Jehovah's Witnesses here, AMA
>>536830913I can't keep up anymore, is refusing to fight for Ukraine good or bad according to the brain trust of the board?
They tackle the guy and throw him in a van. Where does refusing it come in?
This won't get your org unbanned over here
>>536831007the more jewish coded people are, the more people seem to love EU becoming the ultimate soviet union 2.0and the notion of ruining our economy and energy effiency around Europe for a small jewish couped country.we've reached such a condition that theres no strongpoints left with an inevitable inflation coming.they already received loans and keep receiving loands that will never be paid back, nobody thinks that it will.everything is going to suck for europe, regardless of the outcome.but worst of all, ukraine somehow winnning? we'll get an israel that right in between west/eastern Europe.
>>536830913Non trinitarians roast in hell.
I'm still mad at you faggots for knocking on my door
>>536831147When they throw you to basic training or even the front lines.
>>536831007Jehovahs witness weirdos are just against military service in general. I'm not saying that's a good or a bad thing or that they're weird for that fact alone. But it's how it is. I'm not even sure what OP's angle on this is but I can tell that he's a homosexual.
>>536831628We don't need your approval to preach the Good News of God’s Kingdom in Russia. If we have to do it illegally and underground then so be it.>“We must obey God as ruler rather than men.”—ACTS 5:29.>(Matthew 23:10) Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ.>(John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”>Luke 4:5-7 - 5 So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time; 6 and the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”>1 John 5:19 - 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.>(John 17:16) They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.We are to subject ourselves to human governments relatively only. That means show the proper respect to all government officials, to the police, to the courts, to the IRS. Obey government traffic laws and pay all fines. However, if Caesar demands what belongs to God that's where we disobey
I don't know if you know this but Ukraine actually has a huge Jewish population how many of those young men have been drafted?
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>>536832083None. It's wn open secret that all Jews are exempt from military services. I don't know why the rest of the Ukrainians don't just follow what JW are doing and just don't participate. You are going to die anyways might as well die not dying for Israel.
>>536832015Being Gay is an abomination and Jewish.
>>536831868>Jesus didn't deal with politics. Was that edited out of the JW bible?
>>536831802When we quit knocking is when you will have a reason to worry.
>>536830913>Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to fight for UkraineLOL you can say jews on here dude
>>536832496When Jesus spoke to a politician this is what he said:>(John 18:36) ...“My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”This is Jesus and God's attitude towards his followers living in the world back then and today.>(John 17:16) They are no part of the world, just as I am no part of the world.>(John 15:19) If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU.>(James 4:4) Adulteresses, do YOU not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.>(1 John 2:15) Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him;>(Romans 12:2) And quit being fashioned after this system of things, but be transformed by making YOUR mind over, that YOU may prove to yourselves the good and acceptable and perfect will of God.So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:CONTINUED
>>536832496>>536832646So you are not supposed to be involved with this world's affair at all. Here's why:>1 John 5:19 - 19 We know we originate with God, but the whole world is lying in the [power of the] wicked one.>Ephesians 2:2 - , , 2 in which YOU at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.>John 16:10,11 - 10 then concerning righteousness, because I am going to the Father and YOU will behold me no longer; 11 then concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been judged.>John 14:29, 30 - 29 So now I have told YOU before it occurs, in order that, when it does occur, YOU may believe. 30 I shall not speak much with YOU anymore, for the ruler of the world is coming. And he has no hold on me,>John 12:30, 31 - ” 30 In answer Jesus said: “This voice has occurred, not for my sake, but for YOUR sakes. 31 Now there is a judging of this world; now the ruler of this world will be cast out.>Luke 4:5-7 - 5 So he brought him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time; 6 and the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and the glory of them, because it has been delivered to me, and to whomever I wish I give it. 7 You, therefore, if you do an act of worship before me, it will all be yours.”>(2 Corinthians 4:4) among whom the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.The devil is the true ruler of the entire world. Not God and not Jesus. All politicians, parties, regimes, corporations, and religions answer to him. You are not supposed to try to change the world. That would make you enemies with God and allies with Satan.
>>536832545Unlike Jews who are exempt from military services, JW are getting arrested and being thrown in prison for refusing military services.
>>536832083asking your question over there is not only illegal but the consequences are worse than half of your state's penal code
>>536830913but you guys are always that way
>>536832799>All that JohnDamn, and "My Kingdom is not of this world" didn't make the cut?
>>536833958It's in the first post >>536832646>>536833827Good, anything besides dying for Jews
>>536831868BasedI dont share every single point of view with the JW but I say you have many accurate and based onesIts obvious that a global free masonic and satanic clique rules the world and control all sides and its painfully obvious they rejoice at the death of the masses who go and die for no reason at all, so If you are a truly believer in God why would you engage in such satanic charadeThe problem is this, peaceful resistance is pointless when blood thirsty NPCs want you to die for their favorite free-masonic puppet
>>536832022Based. The only army worth serving in is the Lamb’s holy army. The kings of the earth are doing Satan’s bidding.
>>536833258You state department homos suck at getting based points. Help israel expel the arabs from gaza and the west bank or you're losing the war in ukraine
>>536831868>basic training lmaoooooyou are shipped to your designated trench and sit there, in the mud.you will die by concussion from the shockwave of a bomb that you will never see coming.your role as a soldier is not to kill, is not to shoot, or to do anything in particular, but it is to occupy a space so the air force must bomb you before they send the soldiers to storm your trench. You getting bombed gives time to the hidden drone operator to try to kill some of those soldiers before he runs away as bombs/drones finally come from him as he gets spotted and targeted.if lucky, the storming soldiers die, then the trench is not taken, and another soldier will be shipped to your old spot; otherwise, if the trench is taken, rinse and repeat to the trench behind. don't you like drone warfare?
>Be JoHo>Be born in country, is basically your home>Said home gets invaded by an enemy that proves to be existential threat>Rather than having to accept the sacrifice and fight or flee, you do take the nonsensical position and just refuse to do anything knowing that your invaders are probably gonna treat you far worse than a jail ever wouldI dunno man I'll never understand them. Digging your heels into the ground and refusing to do literally anything in the face of an existential thread is just basically nihilism dressed in a godly dress. Fight or flight, it's human nature but Jehovas prove that you can fly in the face of nature itself and show that pointless suicide is an option too. I'd say JoHo's should just make their own country but given their beliefs they'd probably just be conquered within the year. The religion makes no sense.
>>536830913Are you a witness for the prosecution or the defense?
>>536834667>The religion makes no sense.It does when you understand the resurrection. >(John 5:28, 29) Do not marvel at this, because the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.>(Acts 24:15) and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteousWe don't fear man's threats nor weapons because there's nothing man can do beyond physical harm and threats. The hope for the resurrection is there.
>>536834667It's a shunning and financial exploitation cult where you lose access to your family if you step out of line, Russians would be doing them all a favor if they invaded and banned the organization
>>536835581The defense is Jehovah God, the prosecution is Satan. We are witnesses that Satan slandered Jehovah.
>>536834667There are two issues at stake. Those two issues are why God allowed the world to fall apart temporarily: Sovereignty and Integrity. >SovereigntyWhen the snake(Satan) approached Eve again he told her that God was lying and that she WOULD NOT DIE if she ate the fruit. That she would know good and evil and become like God herself. That's why Satan's name is Satan the Devil. It's not his real name. Nobody knows his real name. Satan means "Slanderer" and Devil means Rebel. He was the first to lie, the first to slander and blasphem God, and the first to rebel. Why did Satan want Adam, Eve, and himself to rebel? Because of Sovereignty. The right to rule. Satan STOLE God's sovereignty over humanity by tricking Adam and Eve that THEY would be their own sovereigns themselves by knowing good and evil and "become like God." They would govern themselves and decide their own moral code. God could have destroyed the rebels but he chose not to so they could present their challenge.>Can man rule himself and give himself paradise given time?>Can Satan rule mankind and be their God instead of Jehovah?>Can man bring himself into prosperity, peace, order, and happiness by himself?These were all challenges to God's sovereignty. So God stepped back, let mankind rule themselves, while the devil secretly ruled them. God's challenge to them and all currently mankind is "prove it."CONTINUED
>Johns gosple very strongly implies a trinity>Doesnt believe in the trinityRetards
>>536834667>>536835884Integrity>(Job 1:8) And Jehovah went on to say to Satan: “Have you set your heart upon my servant Job, that there is no one like him in the earth, a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad?”>(Job 1:9-11) At that Satan answered Jehovah and said: “IS IT FOR NOTHING JOB HAS FEARED GOD?" 10Have not you yourself put up a hedge about him and about his house and about everything that he has all around? The work of his hands you have blessed, and his livestock itself has spread abroad in the earth. 11But, for a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch everything he has [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face.”>(Job 2:4,5) But Satan answered Jehovah and said: “Skin in behalf of skin, and everything that a man has he will give in behalf of his soul. 5) For a change, thrust out your hand, please, and touch as far as his bone and his flesh [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face.”After Adam Eve, Cain Abel, Noah Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah and RIGHT BEFORE the rise of Moses and the 10 Plagues was the issue of Job. At the time JOB WAS THE ONLY GOD APPROVED PERSON ON EARTH. That's right, nobody was good on Earth except Job. Satan noticed that for a while there always continued to be humans loyal to God and wondered why. He reasoned up above that it was because God was bribing them with rewards, pleasures, and nice things. That humans were only loyal to God for rewards and not for sincere love of him. Satan challenged God in from of the angels to "thrust out your hand" and "hurt" him. Deny him all good things and watch as how Job turns against him. "Skin on behalf of skin" means that a man will throw away all of God's moral standards to save their own life. So God has allowed Satan to inflict pain and suffering on humanity to prove that humans will be loyal to God IN RETURN FOR NOTHING.Good news though. This system of pain in suffering is almost over.
>>536835953It's ironic how God has always been very candid about everything in the Bible. Yet the Trinity continues to be "a mystery" as pastors say. It's suspicious how every mystery was eventually revealed yet the Trinity still relies on "heavy implication" as you say. You would think God or Jesus would have plainly stated and admitted such an argument as the accuracy of their nature.
>>536834461Don't worry, God’s going to expel EVERYONE on earth.
>>536834456Yup
>>536833566>8 years in prison Based way to escape the draft
>>536834167>The problem is this, peaceful resistance is pointless when blood thirsty NPCs want you to die for their favorite free-masonic puppetCorrect, but we are not resisting human organizations.>>536835956 It's Satan that's attacking us because we are proving him wrong. He wants to proves humans are only loyal to God out of self-preservation. We will prove that our loyalty is to the death.
>>536835677Brother! Don't lust after our sisters like that Jehovah God won't approve
>>536830913Why do you believe in retarded bullshit for faggots that's obviously a pyramid scheme? Follow up: do you have a good recipe for potato salad?
>>536836492What's wrong with their portrayal?
>>536830913>Jehovah's Witnesses here, AMAAre you black?
>>536837109you know very well why you're posting them like that
>>536832022Jehovah's witnesses don't post on /pol or are even allowed to read this board so what the hell are you doing here sister? JW's are the Noahide law cucks of the jews and free masons congrats on being the not so useful idiots of jews
>>536837135No
>>536837285No I'm not
>>536834167Lol, JW's are a Free-Masonic cult that gets the poors to follow Noahide law number 1. Jesus isn't God Jehovah is God
>>536835677Hello sisters
>>536830913>AMAOkay, why is the only 4chan ban I've EVER received, been because I posted in one of your JW threads about the sexual abuse of children and its relationship to the watchtower org?
Will you confess your sin of posting on 4chan to the elders brother?
>>536831007refusing to fight for the biggest poorest and most corrupt shithole in Europe is based.
>>536830913Those fuckfaces are exempt from the army in Finland as well. They should just be denied any societal services because apparently they're not willing to be part of it.
The power of Christ compels you
>>536837967No he's probably tricking them by pretending he's getting pioneer hours for the time spent in the threads. Modern day version of letter writing "publishing". Yeah for anybody who didn't know, JWs have a timesheet. Even "Auxilliary" pioneers have to do 30 hours preaching, regular pioneers even more. You can see why they'd want to pump their rookie numbers up by pretending they're penetrating the seedy underbelly of teh darkwebz
>>536837356>Matthew 25:13) “Keep on the watch, therefore, because YOU know neither the day nor the hour.>(Mark 13:33) Keep looking, keep awake, for YOU do not know when the appointed time is.>(Luke 21:36) Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that YOU may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man.”>(1 Thessalonians 5:6) So, then, let us not sleep on as the rest do, but let us stay awake and keep our senses.>(1 Peter 5:8) Keep YOUR senses, be watchful. YOUR adversary, the Devil, walks about like a roaring lion, seeking to devour [someone].>(1 Corinthians 7:31) and those making use of the world as those not using it to the full; for the scene of this world is changing.>(Mark 13:36) in order that when he arrives suddenly, HE DOES NOT FIND YOU SLEEPING.This is what /pol/ and JW have in common. /pol/ watches the scene of the world and ever-changing trends and events. We do the same. /pol/ calls it THE HAPPENING, we call it the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. As a Christian, it is your job to prepare for this.
>>536837967They already know I'm here. I have their blessings.
>>536838120Answered here>>536832646 and here >>536832799>>536838244I'm counting my hours.
>>536838244Shit I should start logging my hours then I'll make ministerial servant in no time, all the sisters will look at me for marraige
>>536838338....riiiiight I'll let my brother who's still in the org know that I'm actually Gods work here
>>536830913I'd refuse too, on either side. Ukraine is clearly in the right in this conflict, but I don't hold it against anyone for wanting to live.
>>536838467They can go jehoving in a ditch while starving for all I care. Selfish assholes like those still live in the real world and should be treated accordingly, not according to their made up non-existant religion.
>>536838700There is no right side in these events. There is only Satan's side in wars.
>>536830913I hate Ukraine and everything it stands for, good to see there are some OK Ukrainians. I hope that entire country is reintegrated into Russia and this fake identity clown show finally ends.
>>536838381lmao no you don't
>>536838798A nation moving in with tanks into your country, you have the moral right to fight them off. I'd imagine that an American would understand that, stand your ground and all. Of course the conflict is more complex than that, but Russia is clearly in the wrong going into Ukraine.
>>536838778Go die for Israel then. You don't have to believe in Jesus, God nor Satan. But you do acknowledge that the world has become a meat grinder and Israel is turning the handle.
>>536838882Finland has no reason to declare war on Israel nor they are declaring on us you absolute retard.
>>536838879>into your country>into your country >(Matthew 6:19-21) “Stop storing up for yourselves treasures upon the earth, where moth and rust consume, and where thieves break in and steal. 20Rather, store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes, and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.>(John 18:36) Jesus answered: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, MY ATTENDANTS WOULD HAVE FOUGHT THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED UP TO THE JEWS. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.”>2 Timothy 2:24-26-For a slave of the Lord does not need to fight, but needs to be gentle toward all, qualified to teach, showing restraint when wronged, 25instructing with mildness those not favorably disposed. Perhaps God may give them repentance leading to an accurate knowledge of truth, 26and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the Devil, seeing that they have been caught alive by him to do his will.There is nothing for a Christian to fight for. A Christians nation, land, and King are unreachable
>>536838879Here's a lengthier explanation on our refusal to participate in war. >>536832646 >>536832799
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>>536838928Go publicly denounce Israel and migrants. See what happens.
>>536838853It will end in Armageddon hopefully.
>>536837356you're righthe might be an ex Jehova's witnessjust like me.that's the only reason why he's in here.
>>536839557Im in good standing.
>>536839631Godspeed.Chris is King
>>536839699Who's Chris?
>>536830913Oy vey, be a good goy
>>536839631Yeah and I'm Nelson Mandela
>>536830913wtf i love russia now
>>536832083Plenty. But jews serve as commissars who provide ideological guidance for hohol slaves.
>>536830913Literally every Ukrainian I've met offline says the war is lost and their Kike leader should get hanged. The media discourse of "Ukraine will win if we keep pumping billions into the industrial complex" is genuinely evil.
>>536840734It's a meat grinder and Jews are turning the handle.
>>536840734The war was lost before it began and they're all stupid to believe they were anything but pawns of the West in an effort to simply mire Russia in a war of attrition. The same West that has been continually trying to divide the region and pit them against each other. It's hard to blame them though because they have been propagandized from the 90's for this purpose. Honestly they should be put in reeducation camps and I say this not out of malice, but literally for their own good. After they are already the victims of a soft reeducation camp and so much worse. Beyond sad to see an entire country devastated and so many die because muh evil pooptin ziggers etc. and all for what?
>>536830913how do I claim draft immunity for being a JW, like how deep do I gotta get, do I have to get a shaman to vouche for me or how does this work?
>>536833566>>536836396you know the webms of the guys just wandering about in the ukraine fields waiting to be droned? probably the antisemites tbqh
>>536842049Just throw yourself in jail. That's what all JW do.
>>536830913These coward even refused to participate in the Great Rwandan Negrocide.
>>536839947Chris is his boyfriend
