Stoicism might be the best religion, because logic and the Trivium are a major part of it.
Super stoic.
>>536795027>best religionIt's a philosophy, for God's sake.
>>536795027Stoicism isnt a religion ya dummy
>>536795202>>536795236fuck off
>>536795374That’s not very stoic of you
>>536795530you're a fag, that's a fact, now fuck off
How can I achieve stoicism without daily hits of an opium tonic
Unlike brainwashed retards today, Stoics knew that logic is very important and that it's not something you're born with but something you must study. They also believed that grammar is important. The one philosophy to btfo all /pol/tards once and for all. Fucking bodybagged. Eat shit, forever.
>>536796174you're an actual fag, emotional thinker, study logic fucking cockeater
agreed OP
Stoics were midwits. There is a reason why it attracts fitness retards. Read the Eleatics.
stoics are literal cucks
>>536795027i like Taoism
>>536796462Nah...why give anyone power over your happiness?
>>536795027this board is too low iq to even know that Stoicism has a metaphysical dimension
>>536795027Stoicism is just distilled copium>yeah bro i'm so fucking stoicNo, your life sucks ass and youre coping and pretending it doesnt bother you or its a good thing. You are a complacent goycattle
>>536797451has fuckall to do with stoicism, retard
>>536797619Sure thing bro, just keep reading Meditations
Why normies philosophies are about giving up ?You want to be happy ? Just give up.Looking for meaning ? Easy there is none.Moral ? Everything is subjective, "objectively" right and wrong doesn't exist.
>>536796969>TaoismFag
>>536796969hell yeah, checking my yin/yang digits
>>536797985>yin/yang digitsFag
>>536795027Stoicism is a philosophical movement, not a religion. Marcus just sacrificed to Roman gods same as any other Roman of his time, but Stoicism has no religious requirements of ritual. It is not like Taoism in structure (being both philosophy & religion in one).
>>536798104>FagFag
>>536796183Logic is obviously something you are born with. People who have never studied logic can still make logical inferences, even if they are not aware of the logical form they are relying on. It's almost like saying that birds need to study ornithology in order to be birds.
>>536796462>not giving a shit about others motivation is cuckoldry
>>536797848fuck off with your off topic
>>536798140>muh philosophy, not muh religionfuck off fag, didn't read
>>536798320Not reading seems to be the problem
>>536798246as I said, the one philosophy to btfo retards like you once and for all, eat shit, forever, bodybagged fucking retard, study logic and stoicism and stfu cockeating brainwashed retard, ignorant, uneducated, uncultured fucking subhuman
>>536798360go back to eating cocks fag
>>536798432Ignoratio elenchiAd hominemStop embarrassing yourself on /pol/, swedekun
Marcus Aurelius, Friedrich Nietzsche, losers, stoicism is the ideology of tormented self hating weak faggots who can't handle plain and decide to ignore it. Bad news, even if you ignore the pain, the fire will still consume you! Temperance is a virtue but it has a time and a place. When you are attacked you must react and defend yourself.Also, Marcus Aurelius was a cuck for example. His wife saw him so weak, that she sought the company of gladiators and men of action, and he was a terrible father as well, look at Commodus he found his dad so pathetic he tried to emulate the gladiators that fucked his mother, he was a trash emperor because his father failed him. Marcus was a cuck and he just accepted it because it was the stoic way to see the world.>Aurelius turned a blind eye to Faustina’s transgressions>After the affair with the gladiator, Faustina continued cheating on her husband.>Aurelius’s advisors told him all the details of her raunchy affairs. They hoped Aurelius would kill her or at least request the divorce. But Aurelius stoically responded:“If I send away my wife, I must also repudiate her dowry.”>Since Faustina was the daughter of >Aurelius’s predecessor Emperor Antoninus Pius, her dowry was the Roman Empire. So Aurelius did nothing about his wife’s transgressions. He even elevated Faustina’s lovers to powerful positions within his government.>Aurelius and Faustina remained close to each other for the rest of theirs lives. Aurelius proclaimed his love for Faustina also in his personal diary, the famous Meditations. After Faustina died in 175, he named a city after her, institutionalized her as a national treasure and mourned her till his own passing in 180.MARCUS AURELIUS SATYED WITH HER AND GAVE PROMOTIONS TO THE GUYS WHO FUCKED HER.https://medium.com/lessons-from-history/marcus-aureliuss-deb7c542c3f0
>>536798697you know jack shit about logic
>>536797451All religions, spirituality and philosophy are methods of coping with the harshness of life. It's just a matter of how effective and realistic the method is. Stoicism is an effective method for approaching reality, with no reliance on woo-woo metaphysical concepts and immediately practical ideas on what you can do different today to suffer less. That's why people in the self-improvement space really really like it. It's something you can DO, not just passively receive.Buddhism is much beloved for the same reason, and it's notable that Zen Buddhism is the most beloved version in the West, again particularly among self-improooovers, since it's the version of Buddhism least reliant on woo-woo metaphysics, gods or magic rituals. The name Zen comes from zazen, "sitting meditation," reflecting the ultra focus on this one practice you could sit down and do immediately after reading my post; no tithes, no church, no ceremonies, no prayers, no professions of faith. You can just sit down, close your eyes and start the path to enlightenment.I think there's a fair few philosophies/religions/spiritual practices/etc that are effective along these lines, but absolutely zero of them are savior type religions like more mainline Buddhism, any of the Abrahamic faiths or Hinduism. All savior/afterworld religions are effectively stand-down psyops that tell their followers to just sit still and wait for someone else to save them, a spiritual version of what the government tells you when it doesn't want to prosecute the brown guy that attacked your daughter but doesn't want you to take the law into your own hands.Everyone's coping but are you coping well?
>>536798246>Logic is obviously something you are born with.some are but OP is still right that you must study/formalize itand those who aren't must study it too ofc... maybe one day it will come naturally to mostin a normal world to graduate at 16 or something you'd need to pass a logic test + some raw memorization stuff (training memory is important) but alas we are in clown world
>>536798885I logic mog you and this makes you seethe.Go back to studying french, your philosophy and logic takes are ass and expose you as a retard. At least with french you'll be able to communicate with a lot of africans, your intellectual equivalents
>>536798871didn't read, fuck off fag, any religion/philosophy/ideology (I don't give a fuck what you fags call it) that has the Trivium as a major part and says logic is not innate is based af and the antithesis of the retards on this site and board
>>536797848Because nature works in the 90:10 principle and it is far more likely that you are in the 90% of havenots.
>>536797619>>536798261>>536798320>>536798432>>536798539>>536798885>>536799101You know insulting the shit out of everyone is not an argument ?You are only showing the world how pathetic you are.
>>536799047uneducated uncultured subhuman, spiritual anglophone
>>536799164go back to stroking your cock
>>536798921I agree, notice the logical form of what I said:>People who have never studied logic can still make logical inferencesThey don't make *only* logical inferences, and they wouldn't be able to follow an explicit procedure to make logically valid deductions. But the baseline "material" for a formalisation of logic still exists in our everyday thinking. That is why Aristotle et al could even make sure that they got the formalisation right. They already had a basic logical intuition.
>>536798140True. Stoicism is pretty much atheism in the antiquity. Type of disregard for divine, believing in logos which is caged to a natural cause and effect. Instead of gods with mysteries and such. Stoicism just carries secularized religious concepts of rome and greece, same way modern western atheist carries christian religious secularized concepts. For example human rights. Which are secular version of christian notion that every human has innate dignity, which should not be violated by anyone, due to human being a image of a god.
>>536799195Anglophone? Je mogge ton francais aussi, je baise ta mere cette sale pute suedoise
>>536798921>>536799279you know jack shit, fuck off brainwashed uneducated uncultured subhuman retards
>>536799101>didn't read,stoicism at its peak, ignore and ignore, never face problems, evade them like a faggot.
>>536798222>>536798104Why don't you queers kiss
>>536799313>anime posterdidn't read, fuck off coomer
>>536798871>MARCUS AURELIUS SATYED WITH HER AND GAVE PROMOTIONS TO THE GUYS WHO FUCKED HER.This still happens all the time - it's called business. People get fucked, fucked over and promoted all day long. The thing about stoicism is it's nothing personal ... just business.
>>536799400>uneducatedIf you are so educated I suppose you know Marcus Aurelius gave promotions and riches to the men that fucked his wife. Let me guess, you didn't knew that. Stupid zoomer.
>>536799447Very stoic mindset
>>536798432You're extremely emotional for a self-styled "logical stoic." There's no inner spark in you. No creativity, no culture, just seethe over getting passed over in life. Sad state.
>>536798246You get this much when you read Aristotle. You notice its very basic, stuff everyone uses every day, without knowing. Not consistently maybe, but still uses.
>>536799766i'm not the topic, fuck off fag, always spamming your female psychoanalysis, im not interested, go back to sucking cock, emotional thinker
>>536799279Some people have logic but aren't born with it; they just studied it.>>536799400It's true, though. I had a >>> b, b >>> a type logic in everyday thinking before seeing it on paper. I still agree with you that everyone should study.
>>536799766>no cultureyou're anglophone, you know jack shit about culture, fuck off from my threads for good, I don't want to see you in my threads ever again, fag
>>536799846Plato would say it's anamnesis, I would say it's just making basic patterns of cognition, shared even by animals, more productive by becoming meta-aware of them and thus applying them in a more systematic manner.
>>536800126You two don't know a fucking thing about logic. Stoics think like Freemasons, who also value the study of logic/the Trivium highly. In Freemasonry the metaphor is that a person is a rough ashlar in the quarry and through work is refined to a perfect ashlar which is fitted into Solomon's temple. You are born with a seed of reason, but it is utterly incomplete without work. It's not an IQ thing. It's taught in the second degree of Freemasonry that the threshold between childhood and adulthood is to begin the work on refining your mind by studying the Trivium. The stone straight out of the quarry is not the finished Solomon's temple. Epictetus mocked people for thinking they were already complete without work, as 99% of brainwashed retards on this board.https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof28.htmhttps://youtu.be/IvYaOtciyfk&t=18430https://scottishritenmj.org/blog/meaning-rough-ashlarhttps://bricksmasons.com/blogs/masonic-education/rough-and-perfect-ashlar?srsltid=AfmBOoppP0EZacp_s2TuqmGOR6Kl_cEu0ieAlsGMM1-nrGcdAZZv6wVK
>>536795027I can fuck your wife and you can watch.
>>536798222Taoism is for gay chinks
>>536801242you would know eh
>>536795027>Stoicism might be the best religionYou are the fucking worst
>>536796969based
>>536795027Logic is useful, but at the core of the All is paradox which logic can never fully envelop.It's as futile as trying to square the circle, to translate and contain the irrational into and within the rational
>>536801794your band sucks shit Maynard. If i ever see your bald ass in public i'm going to yell at you and make a scene
>>536795202A philosophy that profoundly informed Christianity from its beginnings up to the early modern era. For hundreds of years, Boethius' Consolation was the second most published book after the Bible.
>>536798246We are born with the capacity for it, but it needs to be developed, just like any other skill. Everything in our "culture" is designed to make us as illogical as possible. Even our so-called education system is designed to make us compliant and stupid. That's no accident. It's done on purpose, although the people who designed it will never admit their real motives (not publicly, anyway).
>>536798871>Friedrich Nietzsche, stoicismNietzsche wasn't a stoic.
The trivium (a deep, systematic study of grammar, logic, and rhetoric) was the basis of Western education for over a thousand years. It continued in an increasingly diluted form until the middle of the 20th century, when it was replaced by more "progressive" methods of "education" for hoi polloi. It survives today only in very elite private schools. Recently the homeschooling movement has tried to revive it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triviumhttps://youtu.be/J-00ouej34ghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_education_movementhttps://classicalconversations.com/blog/what-is-the-triviumhttps://youtu.be/xu5eRDbW7kYThe Great Tradition edited by Richard GambleThe talk by Dorothy Sayers that sparked interest in the trivium among homeschoolers:https://archive.org/details/SayersJohn Taylor Gatto's breakdown of what you'll find still being taught only in the very elite private schools:https://youtu.be/VgNOellI03whttps://youtu.be/obFPLRuP41wHere's what we've been given instead:https://cardinalinstitute.com/the-prussian-model-of-education-in-the-us-should-be-reexaminedhttps://youtu.be/LnWbKQcElGkWhere the globalist elite go to school:https://youtu.be/A0OBhoWBctwAn outstanding textbook on the trivium method:https://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-josephMortimer Adler, the man who inspired Sister Miriam, wrote the book on how to read a book:https://archive.org/details/howtoreadabook1972editionhttps://youtu.be/gBHpj2gyt94A pop book about the trivium for the general public:Trivium: The Classical Liberal Arts of Grammar, Logic, & Rhetoric by John Michell, et al.A high-school textbook on traditional Aristotelian logic designed specifically as part of the trivium program:Logic As A Liberal Art by R. E. HouserA good essay on the fate of the humanities in our modern "education" system:https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2017/11/not-defend-humanities
>>536804020I suppose I should start by pointing out that there are three major versions of classical education: 1) A relatively secular version that concentrates almost entirely on the ancient Greek and Roman classics, which are read in their original languages, with a heavy emphasis on rhetoric and history. This was the version taught in English "public" schools until the late 19th century. (Public school means "elite private school" in britspeak.)2) An old-school Catholic version that devotes itself almost exclusively to a medieval curriculum that includes certain ancient Greek and Roman classics, with particular emphasis on Aristotle, as interpreted by the early Church Fathers (Augustine, Aquinas, etc.). It was taught almost entirely in Latin and focused mostly on traditional logic, philosophy, and theology. This was the version taught by the Church since the Middle Ages and by the Jesuits in particular from the late 16th century until the mid-20th century.3) A Renaissance humanistic version that incorporates lots of modern as well as classical literature, usually taught in the students' native tongue and focusing mostly on literature, history, and English prose composition. This is the version embraced by most Christian and secular CE programs today (the Charlotte Mason method being a perfect example).
>>536804100Each version has a different understanding of the purpose of the trivium, and acolytes can get quite testy about it. All of them see the trivium as the paradigm for a three-step program showing you how to acquire mastery in any given subject, with grammar being the first step, which is learning the technical vocabulary and basic facts of a subject; logic the second step, which is analyzing how and why it all works and extracting fundamental principles from it; and rhetoric the third step, which is successfully teaching this subject to others, thereby demonstrating your own mastery of it. But after that, the acolytes begin to differ. In the case of Latin grammar, for instance, the first version sees its acquisition as necessary for reading the ancient texts in the original language so that no nuances are lost in translation, whereas the second version sees the study of Latin grammar as uniquely suited for revealing the deep logical structure underlying all languages, while the third version sees learning Latin as a nice addition to your stock of knowledge and culture but not strictly necessary for your education.The three arts of the trivium (grammar, logic, rhetoric) were interpreted by Dorothy Sayers as representing three stages of childhood development, with each age group needing a different method of instruction. The first stage, the Grammar Stage, she said, should be taught to students between the ages of 5 and 12 and should be devoted strictly to memorizing facts & rules. There doesn't seem to be much historical evidence for her interpretation. It makes sense in a general way, but it would be foolish to follow her interpretation dogmatically, as some do. Historically, children in the old grammar schools were grouped and advanced according to their abilities. Quick learners advanced quickly.https://youtu.be/0q6Lc9oazsIhttps://youtu.be/HLt8FS9f3bA
>>536804170The grammar studied in the medieval trivium was Latin grammar, but it was studied as "general grammar", that is, not just for learning Latin but for understanding the structure of all languages, the categorization of reality, and the relationship between words, ideas, and reality. More specifically, it was a vehicle for teaching a sort of linguistic typology along with parts of Aristotle's logic treatise, The Organon.To grasp what the grammar part of the trivium is really about, it helps to know some basic linguistics and have some inkling of what Aristotle's logic and metaphysics are about.https://youtu.be/49Zeo4Qbw8Yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_typologyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_grammarhttps://iep.utm.edu/aristotle-logichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Interpretationhttps://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Works_of_Aristotle/On_Interpretationhttps://stgb.substack.com/p/aristotles-ten-categories-of-beinghttps://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-categorieshttps://archive.org/details/barnes-porphyry-introduction-en-2003https://youtu.be/pOAJoEUll0chttps://archive.org/details/categories-de-interpretatione-clarendon-aristotle-serieshttps://iep.utm.edu/aristotle-metaphysicshttps://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aristotle-metaphysicshttps://circeinstitute.org/blog/blog-metaphysics-grammarSubstance and Essence in Aristotle by Charlotte Witthttps://z-library.sk/dl/XB99zXa9BdIn a nutshell: words are arbitrary symbols for ideas; ideas are universal representations of things in the world; things in the world are known via the ten categories described by Aristotle; the different parts of speech (nouns, verbs, adjectives, etc.) correspond directly to one or another of Aristotle's ten categories; when words, ideas, and things in the world are properly aligned, we get true statements and an accurate understanding of the world. The study of grammar is therefore a perfect entry point for learning Aristotle's logic and metaphysics.
>>536804294General Grammar:Some introductory linguistics might be relevant:The Study of Language by George Yulehttps://archive.org/details/georgeyulethestudyoflanguage2017cambridgeuniversitypressAnalyzing Grammar by Paul Kroegerhttps://welib.org/md5/32159ba85b27eaac7ef0d8e00e36b86dAn 1848 English grammar book designed to highlight general grammar:https://classicalliberalarts.com/resources/Arnold_An_English_Grammar_for_Classical_Schools.pdfhttps://youtu.be/Xep1lDyLX9Yhttps://youtu.be/Bi0hvAeNL68https://youtu.be/qWB0KQfeYDAPrinciples of General Grammar by J. Roemerhttps://archive.org/details/principlesgener00roemgoogAn 18th-century treatise on general grammar that influenced Sister Miriam:https://archive.org/details/hermesorphilosop00harrThe Philosophy of Grammar by Otto Jespersenhttps://archive.org/details/philosophyofgram0000jespLatin grammar: Collar & Daniell's First-Year Latinhttps://archive.org/details/collardaniellsfi00collrichAn Introduction to the Latin Tongue by Emmanuel Alvarez https://archive.org/details/bim_eighteenth-century_an-introduction-to-the-l_alvarez-emmanuel_1707https://youtu.be/jNC7531p93gStudying historical/comparative linguistics related to your mother tongue is interesting and might be useful:First Steps in Anglo-Saxonhttps://archive.org/details/firststepsinang00sweegoogA History of the English Language by Baugh & Cablehttps://z-library.sk/dl/ABVoAL1OwzThe Mother Tongue by Lancelot Hogbenhttps://z-library.sk/dl/RjWOe4WbjGIndo-European Philology: Historical and Comparative by W. B. Lockwoodhttps://z-library.sk/dl/MBGyQdxAZVDo Languages Get More Analytic Over Time?https://youtu.be/qxOJ4p8e7NQNot part of the trivium, but here's some modern English grammar:https://archive.org/details/martha-kolln-loretta-gray-joseph-salvatore-understanding-english-grammar-pearson-2015_202408https://archive.org/details/higherenglishgra00bainrich
>>536804417In contrast to general grammar, which is about the structure of ALL languages and the relation of words to ideas and reality, there is special grammar, the study of the grammatical rules of a particular language and the relation of words to words (e.g., subject-verb agreement), which is what we usually mean nowadays by the term grammar. Special grammar was not really a focus of the trivium. In public schools these days, special grammar (i.e., English grammar), if it's taught at all, is usually lumped in with a poorly-taught course on English composition and given very cursory treatment.Even though it's not part of the trivium, I still wouldn't neglect special grammar and English composition. Since public schools no longer teach people how to write, I'll recommend some books and videos on composition and style that are specific to the writing of English.
>>536804507Special Grammar & Composition: Writing and Thinking by Foerster & Steadmanhttps://archive.org/details/writingthinkingh0000norm Style: Ten Lessons in Clarity and Grace by Joseph M. Williamshttps://z-library.sk/dl/0wEkW5oNjzRhetorical Grammar by Martha Kollnhttps://z-library.sk/dl/owRAxA5lBl Pen and Ink by Guy N. Pocockhttps://archive.org/details/bwb_KU-190-994Style: The Art of Writing by F. L. Lucashttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.474163Style: An Anti-Textbook by Richard A. LanhamThe Elements of Eloquence by Mark Forsythhttps://youtu.be/ulhrXgpjveAhttps://archive.org/details/englishcompositi01bainhttps://archive.org/details/acollegemanualr00baldgooghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden-path_sentencehttps://youtu.be/-BiwmpPDCpkhttps://youtu.be/hhVic18H4u4https://youtu.be/YYH6vfNiqxwhttps://youtu.be/RQL-2LHweKYhttps://youtu.be/A74sdHiIgnIhttps://youtu.be/6OK2yMbV-jUhttps://youtu.be/j5lAigr4_m0https://youtu.be/N4o5Y7ZRckwhttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.209854The last book listed above (the original unabridged edition by Graves & Hodge) contains a superb short history of English prose style. I also recommend studying poetry in depth, as this forces you to pay extremely close attention to words, their associations and effects, a habit that will later feed into rhetoric. Prosody manuals by actual poets should be your texts, plus a good anthology of great poems throughout the centuries (I like Immortal Poems of the English Language edited by Oscar Williams).Rules for the Dance: A Handbook for Writing andReading Metrical Verse by Mary OliverThe Poem's Heartbeat: A Manual of Prosody by Alfred CornPoetic Meter and Poetic Form by Paul Fussell https://archive.org/details/em-38057-poetic-meter-and-poetic-formThe Poet and the Poem by Judson Jeromehttps://youtu.be/MkvhZ6veqNAhttps://youtu.be/-18xZIr97KI
>>536804584For logic, start with some general and non-technical books like Lionel Ruby's Logic: An Introduction (which is the best general introduction to logic I've seen) and Stephen Naylor Thomas's Practical Reasoning in Natural Language (which drills students until they can analyze natural-language arguments in their sleep). After that, it's time for traditional Aristotelian logic, which is what the trivium is based on. The best introduction to this is Peter Kreeft's Socratic Logic. It's a textbook designed for high-school students. If you want to get really deep into it, there's H. W. B. Joseph's Introduction to Logic and of course Aristotle's Organon.https://archive.org/details/peter-kreeft-socratic-logichttps://archive.org/details/introductiontolo00josehttps://archive.org/details/organoncooke01arisuofthttps://archive.org/details/organoncooke02arisuoftAfter that, you can delve into modern formal deductive logic with Patrick Suppes's First Course in Mathematical Logic and Nicholas J. J. Smith's Logic: The Laws of Truth. There's also this free online textbook:https://forallx.openlogicproject.org/After that, you can look into informal logic. The author to read on this subject is Douglas Walton. He's written many books on it.This is the best book I've seen on what teachers nowadays like to call critical thinking:Creative and Critical Thinking by W. Edgar Moorehttps://z-library.sk/dl/OWZMKEX8Bx It's basically a primer on inductive reasoning.Here are two excellent 19th-century textbooks on deductive and inductive logic:https://archive.org/details/logicdeductivein00bain_0https://archive.org/details/logicdeductivean00readuoftIn addition to the above, you should also study abductive reasoning and heuristics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoninghttps://plato.stanford.edu/entries/abduction/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristichttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic_(psychology)
>>536804678>After that, you can look into informal logic. The author to read on this subject is Douglas Walton. He's written many books on it.What I like about Walton is that he doesn't claim that informal fallacies are always fallacies. He takes care to note the circumstances under which certain "fallacies" (such as ad hominem or the slippery slope) might actually be legitimate methods of critique. He's the only author I've read who does this.>you should also study abductive reasoning and heuristicsWalton has also written a book on abductive reasoning, which I haven't read yet. C. S. Peirce, the greatest philosopher the U.S. has ever produced, coined the philosophical term "abduction" (although its current definition has changed slightly) and made it a key component in his system. For heuristics, the authors to read are Georg Polya (who coined the term) and Gerd Gigerenzer.Gut Feelings: The Intelligence of the Unconscious by Gerd Gigerenzer Heuristics: The Foundations of Adaptive Behavior edited by Gerd GigerenzerMathematics and Plausible Reasoning (in two volumes) by Georg Polya The last book is a classic but requires some mathematical knowledge to fully appreciate. Polya wrote a more popular book called How To Solve It.https://miro.com/strategic-planning/what-is-ooda-loop/
>>536804770To transition from logic to rhetoric, study the Socratic elenchus and dialectic: https://therightquestions.co/tag/elenchus-method/https://archive.org/details/dialectic0000adle Aristotle's Dialectic: Topics, Sophistical Refutations, and Related Texts translated by C. D. C. ReeveDialectics: A Classical Approach to Inquiry by Nicholas Rescher Both elenchus and dialectic are methods of inquiry that use a question-and-answer format to test for inconsistency, but each has a different use and M.O. Elenchus is used solely for refutation. It begins by you asking your opponent for a definition of the subject under discussion and then peppering him with a series of yes-or-no questions carefully framed so as to make him assent and lead him step by step into contradicting himself, thereby (purportedly) refuting his original claim and demonstrating that he doesn't know what he's talking about. It does not attempt to make positive contributions, especially when combined with Socrates' scathing irony. In the early dialogues of Plato, Socrates simply demolishes his interlocutor, makes a few sarcastic remarks, and departs. That is elenchus. In the later dialogues, however, Socrates is less scathing and more constructive, using dialectic to help his friends develop their ideas into something that can withstand rigorous scrutiny. Dialectic is a kinder, gentler Q&A, two-way instead of one-way, with open-ended questions that allow for subtlety and nuance in reply. For our purposes, elenchus, if it is used at all, is used on (not-so-bright) enemies to refute their arguments and make them look foolish in public, while dialectic is used in private with (intelligent) allies to help us clarify our positions and refine our arguments. Dialectic, by the way, is the only antidote to this new man-made horror:https://youtu.be/_xHY4rfNRUAIf necessary, you can try to simulate dialectic by yourself:https://youtu.be/m47HazDm4Ekhttps://youtu.be/Fl5S5s8oSxM
>>536804851Finally, there's rhetoric, defined by Aristotle as "the faculty of discovering all available means of persuasion in any given case".The History and Theory of Rhetoric: An Introduction (1st edition) by James A. Herrick is a decent historical survey of the subject.https://archive.org/details/ancientrhetoricp00baldrichhttps://archive.org/details/medievalrhetoric0000char_n9f2https://archive.org/details/principlesofargu031882mbphttps://youtu.be/rl9WxD10WLsAn excellent modern rhetoric textbook based on classical principles:https://archive.org/details/classical-rhetoric-for-the-modern-student/A pdf for a beginner's version of Aristotle's Rhetoric:https://share.google/XbI3jCRVivWJUDVmfA series of short videos giving you a guided tour of Aristotle's Rhetoric:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFbFmLLP3FsLY0xVEg8pMkvX8qwFHGtwCA translation of Aristotle's Rhetoric:https://archive.org/details/artofrhetoric00arisuoftThe Rhetorica ad Herennium, formerly attributed to Cicero but probably not by him:https://archive.org/details/adcherenniumdera00capluoftFor a really deep dive, there's Quintilian's Institutes of Oratory (four volumes in the Loeb Classical Library), which gives long, precise descriptions of how upper-class Roman youths were trained to become effective speakers and writers.https://youtu.be/sVxKFyVAdNEhttps://youtu.be/3u4us3YYRAgTo bring your rhetorical education up to date, you might want to study books on propaganda and marketing. Edward Bernays, the father of public relations and modern advertising, wrote two short books on these subjects: Propaganda and Crystalizing Public Opinion. Robert Cialdini's book Influence is an update of Bernays. Finally, for a very deep and scholarly investigation there's Jacques Ellul's Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes.A key concept in modern rhetorical theory is identification, which underpins almost all propaganda, psyops, and advertising:https://youtu.be/zdbaV2MVhBM
>>536804969From a YouTube comment:>During Shakespeare’s era, the Classical Education of the Greeks and Romans had a renaissance. Writing was based on the trivium and had two stages. In Stage One the student would choose an exemplary model and analyze it by parsing it grammatically for correctness, then logically for arguments/topics of invention, and then rhetorically to identify its tropes and figures, as well as other things such as overall structure or matters of rhythm and euphony. Stage Two involved the practice of Imitation. These imitative exercises consisted either of copying the form of the original but supplying new content, or of copying the content of the original but supplying a new form. There were many different techniques employed (the most common being the varying of sentences) and they included a practice called Metaphrasis - the ‘translating’ from one genre to another - a speech to a poem, etc. Students kept commonplace books to record their favorites. Models of exemplary writing were often taken from famous Greek and Roman authors, such as Plutarch. I believe that, thanks to Desiderius Erasmus, Shakespeare would have had this classical training in writing. He would have been reading Sir Thomas North's translation of Plutarch as a model of excellence, and been practising his progymnasmata exercises, collecting them in his commonplace book. The final Form in this education is Genesis - the creation of your own work, which would have included examples of exercises a student had worked on during his education.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionysian_imitatiohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonplace_bookhttps://youtu.be/2HCmv6aDYbQhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progymnasmatahttps://www.classicalwriting.com/Progym.htmhttps://youtu.be/0f0N-DbtotIhttps://youtu.be/1pzXg-eqGW0https://youtu.be/B5ZijxcKzN8https://youtu.be/Qi58tonJlfEProgymnasmata: Greek Textbooks of Prose Composition and Rhetoric translated by George A. Kennedy
>>536805068>>536804417>>536804020>TL;DRFor those who just want the crash course...GRAMMAR:Collar & Daniell's First-Year Latinhttps://archive.org/details/collardaniellsfi00collrichLOGIC: Socratic Logic by Peter Kreeft https://archive.org/details/peter-kreeft-socratic-logicRHETORIC: Classical Rhetoric for the Modern Student by Edward Corbett https://archive.org/details/classical-rhetoric-for-the-modern-student/TYING IT ALL TOGETHER:The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric by Sister Miriam Josephhttps://archive.org/details/the-trivium-the-liberal-arts-of-logic-grammar-and-rhetoric-sister-miriam-joseph
Your education doesn't end with the study of grammar, logic, and rhetoric. The trivium should lead to the study of mathematics, philosophy, history, and literature.Start where all the greats did until comparatively recently. For over two millennia, every educated person learned abstract deductive reasoning by studying Euclid.https://youtu.be/IaXRFmtgMUU >I have given up newspapers in exchange for Tacitus and Thucydides, for Newton and Euclid, and I find myself much the happier. - Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Adams 21 January 1812https://quod.lib.umich.edu/j/jala/2629860.0041.104/--lincoln-euclid-and-the-satisfaction-of-success?rgn=main;view=fulltext?https://youtu.be/A-MxQJRXGy0Far from being obsolete, Euclidean diagrammatic reasoning is more natural than, and for some purposes might even be superior to, the algebraic forms of logic taught in universities today:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1877050920303409The Thirteen Books of Euclid's Elementshttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.126332https://youtu.be/BfQzIi9HZA4https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFC65BA76F7142E9DClassical Arithmetic, no longer taught in universities, but part of the ancient & medieval quadrivium:https://archive.org/details/nicomachus-introduction-to-arithmetichttps://youtu.be/ec1bzmEZ_yUhttps://archive.org/details/waterfield-theology-of-arithmetic-en-1988https://archive.org/details/bloomsbury-quadriviumhttps://youtu.be/bhTvt7bJxf4From ancient to modern geometry:The Four Pillars of Geometry by John Stillwellhttps://z-library.sk/dl/aBbmyxkGj8Quick surveys of modern mathematics: https://youtu.be/OmJ-4B-mS-Yhttps://youtu.be/GLMZc2EzsaIModern philosophy of mathematics:https://youtu.be/UhX1ouUjDHE A pop book on how non-STEM people can benefit from studying mathematics:How Not To Be Wrong: The Power of Mathematical Thinking by Jordan Ellenberghttps://z-library.sk/dl/lZldW5RmZK
>>536805328Here's a superb history of applied mathematics:https://archive.org/details/klinemathematicsandthephysicalworldHere are some very popular and rigorous 19th-century textbooks that are still being used in some countries:https://archive.org/details/academicarithmet00wellrichhttps://archive.org/details/elementaryalgebr00hallhttps://archive.org/details/advancedcoursein0000webshttps://archive.org/details/elementarytrigon00hallhttps://archive.org/details/elementsofcoordi00lonehttps://youtu.be/uvkagJC33JAhHere's a superb set of Soviet textbooks written by one of the greatest mathematicians of the 20th century and containing challenging problems that require some ingenuity to solve:https://archive.org/details/algebra_gelfandhttps://dokumen.pub/qdownload/geometry-1nbsped-1071602977-9781071602973.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/GelfandSaulTrigonometryhttps://z-library.sk/book/Bj4KaELMR3/functions-and-graphs.htmlhttps://archive.org/details/I.M.GelfandE.G.GlagolevaA.A.Kirilovhttps://archive.org/details/gelfand-et-al-sequences-combinations-limits-1969These were intended for teenaged homeschoolers in the hinterlands of the USSR and designed to help them learn the underlying concepts of precalculus math.What calculus is about:https://archive.org/details/W.W.SawyerWhatIsCalculusAbouthttps://z-library.sk/dl/MBGNdYmMjVhttps://archive.org/details/TarasovCalculusHere's an excellent modern calculus textbook suitable for self-study:Modern Calculus and Analytic Geometry by Richard A. Silvermanhttps://z-library.sk/book/0vp7k6qVjr/modern-calculus-and-analytic-geometry.htmlOther excellent modern calculus textbooks for self-study include Louis Leithold's The Calculus with Analytic Geometry, Daniel J. Velleman's Calculus: A Rigorous First Course, and Morris Kline's Calculus: An Intuitive and Physical Approach.https://youtu.be/J2OT5HAMYywhttps://archive.org/details/all-the-math-you-missed-thomas-a.-garrity-z-lib.org
>>536805393If you want to go to beyond calculus, you'll be getting into analysis and pure math, which is all about logically proving the taken-for-granted mathematical procedures themselves. This will require you to be creative in a very rigorous way.https://archive.org/details/introductiontoma00russuofthttps://www.urlw.com/mDw5Gnhttps://archive.org/details/charles-c.-pinter-2014-a-book-of-set-theoryhttps://archive.org/details/how-think-about-analysis-1https://youtu.be/V5tUc-J124sHow To Read and Do Proofs by Daniel Solow https://z-library.sk/dl/VABVn26xBzhttps://www.urlw.com/EgoFP1Mathematical Proofs by Chartrand, Polimeni, & Zhanghttps://z-library.sk/dl/YZ700rexj2https://youtu.be/swQjk7-Rn1g https://archive.org/details/book-of-proof-third-edition-2018-richard-hammackhttps://youtu.be/nGEUOLCYbnghttps://www.scribd.com/document/177508203/Burkill-a-First-Course-in-Mathematical-Analysishttps://oceanofpdf.com/genres/mathematics/pdf-advanced-calculus-by-angus-e-taylor-downloadReal Analysis by Jay Cummingshttps://youtu.be/oE3Q7EoYT4Uhttps://youtu.be/PgWaD4s-H5shttps://youtu.be/PgrRt9PpaxIhttps://youtu.be/tFsjz0yEQdchttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL04BA7A9EB907EDAF Elementary Classical Analysis by Marsden & Hoffmanhttps://z-library.sk/dl/AkBNPpV1ZLhttps://archive.org/details/WhatIsMathematicshttps://youtu.be/-fq6jhILiPwhttps://youtu.be/TdeKw0jbTdcWhat you DON'T want from the study of higher mathematics is mere rote learning for memorizing formulas that you mindlessly apply to contrived problems on exams. Some memorization and lots of practice will be necessary for developing your skills and intuition, but the ultimate goal is to understand, fully and deeply, what you are doing and why you are doing it. Mathematics, like logic, should teach you how to reason deductively and think systematically about things. It is, ultimately, a creative art/science.https://youtu.be/PiG8NM2aXI8https://youtu.be/upFxaYnrs-A
>>536805484One glaring omission from almost all public high-school curricula is probability and statistics. Every high school has calculus classes, but I've never seen a high school that teaches P&S. How odd. P&S would be far more useful than calculus for most people, and it's easier to teach. It is an indispensable tool of critical thinking--which is undoubtedly why it isn't taught in public schools.Here are some good introductory books that don't require a lot of math:How To Lie With Statistics by Darrell Huffhttps://archive.org/details/how-to-lie-with-statistics-darrell-huffAn Elementary Introduction to the Theory of Probability by Gnedenko & Khinchinhttps://archive.org/details/gnedenko-khinchin-an-elementary-introduction-to-the-theory-of-probabilityBasic Statistics (revised & enlarged edition) by George Simpson & Fritz Kafkahttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.148535Calculated Risks: How to Know When Numbers Deceive You by Gerd GigerenzerIntuitive Biostatistics by Harvey MotulskyHere's an excellent introduction to combinatorics, a branch of mathematics that informs P&S as well as CS:Mathematics of Choice by Ivan Nivenhttps://archive.org/details/math-of-choicehttp://infolab.stanford.edu/~ullman/focs/ch04.pdfSome basic knowledge of finite and discrete mathematics will inform combinatorics, which in turn will inform P&S:Finite Mathematics by Karl J. SmithIntroduction to Discrete Mathematics by Robert J. McElieceHere are some more advanced P&S books and courses that require a bit more math:Basic Concepts of Probability and Statistics by Hodges & LehmannAn Introduction to the Theory of Probability and Its Applications (in two volumes) by William Fellerhttps://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.5666https://archive.org/details/introduction-to-probability-second-edition-joseph-k.-blitzstein-jessica-hwang-z-libraryhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2SOU6wwxB0uwwH80KTQ6ht66KWxbzTIo
>>536805592Begin your study of philosophy with Plato & Aristotle.https://youtu.be/Dgrfc7CydJchttps://archive.org/details/plato-the-last-days-of-socrates-the-apology-crito-phaedo-platohttps://archive.org/details/gregory-vlastos-the-philosophy-of-socrates-a-collection-of-critical-essayshttps://archive.org/details/the-republic-joe-sachshttps://archive.org/details/platos-republic-a-critical-guidehttps://archive.org/details/theaetetusofplat00platrichhttps://archive.org/details/plato-r.-e.-allen-the-dialogues-of-platos-parmenidesPlato's Gorgias & Phaedrus translated by J. H. Nichols Jr.https://archive.org/details/aristotle-desire-to-understand-learhttps://archive.org/details/cambridge-companions-to-philosophy-jonathan-barnes-the-cambridge-companion-to-aristotle-cambridgehttps://archive.org/details/AristotlesNicomacheanEthicshttps://archive.org/details/AristotlePoliticsSachs.numTwo very different translations and interpretations of Aristotle's metaphysics:https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.185284https://archive.org/details/aristotles-metaphysics-sachs_202306A History of Ancient Philosophy (4 vols) by Giovanni Reale is a brilliant, original survey of ancient Greek philosophy:https://archive.org/details/historyofancient02realGuide to Philosophy by C. E. M. Joad is the best introduction to metaphysics & epistemology I've read:https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.507125https://archive.org/details/bwb_P9-CAT-703The Great Conversation by Melchert & Morrow Bacon to Kant: An Introduction to Modern Philosophy by Garrett ThomsonThe Metaphysical Foundations of Modern Science by E. A. BurttThinking It Through by K. A. Appiah https://fivebooks.com/best-books/kant/#book-705https://richardschutte.medium.com/the-triadic-of-reason-b17f3b2b9606https://youtu.be/-oQL0sB3lqYhttps://youtu.be/6RZr3dtvqAEhttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhP9EhPApKE8B-g03RivIMt7llh1cyEGVhttps://www.historyofphilosophy.net/all-episodes
>>536805672I could easily fill 30 posts just listing history books, but I'll limit myself to these 27 books (some of which are multi-volume) plus three essays. I concentrate mainly on ancient and modern Western history, choosing books as much for their literary quality as for their scholarship and insight. That's enough reading to keep you busy for a few years.What Is History? by E. H. CarrThe Rise of the West by William McNeillhttps://archive.org/details/historiesofherod00herohttps://archive.org/details/the-peloponnesian-war-oxford-university-press.-thucydides-martin-hammond-p.-j.-rhodes-2009_202504Hellenica and The Anabasis by XenophonThe Histories by Polybius History of Rome by LivyConspiracy of Catiline and The Jugurthine War by Sallust https://archive.org/details/twelvecaesars01suethttps://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.189883The Gallic War by Julius Caesar Plutarch's Lives History of the Wars and The Secret History by Procopius of CaesareaThe Muqaddimah by Ibn KhaldunNew Science by Giambattista VicoThe History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire by Edward Gibbon The History of England from the Accession of James the Second by Thomas Babington Macaulay France and England in North America by Francis ParkmanAlbion's Seed by David Hackett FischerThe Ideological Origins of the American Revolution by Bernard BailynDemocracy in America by Alexis de Tocqueville On Power by Bertrand de JouvenelThe Tragedy of Great Power Politics by John J. Mearsheimerhttps://archive.org/details/The-geographical-pivot-of-history The Origins of the Second World War by A. J. P. Taylorhttps://www.unz.com/runz/the-true-history-of-world-war-ii/ Tragedy and Hope by Carroll Quigley The Lessons of History by Will & Ariel Durant https://archive.org/details/the-fate-of-empires-and-search-for-survival-john-bagot-glubbThe Decline of the West by Oswald Spengler
Eventually you will want to collect your own library of physical books to read and study from, not just as a hedge against a complete internet crash or a full-scale, centralized memoryholing of unauthorized digital texts, but also because you learn better by reading and studying from physical books:https://youtu.be/SEu0tx1_Zwkhttps://youtu.be/uiNB-6SuqVAhttps://youtu.be/1ykKCTcCbKYYou can order cheap, used hardcopies of most of the books listed above from the following dealers:https://www.thriftbooks.com/https://www.betterworldbooks.com/https://www.hpb.com/https://www.ebay.com/https://www.abebooks.comWriting notes by hand is proven to increase retention:https://youtu.be/zKi1KYhi0xghttps://youtu.be/ATmJb3bH2E0
>>536805801Some books & videos on learning & studying:Uncommon Sense Teaching by Barbara OakleyHow We Learn by Stanislas Dehaenehttps://archive.org/details/stanislas-dehaene-how-we-learn-the-new-science-of-education-and-the-brain-penguin-2020Outsmart Yourself by Peter Vishton https://archive.org/details/OutsmartYourselfBrain-basedStrategiesToABetterYouA Mind For Numbers by Barbara Oakleyhttps://archive.org/details/a-mind-for-numbers-how-to-excel-at-math-and-science-barbara-oakleyAn Essay on the Psychology of Invention in the Mathematical Field by Jacques Hadamard https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.59603How to Take Smart Notes by Sönke Ahrenshttps://archive.org/details/how-to-take-smart-notes-sonke-ahrens-nigel-fyfeThe Memory Book by Harry Lorayne & Jerry Lucashttps://archive.org/details/june_20200501Précis Writing for American Schools by Samuel Thurberhttps://archive.org/details/prciswritingfora00thurhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forgetting_curvehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaced_repetitionhttps://youtu.be/nqYmmZKY4sAhttps://dictionary.apa.org/chunkinghttps://youtu.be/hydCdGLAh00https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desirable_difficultyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercorrection_(psychology)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5780548https://www.bcu.ac.uk/exams-and-revision/best-ways-to-revise/the-blurting-methodhttps://youtu.be/9qKDJDvczFUhttps://youtu.be/bNv8asxZc6Uhttps://youtu.be/m-8_PyCJ36Qhttps://youtu.be/HrVg76JAxNAhttps://youtu.be/3xFBkua-mnohttps://youtu.be/BG1tfC7tSYwhttps://youtu.be/o49C8jQIsvshttps://youtu.be/BpvEY-2dSdUhttps://youtu.be/w2uICmMcKxIhttps://www.zakvarty.com/blog/2022-10-07-rhetorical-precis/https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEe8GXNH09zkgH83tjuPzmB_HZe7Hdv39https://mathworld.wolfram.com/What your mindset should be:Homo Ludens by Johan Huizingahttps://archive.org/details/homo_ludens_johan_huizinga_routledge_1949_https://youtu.be/JxNGCrMuiTc
>>536800928>You are born with a seed of reason, but it is utterly incomplete without work.Correct and nothing I've said contradicts this. Also I don't know why you love Freemasonry so much and keeps spamming it. All intellectuals (including in the Middle Ages after they rediscovered Aristotle) recognized that people were born with different potential and emphasized the need to study (this included logic) for those who were raised to be thinkers.
>>536805921Master the arts of close reading AND effective skimming. You will need to be able to do both, but be sure to make at least 50% of your reading very close reading. Because we are continually bombarded with mostly trite or pernicious text, we have developed the habit of reading everything very quickly and superficially until our ability to pay close attention atrophies. We need to counteract this tendency and correct this habit with the daily practice of very close reading. The best material for this purpose is poetry and philosophy. Every day minutely analyze a poem and carefully study a passage from a particularly difficult philosophy book. You will still need to skim most of the written rubbish that is constantly shoved in your face, if only to determine whether it's even worth bothering with, but don't let this become your default mode. Occasionally you might want to give a close reading to some of the rubbish, to check it for hidden assumptions and hidden agenda.
For me, it's Aristippus of Cyrene.
In previous threads on this topic, a couple of posters asked me about homeschooling. I wasn't homeschooled, nor have I ever homeschooled anyone (the closest I've come to that is tutoring adult illiterates). I am the tragic product of our deliberately crappy public schools, but I've spent the last few years trying to correct what was done to me. Most of the books, videos, and websites I have recommended so far have been for adult autodidacts who want to discover what they were cheated out of by our modern school system. And since most of this material will probably be too advanced for young children, I'll use the following comments to post some links for those anons who are interested in homeschooling. Parents might want to look into the various homeschooling methods and curricula to see which ones suit them best, perhaps mixing and matching them to create an eclectic hybrid. The following suggestions are simply my best guess at what will probably work for most families. Using equal parts classical education (learning to think rigorously via a structured, time-tested curriculum), Charlotte Mason (treating the child with dignity, respecting his individuality and nurturing his soul), and traditional schooling (assignments, written tests, quantitative feedback) seems like a solid procedure. It can be leavened here and there with creative "unschooling" unit-studies projects, hobbies, nature walks, journaling, etc., where the child follows his own personal interests and applies to them what he's learned from his academic work. In vocational and military schools, the standard procedure was to have theory classes in the morning followed by hands-on training in the afternoon, with lots of review and reinforcement built into the curriculum. This always struck me as a very effective method of learning.https://youtu.be/wi9UBSIu10M
>>536795027Oh look, it's THIS faggot again.Not very stoic, Mr. Tantrum.
>>536806197https://youtu.be/LKAkKvZIHz4https://youtu.be/26sw04WNW0Ehttps://youtu.be/tc1v6K_5x-8https://youtu.be/52p7iEx59Yghttps://youtu.be/KWHMghEJn80https://youtu.be/FsZfwOxGKxMhttps://oceanofpdf.com/authors/susan-wise-bauer/pdf-epub-the-well-trained-mind-a-guide-to-classical-education-at-home-downloadTeaching The Trivium by Harvey & Laurie BluedornRecovering The Lost Tools of Learning by Douglas Wilson The Rhetoric Companion by Douglas Wilsonhttps://www.memoriapress.comhttps://youtu.be/QFOa_sPd_gAhttps://www.youtube.com/@SimplyCharlotteMasonhttps://www.amblesideonline.org/cm/indexhttps://triviumpursuit.com/the-trivium-and-charlotte-masonhttps://www.invictusclassicalpress.com/blog/can-you-do-classical-and-charlotte-mason-togethernbsphttps://youtu.be/NAczXNnUCR0Consider This: Charlotte Mason and the Classical Tradition by Karen Glasshttps://youtu.be/-Y5SRS-OPbAhttps://youtu.be/stZi7zjI194https://youtu.be/H8nKNqmpjrkhttps://youtu.be/p5qa_3T870Ahttps://youtu.be/sb4drjc_IGchttps://youtu.be/QSd6smQuPMMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_mathhttps://brighterly.com/blog/saxon-math-vs-singapore-mathPractical Algebra by Selby & Slavinhttps://archive.org/details/perelman-algebra-can-be-fun-mir-1979https://youtu.be/6iHch8rG67chttps://archive.org/details/1406MentalMathhttps://youtu.be/UNtxj_2Z8yk&list=PLm33tX0lmjCJXbrWgompzr7zY5GsLO0xEhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paideia_ProposalThe most popular schoolbooks in 19th century America:https://archive.org/details/ERIC_ED623277https://archive.org/details/mcguffeysrhetori00mcguhttps://archive.org/details/raysnewpractical0000jose
>>536806409Here's some stuff for hardcore autodidacts & homeschoolers with a very scholarly, antiquarian bent.Anyone curious about old-school Catholic education might want to look at the original education plan drawn up by the Jesuits in 1599:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratio_Studiorumhttps://archive.org/details/ratio-studiorum-1599How Roger Ascham taught Latin to Queen Elizabeth I:https://archive.org/details/scholemaster00aschuofthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_AschamA very long (in two volumes, nearly 1,500 pages total) and extremely detailed description of the education that English boys received from grammar schools in Shakespeare's time:https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.3734https://z-library.sk/dl/XB95AxkXBdMichel de Montaigne's two cents on how children ought to be educated:https://essays.quotidiana.org/montaigne/education_of_children
>>536803051You're confusing Late Platonism for Stoicism, dumb fuck kek
>>536806544Reading about the upbringing & education of a famous autodidact might provide some useful homeschooling ideas:https://archive.org/details/autobiobenfran00miffrichhttps://youtu.be/0aOrIZrY8XAA cautionary tale:https://archive.org/details/a592818300milluoftAnother cautionary tale:https://youtu.be/TXswlCa7dug(At university, I knew an East Asian student who committed suicide because he had disappointed his tiger parents by failing his engineering classes.)A STEM genius describes his childhood:https://youtu.be/iSVy1b-RyVMWhen it comes to children's education, knowing what NOT to do is just as important as knowing what to do. It's very telling that Big Tech oligarchs & high-level spooks in unguarded moments admit that they keep their children far away from social media and don't even own a TV. They use these technologies on us, to dumb us down and manipulate us, but they themselves avoid this stuff like the poison it is.https://m.independent.ie/life/family/parenting/the-tech-moguls-who-invented-social-media-have-banned-their-children-from-it/37494367.htmlhttps://youtu.be/Dr8G6tt4520Here's how their mind-crippling tech works:https://archive.org/details/little-light-pseudology-the-art-of-lyinghttps://www.eruptingmind.com/effects-of-tv-on-brainhttps://catholicinsight.com/2025/04/04/the-shallows-what-the-internet-is-doing-to-our-brainshttps://youtu.be/TpiuZdilY78https://youtu.be/D-Fxbw_v-e4https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4698/15/1/6#B4-societiesMost video games fall into this category of mind poison, too. A few of them (e.g., Tetris) might be OK.
>>536806557>29 postshe basically ruined the thread with all that shit no one is going to read
>>536795027Stoicism is not a religion. Stoicism is a philosophy. And it is the best philosophy for a Western man to live his life by.
>>536806687The most brilliant, prescient theorist of mass media and their effects on us, individually and societally, is Marshall McLuhan (1911 - 1980):https://youtu.be/h0U-hV5XMXYhttps://youtu.be/xtsTB3U8AeEhttps://youtu.be/972n2hdStyshttps://archive.org/details/ETC0624https://www.ocopy.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/mcluhan-marshall_the-gutenberg-galaxy-the-making-of-typographic-man.pdfhttps://www.enculturation.net/teaching-mcluhan
>>536795027Good thread. Lots of useful recomendations.
>>536806557As if The Consolations weren't deeply stoic in its outlook. Regardless of Boethius' classification as a Neoplatonist philosopher, his final book has been read as an exemplar of the stoic attitude.
>>536807193I thought these recommendations and links might be more interesting and useful to some anons than the usual psyops, celebrity gossip, and shitflinging.
>>536798432even I know that Norge peoples BTFO of Swedes
>>536796969Oh damn
>>536807363>>536807677No one read one word of what you posted you dumb fuck
>>536795027The Roman patrician class used stoicism as a tool to control the population and make them deal with their bullshit. They were by no means stoic or anti-decadent.
>>536806409Thank you for your recommendations.
>>536796136simple as
>>536808197At least two posters so far have said they appreciated them. If even one person lurking here found them useful, then I've done my job.
