Shots fired.
>>536800103free healthcare, bet hes not even circumcised LOL
>we pay more>freei still don't get it
>>536801085It's just the term anon. They could have more accurately said universal healthcare.Pointing out that the term being used is silly doesn't invalidate the point.
>>536800103Thats just obvious even to a brainlet
>>536800103The US health care system is a total failure. They spend 17-18 percent of GDP on it, and live for an average of 79,8 year, while we spend 8-9 percent and got an average lifespan of 82,1 year. but i support it. fuck the usa. after all they are our enemies now, so i hope it just gets worse for them.
>>536800103hes 100% right, Im beyond sick of this fucking kike government working for kike corporations with a nigger population and the migger fucking retards who defend all of it like perfectly brainwashed golem
>>536800103>the math really isn't that complicatedSo show everyone the math as to what that "free healthcare" costs the individual over the course of their lifetime, or how you're paying for the healthcare of immigrants who contribute nothing to the tax base. He'll quickly find the medical industry is simply fleecing the tax payer indirectly rather than directly and the math is actually fucked.>>536801817If you factor in how much of the US is suicidal niggers and obese spics you might actually find US Whites live longer than you because their healthcare system, and specialists in particular are world class.If someone is extremely wealthy in Denmark and needs the best treatment, they're flying to the US.
>>536800103You know, Id agree with norwayfaggot if that money didnt go to shitskins welfare which is why we are going bankrupt
>>536800103different side of the zogcointhey kneel and thank daddy government for employing them and handing them their daily bread
>>536800103Norwegians don't understand you can't have nice things in a racially chaotic kike run wasteland like America
>>536800103>we pay...>...in return we get freeCommunists are stupid
>>536801085>Corpo slave misses the corpo slave partMutts. That’s the joke.
>>536800103>we have an oil royalty funded welfare statecool maybe we come take your oil then we can afford it too
>>536802216you must be some type of scholar
>>536800103>imagine all the fatties and boomers that could get free healthcareI'd rather make healthcare illegal and burn doctors and nurses at the stake
>>536801972Just don't pay your medical bills. You don't need a goyscore. Use the er for everything. Fuck this entire system.
>>536800103>I pay taxes>I get free educationYour education sucks balls if you think something you paid for is free.
>>536800103What everyone means is americans get superfucked by their own system, but believe all is well er er cos muuuuurrkuuuhhh won WW2 so better N shit.Americans have never seen that the western world has sprinted ahead of america, and america is kept in the dark and fed a load of shit, just like mushrooms.
>>536801250>pointing out the sentence doesn’t mean what it says doesn’t undo the truth of the sentenceIt does, actually
>>536802017https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/racial-disparities-in-life-expectancy/> In comparison, life expectancy was 78.4 years for White people and 81.3 years for Hispanic people. Life expectancy was highest for Asian people at 85.2 years.
The math isn't mathing, right fellow gentlemen and gentleWomen if reddit?Edit: Wow, thanks for the gold! I tip my hat to thee xD
>>536801817Still waiting for a single universal healthcare shill to describe how we’ll maintain our position as the best place to get quality healthcare**with a white doctor
>>536801085Mutt education in action. The point is even though taxes are higher; at the end of the line americans pay way more for everything lol.
>>536801250Pretty sure it does
>>536800103>investment in hUmAn d1Gn1tY>mathWhat a stupid fucking faggot btw
>>536802515Is it free?
>>536802216it would be socialists you dingus.
>>536802515>over explaining to try to make a bad point goodThis is what dumb, emotional women do
>>536800103>>536801085Right so what the best thing to look at is take-home salary. It's higher in Norway etc. Stop thinking the idea that you should receive from THE SYSTEM YOU PAY INTO is entitlement or socialism
>>536802515You don't get it's the mutt is as resource mine for the Jews. The mutt exists to be a paypig for kike grifting. Miggers celebrate that
>throws 10 million nigger wrench into your socialist utopiaNothing personel, Fin.
>government bureaucrats in charge or healthcare or education >government bureaucrats in charge of "human dignity"hoooo
>>536800103Taxes aren't the issue. Demographics are. Everything was affordable in the 1950s and 60s. Then Israel killed JFK, changed the immigration laws, and everything changed.
>>536800103It's funny when Norwegians brag like this, when they're essentially a very rich Nordic country do to oil (and historically even). Their sovereign wealth fund is gigantic as well; and unlike Social Security they can actually invest in stocks and other things to make money
>>536802481>Note: Persons of Hispanic origin may be of any race but are categorized as Hispanic for this analysis; other groups are non-Hispanic. As always your country is utterly incapable of defining race. You haven't had accurate race based statistics regarding healthcare, economics or crime in decades mate.
>>536802592Fucking roads aren't free either, it's not the fucking point.
>>536800103The best Norwegian university is worse than our worst state flagship though
>>536800103Norway gets most of it's state funding through oil revenues. Norwegians are basically like if Saudi Arabians also paid taxes. Reminder members of the gulf states don't pay any taxes at all
>>536800103What low taxes is he talking about exactly?
>>536802078They do, they are just disingenous little weasels who lie to troll
>>536800103Yeah and thats all because they dont have to spend any money on their military. They use the USA as their free bodyguards.
>>536802514Yeah, the 0.1% can get that healthcare, congrats on financing the rich. I'm sure they're thankful, goy.
America's lower taxes were a fair point like 40 years ago. Now healthcare and education costs are just so fucking high that having them be "free" at a higher tax rate would be preferable. Yuros' "free" stuff is going down the shitter now even too though, mostly due to the mass influx of people who take but don't contribute to the system. The ones who aren't feeling it now will be feeling it in the future, especially once the petrodollar standard collapses. Shit's fucked everywhere in the west and no one will escape it.
>>536802767No it is. Thats exactly the point, and right wingers dont call roads free either dumbass. Infact the only thing libertarian say their willing to pay for is the roads. Part of what the right has always hated about you is this need to fucking lie with your words. >well I feel like its free because I dont see the billYou care more about the way the world "feels", because youre a degenerate hedonistic nigger. Thats why you dont think objectively lying matters. >I feel like im right and sheiiiiit
>>536800103>a grown man goes online and embarrasses himself like thatBizarre. Also all fields.
>>536802017>Immigrant walks into hospital sick>It is illegal to deny treatment to a sick person since 1992You pay for them anyway. You are literally paying for illegals and uninsured right now. Because the hospital is not taking a loss, they are gonna use your insurance to recoup the costI used to be against universal healthcare but now I don't care anymore. It's not a hill worth dieing on. It needs to happen
>>536800103No one thinks about Norway at all
>>536800103Don't most Europeans have to wait months before getting into a doctors office?
>>536800103Fun fact: you can just not pay medical bills
>>536800103>foreigner delusionally thinks Americans think of them at all
Guess how much I spent on my health care last year. I garuntee it was less than you, Europoor.
>>536802429oh im uniquely fucked>make about 40k which is "too much" for medicaid (but not enough to afford even a 1 bedroom apartment on my own)>shit job doesnt offer health insuranceI will never pay a medical bill but that doesnt change the fact if I need preventative care or get cancer or disease Im 100% fucked. also>you dont need a goyscoregood luck finding a place to live without one
It is a weird countryWe are "rich" due to oilWe where never rich historically, we where peasants and most where poor afIt is the last Soviet stateRuled by mostly leftist, though the right side is just as corrupt and self servingExtremely socialist, class divided, but money and status matters more than ideologyIt is an expensive and greedy countryYou are regulated and taxed to deathI`ve paid 36% on income tax since i was 17Never used our healthcare system and we have to pay for glasses and teeth our self which is expensive af400 + toll roads + road tax, forced insurance and very high gas prices to drive even though we have oil and produce gas our selfIt is the same with energy, even though we have clean energy in abundanceF.eks we sold energy to Germany`s railroads for pennies compared to what the average consumer here pays and it is traded as a commodity which drives the prices without any voters approving itFood is controlled by 2 major corpo`s and a ton of sub companies to avoid regulationsElectronics are in many ways the sameWork is full of jew daycare jobs, especially in the public sectorWe comply with all EU regulations like good little goy`s even though we vote no to that shit 2 times already as all politicians are self serving cunts regardless of party affiliationsMost people are npc`sLeft leaning with closeted right wingers afraid to speak upThe state controlled media is doing kike`s bidding, but we also have a relative free speech and people are starting to noticeThere are a ton of entitled migrants pissing around that likes to remind the locals that they are so as wellEspecially in major cities We have our share of crime, both from Norwegians and the "doctors and lawyers" we imported and most cop`s actually try to deal with it, but are under regulations and "orders" to "do this and that" which serves the left narrative, so it is only semi workingI do love the land thoughalmost as much as i loathe most the people inhabiting it now
>>536802515not really. they get higher wages and have to pay less taxes on investment gains. and the money that they would have spent on average EU healthcare can easily pay off all medical treatments an average person needs in his life. so unless you get really unlucky with your health, a wise-spending american wouldnt have to worry about getting scammed by "welfare".but then again, most mutts arent good at spending their money wisely, and with all their shitty food which fucks their health completely the above doesnt aply to 99% of mutts
was just revealed our - iguess family department of government. hands out money to a gay chemical sex organization...
>>536801250It does invalidate the point though. These things they’re listing aren’t free, they paid for by the government which is paid for by the people. Nothing about that is free. Now imagine you’re someone in perfect health, who doesn’t go to university, and also has no children. You’re still paying for all of these “free” benefits you’ll never receive.
>>536800103He's 100% right and he didn't even mention all the money you fatties waste on useless wars for Israel
>>536802017>US Whites live longer than you because their healthcare system, and specialists in particular are world class. If someone is extremely wealthy in Denmark and needs the best treatment, they're flying to the US.Then why does Japan has an even longer life expentency and quality of life than the US? Is it because because their healthcare system and specialists are better than ours, or is it because they dont allow their citizens to drop dead or live in constant pain if they can't afford treatment.
>>536801085So, I'm just going to work this out by memory but the correct term is heavily discounted.Average salary in Norway is around 3k eur, assuming that 50% of that goes to the state, the average citizen can then get 4.5k per month, absolutely free of taxes (but not even the USA has it, still let's roll with it). That is 54k a year. Then let's say that you pay for the mentioned services out of pocket>HealthcareMuch harder to estimate, since it really depends, but let's suppose there is a cancer treatment involved and we do a quick n'dirty google search. A cancer treatment in Norway is 76k, meaning that someone would have to go into debt should it go as average as it should. Meanwhile currently, a Norwegian pays like 300€ for it. >CollegeAnother one that is hard to estimate, especially when public institutions are involved pushing prices down. But another quick n'dirty google search gives a range between 9k – €23k for private university in Norway so let's take the median at 14k per year, which is 1.16k per month setting the salary back to 3.34k or close to the original taxed salary>Parental leaveEasy, 49 weeks is 12 months and 1 week, so that means that the parents do not have to save 55.1 k to get the same result.Then there are other points like; at which standard of living are you comfortable with? Because maybe there is no point in getting 54k€ tax free when the taxed 36k€ nets you enough to live, is not that much of a difference, and as you can see above it does make economic sense.Unless you plan for a high ambition/high status life, but then I would argue that 54k€ is not enough, you need double that and a paradigm shift.At least this is what my 5 min analysis has netted me, there are rivers of ink on this stuff but I hope I got my point across. It does make rational economic sense from an individual and collective perspective as long as the whole of society is comfortable with it.
>>536802078They’ll understand soon enough once they’re enriched to an adequate level.
>>536804031>Then why does Japan has an even longer life expentency and quality of life than the US?Diet and exercise.
>>536800103But then you mass imported migrant and now you don't have any of those things anymore.
There's nothing to debate btw. The US is a cattle farm run by corporate golems. If you disagree, it's because you're lying or you're stupid.
>>536800103I am effectively paying 60% tax Chris. Go fuck yourself. Bring up the progressive tax, please nigger. You earn 100k and you're knocked back down to the median, whereas the capital class pays half the rate in capital gains tax compared to income tax. Unless you're a scammer, already rich or corrupt the state does its best to keep you at 50k a year. Now the Greens got a bill pushed through to make construction sites zero emission. The cost of one square meter of completed housing is going from 4500$ to 60 now. Even getting a place to just live is being crushed by the same people who say I hate them just for existing. No bitch I hate you because you increasingly make normal life financially difficult and steal from people by constantly fucking with the interest rates. Right now you are not going to make money here, we are at record levels of capital flight, while the same rich people let the interest passively earn them even more while a nurse, electrician or whoever normal saturates themselves with debt to live the life they were promised for decades but is just fucking BTFO. Chris pretends it's all good and intentional but doesn't mention that we're basically Qatar with some redistribution. The reason Epstein was so involved with our political elite and royalty was because our politicians think they are Emirs who can just throw cash around. A friend of a friend of mine had his mom dying on him waiting for surgery. But our foreign minister Barth Eide just throws billions around when visiting some place on private jet and hires his own son. Epstein hooked the guy responsible for the Oslo Accords with luxury apartments and these fucks want to tell us that we are so fucking dignified? It's revolting to me. Chris believing the narrative makes him a useful idiot at best.We are a welfare state for boomers, public sector employees and lumpenproletariat. What the fuck happens to a country when it pays more not to work and you just ignore the resource curse??
>>536801817If they just made healthcare a nonprofit business again it would fix itself. Allowing speculation ruins everything
>>536800103Warning, OP is a jewish spammer who is going to be put on a cattle car and receive free healthcare.
>>536800103Dude is leaving out the fact his tax-payer funded Healthcare has month long queues & is tangibly inefficient BECAUSE of lacking profit-incentive.
>>536804422and it is so top heavy and costly we have a recruitment crisis. the same labor laws he claims are so great have loopholes they use to overwork nurses so now the unions are involved because the current practice is hiring them on part time then putting them on overtime they dont have to pay for. we recently got legal precedent for employers having to pay overtime for part timers working overtime but the department of health still doesn't want to. and like I mentioned in my post above, friend of a friend died from preventable causes waiting for surgery. you need money to go to the US if you really want to feel health secure, and then you're back to square one dealing with Martin Shkreli types
>>536801817>The US health care system is a total failureNo it hasn't, it's shortened our lifespans and artificially impoverished us exactly like kikes designed it to do. Also it's not the US healthcare system, it's jewish.
>>536801085That’s your fault for believing all tax money is thrown into a pit and never comes back to you in the form of state services. And then you consistently voted in a way which turned that belief into reality by letting Republicans cut everything useful to the bone.
>>536800103Oh things get even better when you're a high income earner. On top of a 35% base federal rate for income tax, I pay a 6.2% social security tax, and 7.5% state income tax. Then on top of that, a 12000/yr property tax on a modest home that's 90 minutes by train from my office. The average sales tax is 7.5 percent. That doesn't entitle me to any healthcare, education, or any other discernable benefit besides defense, roads (which are usually toll roads as well) and other core services. My wife's student loans accrue interest at 8% and cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. If I lose my job, my entire family loses its health insurance and private market rates would be thousands of dollars per month (I survived a mild form of cancer). Most likely $2-4000 or so. My son will either not go to college, go to college in Europe, or join the military to pay for it. I've watched old neighbors of mine get their houses taken away because of property tax liens where the state has quite literally evicted them from their own home and auctioned it off to one of the many Guatemalan families here who work in well paid construction jobs and pay nothing in taxes, yet are able to collect benefits, pooling their cash to buy homes out from under people like me who show up with a loan. The middle and especially upper middle class families in America are tax farmed to death to sustain an underclass of cheap labor who is now exceeding what we are able to achieve for ourselves because half their money doesn't go to the state and they're more willing to live ten to a house and spend life on the margins of society. All the while corporate profits bounce through Irish and Dutch subsidiaries to book $0 of taxable profit on shore, while corporations can spend infinite money on lobbying, enjoying first amendment protections as if they were citizens but being completely exempt from taxation. Industry really has achieved full regulatory capture and I'm just glad I'm on the right side...
>>536802514my brother in Christ, it's regulatory capture. start by introducing anto corruption laws so your Congress doesn't gargle private sector cum for sport and end the revolving door between private healthcare and regulatory bodies. >>536802631you wouldn't believe the cost of living here anon. then you add that the regime squanders our wealth. meanwhile the currency is deliberately made weak as to increase exports, but this gives us less purchasing power and in turn making it harder for the population to purchase their own assets.
>>536805273To be fair, that's exactly how taxes towards the US government works and you can't fault Americans for not wanting to give it more of their money.
>>536801252Americans don't pay lower taxes than yuros. Once you combine every level of Gov nickle and dimeing us, we pay as much. We also spend more on education and healthcare that youros. We just don't get shit for our taxes: more taxes won't change that.
>>536800103>bribe the people with their own money
>>536802721anon, it's the state buying assets. you are a client to the state here, it's not your assets. it belongs to whoever wants to suck WEF cock like Børge Brende look him up. he took over after Schwab had been embezelling funds, and is now being investigated by the Djuve-comission for corruption like many many others. these types take the money that's supposed to go to the working class and making it rain on other corrupt assholes abroad.>>536802804we intentionally have a very flat pyramid structure to society. american universities are the best in the world excepting a few asian ones. if you compare literacy between a Nordic country and the US at a high school level your retards can't even read while our blackest retarded gorilla niggers speak at least two languages.
>>536800103My insurance costs like $75/monthIt's really not that expensive
>>536804279This guy gets it. This is the terminal phase of corporate capture of government spurred on by access to cheap off the books labor in the form of migrants who are desperate and accepting of a lower quality of life than natives. >>536805303If your politicians are embracing migration, and if corporations enjoy more favorable tax treatment than people, this is your inevitable end state. It's enough to make you question the merits of capitalism, if the alternatives weren't so laughably worse. Our governments are cheerfully in the pocket of industry which will gladly continue to eek out bigger payouts for their predatory shareholders and equity partners until the decadence reaches an apex high enough to incite French revolution 2.0. My only fear is that by the time enough of us have gotten fed up enough to do anything about it we'll be living in the complete and tidy surveillance panopticon with infinity AI powered drones that can trivially hunt down and kill any human in the continental US in a matter of hours. That or my retarded neighbors will think I'm the bad guy because I live closer to their house than the billionaires over the border in Bedford.
>>536802515We pay more than you for everything because you are poor and we are not
>>536805545This guy also gets it. My income tax alone adds up to 48% on 500k
>>536802592Compared to america where the system costs more in taxes than in most of western europe? Yes lol.>>536802616Cope?>>536802632Fair>>536803955Not at all. In the netherlands if you live to 83 (average) you pay about 60,000€ for healthcare during your entire life. Thats less than americans, wayy less even. Americans are at 128,000 lol. We pay about 1,2% on profit on investments above 54,000 so gl beating that. Many EU countries even have 0% when you dont sell for a few years. Wages are also lower if you account for it all... muricans are beyond cucked but indeed if you are part of the 0,02% you are way richer.. again gl.Years of american propaganda made people believe mutts make more lol.
>lol
>>536805701>My insurance costs like $75/monthIf that what you pay, you're being subsidized with somebody else's money. That was the whole point of ACA: farm healthy middle class whites to pay for the underclass. The clever bit was getting insurance companies to handle the taxation while the government pretends it isn't' happening: can't vote your way out of a shitty tax burden if it doesn't officially exist.
>>536801085>i still don't get itInstead of being bankrupted when you face a midlife crisis, you're not bankrupted by a midlife crisis. The downside is that people who make 100x more than you ever will have to pay taxes.
>>536803913> We where never rich historicallyyou are so wrong it hurts my brain trying to understand how you can be this fucking retarded. you do realize we were a colony for two other states for 400 years right? the lumber on the church floors in Copenhagen is Norwegian, the copper in top of the buildings in Stockholm is Norwegian. you need to seriously update your understanding of history.
>>536800103>we pay>we get free
>>536802017>So show everyone the math as to what that "free healthcare" costs the individual over the course of their lifetimeRub two braincells together. Every American who catches a medical bill goes bankrupt. No European does.
How much of the medical technology Norway depends on was developed in the United States? What medical innovations were developed in Norway and exported to the rest of the world; how do these measure up against those developed in and exported by the United States?
>>536801085lolYou don't deserve national socialism.
>>536806029>Every American who catches a medical bill goes bankruptNo, not the poors or the foriegners, just productive members of society. This was considered an acceptable design.
"free healthcare" is the biggest copium ever, i wish we didn't have this forced shit. I never go to the doc, and when I actually need one I wait 8 months for my appointment.
>>536801085>European education
>>536804038your five minutes are appreciated. but healthcare costs are unevenly distributed, college gives you an avg student loan debt of 60k EUR and parental leave makes little sense when the ones making babies are the already wealthy and the poor.
>>536800103Our money goes to fighting Israel's enemies. Take that.
>>536800103>free college>you get to go to college for 4 years and then have to pay for it for the rest of your life
>>536805545On $214k of income last year we paid 12.6% to federal and 4.7% to the state.Really isn't too bad here, that's less than Yuros pay to VAT
>>536805918This is through my job which pays about $115k, why would I be subsidized?
>>536800103I hate you and I hope Russia kills you. Hate from Florida oblast!
>>536800103Yeah but is he blessed by God for supporting Israel? Free healthcare, college and 49 weeks paid leave don't mean shit if you have to burn in the eternal fire for eternity.
>>536806186Now look at how much muricans pay for healthcare with their taxes. You'll never stop laughing. Hint; its way more than any "free" healthcare country on earth. Mutts are completely buckbroken.
>>536805865>We pay about 1,2% on profit on investments above 54,000You don't actually believe that, do you? Seems like you have never invested or cashed out of anything.
>>536801817The lower US life-expectancy is not because of lack of healthcare, retard. Our survival-rate for virtually everything is higher than in Europe.Our problem is niggers, car accidents, and other accidents(pools, fourwheelers, guns, etc).
>>536806576Has anyone done this math after filtering out the smokers, addicts, and fats?If I didn't "have" to pay for my $75/month insurance then I've spent exactly $0 on healthcare over the past 16 years
The Norwegian economy is suffering the same problems as all the rest of Europe and the WestWe have too many boomers, the housing markets are fucked, youth unemployment is rising and migration (the thing that was meant to fix it) is just making everything worseOther nations are further down the hole than us, but we are still heading towards the same collapse
>>536806398Fair. However I'll point out that your cost is not $75/mo, the rest is being paid by your employer as part of your compensation package (depending on the structure you may even be paying taxes on that). A self employed person with an income of ~$115k would be paying closer $1k/moth if they went directly to an insurance company. In both cases: you and the self-employed person are, in fact, the subsidizers in the system I pointed out.
>>536806612Its not about believing lol. Its literally our system, you pay about 25% over 4% here. So its about 1,2%.
>>536805545This, Americans are having 30-50% of our incomes straight up stolen from us and the money doesn't fund anything useful to us.
>>536800103now let's see Paul Allens non-homogenous socialism
>>536806918That's 1.2% of your whole equity, not of profit.
>>536806186>when I actually need one I wait 8 months for my appointment.Come to America where you can just not get one when you need. And when you do get a doc, he's brown and doesn't speak fluently or know medicine or wash his hands.
>>536800103Provide your own defense.
>>536800103By definition you crowd fund everything. Dumbass.
>>536800103As a Canadian of partial Norwegian heritage living in America I am largely in agreement.I used to get into arguments with the MIGA saw bitch I used to work with about the sovereign wealth fund the Norwegians have, he was of the opinion that Norway was stealing from oil companies because they made them pay resource royalties for the privilege of drilling for O&G in the North Sea. Now I am personally not in favour of high personal income taxes, but for different reasons, I don’t want tax payer money going to Tel Aviv. Not a single cent, in fact the US should be charging them money for protection. I do favour universal health care or free university over you know, giving money to other countries that have those things. America is just basically an open air free range work camp.
>>536801085their high taxes subsidize services everyone in the country can take advantage of, while our lower but still pretty high taxes subsidize Israel
>>536805303this is what would make me apoplectic as an american, being dependent on your employer while at the same time having loved ones depend on you for basic services and seeing both the very rich and the very poor get what you can't would make my blood boil. I'm no commie or capitalist I just want to restore the social contract. >>536806066> CPR Training, 1960> Monodisperse Polymer Particles, 1977> Discovery of the Leprosy Bacillus, 1873 which is before the widespread adoption of bacterial theory in other countries> Advanced MRI Contrast Agents> Lærdal pocket mask> OptiNose Technology> groundbreaking cancer research> Nobel price for discovering how humans navigateetc.
>>536806923Something like 45% of Americans pay $0 to income tax
>>536805865>lies>immediately admits he was lying for no reason The issue here isnt whether or not I think the health care system needs to be revamped, I do, the question is why should I even engage in conversation with a narcissistic sociopath?
>>536800103>When Americans pity my Norwegian I'm gonna stop you right there, boss. We don't think about you at all.
>>536800103I actually get a hardon when I think about how 23 year old leftist faggots are saddled with $100K+ lifelong, bankruptcy-immune student debt for a fucking worthless diploma that isn't even worth a junior level job because a Claude subscription beats them.
>>536807447you'll be laughing until it's your turn to be replaced. I don't deny these people had both choice and agency, but neither should we deny that they were sold a social contract that evaporated long ago. 2008 and 2020 were just more nails in the coffin.
>>536801085You have to understand they just have a lower standard of living in Europe. Them making it is getting some shitty 100 year old flat with migrants above and below them. At least they get “free” healthcare though. And they see it as free because their salaries are so fucking low to begin with. I worked for a company out of university here that had offices all over Europe, my salary out of school was more than guys working 10 years over there.
>>536800103ha ha, yeah, you really told those Americans... yeah.
>>536807334Yes, these are the ones stealing.
>>536802462>>536802549>>536804000Free healthcare means free at point of use, autists. We all know it's paid by taxes. If someone was saying a road was free to use, implying it wasn't a toll road you wouldn't go "well ackshully the road is paid by your taxes so it's not free"
>>536807093Lets say you have 100k above the tax free amount. They say you earn 4% on that. So 4,000€. You then pay 25% on that 4,000€. So you pay 1,000€ on it. If you made more than 4% you still only pay on the 4,000€. So effectively you'd pay 1,000 on 155,000.
>>536806237>your five minutes are appreciatedHuh, that is not the reaction I expected (I expected autism). Still I cannot argue with someone suffering through it.
>>536802323We are all corpo slaves tho.
>>536807337Americans pay approximately \(\$7,274\) to \(\$7,500\) per person [1, 2] on healthcare exclusively through government and mandatory taxes. Because the United States features a hybrid public-private model, this means the government spends more tax dollars per capita on healthcare than many countries with universal systems, well before citizens pay out-of-pocket premiums or deductibles.In my country with "free" healthcare its 2000€ per year from tax and 1700€ a year via forced insurance. So go kys kike.
>>536800103>human dignityYou mean some vague shit that allows jews to say they need more funds to reinforce the vague shit forever.
>>536800103Correct.Profit and efficiency is the center of American society.Humans are the center of European societies.And I pay less tax as a % here with free health care and college and childcare than I did in the USA.
>>536807757thankfully they are mostly other euros, but your point still stands. not happy about it.>>536807849I am slightly exagerrating. Things are amazong here compared to many other places, but the typical med would fucking hate it here for social, not financial reasons. If you have the 'tism you're probably better off here, but you're still going to have to deal with crushing isolation if you're off on the social rules and the seasonal depression is no joke. Things can get really bleak and lonely here.
>>536807774Ive never heard the term "free road" ever. Ive never heard the term "free sewer" or "free fire department". "Free post office". Etc. Only free Healthcare and free college. Buzzwords for dumb niggers.
>>536808002Cool. Im glad you can google stats Youre still a psycho, who will lie over the most trivial things.
>>536802515Except I don't pay for any of that shit because I have no use for it
>>536806612>>536806918Dutch guy is talking bullshit.We pay 36% over an imaginary profit of 6% (unless your actual profits is less than 6% in which case you can challenge it)So it depends on your actual profit.My profit this year currently stands at 20%.So for every 100 euro I made 20 euro and have to pay .36x6=2.16 euro or an effective tax rate of 10.8%And that's a good year, in a bad year it can rise as high as 36% (but never any higher than that).
>>536800103>Be country of like 25 people>Situated on one of the most oil rich lands on the planet >Think that your extra 5% tax rate is paying for all of your "free" gibs These people are just retarded and should be addressed as such
>>536807795I don't need a calculation example. You are saying yourself that you are paying 25% on profit, not 1.2%. Whether you make much more is a different subject. You should also add that you pay that tax even if you don't realize your gains.
