I think this is insanely basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keLfbZNBMyw
>>536814443what's wrong with downs?
>>536814443I think death threats are warranted just for calling themselves an "influencer couple."
>>536814443It's just funny because they refuse to say the r word (retarded) but are ok with killing one.
>>536814443as a man how do you accept yourself looking like that
>>536814538>saying that while looking at meRude
>>536814538Incredibly based.>>536814546Asmongold said it best, they provide no value to society.
>>536814443I've known teens and young adults with down syndrome. They don't do drugs, commit crime, resent their parents, have children out of wedlock, or harm anyone in anyway. That in itself makes them better than most kids these days. A down syndrome child is preferable to a whore or a drug-dealing son by a wide margin.
"I hate sex havers and I think that they should be forced to raise their genetically defective offspring. It's what they fucking deserve for getting laid when nobody will fuck me">incels and other spiteful mutants on the internet
>>536814899None of the things you mentioned are as burdensome to society as being downs.A kid who plays mailbox baseball in highschool, does cocaine in college in a frat, becomes a productive member of society in the corporate world, and maybe has a bad relationship with their parents... still provides value to society economically. Especially if they have kids, they proliferate their good genes.Downies are just burdens.
>>536814546>what's wrong with downs?I dunno but in my 7th grade gym class there was this downie named Caitlin, and this gay kid with muscular dystrophy named Bryan who could command her to flash her tits during class, which he did whenever the PE teacher was busy with something.
>>536814546the problem is they prove humans are not interchangeable capital units even within 1 peoplehood, they challenge the very narrative of the system that we are just taxable labor
>>536814443Why cant we use them as sex toys once they reach legal age?When you are shoving your dick down a female's throat and then blasting a load into her stomach, it really does not matter if she has a mental disability, that would be discrimination if you did not empty your balls with the full force of contempt.
>>536814443they made the right choice. a special needs child takes time, money, and resources to care for it it's whole life. terminating ASAP is something everyone should do
>>536814443As they should, good call. In a world where you can barely afford one kid, it has to be the best chance you can provide. Is it murder? Maybe, but I would murder someone to preserve the future of my family so who gives a shit. Pretty sure plane tickets to India and Africa are available if anyone needs to hang out around a bunch of room temperature IQ folks.
Virtue signalling Christians are welcome to set up organisations to adopt, raise and be burdened by window licking retards. We all know they want. They're pro-life right up to the point when they're actually on the hook for raising some useless retard.
>>536815029You can classify most people as burdensome in one way or another. If you are assessing human value based on productivity, most people should be killed.
>>536815714literally me
>>536816174Stop splitting hairs, faggot. You know for a fact that your would abort a downie if given the chance. Save us the song and dance.
>>536815696> retard-bearing woman's breastmilkI wonder what that's got to taste like? I bet it tastes like McDonalds milkshake with candy!
>>536816174How?If the average person was a net drain, society would collapse. I suppose it's theoretically possible for a majority of people to be burdensome and supported by a minority, but realistically even people within a standard deviation lower of the mean in terms of IQ can provide value through manual labor or retail or something.
>>536814443Based, imagine having influencer parents
>>536814443cowards
>>536814443God will punish them unfortunately
I do not ground moral worth in DNA or biological life alone. I ground it in personhood, understood as the real capacity for experience, agency, and self-authorship that makes morality intelligible at all. This centers on reason, self-awareness, and autonomy. They are the necessary conditions under which morality (and the language to convey it) itself becomes possible. Without self-awareness there are no genuine counterfactuals, no lived sense that one could have done otherwise, and therefore no meaningful application of ought. One cannot cognitively register the gap between what simply is the case and what ought to be the case unless one can first entertain alternative possibilities that a self-aware agent might have chosen instead; absent that capacity, normative claims have no purchase because there is no perspective that could grasp or respond to them as binding. The relevant question is never simply whether the organism is biologically human. It is whether the neural substrate required for this kind of personhood has yet emerged.In the first trimester that substrate is clearly absent. The brain has not achieved the integrated cortical organization necessary for any form of awareness. There are no functional thalamocortical networks, no large-scale coordination across regions that could support a subject capable of reasoning or self-reference. By the second trimester, especially from around twenty weeks onward, the developmental picture begins to shift. Major brain regions differentiate, thalamocortical connections start to form, and processes such as exuberant synaptogenesis accelerate. Even at this stage the system remains profoundly immature. The architecture associated with self-awareness and higher cognition, including the frontoparietal and medial cortical systems, is only beginning to come into view as plausible rather than fully operational. This development unfolds as a continuous and gradual process across a series of developmental thresholds.1/x
>>536816648If the aim is to err on the side of caution with respect to potentially morally relevant agents, the more prudent cutoff falls at the end of the first trimester. We know with confidence that the relevant substrate is not present then. By the late second trimester the situation becomes genuinely transitional and increasingly uncertain, such that one can no longer say with the same assurance that every trace of the relevant capacities is entirely absent. This framing respects the gradual nature of development while preserving a clear moral window.It recognizes distinct centers of experience and agency as real loci of self-determination, and it extends consistent regard to beings that are similarly situated in the relevant respects without special pleading. Where no capacity for self-determination exists, there is simply no self-determining agent whose integrity could be diminished. The focus therefore stays where it belongs: on whether self-determination is possible in principle for the being in question, and thus whether morality can meaningfully apply at all. This is not a denial of the value of biological life in general. It is a recognition that moral consideration attaches to the kind of entity for which moral thought itself can even make sense or apply at all.This approach proves compatible with our deepest intuitions when the issue is pressed with concrete thought experiments. Presented with a choice between a thousand fertilized eggs and one teenager, nearly everyone saves the teenager. Presented with a choice between a thousand fertilized eggs and a genuinely self-aware android, the same pattern holds and the underlying logic becomes explicit. What ultimately matters is not bare biological aliveness. It is being the kind of entity to whom morality itself can attach, a being capable of perspective and self-directed agency in our entropic, temporally asymmetric world.2/3
>>536816683This approach does not pretend absolute metaphysical certainty about every detail of development. It proceeds fallibly, acknowledging thresholds rather than demanding an impossible bright line. Yet it supplies a coherent and prudent basis for protecting early abortion while remaining fully consistent with the deeper commitment to the integrity of actual persons. This results in a position that safeguards self-determination where it exists without arbitrarily extending it where the relevant conditions have not yet been met.3/3
>>536814538disabled people are burdens on societysociety sees it as immoral to refuse burdens, as an insurance in case you or i become a burdenthis does *not* translate into taking voluntary burdens like birthing an eternal toddlerinstead, have three healthy children in their place, who will actually provide value
>>536816648>>536816683>>536816750consciousness is fundamental anywayread chalmers' early work on the topic: https://consc.net/papers/facing.htmlany given physical thing neither entails nor precludes consciousnessit's necessarily wrong to destroy something that is not and never has been consciousthat said, the obvious cutoff is after the first month plus a few weeksi have no patience for women who delay and procrastinate before aborting
>>536818069>it's necessarily wrong*not* necessarily wrong, i mean
>>536818069>>536818105I think up to the second month is pretty much a safe line (basically the embryonic stage), but usually the discussion is divided in trimesters.Gonna check his early work (not a fan of some of his positions thougbeit).
>>536818488>not a fan of some of his positions thougbeithis latest book is peak midwit and ignores his much stronger early work
>>536814443Most people that have autistic kids or kids with disabilities have a specific deficient look in their face. It's bad genetics. They usually can't tell because people tend to think well of themselves, but, they are clearly deficient.
>>536814443why the fuck are you posting about this every day
>>536814443how high does her body count have to be to settle for that ugly fuck
>>536814546i bet she fucks like a possessed whore
Of course its the most logic thing to do. No one wants to give birth to a goddamn radio because it's a life sentence whereas you can't casually kick it out at 18.
I once taught a down syndome jewish child (we were hosting a Jewish school) in my swim class. I challenge anyone to not be pro-abortion after dealing with this kid. I could have held his head under water and performed a late term abortion right there and then.
>>536814443If you consume content from people openly called “influencers”, you are bottom of the barrel goymeat
>>536814443The world needs more retards, the entire continent of Africa isn't enough.
>>536814443how much you wanna bet it was actually a black baby and she lied to her husband? funny thing is a downy would've been a lot less trouble and expense than a downwiddit
>>536814443Fakeroom is a fecaloid
>>536815029Our country can only prosper once your ilk die off.
