahmins are ignorant poser cunts who are oppressing real Indian people. When you look at Indian history it all makes sense. They also betrayed our Aryan ancestors religion. >>536792459I am a pure European Aryan. You stole our ancestors religion by the way. We are asking you to stop that.
>>536785862Shit and piss have always been collected to be used in agriculture and textile/leather making. Even more so when shit could be used as a source for phosphorous that was needed for gunpowder production.
>>536786483cope russheedhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garderobe>The term garderobe is also used to refer to a medieval or Renaissance toilet or a close stool.[2] In a medieval castle, a garderobe was usually a simple hole discharging to the outside into a cesspit (akin to a pit latrine) or the moat (like a fish pond toilet), depending on the structure of the building. Such toilets were often placed inside a small chamber, leading by association to the use of the term garderobe to describe the rooms. Many can still be seen in Norman and medieval castles and fortifications, for example at Bürresheim Castle in Germany, where three garderobes are still visible.[3] They became obsolete with the introduction of indoor plumbing.
>>536793545I worked on farms here as a supervisor...do you want horrified?>Seeds come in. Seeds are genetically resistant to round up weed killer. Pipes in field you thought carried water, carries round up actually. It's cheaper to spray the crops then pay people to pick weeds.The is everyday btw..Harvest time comes around> A literal Holocaust of dead animals among the crops. Not a single weed or blade of grass, only the resistant crop is still alive. Supervise Mexicans Picking crops, put on combiner, send them off to distribution then to store. Maybe some get washed who knowsThis is what you eat buddy. Everyday. Things grown in an ocean of weed killer. I don't eat American food at all I avoid it.
>>536786192Big population only helps in dictatorships (see China). In (((democracies))) it always ends in misery and illusion.
>>536792653Talking... shit?
>>536791852>>536793737reached character limit on last reply because I'm a wordcel>I wrote "irrelevant red tape", because India's politicians are agnostic so you can bribe them for cheap money.This is one of those things that you may not be able to understand unless you've worked in a corrupt system. Which yours is, just the buying-in price for a lot of things is higher than for thirdies. If you think money-to-bribe-politicians is the largest power structure in a nation or region then you don't understand how power functions. I'm sure you do, and you know it's not that simple. Regardless, the price points you're talking about are now 100x what they were 20 years ago, it's a power dynamic and not a money dynamic for politicians. These are the dynamics of scale that would be hard to wrap ones head around. A small local politician in Asia has a constituency larger than many European nations, and even a fraction of that GDP is extremely valuable. If the politician is too stupid to understand it, the power brokers aren't, and even at full corruption levels you could entertain powerful bids from international players. What I mean to say is that it's not cheap money. That era is gone, that's outdated information. >Legal bribes: Make them look good in public; give them access to information; offer them stakes in investments and advisory board seats; buy their property for twice the market price etc. That kind of stuff is rampant in the West.Yes bro you get the situation exactly. That's where it has switched to. And yes, that is happening here but (more in the direction of China) the state still maintains ultimate control, the politician here is largely still more powerful than the individual corporate interest. Wheras in in the west I think the balance of power is more in favour of business interest. That is (I'm giving away more information than I should) the populations of Asia are not as controlled.I'm typing too much, third and last post for this reply coming
>>536794141kill yourself ctrl+V flag tourist
>>536794625Nigger born and raised here in kansas. We eat literally mutant crops resistant to weed killer. Never live near farms. Never eat shit grown here
>>536794778>Well I will just eat meat broWell good luck with that oneI would literally eat anything that's not grown here. India included
>>536791852>>536794424Even a 2000 character reply limit really shows how much the people in charge of social media want to dumb everything down. On a fucking politics board, 2000 characters. Anyways,The politicians that you're used to having and voting for are not people that would survive even local level politics in most of the third world, let alone in an ascendant power. You know this very well probably, they're the type of people to lead a student body and then get a script by their backers to unconfidently trudge infront of their populations for national level policy. The leader of virtually any EU nation would get chewed alive and spit out in politics and power dynamics here. And that's not a condemnation. That's the actual strength of the people-level power. A western politician has nothing to worry about, a thirdie politician is dealing with 10x the pressure from 10x the population, and that's why you're seeing 10x results from the thirdies and the western failson politicians in many ways unequipped to deal with political veterans. I don't simp for china, but the appropriate state-level delegation to an EU country is like a city suberb politician for the Chinese, not a national-level capable leader. And the US can't produce another national level capable leader with their current situation.>This is terrible! They meddle around in every aspect of economic life. People are more busy filling out forms and adhering to norms than doing their actual work! Just look at the difference between Germany and Switzerland. One has EU regulations, the other one doesn't. Result is 40%+ higher GDP.Yes you're preaching to the choir. At least you can look up the beautifully formatted EU and local regulations and just comply. I do agree that less regulation is better, but regulation is absolutely necessary. It requires technocrats to implement properly though, and for some reason that's once again a dirty word in western politics. Ok 2k character limit
Low iq
>>536791852>>536795107>Set up a for profit garbage collection system and turn the garbage into electricity. India's streets are littered with money. Literally!Yes you're fantasizing about it the same way I do and many of us do. How much could be done if resources were in the appropriate hands? Most of humanities problems is just that we have retards controlling resources beyond their capacity and creativity.As I alluded to in an earlier message, I'm sure with an iron fist things could go very quickly. But lets take it as a blessing we're not in the situation where people want an iron fist that bad yet. Your mind and mine align and you know I am losing my mind looking at fucking trash strewn about. But its decreasing and in true Indian fashion I've learned to understand that there's larger powers than my mind working and it's not really within my comprehension to understand.You do your work and do the best you can, and somehow that makes everything around you better which makes everything around it better. >The rule is to first clean your own garden, before starting to look elsewhere. That's literally a German phraseWe probably have some sanksrit vedic phrase that mogs the fuck out of it, and actually I can think of 2-3 but I won't quote them. Here have a good image for motivation. Sorry for the lack of text contrast, it's a google search from what I remember of the Gita PBUH>germans telling Indians about philosophy of selfThe best your your philosophy is downstream of ours, the european enlightenment was gaining access to the Vedas but pretending it just spontaneously occured to masonic and alchemy obsessed neets at the exact same time that Indic texts started to flow from India to Europe. But it belongs to you too, just your tradition got wiped by abrahamics while we managed to hold onto ours somehow
>>536795107thx for the text wall and no I will never change my formatting. I need this for my brain.We've got a similar problem with small local politicians. Towns usually also run the public services which is always externalized from the public core household and ran as normal business, but in ownership of the municipality. Now think of a small town with just 10k households having to pay a total of 1000+ Euros a year for garbage collection, grid operation, gas pipeline access etc. That's easily 10 million in revenue with close to zero accountability or competition. This leads to politicians often being distached from reality even in small towns where everyone know everyone.What you're also describing mass as its own quality. We indeed do not really have that. EU may be big, but it's far away. Tradition of subsisiarity lead to small units with lot's of bottom up organization (ignoring France). I agree, the quantity as its own quality and the constant pressure coming from that may be a factor we can't really grasp. Will have to think about that.
>>536795107Shut up poo
>>536796492>The best your your philosophy is downstream of ours, the european enlightenment was gaining access to the Vedas but pretending it just spontaneously occured to masonic and alchemy obsessed neets at the exact same time that Indic texts started to flow from India to EuropeThis is a Brahmanic lie. Brahmins totally betrayed the Aryan soul and honor. You kept the rituals and texts but lost the substance. We lost the rituals but we are still living through the substance. The real brahmins are the vishvakarma anyways.
>>536794424>>536795107>>536796492Omg you're still going on with this schizo babble?Stfu and join the gay indian pile already. We're soooooo moistened up and super duper hot rn. No one's reading your shit
>>536792052yes. Those are definitely cards that are on the table and the US has thrown those cards in the worlds face in the past few months. The idea of an integrated international economy relying on interdependence to keep peace sort of fell apart in the past few months due to hormuzzi. Was that a smart card for the US to play right now? I guess we'll see, if the thirdies manage to tough it out then that's a pretty big card the US lost for no reason. But if they don't? More likely a lose-lose situation. This entire hormuz situation could be easily interpreted as an act of war by the US against every country who is relying on energy from the straight, and from my comfy situation monitoring I do infact think all of the countries involved are treating it like an act of war. But more in the proxy ukraine/russia war type situation for the moment. All you retards had to do (sorry, not calling you a retard) was take russia onto your side and isolate china and you would have had 10 years of breathing room to plan. Right now you've pinned everyone into a corner including yourselves (the US does import oil for certain needs, domestic supply isn't enough because different oils are used for different things).The general gist of the situation is hoping that the other powers in the world can massage the situation into a better position without expanding the conflict zone into new theatres and new countries.>India will starve I'll tell you right now that's not happening, 50%+ of our population has recent memory of the type of great-depression-dustbowl that the US has lost memory of, and the same goes for the rest of the thirdies. After than it does become a conversation of sheer military power and industrial capacity, but I'm planning for kids and I don't want to entertain that shenanigans
>>536793937>Because you don't know your religion. Brahmins are ignorant poser cunts who are oppressing real Indian people. When you look at Indian history it all makes sense. They also betrayed our Aryan ancestors religion.saar you don't know your religion if I pulled it out of your ass and showed it to you. You have no concept or idea of what your ancestors thought or believed, you're as mentally conquered and forthfatherless as a paki. And I say that spiritually on the scale of thousands of years old traditions, not the recent indignities your population was subject to. >our aryan ancestorsFine whatever, I'm not going to exclude you. but you're typing and speaking like an ignorant commie who doesn't know his own roots. I know the exact literal philosophy and people you're quoting even if you don't, and they're not impressive ideas here. Let alone coming out of a polack.This tradition doesn't separate people from god, if you're actually trying to get closer to your roots then stop being such a fucking individual and tribal. It's explicitly adharmic to act that way, read/understand any of the texts
>>536786161This is so retarded>>536788015It had more to do with prior logistic routes for mass grain not being available anymore. Many Roman cities obtained a large amount of food by importing it from Egypt for instance. You know, back when they weren't muslims. Some other notable areas that produced a huge surplus and were at times in European hands were now in or near enough to being on the frontier they couldn't be relied upon.
>>536796601>What you're also describing mass as its own qualityNo actually that was the literal opposite of what I was saying, but if that's the funnel that your mind will keep pushing things then keep on doing it to your hearts content.
>>536785862Bulgaria towns had real sewers centuries earlier until the filthy Muslims rolled in.
i'm sure there's a pajeet calendar (reconstructed by british) that gives them credit for more centuries than 15
>>536785862>it makes me wonder how long India will need to fix their soiling issueNever? Millenia? Indians aren't human. They aren't just going to evolve into humans overnight, not decades nor centuries nor millenia.
>>536787595The cope. Didn't even make one sentence in, you should find your nearest Juggernaut and be redeemed. With the War continuing I just lol knowing since your stuck in India and when the Fuel runs out and the famine hits. HHuummm, Funny how your foot path out is through Bolochistain & Kashmir. Just telling you this so it enters your dreams. You should've pulled a me and stopped reading right there because now you know where you'll die in the coming years and it creates memetic loop; seeing your death, being droned in the face, lol wearing a combat turban. When some of us say we eat your gods, we just don't mean Cow; Mooo.
juggaloo means you're down with the brown til you're dead in the ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe8jJBoEmuY
>>536803513yeah, there's a probably-Greek origin calendar starting a few decades before 1 AD. Also that older Seleucid system which started like 312 BC although that's more for oriental Christians.
>>536785862i will not accept this slander of my ancestors they are much cleaner than modern jeets
>>536790777checklone saar state>https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2025/01/forever-chemicals-sludge-may-taint-nearly-70-million-farmland-acres>In 2023 alone, nearly 4.5 billion pounds of sludge were applied to farm fields or used in compost, according to state reports filed with the EPA. The states that produced the most sludge intended for use on farm fields include California, Florida and Illinois. But sludge can be transported and applied in other states.>Once PFAS-contaminated sludge is applied as a fertilizer, the forever chemicals can leach into food crops, and crops of animal feed, such as corn and hay. Then it can also be absorbed by animals that eat these feed crops. >Some PFAS are more likely to build up in sludge, studies show. Once applied to the land, PFAS in sludge can be absorbed by edible plants, although how much so can vary, depending on the amount of PFAS and type of plant.>These chemicals in sludge can also leach into water and contaminate drinking water sources or water used for watering animals.>Several farmers have been forced to euthanize their farm animals due to high levels of PFAS in farm products, in some cases losing significant parts of their livelihood or their entire farm.in ontario they do this too. you often see things like candy wrappers and hunks of toilet paper in the fields after they've been shit-gunned. all of the shit that comes from construction sites is taken and turned into pellets, along with the blue stuff and whatever else managed to get in there. but i guess burgers gotta eat, same as screwworms
>straining with a stinker>trying to squeeze it out>it's like mango jam on the brain>can i touch my pinus now>residential permanence>no one cuts me slack>looking for a new land>but never going back> let's go all the way> if we're not here to stay> yeah, yeah, yeah> let's go all the way
>>536791349Not only are you one, you're the worst kind - an atheist christian. Same as every other retarded glownigger.
>>536785862Europeans didn't bathe in the shit.
>>536785862>During Europe's middle ages it normal in towns to shit in buckets and then throw the content out of the window, same with the (arguably organic) garbage. Pure myth. Anyone doing this would face hefty fines. Latrines and cesspits had designated gong farmers to empty and clean them, and municipal laws required residents to keep the gutters outside their houses clean
>>536786483>Europeans are just Indians with pale skin and a bit more wealth.then what would that make Russians?
>>536807372or eat itJeet means LETS EAT COW SHIT TOGETHER
>>536785862India is a hell on Earth, even GeographicallyPoo demons are spreading globally nowKill them , murder them allTHENIndia will be rebuilt after all the poo demons are flushed. Hindooo is the viliest demon type on EarthThey live in imaginations of delusions, you can only erase their DNA as better than sewage cleaning goesMost delusions you can find in a random pajeet's mind. He is a GOD in his world of mindThen, we will REBUILD this land
>>536785862*5th
hey germans, look at this
>>536785862what are you talking aboutwe had canalization in the entire Mediterranean and most balkan nations during the Roman Empire already
>>536790147The decline of infrastructure in Rome happened gradually- it wasn't suddenly closed because of Christian morality. I too would like you to elaborate (ie tell us where you read that).
>>536807924liar, we still shit in flower pots on a daily basis
>>536785862In Europe there was at least a trough that swept the shit to a sump or cistern every time it rained.
>>536785862Whats crazy is that India has over a billion poor people that will work for almost free, and they still cant use all that nearly free labor to clean up the garbage, build dumps, or dig ditches for sewer pipes. I dont understand it. Is it so hard to create basic sanitation so they arent spreading disease to the rest of the world? Its almost like they are against cleanliness.
The tales about unclean medieval Europe are a jewish lie. They absolutely had regulated ways to dispose of sewage and they did in fact bathe regularly, using clean water. Europe was never the foul unclean shithoel that the Judeo-Masonic fake historians tell us it was.India's dirtiness is unique in human history.
>>536808457>human history>humanjeets arent human bud
>>536785862Maybe. But you pay taxes for rain and radio lel, youre not the one to judge jeet shithole
>>536785862also>Kassel mentionedPraise the Landgraves!
>>536808507Well they are hominids at any rate.
>>536786846>TenochtitlanIt was a large potemkin village for the elite. A bubble of luxury. The streets were pristine because there was an army of slaves keeping it clean 24/7.
>>536808711 auspicious saar you are destined for succeedful business
>>536788151>the /pol/ view of India is a solid hard decade behindYou literally have hundreds of millions still shitting on the streets.Your own statistics admit this and we can see with our own eyes immigrants jeets still street shitting all over the world.Try to deny that, you fucking jeet
the /pol/ view of india became the world's view in about 3 years. just another tinfoil figment materialized into reality.another new normal to get used to and live with forever
>>536785862The fact they haven't fixed it already means they never will.Im sick of people pretending like europe had some special advantage or that it never had to deal with these problems.Europe is much smaller than any of the other historical civilization centers and with a much worse climate and fewer resources, while being subjected to constant invasions from the south and east.Despite this, Europe found solutions to its problems, like shit management, and built the modern world.India should have been able to develop solutions to this centuries ago, but they didn't, because they dont want to.We need to stop referring to these countries as "developing" because they fucking aren't. They refuse to develop.The only advancements in any of these countries have been the direct result of colonization by white people, and they have the audacity to hate us for it.Fuck that shit.
>>536786192quality vs quantity.
>>536787893The dark ages happened, but the church wasnt the villain people like you want to claim they were.Literacy itself almost died after the fall of Rome and was only preserved by Christian monks transcribing the Bible and other Latin texts.It wasnt until the early Renaissance that nobility and merchants started to become literate again.
>>536786846Thats because it was built on a canal system like Venice. They still made blood sacrifices and had no domesticated animals or metal tools.
