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Is it permitted to attend mass on marijuana according to Jesus?
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>>536805945
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>>536805945
nope.
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>>536806005
Yes?
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>>536806348
Are you sure?

Even though the chapel makes holy oil which included cannabis?
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>>536806457
>20Now then, when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat. 21For as you eat, each of you goes ahead without sharing his meal.b While one remains hungry, another gets drunk. 1 cor 11

https://www.gotquestions.org/take-communion-unworthily.html

Be sober and of a sound mind.
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>>536806939
For some of us, the sound mind is not through pure sobriety since our brains are working overtime on advanced levels that are otherwise detrimental to the human body.
Sometimes therefore it is necessary to carefully and responsibly alter one's state of mind to bring the mind and body back into unison to then be of sound and sober mind.
Obviously there needs to be regulation, but for those of us that have to shed our sobriety even a percent to gain sound mind - there's a logical and beneficial reason to allow us to balance our brain chemistry by using tools the earth provides to us.
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>>536805945
Ugh i went to church once on Xmas Eve stoned. My high went away immediately. It was such a serious, crowded thing it killed my buzz.
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>>536807383
in the end the Bible says what it says, and it also says that things really come down to your own conscience, especially in terms of not stumbling other Christians with the things that you believe are acceptable for you.

but i dont think that you'll find much support from the congregation if you're turning up obviously intoxicated
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No Jesus is against congregating with idols
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>>536807888

Checked

Biblical ingredients for temple oil

Pure myrrh (מר דרור, mar deror) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Sweet cinnamon (קינמון בשם, kinnemon besem) 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
"Fragrant cane" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם, qaneh-bosem, cannabis[ 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
Cassia (קדה, kiddah) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Olive oil (שמן זית, shemen zayit) one hin (about 6 L (1.3 imp gal; 1.6 US gal), or 5.35 kg (11.8 lb))

Exodus 30:22-33
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Are you saying God doesn’t permit this?
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>>536805945

where in the Bible is mass even mentioned?
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>>536805945
You're told to be sober minded, keep the Sabbath holy and, you're also told to obtain from the APPEARANCE of evil, so if you're going to smoke, you should do it at home alone and you shouldn't smoke so much that it clouds your judgement, don't get wasted.

So yeah, probably should wait until after sunset on Saturday/Sunday. (Biblically the Sabbath is Saturday but a lot of Christians celebrate it on Sunday, best to observe both just to be obedient.)

You shouldn't be smoking for pleasure either, it should be entirely medicinal. For pain, inflammation, etc. if you're toking that 25-30% thc shit or vape carts, you're doing it wrong. Get Type 2 flower or CBD flower.
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>>536808827

When the Seraphim are singing

Holy Holy Holy
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>>536806939
this does not mean that you are not allowed to have alcohol. if alcohol were against God, he would not have mandated it for sacrifices. and jesus, who according to some christians outranks paul, mandated that his followers drink wine and eat bread in remembrance of him.
the verse means that one person goes without while another person gets too much. it's an appeal to be more sharing and communal with resources, not a prohibition on alcohol. and who the fuck is paul to make rules for anyone? first he unilaterally declares the law done away with, then he makes up his own laws. utter madness.
he also said you should be celibate until the rapture, and only marry if you have to, i don't see christians doing that. picky choosy
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>>536805945
Yeshua was a Rasta
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>>536806005
What a bunch of little faggots lol holy ahit.

Look at those losers. Pol is apparently very serious business that losers will dedicate their time and effort to it instead of just having a life.

I hope those guys realize what utter tools they are and off themselves lol
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>>536809107
This, he invented the chalice (water pipe)
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>>536808945

“Eat drink and be merry”

———-
Second of all where does Champagne come from?

Third of all:

Pure myrrh (מר דרור, mar deror) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Sweet cinnamon (קינמון בשם, kinnemon besem) 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
"Fragrant cane" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם, qaneh-bosem, cannabis[ 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
Cassia (קדה, kiddah) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Olive oil (שמן זית, shemen zayit) one hin (about 6 L (1.3 imp gal; 1.6 US gal), or 5.35 kg (11.8 lb))

Exodus 30:22-33

God explicitly states cannabis is required to commune with God
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>>536805945
Marijuana is the devil's lettuce and the Roman Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon.
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>>536805945
the incense itself is psychoactive
frankincense hits the gaba receptors like alcohol and benzos, and myrrh hits the opioid receptors. some altar boys even became addicted to the stuff.
there is also a lot of evidence that one of the remaining ingredients of the incense in the torah was actually cannabis, as the hebrew term is kanah bosem. many surrounding peoples had similar holy tents where they burned cannabis like incense, hotbox style. there have even been residues found at old holy sites in israel
https://youtu.be/90AITvzAyEQ
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>>536809039
>this does not mean that you are not allowed to have alcohol.
never said it did. its perfectly fine to have some wine, beer etc. personally i wouldn't be drinking before church or going drunk. where's the respect or keeping the day holy in that?
>goes off on anti-paul rant
i've no real interest in discussing these matters with unbelievers though.
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>>536805945
cannabis is caneh bosem
what do you think?
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>>536809245
So you are saying there’s a chance?
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>>536805945
Yes, but you will realize how virtually everyone there does not live how the priest is instructing. Nothing made me more self-aware than weed. At first it was paranoia, then it became a spiritual hypervigilance. I became celibate and it became transcendental to read not just the Bible, but the Catechism, Divine Comedy, &c. Also, the Jews hate weed and believe, per the Epstein files, it made people less compliant and NPC-like for mass control. Make of that what you will.
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>>536809357
In order to communicate with God in the Tabernacle, cannabis was the prerequisite.

Says so in Exodus.
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>>536809613
What about that pineapple guy?
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>>536809585
I think you’re thinking what I’m thinking
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>>536805945
My brother's god is weed. Truly the one thing he loves and doesn't treat like shit. He is a scary schizo. Fuck you OP. Jesus isn't real.
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>>536809613
Maybe they never tried holy oil before?
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>>536808945
do you remember the part in genesis where jacob's wives bargain for sex with him, using a mandrake as a payment?
i've never done it, but it is one of the most intense psychedelics known
>Mandrake root contains tropane alkaloids (atropine, scopolamine, hyoscyamine) that act as anticholinergic agents, producing effects distinct from most common recreational or pharmaceutical drugs. Unlike opioids or benzodiazepines which primarily depress the central nervous system to induce calm or euphoria, mandrake induces a state of toxic delirium characterized by the inability to differentiate between reality and hallucination, amnesia, and agitation.
there are zero prohibitions on drug and alcohol use in the torah, except for where it could lead to harm to yourself or others. if you blow your families money on meth, you're a bad guy. if you did a few rails of cocaine with your friends with money you earned, that's not a really bad thing in and of itself. there was a time in america when you could walk into a store and buy it, same with big jugs of laudanum. until the 1980s you could get amphetamine over the counter too. now roofers have to smoke a brake fluid concoction to work fast enough to stay employed
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>>536809840
So you want to take away his medicine which was outlined in the bible?
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>>536805945
Permitted to come to Christ.
But He will not leave you as He found you, unless you are a false convert.
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>>536809970
from Psalm 82:6, where it states: "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

True or false?
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>>536809914
Jacob was a trickster, he wasn't meant to be a good moral example..
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>>536808102
Then why are you posting an idol by your own prescriptions?
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>>536810198
There are no rituals assigned to Christ-Chan. Christ-Chan does the opposite of taking focus off of God. Nobody gives Christ-Chan their heart mind and strength. Nobody prays to Christ-Chan (need more graphics of Christ-Chan praying btw). You don't know what an idol is.
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>>536809357
it was quite heavily implied. but your position is clearer now.
it was prohibited for the priests to be drunk in the temple, so there is some precedent. but incence was mandatroy
>anti paul
or, i guess i'm not allowed to be that.
you are using paul as an authority, and i claim he has none. i believe in God not paul. christians constantly use him as a source of doctrine, and he never even met jesus. he also hated the 12 apostles and shit talked them constantly. he never even quotes jesus, or mentions anything from the gospels.
he was also a member of the edomite royal family, he wasn't even jewish. he was organizing a bootlicking incel cult to demoralize the jewish people
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>>536810155
check
yes he was
tricking bad people is ok
even in the womb, God loved jacob and hated esau
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>>536810563

Priests were instructed to consume cannabis before entering the tabernacle.
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>>536805945
Yes the Templars even drank cannabis infused wine for communion and before battles while on Crusade
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>>536811084
Well there we go
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>>536810633
Esau is the ancestor of all European peoples, Jacob is the ancestor of all Jewish people. This is why the descendants of Jacob perpetually try to steal from and cheat the descendants of Esau out of their birthrights
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>>536806005
It is always memeflags or the same fecal matter spamming here lol
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>>536810534
Posting an image of an “idol” is ritualistic. I haven’t ever seen you post Jesus before or Mary. Why not?
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>>536810563
Paul did meet Jesus.
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>>536805945
No. It would never be.
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>>536811368
That’s the name of Keanu Reeves band “fecal matter”.

Makes you think. Don’t it?
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>>536811397
My favorite Jesus is probably this one
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>>536811422
God says not only is it permissible but it’s expected.
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>>536811508
That’s beautiful.

Have you seen Jesus among the doctors by Albrecht Durer?
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>>536811554
How do you know what's the Holy Spirit and what's just being under the influence?
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>>536811658
With Cannabis?

Well think of it this way

If Psychedelic means to wander the mind

And our minds are in the image of God (Imago Dei)

What do you think?

What did Bob Marley say? Cannabis reveals you to yourself ie The Imago Dei
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>>536811554
How you arrived at that conclusion?
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>>536812083
That’s what he told Moses.
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>>536805945
No, you shouldn't eat or drink anything before the Mass.
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>>536805945
Jesus was a mushroom, dude
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>>536812175
Give the full quote or the name of the book, chapter and verse, please.
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>>536812622
I already did
>>536809226
Exodus 30:22-33
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>>536812541
A fun guy.
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>>536812461

What do you give the singularity at mass?

A silicon wafer
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>>536805945
>Is it permitted to attend mass on marijuana according to Jesus?
it's not what goes in but what goes out
now most people become unsound of mind after taking marijuana so...
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>>536811920
Idolatry usually involves vice and comes from lack of faith. So, you go into the sanctuary. You're high. People introduce themselves. You immediately forget their names. You drift off during the message only to have to lock in and catch up. I've done it. Not because I believed it would enhance my worship experience but because I was low key high all day everyday but still wanted to go to church. Come as you are I guess and nobody's perfect, but I can't say it's right. I can be a better congregant than that.
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>>536812752
Send it again, or quote your own post again, please.
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>>536805945

It was common to burn Hash in those incense containers.
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>>536812950

Cannabis produces neurogenesis-

Do you know what that is?

Do you think the head of medicine at Stanford introducing a lecture on memory would do so on cannabis if it impaired memory long term rather than the opposite?
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>>536813024
I did so
Exodus 30:22-33

Pure myrrh (מר דרור, mar deror) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Sweet cinnamon (קינמון בשם, kinnemon besem) 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
"Fragrant cane" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם, qaneh-bosem, cannabis[ 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
Cassia (קדה, kiddah) 500 shekels (about 6 kg (13 lb))
Olive oil (שמן זית, shemen zayit) one hin (about 6 L (1.3 imp gal; 1.6 US gal), or 5.35 kg (11.8 lb))
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>>536805945
I went to churches on good Friday with a stiff dose of black sunshine LSD. It was top of the line, I recommend it.
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>>536811296
esau gave up his birthright
he despised his birthright and sold it for a bowl of lentils. that is the moral of the story, that if you disregard your obligations towards God, he will replace you with someone else. same thing happened with saul.
ai rundown
In Judaism, Esau’s birthright (bekhorah) was a sacred privilege bestowed upon the firstborn son that included three primary components:

>Leadership and Authority: The firstborn became the head of the household, responsible for managing family affairs and holding judicial authority over the clan.
>Double Inheritance: He was entitled to a double portion of his father’s estate, as specified in Deuteronomy 21:17.
>Spiritual Service: The birthright included the duty to serve God, originally in the Tabernacle and later in the Temple, and to maintain the Abrahamic covenant.
>Esau forfeited these rights by trading them to Jacob for a single meal of lentil stew, an act that demonstrated his despising of spiritual and long-term value in favor of immediate physical gratification. This transaction legally transferred the birthright to Jacob, who was deemed more worthy of continuing the patriarchal line
>>536811419
in a dream. based on a popular greek play of the time. it's funny, but deuteronomy 13:1 explicitly says that if someone has a dream supposedly from God, and he then tells you to break the law of the covenant, that he was sent by God to test you, and that he should be killed by stoning. this is why almost everyone paul talked to wanted to kill him.
and if all it takes is a dream, then why not follow mohammed or joseph smith? all they have is their word. and in paul's case, he frequently lies, and even brags about lying in some places.
and if he had the authority to kill, he didn't work for the sanhedrin, because even they couldn't kill jesus, it had to be the romans. so he worked for the romans. this is like kash patel starting a kkk chapter.
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>>536813296
actually you're just a jew and want all the goyim stoned and retarded
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>>536813409
>"Fragrant cane" (קְנֵה-בֹשֶׂם, qaneh-bosem, cannabis[ 250 shekels (about 3 kg (6.6 lb))
From where you got the idea that Fragrant Cane is cannabis?
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>>536813296
The last five years have been an absolute blur of greenouts. No, it doesn't help memory. Thank God I memorized as much as I did sober, because new things I learn are far more difficult to memorize. I always have to run searches, I can't remember verse numbers. I just quit a couple of days ago do hopefully that will all improve. The greatest commandment states to love the Lord with all your mind, so it seems a bit disengenuous to give him your mind at limited capacity.
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>>536813713
A Rabbi and a Catholic Priest as it happens.
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>>536811493
>the name of Keanu Reeves band “fecal matter”.
it's actually dogstar. they did call themselves small fecal matter for a short time, though
kurt cobain's band before nirvana had that name though, they based it on the same source i think.
the dogstar is sirius, in some christian circles thought to be the star that guided the zoroastrian magi to jesus in the gospels. it's also a massive masonic dogwhistle
https://archive.org/details/moralsdogmaofanc00pikeiala/page/14/mode/2up
>To find in the BLAZING STAR of five points an allusion to the Divine Providence, is also fanciful ; and to make it commemorative of the Star that is said to have guided the Magi, is to give it a meaning comparatively modern. Originally it represented SIRIUS, or the Dog-star, the forerunner of the inundation of the Nile ; the God ANUBIS, companion of Isis in her search for the body of OSIRIS, her brother and husband. Then it became the image of HORUS, the son of OSIRIS, himself symbolized also by the Sun, the author of the Seasons, and the God of Time ; Son of Isis, who was the universal nature, himself the primitive matter, inexhaustible source of Life, spark of uncreated fire, universal seed of all beings. It was HERMES, also, the Master of Learning, whose name in Greek is that of the God Mercury. It became the sacred and potent sign or character of the Magi, the PENTALPHA, and is the significant emblem of Liberty and Freedom, blazing with a steady radiance amid the weltering elements of good and evil of Revolutions, and promising serene skies and fertile seasons to the nations, after the storms of change and tumult.
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>>536813642
Well if the head of medicine at Stanford gives lectures on cannabis, does that make him those things?
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>>536813545
It wasn't a dream, he wasn't alone.
Acts 9:6-9 (KJV) And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus.
And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
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>>536813886
Who are they?
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>>536813761
Do you know what neurogenesis is?
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>>536813980
Who are you?
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>>536807383
>our brains are working overtime on advanced levels
Get a load of this pretentious faggot.
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Duuudddee you ever worship the jewish moschiach... ON WEED BRO???

Also, no. I like to think he would find it undesirable.
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>>536814070
Someone interested in what you're saying. Moving on, who is this rabbi and priest that said this thing you heard?
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>>536814213
You think he would find the cure for neurodegenerative disease undesirable?
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>>536805945
jesus is white non whites seething
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>>536814331
If you don’t believe the word written in Exodus, why would it matter to you who they are?
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>>536805945
Come as you are bro Jesus loves you
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>>536814514
Did i say i didn't believe it?
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>>536814620
Do you believe it?
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>>536811508
i can't help but notice that almost zero christians do what jesus said in this story, which is give away everything you own
>>536812752
that particular mixture was reserved for the priests, and anyone else who used it was subject to the death penalty. you were also not allowed to make a mixture resembling it. that does not mean the individual components could not be used on their own
this goes for the holy oil too, it was not for the plebs, or even the levites, just the kohens and God
>>536812950
smoking weed is not idolatry. idolatry is faith in something other than God, not a lack of faith, a very greek idea that you are saved by spirtual gnosis rather than just behaving yourself like a normal person. the entire bible until paul says you are judged by your actions.
>>536813964
you get a lazy ai response. like all psychopaths, they can't keep their stories straight when repeated.
>Acts 9: Describes Paul’s companions standing speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one.
>Acts 22 & 26: States the companions saw the light but did not hear the voice, while Paul explicitly hears Jesus speak.
>Paul’s Epistles: Paul emphasizes that Jesus was revealed "in" him (Galatians 1:16) rather than describing external physical details, framing the event as an internal revelation or apostolic commissioning.

people wouldn't just get some papyrus and just lie, would they?
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>>536814539
He loves you too
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>>536814733
Neither.
I don't believe it nor i disbelieve it. I don't think i have enough knowledge about it to make a judgment.
So i ask of you, what is your reasoning how and who made you come to it.
So, who is the rabbi and priest that said it?
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>>536809127
This they are retarded niggers rolling in the mud, way way beneath us
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>>536814033
I know that if you want to have solid memory THC is the worst choice you can make.
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>>536805945
I guess Timothy 5:23 can be applied to weed oil as long as it isn't an gluttonous amount
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>>536815004
You don’t have enough knowledge about the ingredients of a holy oil I just listed straight out of exodus for you?

What exactly does that mean?
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>>536815203

Watch the first minute of this lecture, I watched ten years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_HfSnQqeyY
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>>536815275
I just read different versions and translations of the passage in questions.
None of them identified it as cannabis.
That's not a problem for me, i'm not a believer in sola scriptura.

So, anyway. Who is the rabbi and the priest that said it?
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>>536815246
Genesis 1.29
And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food

Matthew 4.4
It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
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>>536815460
Which language did you read the passages in?
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>>536815774
And the obvious memeflaggot kike poisons the thread
Don’t bother responding your id has been hidden kike
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>>536815860
I made the thread
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>>536815774
Portuguese mostly.
There was a hebrew/english translation.
But all of them translate it as Fragant cane.
So to identify it as cannabis you need some source outside of scripture.
I'm not a believer in sola scriptura, so that's never an issue to me.

So in what source you found it or what version of the bible included it in some footnote?

And why aren't you telling the names of the priest and the rabbi?
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>>536814892
i can't help but notice that almost zero people Jesus called rejected him. This rich young ruler asked what goid thing he must do to enter the kingdom of heaven. Jesus responds that only God is good and keep the commandments. But, if you want to be perfect give up your entire life and follow me. The other apostles did just this, only they gave up far less possessions. They left some boats and nets to follow Jesus. The rich young ruler could not. He had built up much wealth and it was too big a sacrifice for him. He also had kept the commandments well. In ministry this happens all the time. A person has no break, no real problems in their life, and therefore you can't be telling them Jesus loves them in spite of their sin. What sin? Why would they need Jesus if there is nothing in their life they need to reform? Why would you want to be reborn if your life is perfectly fine as it is?
Are you going to try to convince them they're lacking? They'll find you annoying. I don't have an answer for this mindset. I don't know what to tell someone like that. You're just going to sound like a nut when you tell them they need a relationship with Jesus for their Salvation. They won't take any of it without some kind of break. Hence camels and needles. Imagine if he had accepted. We'd know his name. He'd be in the Bible. The church would try to preserve whatever he'd built. Plenty of people too good to need atonement.
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>>536816033
Even Google tells you this

“2,700-year-old cannabis residue found on an ancient Judahite sanctuary altar at Tel Arad, confirm that cannabis was indeed burned during some Israelite religious rituals”
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>>536815460
>None of them identified it as cannabis.
this is because there are many words in the bible we simply don't know the meaning to. lots of them. like the kinds of stones in the high priests breastplate, most of them are educated guesses.
we don't for sure know what kaneh bosem was, but it was very likely cannabis, based again on surrounding cultures having similar practices as i mentioned before
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>>536805945
This kinda attitude among southern Christians is a relic of nixons so called moral majority and war on drugs. Jesus lived way way before this shit. He didn't police people for smoking weed.
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>>536816372
What words did you use to search it?
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>>536816657
rabbi discusses cannabis moses oil
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>>536816657
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>>536816702
Finally.
>>536816897
Is it the only source at the moment?
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>>536817152
The Google Article is quoting Haifa University located on Mount Carmel.

Other researchers include
anthropologist Sula Benet from Prof Carl Ruck, Dr. Ethan Russo, David Hillman PhD., as well as drug historians and authors Chris Conrad, Michael Horowitz, Martin Lee, and Michael Aldrich.


The archeological evidence from the Holy of Holies speaks for itself outside of linguistic conjecture.
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>>536817383
>The archeological evidence from the Holy of Holies speaks for itself
It doesn't. No archeological evidence exists without interpretation.
There's no single view from nowhere.
As it seems. The only thing we can say at the moment is.
Traces of cannabinoids were found in this temple. There's no more source or traditions relating to that in Judaism.

So the evidence of cannabinoids in tel arad temple is evidence of cannabinoids at tel arad. And it's that.
Second, it really doesn't make sense from that to say you can go to mass on marijuana, but anyway i digress.
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>>536817662
What’s your interpretation of THC in the Holy of Holies?
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>>536817662
It was also used in Ancient Chinese Funerary Rites - in tents.


“Researchers hypothesize that the cannabis was burned in enclosed tents or rooms alongside rhythmic harp music and flames. Mourners likely inhaled the smoke as a mind-altering sacrament to connect with the divine or to communicate with the deceased”
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>>536817826
I don't have one.
It's a circumstancial evidence that i really don't see how i can relate with anything.
There's no need to accept, reject, ignore or deny.

But i'm cautious for a few reasons.
There isn't holy of holies outside of the tabernacle and jerusalem. Well, it should not anyway.
So there's no holy of holies outside of the temple.
Doesn't mean they couldn't make a replica.

But second, the torah explicitly forbids use of incense outside of the tabernacle and later the temple.

So, there's trace of cannabinoids in a temple in Tel Arad, but jewish customs forbade use of incense outside of the tabernacle and temple of jerusalem.

So, i don't think i can make any judgment other than to not take this evidence in any way.

Do i make myself clear?
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>>536817982
Don't read to much into it.
You say:
>It was also used in Ancient Chinese Funerary Rites -
But your quote says:
>Researchers hypothesize
>Mourners likely inhaled the smoke

So you're skipping to the conclusion without adequate evidence.
Even if all of that was true, there's clear difference of entheogen use and going to religious ritual drunk.
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>>536818338

You know the tabernacle was a moveable tent right?
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>>536818585
Yeah, so...?
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>>536818526
“Incense burners recently unearthed in western China provide new evidence of marijuana's ritual role, once known only from historic texts.“

>once known only from historic texts.
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>>536818735
Well it somewhat contradicts your previous statement on static location, doesn’t it?
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>>536818831
Yeah, so...?
So if the Chinese used ritual cannabis i can go to the mass high on weed?
You're starting to lose me.
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>>536818963
No.
I made it pretty clear, tabernacle and temple over and over in that quote.
Because the tabernacle was transferred to the temple.

So the tabernacle moved, yeah. Could you be more explicit? I'm not being dishonest. i see you're trying a gotcha but i really am not tracking what you're trying to say.
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>>536818996
Universalism is the meaning of Catholicism Anon.
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>>536819159
Yes, but not in the sense you're trying to imply.
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>>536819134
What was stored in the tabernacle?
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>>536819217
According to whom?
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>>536819228
Incense, a sink of cooper, the ark of covenant with the decalogue, aaron staff and manah.
Am i missing something?
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>>536819290
The creed and the teaching of the church fathers.
Catholicos, meaning universal is used in the sense that the Church is the means for the nations to come to partake the eternal life with God.

That's why it's one, holy, catholic and apostolic church. Universal here is related with the 3 other adjectives.
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>>536819469
Do you know what the Jesuits did in China?
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>>536819731
I don't see the relevance.
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>>536819818
What relevance do you see in speaking to me?
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>>536820001
I can see a different worldview.
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>>536817662
That was me, I was interning and decided to spark up a doobie. When they were talking about finding cannabis I didn't want to tell on myself.
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Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons,

by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,

forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.
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>>536820106
The Jesuits intensely studied Chinese Medicine in China. This is the cornerstone of Universalism.

Imago Dei is the Universal Mind, would you agree?
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>>536820474
Lol, we forgive you, just don't do it again.
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>>536820536
No, i would not agree.
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>>536820672
Alright, what’s your contention with Imago Dei?
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>>536805945
Jesus surely doesn’t care so long as your heart is true. As the Athenian sage used to say, the beginning is everything.
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>>536820742
I do not have one.
I just don't see how you can say that imago dei is the unversal mind, and that is related to jesuit missions in China.

Let's organize it in a syllogism.

The Jesuits studied chinese medicine
That is a cornerstone of universalism
Imago dei is the universal mind would you agree?

The minor premisse contain things not said in the major premisse, and the conclusion contain things not present in either premisses.

It doesn't mean you're wrong or right either. I just can't track your argument.

I have no contention with imago dei, i just don't see how you can conclude what you say from Imago dei.

Define the image of God?
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>>536817662
>Traces of cannabinoids were found in this temple.
on incense offering altars. not just around in the ground somewhere.
you are also ignoring the etymology, kaneh bosem, which is cannabis.
we also know from other related semitic languages their words for cannabis, which were very similar to the hebrew
> Key Semitic names include:

>Hebrew: qannabbôs (a loan word used in the Mishnah for hemp) and pannag (proposed by some researchers as a biblical reference to cannabis).
>Arabic: qinnab (or quinnab), an ancient name for the plant, and hashish, referring to the resinous preparation.
>Akkadian (Neo-Assyrian): qunnabu (also spelled qunnapu, qunubu), recorded in cuneiform texts from the 1st millennium BCE as a source for oil, fiber, and medicine.
>Syriac: qanpa (meaning "ropes of hemp") and qunnappa.

as you can see even the mishnah uses it for hemp.
>Second, it really doesn't make sense from that to say you can go to mass on marijuana
the old testament does not give advice on how to attend idolatrous ceremonies like mass, where a man is worshipped, symbolically sacrificed to God and eaten, and then everyone drinks his blood. human sacrifice and blood drinking are the two biggest nonos in the torah. the only time we see God wanting human sacrifice is when he commanded the israelites to destroy everyone and everything in certain cities as a "whole burnt offering" or holocaust.
there is also no prohibition. it is against the law to add to or to take away from the law. this includes treating something as forbidden simply because it wasn't directly sanctioned.
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>>536821118
Have you lied in this thread at any point?
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>>536821203
If qannabbôs is cannabis in Hebrew what is kaneh bosem? Because the correlation does not happen in modern hebrew.
>the old testament does not give advice on how to attend idolatrous ceremonies like mass,
Not relevant
>human sacrifice and blood drinking are the two biggest nonos in the torah.
That man offered his own body and blood. So we do as he commanded, because he's the son of man.
>it is against the law to add to or to take away from the law. this includes treating something as forbidden simply because it wasn't directly sanctioned.
What is your faith or tradition?
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>>536821526
No i did not.
What makes you think or ask that?
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>>536821668
When you said you searched in Portuguese
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>>536821758
Yeah, what about it?
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>>536821668
You would have found

óleo da unção sagrada

O óleo da unção sagrada é uma substância aromática citada nas escrituras hebraicas (Êxodo 30) usada para consagrar sacerdotes, reis e objetos sagrados. Símbolo do Espírito Santo, representa purificação, separação para um propósito divino, cura e autoridade
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>>536821864
Yes...?
Your point being.
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>>536822072
Is that what you found?
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>>536822317
The first thing.
And then i selected different versions on https://www.bibliaonline.com.br/acf
starting with acf and going to other versions.

But, your point is...?
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>>536811508
This is mine.
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>>536821581
>If qannabbôs is cannabis in Hebrew
it's not, it's a loan word etmylogially similar to all of the other semitic languages. just as the post said. you are now ignoring things. cool
>So we do as he commanded, because he's the son of man.
but in doing so you are going directly against God. the israelites were given the land because of human sacrifice polluting it, and kicked out for doing it.
and son of man is not son of God, the main claim to fame. and you just do what he says because he told you he's the messiah, despite not fulfilling a single prophecy. boggles the mind.
>What is your faith or tradition?
non sequitur, trying to make it about be.
https://docs.google.com/viewerng/viewer?url=https://jewsforjudaism.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/FaithStrengthened.pdf&hl=en_US
if you have the balls give this a read. the good stuff starts on page 21, everything before it is a table of contents.
>1st. As to the pedigree of Jesus, he was not a descendant of
David, being merely affiliated to him through Joseph, as is
testified in the Gospel. For in Matthew, chapter 1, it is
written, that Jesus was born of Mary during her virginity,
and that Joseph knew her not until she had given birth to
Jesus. According to this statement, the pedigree of Joseph
can be of no avail to Jesus, and at the same time it is quite
evident that the ancestry of Mary was unknown to the
authors of the Gospel. But even the relationship of Joseph
to David is wanting in proof, there being a discrepancy
between Matthew and Luke in their account of his
pedigree, which appears clearly, when we compare the
Gospel of Matthew, chapter 1, with that of Luke, at the end
of chapter 3. Here we see conflicting testimonies; and
where that is the case no belief can be attached to either
statement. The prophets, on the contrary, predicted to us
that the expected Messiah should be no other than a
descendant of David.

sorry the formatting might be bad, copying from a pdf
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>>536822416
Do you believe cannabis can cure neurodegenerative diseases?
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>>536822594
>but in doing so you are going directly against God
I mean, God commanded us to do so.
For Christ is the Image and Likeness of God, and God himself.
So God made man ordered we to drink his blood and eat his flesh.
>and you just do what he says because he told you he's the messiah, despite not fulfilling a single prophecy. boggles the mind.
We'll see about it.
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>>536822594

Do you believe Michaelangelo’s sculpture depicts David or Achilles?
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>>536822617
We lost the track of the original discussion.
I don't really have an interest in discussing medical properties of cannabis, not in this thread at this moment.
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>>536822830
probably the last guy that davinci fucked before he made the statue desu
i've never heard of this controversy? sounds interesting.
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>>536822901
What possessed you to say that?
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>>536823027
davinci was a notorious bum driller
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well if it isn't another tongue in ass clever memeflag thread talking about christianity again. how do you do fellow whites
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>>536822876
What does Messiah mean specifically?

Did the disciples use holy oil?
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learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to the wrong posters. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same agendas that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them
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>>536805945
according to jewish fairy tales you must be high on only Jewish supremacy, sorry nothing else is heresy
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>>536823096

You look at a sculpture depicting David (or Achilles) by Michelangelo

And say this:
>>536822901

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the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore
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>>536823476
>David (or Achilles) by Michelangelo
lol sorry wrong artist
too much kanneh bosem
yes, he was super gay. you asked for the provenance of the inspiration for his statue, and i gave it.
he loved cocks. in his face, in his ass, couldn't get enough of 'em.
it's a good chance it was this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommaso_dei_Cavalieri
>Yes, historical evidence strongly indicates that Michelangelo was homosexual or queer, although modern labels did not exist in the Renaissance. He never married and maintained a lifelong, intense romantic and sexual attraction to men, most notably the young nobleman Tommaso de’ Cavalieri.

>Key evidence supporting this includes:

>Poetry: Michelangelo wrote passionate, erotic love poems to Cavalieri, which his grandnephew later censored by changing male pronouns to female after Michelangelo’s death.
>Art: His works, such as the Sistine Chapel nudes and drawings like The Rape of Ganymede, frequently idealized the nude male form with clear homoerotic undertones.
>Contemporary Accounts: Rivals and friends alike acknowledged his "tempestuous" nature and attraction to young men; he was also rumored to have had relationships with other male apprentices, such as Febo di Poggio.
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Do you know who the opposite of Raphael is and his purpose to Solomon?

According to the Talmud
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>>536823826
Meant to link this to you
>>536823896
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>>536809708
>muh burning bush
I sincerely doubt thats what he meant but as a schizophrenic I do believe in the spiritual powers of LSD
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>>536823183
>What does Messiah mean specifically?
I don't have sufficient knowledge about this topic, so i refrain from personal commentary.
>Did the disciples use holy oil?
Yeah, chrismation.
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You worship Saklas

>In ancient Gnosticism, Jesus and the Demiurge (Yaldabaoth) are half-brothers. Both were created through the agency of Sophia (Wisdom), but from entirely different origins. Jesus was an emanation of the spiritual Pleroma, while the Demiurge was the product of Sophia’s ignorant, unassisted desire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536813478
>black sunshine LSD. It was top of the line, I recommend it.

If only I could find some...
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>>536815203
>>536815438
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After he runs out of oil you'll likely return to a world that doesn't move but explodes, maybe even killing most people. He'll never find an alternative energy. It's all an illusion.

He puts on shows of deceit to keep you entertained in his system, but he's distracting you from the ultimate destruction he has planned

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

The Gospel of Judas: In the Gospel of Judas, Jesus reveals that the God most humans worship is actually this entity, Saklas, and teaches that true salvation requires escaping the rule of the material realm.
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>>536805945

Yes. maybe you open up interdimensional portals to schizo demons, but churchgoers are faggots anyway.
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>>536823896
asmodeus i think
helped him find the shamir to cut the stone
>>536824545
i just searched for that concept but it keeps coming up that this relationship between jesus and demiurge is non existent in gnostic literature
i think this is the case in mormonism though. it's also the relationship of data to lor in tng. spiner said in an interview that rodenberry told him data was based on jesus. same thing with kenshiro and raoh
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>>536807645
*Christmas and Hell sucks ass. look at the sacrifice as brownie points nigger. stop being a fucking faggot.
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>>536825192
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

Saklas
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>>536825537
this guy is saklas as well, means fool, comedian, joker
you get what you fucking deserve = eye for an eye, blow for blow, insult for insult
he is the half brother of bruce wayne as well
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>>536825192
Asmodeus was the Stone Mason of Solomon’s Temple?

Which symbol did Solomon use to bind him?
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>>536825537
The Gnostic Narrative: In these texts, Saklas (alongside his counterpart Yaldabaoth) is an imperfect, lower divine being who brings the physical universe into existence but regulates it through ignorance and deceit.

The "True" God: The Gnostic gospels teach that Jesus came to expose Saklas as a false god and to reveal a higher, unknowable, and purely spiritual realm of divine light.
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>>536825742
no that was hiram. hence the hiram abiff of masonry.
asmodeus was captured to reveal the location of the worm
solomon used his secret decoder ring. archangel michael gave him a ring with a seal (hexagram) which could be used to enslave evil spirits. this ring is the seal of solomon.
you can see that masons also wear a ring with a stylized hexagram, the square and compass.
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>>536825192
You just said so yourself
>>536825192
>asmodeus i think
helped him find the shamir to cut the stone

Therefore your statement entails Asmodeus was the Master Builder of Solomon’s Temple. Correct?
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>>536825769
Who’s this?
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EVERY PAJEET SAYS≈≈≈
>$45T stolen by britain ≈ abrahamic/desert/yahweh ≈ according to [AI chat product] ≈ actually jews are cool ≈ age of consent ≈ AI singularity/waifu ≈ aryan ≈ booba/sexo/would ≈ built for bbc ≈ can't breed ≈ capitalism ≈ caucasian ≈ ceo doctor technology ≈ chang seething ≈ cherry picking ≈ chess/cricket/spelling ≈ christcucks ≈ cletus ≈ consent is a western concept ≈ daily reminder ≈ divorce ≈ eglin afb is behind it ≈ elon/vance/vivek ≈ epstein files more important ≈ eugenics/dysgenic ≈ faustian spirit ≈ feminism/foids/simping ≈ fentanyl ≈ forced/inorganic/psyop ≈ full sapport for israel ≈ good morning ≈ haplogroup ≈ [height/penis/testosterone concern] ≈ household income ≈ human capital ≈ i can pass for xyz ≈ [incel noises] ≈ indo-[whatever] ≈ [iq insecurity] ≈ jesus was jewish ≈ jidf is behind it ≈ latinx ≈ left/right/voting matters ≈ lil bro ≈ maxxing/mindset/grind ≈ meritocracy ≈ mom/sister on onlyfans ≈ कुछ भी महत्वपूर्ण नहीं है ≈ nordic ≈ npnw ≈ obsessed/rent-free ≈ october 7 ≈ [other ethnicity] is guilty of [pajeet thing] ≈ outcompete ≈ paganism is your real heritage ≈ rape ≈ [redditor noises] ≈ [report snitch squeal] ≈ reverse colonization/conquest ≈ saar ≈ send bobs/vagene ≈ slave morality ≈ slop ≈ state mandated [entitlement] ≈ stem skill issue ≈ stolen land ≈ stop [cars/dogs/guns/meat/etc] ≈ thanks for the rupees jidf ≈ that's a paki ≈ timmy ≈ trannies ≈ trvth nvke ≈ unc/aunty ≈ voted for it ≈ we have nukes ≈ where should i move ≈ whiter than you ≈ why are white women like white people like this ≈ wiggers/wignats ≈ without a single shot ≈ yamnaya ≈ you need us ≈ you will be extinct ≈ you won't do shit ≈ you worship xyz ≈ zindabad ≈ zutt
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>>536826404
Is that supposed to be Judas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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judging by the way he cursed out that fig tree for simply observing the laws of nature and not bearing its fruit out of season, i would imagine not

though ammon hillman will tell you he was on like 50 different psychadelics
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>>536805945
No, that would be false discernment of Jesus' body and blood.
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>>536824706
in small doses it's neuroprotective, in high doses it's neuro toxic.
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Saklas, your lamb must be without blemish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

>The idea that the Demiurge shapes the human body originates in ancient philosophy and Gnostic theology. In these traditions, the Demiurge (a Greek word meaning "craftsman") is seen as a lower cosmic artisan who builds the physical world, including our material bodies, but lacks the ability to bestow the spiritual soul.
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>>536826098
>Therefore your statement entails Asmodeus was the Master Builder of Solomon’s Temple. Correct?
no, the bible clearly says it was hiram. the fable aslo contradicts the bible, which says the stones were cut in lebanon so that metal tools would not be used on a holy site. torah forbids iron tools to work stones for altars.
the plans were given supernaturally to david by God, this is in the bible too. in masonry God is the master builder, the great architect of the universe. this corresponds to the platonic concept of a demiurge, which means craftsman, artisan, designer, architect, etc.
asmodeus was forced to do slave labour, like trampling clay with his feet and fetching water. he later got pissed off and flung solomon a thousand miles away so that he had to walk all the way back to jerusalem. true story bro.
again, hiram from lebanon was the master craftsman. his mom was jewish and his dad was lebanese.
>Key verses detailing his role and craftsmanship include:

>1 Kings 7:13-14: Introduces him as the master craftsman fetched from Tyre, filled with wisdom and cunning to work in all types of metal.
>2 Chronicles 2:13: Describes him as a "cunning man, endued with understanding" who could work in gold, silver, brass, iron, stone, and timber, as well as dye fabrics in blue, purple, and crimson.
>1 Kings 7:15-46: Lists the specific items he created, including the two pillars (Jachin and Boaz), large basins, stands, and various temple vessels.
>2 Chronicles 4:11-16: Confirms that Huram finished all the work for the house of God, including the pots, shovels, and basins of bright brass.
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>WHAT IS A PAJEET?
the best way to define pajeet is
>descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry.

political distinctions on maps or signified by flags are false and irrelevant. everything south of the himalayas that isn't gooky-chinky is pajeet. pakistan, india, bangladesh, sri lanka are all pajeet territory. enough of nepal and bhutan are jeeted that they may as well qualify too.

all of these pajeets could stay where they belong and call themselves what they like, and nobody would disagree because nobody cares. however, because they profusely shit up the internet, and they mass migrate to shit up everyone else's homelands, they're all pajeets now. all counted together as the same thing, on the same visiting team as far as the human world is concerned.

hindu, muslim, sikh, atheist, etc; male, female, gendersexual, old, young, etc; deformed, odorless, fair & lovely, dark & deep, etc... forget all of it. none of that diversity matters once they exit designated land to race with the globalist rats. now their entire overcrowded neighborhood at the bottom of asia is known as one source of one type of trespasser: the pajeet.

>ONLY A PAJEET DISPUTES THIS DEFINITION
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Fuckin' Saklas man

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536826568
Which painting do you think it is?
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pajeets have been transplanted all over the world in unbelievable numbers. the plan is to homogenize all countries into a single mass of interchangeable, predictable, suggestible consumers whose only loyalty is to the elite and their system of puppetry. motivated not by heritage or ideology (despite all portrayals to the contrary), but by paltry shares of wealth and status in a materialistic world order in which everyone belongs equally everywhere and nowhere
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>>536826781
have another saklas
just like jigsaw and pennywise, he punishes the sinners
he has a hook nose and a kippah too.
God is the bad guy in horror movies, notice how he never kills innocents, just sinners. like in predator, how he only kills those who have weapons. he has rules.
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>>536826690
The Talmud said it was Asmodeus who was the Stone Cutter of Solomon’s Temple, correct?
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>>536826945
>>536826945
Why didn't you talk about Saklas earlier?

God of inversions and illusions. He sets up the conditions to punish you. He puts on shows to keep you trapped in his pain matrix.
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>>536826945
Interesting you should bring that up.

I just pointed out in Donnie Darko the mother is reading “It” when Donnie appears on his bicycle.

There’s another interesting book being read in The Shining.

Since you are trying to be frightening for some reason unbeknownst to anyone.
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there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets
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Saklas puts pure light into those with Down's Syndrome. He separates whites from blacks to pit them against each other, and he makes his favorite people the Jews the least numerous and the ugliest.

And then he puts on war shows. That's his pain matrix

A God of inversions and illusions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536827427
In Gnostic mythology, the "Fall of Sophia" (meaning "Wisdom") is the catastrophic cosmic event that birthed the material universe. It describes how divine wisdom sought forbidden knowledge without her male consort, leading to her descent from the spiritual realm (the Pleroma) and the accidental creation of the flawed creator, the Demiurge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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He puts a big ball of hot light in the sky because he's trying to remember the Monad and sometimes he'll try to get you to worship the sun as God

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536827743
What is Imago Dei?
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>>536827874
No need to know Saklas. You can't make it

>The idea that Jesus tricked the Demiurge stems from ancient Gnostic theology. In these esoteric traditions, the Demiurge (a flawed, often arrogant creator of the material world) erroneously believed he was the ultimate God. Jesus, sent by the true, transcendent spiritual realm (the Monad), used subterfuge to rescue humanity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536805945
You should avoid cannabis. It makes you commune with the demon Shiva. Also fills your head with gay commie thoughts.
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>>536828166
No need to know in Gnosticism?
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>>536828166
Are beauty and truth inherent within man?
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>>536827049
i actually talk about this all the time, i'm pretty autistic and get off running on the topic if i'm not careful
saklas is just a gnostic concept, i don't believe in it myself.
btw jerry, george and kramer are the demiurge. in the gnostic apocryphon of john, he is given 3 names. saklas the fool, samael the blind God, and yaldabaoth, child of chaos. so jerry the comedian is saklas. george wears glasses and is blind to his own faults as the name suggests. and kramer is pure chaos.
the episode with poppie comes from the talmud. megillah 25:b 18 says
>Rav Huna bar Manoaḥ said in the name of Rav Aḥa, son of Rav Ika: It is permitted for a Jew to say to a gentile: Take your idol and put it in your shin tav, i.e., shet, buttocks.
this is what happens to poppie, who represents the pope and catholics in general. il papa is the latin name. so an idol, or statue (same word in hebrew) of jerry, who is God, gets stuck in the pope's ass. just like the talmud
the pilot within the show is also based on the bible. if you harm someone and can't pay what you owe them, you become their slave, sometimes translated as servant for the church karens. this is what happens in the show, he becomes jerry's butler.
>>536827159
donnie darko (dd, 4th letter repeated ergo 44) which is the gematria of the hebrew words for blood and for lamb. he gives his life to save others.
frank and the rabbit together are the demiurge. the rabbit comes from the fibonacci sequence, which if repeated gets closer and closer to the golden ratio phi. the example of rabbits reproducing is the thought experiment used in determining the sequence.
https://web.archive.org/web/20240614111403/http://www.freehomepage.com/glenn/writings/Pentacle/
you can read all about it there. lots of good stuff in that.
rabbits are often used as symbolism in movies, like dead rabbits in gangs of new york, one dead on the road in mad max outside wee jerusalem, and harvey the rabbit from the jimmy stewart movie.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

Bricolage art is a creative practice of constructing artwork using a diverse range of materials that are already at hand, rather than relying on pre-planned materials or professional art supplies. Derived from the French word for "DIY" or "tinkering," it emphasizes resourcefulness, improvisation, and the re-imagination of everyday items into new, often conceptual, forms.
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>>536828535

In the Shining Wendy reads Catcher in the Rye


Catcher in the Rye (The Shining released a few months before John Lennon’s Death at the Dakota, the set facade of Rosemary’s Baby which was released the same year as 2001 A Space Odyssey, 1968)

>The Shining, directed by Stanley Kubrick, was officially released in the United States on May 23, 1980

John Lennon shot December 8th 1980

John Lennon had asked Kubrick to direct a version of Lord of the Rings, in which John was set to play Gollum. He declined the offer as he was just wrapping up 2001.

What date did the Twin Towers open?
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>>536827159
>The Shining.
art of war by sun tzu was the book i bet?
halloran is john the baptist merged with osiris, which is weird but not weird. in masonry and esoteric christianity the two are seen as the same archetype, essentially interchangeable. same with jesus and horus.
so both jtb and osiris die before the hero goes into full swing. and sometimes he resurrects too. think gandalf and obi wan kenobi.
jack torrance (sounds like torrents, as in a flood, like one that killed the entire planet) is the demiurge, along with the overlook hotel itself. a 2 in one deal. this is from the gnostic books, where there is the shadow and the demiurge, one is more powerful, remote and abstract and the other is more immediate and human. think skynet and terminator, or emperor and vader
the overlook is on a mountain, and overlooks everything just like God does with his all seeing eye.
God being an author is also used a lot. he writes our life stories. he is also insane, another demiurge attribute. also drunk, another common one. this represents pleasures of the flesh as well as syncretism with dionysius. think mr lahey from trailer park boys, the archon of sunnyvale along with randy bo bandy. the septugint says God calls himself I AM in ex 3:14
the son is of course jesus. jesus, like apollo, is associated with the sun in christian art, just like horus is associated with the sun in egyptian myth.
>>536827600
check
this is the plot to fallout 4
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>>536829146
The material realm is inherently limited by space, time, and physical laws. It consists of finite resources and tangible forms that cannot fully encompass boundless or immaterial concepts (such as infinite love or pure consciousness).

Bricolage art is a creative practice of constructing artwork using a diverse range of materials that are already at hand, rather than relying on pre-planned materials

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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In ancient cosmology, the Monad is the supreme, uncaused, and invisible Source of all reality.

The Pleroma: The Monad spontaneously emanates a realm of divine perfection called the Pleroma. From the silent perfection of the Monad flow a series of divine entities known as Aeons (such as Mind, Truth, and Logos) in pairs of male and female counterparts.

The Divine Spark: As the flow moves further away from the infinite source and descends into the material world (often attributed to the flawed creation of the Demiurge), it becomes degraded. However, a spiritual "divine spark" from the original Monad remains trapped within human souls, yearning to return to the source.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536829146
Close. Catcher in the Rye.
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>>536829054
>>The Shining, directed by Stanley Kubrick, was officially released in the United States on May 23, 1980
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>John Lennon shot December 8th 1980
https://gematrinator.com/date-calculator
go here and check out the date calculator
may 23 is the 144th day of the year. there are 222 days remaining in the year. these are both loaded with esoteric meaning.
only 144,000 chosen. it's also the gematria of the aleph tav, a usually untranslated grammatical construct from hebrew. it's the first and last letter of the hebrew alphabet, with all kinds of connotations in there. God is the first and last in isaiah, and jesus is the alpha and omega in revelation.
222 is the gematria for firstborn, the firstborn son of God in this context.
here are some correspondence tables i use
https://www.billheidrick.com/works/hgm1/hg0040.htm#44
https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib500#table-of-factors
https://www.astrumargenteum.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/0058-Liber-LVIII-The-Qabalah-An-Essay-Upon-Number-Temple-of.pdf
there were also 200 days between the two events
>What date did the Twin Towers open?
4/4/73. 73 is the gematria for chokmah meaning wisdom
33,000 workers were fired from the port authority just before construction began. sorry can't remember the page but a great read.
https://archive.org/details/the-assassination-of-new-york/mode/1up
https://youtu.be/jOEw8Np0CJY
a whole video on the numerology of 9/11 from the maker of the gematria calculator
the wtc represented solomon's temple, and it's destruction is supposed to bring forth the messiah.
tisha baav is the 9th day of the 11th lunar month by the secular calendar
>Messianic Birth: It is taught that the Messiah was born on the very day the Temple was destroyed. This is based on the concept that the Moshiach (Messiah) and the concept of Redemption were "born" on Tisha B’Av, as the destruction removed the physical barriers to a higher spiritual level of redemption.
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>>536829818
Which year did PKD first experience VALIS?

And can you think of anything else notable which took place that year?
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Here's Saklas again

‘When the Messiah comes, we'll stone all secular Jews’: rabbis attack Israeli law, IDF enlistment

Prominent ultra-Orthodox rabbis question duty to obey state laws at Netivot anti-enlistment conference targeting IDF tracks designed for Haredi men

Heehee It's Saklas :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8 [
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Sparks of divine light do, however, come through usually at perfect timings

New video to show you

https://youtu.be/r8eMoxo4ipE?t=47
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>>536830367
HAHAHAHA
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>>536829990
had to look it up, 1974
this might be easier if you just tell me
the idea of God being a machine or part machine goes back to gnosticism, which he clearly understood and knew about
tyrell and deckard together are the demiurge. tyrell is in samael mode, he is arrogant and is blind to what consequences await him. he lives in a pyramid, among the hylics and all the consumerist, saturnian ads. deckard, much like the terminator, is also the angel of death. gargamel, another jewy demiurge, has a cat called azrael which is the traditional name of the angel of death. jules and marcellus wallace have this relationship too.
batty is jesus and the gf is mary magdelene. replicants actually represent humans in this scenario, they have much shorter lives compared to the archons, etc.
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Put the children in a trance from Hellworld

Haha!

Heeheeeeeee :(
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>>536830509
Well in the book VALIS, PKD does a play on his name for his character

Horse Lover Fat.
Philip (Horse Lover) Fat (Dick in German)

1974 is when PKD made contact with VALIS.

In 1974 Phillipe Petit (Little Horse Lover, this time with French “Petit” for little) a famous funambulist walked a tight rope across the Twin Towers.

VALIS is the Vast Active Living Intelligence System
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It's Saklas. He's an architect who directs the course of human history using wars before setting up the conditions socially. He can also essentially manifest human bodies and shape them out of thin air.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&start_radio=1
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>>536831318
Are flowers fallen too in Gnosticism?
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>>536831163
that's pretty cool. never would have guessed

1+9+7+4=21
21=3x7, for our purposes 777. if you look up 777 you see "
>"The Flaming Sword," if the path from Binah to Chesed be taken as = 3. For HB:G connects Arikh Anpin with Zauir Anpin
what are these? the big and small faces of God. the 777 connects them, like the rope connects the towers!
>Arikh Anpin (Macroprosopus) and Zauir Anpin (Microprosopus) are connected through a dynamic of divine emanation and reflection within Kabbalistic theology. Arikh Anpin, representing the Divine Will and Keter (Crown), is the macroscopic source that extends a white shining emanation to fashion the head of Zauir Anpin, which represents the emotional attributes and the six lower sefirot.

>The connection is characterized by interdependence: Zauir Anpin shines only by the reflection of Arikh Anpin, and when Zauir Anpin looks back to its source, it restores order to the inferiors and temporarily extends its own countenance to resemble the vastness of the Ancient of Days. This relationship illustrates the flow from pure mercy (Arikh Anpin) to the balanced blending of kindness and severity (Zauir Anpin).
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>>536831625
should have posted this, the path of the flaming sword or lightning
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>>536831625

I thought you would have made an association with Da’at and crossing the abyss (The Funambulist)


>Da'at is the "hidden sefirah" of Knowledge on the Qabalistic Tree of Life. It is the abyss separating the higher divine triad (the Supernals) from the lower sefirot, acting as a profound threshold where objective knowledge is transformed into pure spiritual understanding


Are you a practitioner of Kabbalah?
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>>536831687
If you used to Google “fell to earth as lightning in Hebrew”, it would take you to tweet about the NSA. Many years ago.

Do you know which church in France Asmodeus resides in now?
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>>536805945
jesus himself was a cocaine addict so who cares nigga
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>>536832001
nice numerals
>da'at
i was just working with the numbers, and the abyss between the buildings is something i hadn't considered. also it's late here and i've been hitting the incense. going from one end to the other involves crossing the abyss, but i hadn't considered the parallel with the actual act. i was more focused on the rope
i am looking a lot of this up on the go and am learning a ton, so thank you.
i'm not a practitioner, no. i study it when i can, mostly from an occult perspective and how the masons, christians, etc view it, as it's what is shown in the media all day every day. the jewish part is taken and bastardized, polluted for their purposes. i haven't even read the zohar. basically i see a concept being displayed, or something i think is a ritual, and start digging. knowledge gained this way is, by its nature, spotty.
btw a good abyss scene is the battle of do lung bridge in apocalypse now. kurtz is the demiurge, willard is jesus. going up the river/tree of life to keter.
so the bride crosses the watery abyss, right? every soldier there is black, btw. when you cross the abyss, apparently there's this nigga choronzon who you have to fight to get through. he is basically your shadow self. so zelda 2 ending, right? this is sometimes called the dark night of the soul. and that's what it was thanks to all the black people, the dark night of the soul.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choronzon
>Choronzon is a demon that originated in Enochian magic. In the 20th century he became an important element within the mystical system of Thelema, founded by Aleister Crowley, where he is the "dweller in the abyss",[1] believed to be the last great obstacle between the adept and enlightenment. Thelemites believe that if he is met with proper preparation, then his function is to destroy the ego (causing ego death), which allows the adept to move beyond the abyss of occult cosmology.
choronzon gematria=333
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>>536832628
I’m reading Crowley’s version on Google.
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>>536832628
If you read about Augustine’s Memoria you don’t even have to cross an abyss.
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In De Trinitate, Augustine seeks the Imago Dei (the Image of God) not in the physical world, but within the highest part of the human soul: the mind (mens). He lands on a brilliant psychological triad: Memory (Memoria), Understanding (Intelligentia), and Will (Voluntas).

For Augustine, these three are not separate faculties working like gears in a machine. They are consubstantial, co-eternal, and equal—a finite mirror of the Infinite Trinity. They interpenetrate perfectly: I remember that I understand and will; I understand that I remember and will; I will to remember and understand.
2. The Vastness of Memoria and the Eternal Presence
To Augustine, "Memory" is vastly superior to a mere filing cabinet for past events. It is the deep, luminous ground of consciousness itself. It is the raw presence of the soul to itself.
The Latent Presence: Augustine argues that before we even actively think about a concept (like truth, beauty, or mathematical laws), those realities are already latently present in the vast caverns of memoria. We do not look outside ourselves to find God; we re-discover Him inherently structured within our own memory.

The Seat of the Divine Mirror: Because memoria contains the uncreated truths that make thought possible, it is the primary anchor for the Imago Dei. It is an open window to the eternal. The soul does not need to look backward in time to find God; it looks downward into its own foundational memory, where God is dynamically present as the Sustainer of being.
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People stuck in this plane take care of this plane and he hates you if you're poor and trashy.

The guy can literally control your mind especially by using pain. Then he killed me and my body stinks but something else is keeping me alive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8&list=RD4Ysg7d1bjQ8&start_radio=1
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. Aquinas and the Shift Toward the "Proto-Cartesian"
Centuries later, Thomas Aquinas re-structured Christian theology by blending it with Aristotelian empiricism. In doing so, he radically redefined the soul’s architecture, accidentally setting the stage for Descartes.
The Aristotelian Re-structuring
Aquinas rejected the idea that the soul has innate access to divine truths buried in a cosmic memory. Instead, he maintained that "nothing is in the intellect which was not first in the senses." * Memory Downgraded: For Thomas, memory (memoria) belongs primarily to the sensitive part of the soul, not the highest intellectual part. It becomes an archive of sensory impressions and past experiences.
The New Triad: Aquinas shifts the Imago Dei away from Augustine’s triad and refocuses it on the Intellect and Will acting upon the knowledge of God. The image of God is realized when the mind actually knows and loves God, rather than being an inherent, structural presence within a deep memory.
The Loss of the Eternal Presence
By turning memory into a repository for things that happen in time, Aquinas severed the Augustinian link between memory and eternity.
From Being to Function: In the Thomistic view, the mind becomes an instrument that processes data from the outside world. The Imago Dei becomes a potential to be actualized by thinking correctly, rather than an omnipresent, deep-structure reality within the soul's silent depths.
The Cartesian Bridge: This is precisely where the "Cartesian form" begins to crystalize. By isolating the intellect as a faculty that observes, processes, and wills based on conceptual data, the stage was set for René Descartes. Descartes would later strip away the scholastic metaphysics entirely, leaving only the isolated, self-contained Cogito ("I think, therefore I am")—a mind entirely cut off from the eternal ground of memoria, trapped in its own immediate, linear processing.
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By moving the Imago Dei out of the silent, eternal depths of memoria and placing it into the active, conceptual mechanics of the intellect, the Western tradition shifted from a mysticism of abiding presence to a philosophy of cognitive awareness
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It's Saklas
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>>536832967
>babe of the abyss
like what happens to dave in 2001. in the weird french bedroom scene, the tablecloth when he sits down to eat is shaped like a masonic apron. the little pod ship has a templar cross on it too. david is the og messiah in the bible too. hal has one all seeing eye. just going point form here, i need to go to sleep soon.
>the fall
vader
also a movie called the fall which is pretty good, worth a watch
>>536833098
>If you read about Augustine’s Memoria you don’t even have to cross an abyss.
thelemites hate him! find out why!
>>536833185
>The Latent Presence: Augustine argues that before we even actively think about a concept (like truth, beauty, or mathematical laws), those realities are already latently present in the vast caverns of memoria. We do not look outside ourselves to find God; we re-discover Him inherently structured within our own memory.
this nigga ripping off plato. world of forms. also similar to akashic records. or an elder scroll for that matter.
>>536833533
ooh check
listen anon i have to go
it's been mind blowing take care and God bless you
if you have anything else to add i will read it when i wake up
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>>536805945
No. Stop doing drugs and acting like a narcissistic faggot. Go to confession and repent. Attend a TLM with serious people
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

Go Saklas
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>>536806939
ironically, in corinthians, the context of the passage you jusy quoted
liberty in Christ is a major theme
while restraint is considered for the sake of others
for example, Paul says all things are permissible
but not profitable to the self and possibly detrimental to other Christians
nowhere does it say be arbitrarily sober all the time
later Paul goes on to implore sobriety (in one of his letters to Peter)
as a means to guard against the wiles of the devil
whom is constantly seeking to lead believers astray
therefore, it seems obvious that ancient Christians
would have possibly allowed cannabis consumption in certain contexts
like not at the childrens table at a meal
or in the congregation of new believers for example
its not too much of a stretch to imagine early christians
toking up or getting a bit buzzed from wine
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What else can I really do? It's Saklas
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Eventually he will run out of oil and then his whole system will collapse and that's when the fun begins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8

A world of illusions
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Vaccines? Poisoned food? Cancer? Diseases? Illnesses?

Saklas

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ysg7d1bjQ8
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>>536805945
The Bible says: "Gather the herb of the field".
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>>536805945
you aren't supposed to defile the temple of God, that said, if the alternative is to go to a whore house, its better to be high, and hearing the word of God, than high and committing adultery.
lesser of two evils, though the first (being high) may be sin against your own body.
anyways, so long as you remain orderly, i wouldn't care.

though theres this. >>536806939
but not every gathering is to partake of the lords supper, still, one should attempt to remain sober and of sound mind.

not everyone can, at first, but that is the end goal, that's why i said i wouldn't mind, so long as you/others like you work towards that goal.
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>>536806457
I think the OT also says that anyone smoking the church's incense is to be put to death.
there's an esoteric exoteric thing. the reality is mushrooms and weed but that only works among the "elect" or enlightened or whatever and the masses would just be zombed out retards.

once a year in a very limited capacity after much prayer and reflection, entering into the holy of holies is good for the entire congregation.

but 420 blaze it faggot before your communion is something AJ Soprano would do.
>set and setting
context anon. don't be silly.
>>536806005
this is compelling and interesting.>>536809127
>polyp
I had to imagine the kind of person using a term like that and polyp is probably pretty accurate.
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>>536810534
dont excuse idolatry, anon, sure, christi-chan is cute, but we should keep her in check.

that said, i wouldn't consider her an idol either, she's just cute to look at but at the same time, its preferable to avoid confusion by bring her into these conversations, especially when 4chan is under the watchful eye of idolaters
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>>536813545
>in a dream
you mean vision, which others partially saw and heard.
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>>536806457
>>536806939
>>536841771
All herbs bearing seed.
Man, fuck you niggers.
Not even you can enjoy one another’s company.
Weed isn’t alcohol.
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>>536826753
that image. lol.
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>>536809226
wtf is a shekel
>about 13 lbs.
converting one unit while leaving a nonsense unit? come on stoops
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>>536805945
Yes it's permitted, especially if you are gay like me.
Pakistan jindabad, come join our bachabazi brotherhood.
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>>536805945
Dont know about weed but my mother was dating a chorister at Windsor castle. A royal residence. I resided in there for a bit. Dropped acid there once and went to Christmas mass. top keks



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