Without even putting boots on the ground, only using retard cannon fodder proxies like Ukraine and Israel, USA is currently able to fight Russia and Iran to standstill simultaneously, while also blockading Cuba and propping up puppet governments across most of Europe, Latin America, Asia, and the Middle East. Meanwhile China can't even take back Taiwan which is right on its doorstep. Why do people still insist the empire is collapsing, is it just cope?
>>536801439China hasn't failed in their attempt to take back taiwan. We just had repeated taiwan straits crisis that never escalated into full blown war for Taiwanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_WarThe better example would be China's vietnam war after America's vietnam war
>>536801439Israel is fighting Iran. The US is their proxy.
>>536801774Anything you say Shmuley.
>>536801439>>536802650Americans let jews rape kids
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>>536802841That's a Jewish kid, if they want some old pedo to suck their baby's dick that's their business.
>>536801439>USA is currently able to fight Russia and Iran to standstillNeither conflict is a standstill. America decisively lost soft and hard power in both.>while also blockading CubaAmerica blockading a small island nation of mutts off its own coast is not a major feat>Meanwhile China can't even take back TaiwanEvery party in Taiwan agrees that Taiwan is China. Taiwan economically depends on China for its survival.>Why do people still insist the empire is collapsingBecause the US used to be an empire with a powerful passport and is now owned by Israel and is unable to do its master's bidding due to a lack of capability.
>>536801439Bwaahaha you stupid ass delusional fuck.
>>536803043No
>>536801439The USA hasn't won any of it's wars
>>536803043Proximity to whites means you get policed by whites They can do that in the sewers of some other planet
>>536803043>parents should have the right to ritualistically mutilate and suck blood from their boys genital but only their boys genitalsJust kill all baby mutilators and their enablers and earth is saved.
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>>536801439>USA is currently able to fight Iran to standstillDo you not realize that Iran is the one defending so a standstill means they're performing better?
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>>536803083>Neither conflict is a standstill. America decisively lost soft and hard power in both.How so? USA didn't actually spend that much on either conflict when you see what a tiny percentage either one is compared to overall defense spending, and in exchange USA completely squeezed Russia and Iran out of the European, Latin, and most of the Asian energy markets. USA scooped up all the chips, meanwhile Russia is still slugging it out advancing one inch at a time in a territory right on its border. USA lost nothing and gained total dominance over huge energy markets.
>>536803274Hormuz, Donbass, and Taiwan, all 3 are territories right on the opponent's doorstep. Iran, China, and Russia have every advantage in each battlefield, yet USA has such immense force projection that even from all the way around the world it is still able to completely stun-lock all 3 of them right on their own front porch, and then snatch all their birthdays.
>>536803756>How so?Because the conflicts don't stand still. Russia is acheiving its objectives on the battlefield. The entirety of the West have lost all advancements in their projects for Eastern Europe and are not going to enforce their plans for Russia on the battlefield. Therefore it's not a standstill. It's decisive Russian victory.>USA didn't actually spend that much on either conflictThe US' munitions stockpiles are depleted and the unpopularity of the wars has resulted in critical manpower shortages in all branches.>in exchange USA completely squeezed Russia and Iran out of the European, Latin, and most of the Asian energy markets.Russia makes its own energy and has enough to export. Iran makes its own energy and has enough to export. Both have land borders into China which are flowing just fine. Iran has Chinese flagged ships collecting its oil despite the US "blockade.">meanwhile Russia is still slugging it out advancingNot a standstill>USA lost nothingThe cashflow from the GCC, freedom of navigation in Hormuz and Red Sea, 30 airframes, 70% of precision munitions stockpiles, basically the entire Javelin stockpile, decades worth of patriots, most of the THAAD launchers and almost all of their missiles, ~1,000 personnel, all of America's land assets in the middle East that took decades to build, and the energy supply for all of America's vassals. America also is in the process of losing reserve currency status now that nations are adopting the Petro-Yuan to pay the Persian Gulf toll.>USA gained total dominance over huge energy marketsMultinational corporations can charge an extra $20/barrel in Europe for the petrol they extract from America. That's not going to help America, let alone help any American. America did not gain dominance in any energy market as a result of this. BRICS consolidated, and America is losing access to BRICS markets (more than half of human activity). That's not a win, that's an L.
>>536804729Think back to the game board pre-Euromaidan. Russia was signing huge energy deals with Germany, already supplied most of Europe, had a puppet running Ukraine and totally occupied the whole Eastern half of the country. Fast forward to today, the pipeline to Germany is blown up, Europe is totally dependent on USA its proxies for its energy, USA has its puppet running Ukraine, and Russia is burning through hundreds of thousands of men to hang onto territory it totally controlled just a few years previously. You guys are so focused on the micro you don't notice the direction things are moving in the macro.
>>536804937>Ukraine is a puppetYour idea of victory and a macro trend is that Ukraine hasn't lost *yet.*The macro trend is that the West attempted to militarily break up Russia and instead Russia is annexing 20% of Ukraine, NATO is demilitarized, and European nations have to choose between American dependence and starvation or switching to Russian oil and becoming financially stable. Europe's situation with America is not sustainable and will not hold and doesn't benefit America or Americans anyway. Because America doesn't own its oil exports. Multinational corporations do.
>>536805374>Your idea of victory and a macro trend is that Ukraine hasn't lost *yet.*What does Ukraine "winning" even look like? They traded one puppet for another and are totally depopulated now. US leadership doesn't care much who rules the smoking crater at the end of the conflict, the point was everything USA acquired up in the interim. Eventually Russia will fight its way back to Kiev, Zelensky will flee to Miami or Israel, you'll declare triumphantly that Russia won, but then you will be perplexed why USA seems even more dominant on the world stage despite Russia's triumph. If you actually sat down and took the time to tally what was won and lost pre-Maidan to now you'd realize how catastrophic it has been for Russia and how many chips USA scooped up.
>>536805374>America doesn't own its oil exports. Multinational corporations doI am in no way implying I am personally winning anything or benefiting in any way. It's Ukraine and Israeli cannon fodder today, tomorrow it could easily be me. I'm talking about the power struggle between factions of elites. There was a smash between US elites and Russian elites. Russia was challenged in a region it dominated, there was a smash, Russia fought its way back and at the end of the day Russian elites lost markets, US elites gained them, and hundreds of thousands of Russians are dead.
>>536806027>Russia is at a standstill>Russia is advancing too slowly on the battlefield>Ukraine hasn't currently lost, it's only losing, which if you think about it means America is winning and Russia is losing>It's not a fair comparison, because I can't define Ukrainian victoryThis is quite a journey you've undertaken for one thread.>everything USA acquired up in the interimRussia is annexing the resource-producing regions in Ukraine. The US has annexed ??? and now has ??? and all it cost was all of the US' military stockpiles and the stockpiles of all its vassals.>Russia will take Kiev, andyou'll declare triumphantly that Russia wonHow is that not victory?>you will be perplexed why USA seems even more dominant on the world stageYou're not even bothering to quantify it now. The US will not have a larger presence in Ukraine after this war than it did before.> If you actually sat down and took the time to tally what was won and lostRussia gains: Survival against western aggression, tens of millions of population, all of Ukraine's resource producing regions, 20% of the Earth's grain production, military dominance in Europe and the Black Sea, all the economic demand they could want from China, an economy immune to American soft power, arctic dominance, access to Chinese manufacturing that America doesn't have, energy leverage over Europe, a robust domestic MICRussia loses: ???America gains: Right now a multi-national fatcat is making a little more money than usual on extracting American oil.America loses: Its Ukrainian puppet, decades of investment into biolabs and military bases, NATO's viability, tens of thousands of personnel as permanent casualties, mechanized and infantry kit stockpiles, all of its artillery and AD stockpiles, all of its Abrams spare parts, access to BRICS markets, military volunteerism domestically
>>536806902>I'm talking about the power struggle between factions of elitesWhen you said "Russia is losing" you were referring to the fact that Jewish billionaires are leaving the country because Putin cracked down on them, to the massive benefit of the Russian people. And when you said "America is winning" you mean that America is whoring itself out to Jews.>Russian elites lost markets, US elites gained themRussia, the nation, gained markets. US, the nation, gained nothing.
>>536806921Russia will control territory it already controlled per-Maidan, and in exchange for that lost a significant percentage of its population, access to the entire European market, big sections of the Asian market, and control of Syria. Save some winning for the rest of us big guy.
>>536807354>Russia will control territory it already controlledRussia did not control the Donbas Republics or Crimea before 2014. By the end of this war, we're looking at Russia also annexing Kharkiv and basically everything up to the Dniepr.>lost a significant percentage of its populationRussia has gained more population in the annexation of the Donbas Republics than it has lost. By a factor of 10.>Access to the European marketEurope's markets are collapsing and Russia has access to China. China alone can provide more demand than Russia needs.>lost Syriacompletely unrelated to American interests or to the Ukraine war. The only reason you would celebrate what happened in Syria is if you have a vested interest in Jews and their puppets murdering humans.
>>536807752>Russia has access to ChinaRussia had access to the Chinese market already.>Russia has gained more population in the annexation of the Donbas RepublicsThese were already part of the Russian population, they just got new passports, and now there are a lot less of them as well.>Europe's markets are collapsingEngine stalled while they switch energy providers. There's a reason European leadership isn't as concerned as you are.
>>536801439>Why do people still insist the empire is collapsing?Because you're losing on all fronts
>>536809021>Russia had access to the Chinese market already.Your reading comprehension is poor. The "loss" of European markets is not a loss because of Russia's access to Chinese markets. I'm not arguing that fighting in Ukraine is what caused Russia to have access to Chinese markets.>These were already part of the Russian population, they just got new passportsNo, they were not. They were, in fact, Ukrainian citizens. Hence the passport issue. Annexing the Donbas Republics also bolstered the ranks of the SMO and formed the DRGs from irregulars.>and now there are a lot less of them as wellYes, because the Ukrainian military was trying to ethncially cleanse them for a decade before the SMO started. Russia joining on the side of the Donbas Republics resulted in those men joining Russia instead of dying alone. That's a big win for Russia.>Engine stalled while they switch energy providers.Europe cannot afford American gas at current rates. Europe's issues are not solely energy. Europe's energy issues can be immediately solved by ditching America and using Russian energy. After the war, this will be the solution they default to. Especially since NATO won't exist anymore.>There's a reason European leadership isn't as concerned as you are.Because European leadership isn't pro-Europe and doesn't care what happens to European countries or their people. Once again, you're pretending that "A jew in Europe got richer" is the same as "Europe won."
>>536803083>Every party in Taiwan agrees that Taiwan is China.Not true.
