Just learned about this man. What are /pol/'s thoughts on Thomas Paine?
Idgi.
>>536831276>Just learned about this manWhat are you, 12?
Pretty based. Did a lot of writtings that helped get us free from our tyrant king. Also promoted deism which is an easily digestible version of being agnostic
>>536831431Wrong. He was a masonic propagandist. George III wasn't a tyrant and most of the colonists had no desire to break away until fuckheads like Paine conned them into it
Invented UBI
>>536831276Who is he, anon? Come on don't be a lazy nigger.
>>536831486You lost, loyalist
>>536831564One of the Founding Fathers
>>536831643are you winning, anon?
>>536831276friendless homo
>>536831276After getting high on the success of the American revolution, he shipped off to Feance to help seed the slow, humiliating death of the white race.
>>536831646No he wasn't Everyone hated this faggot and he never even signed the declaration
>>536831276>Just learned about this manYou have to be 18 to post here kid
>>536831772He wasn't even American, he only lived in the colonies long enough to write his propagandaDon't get me wrong, a lot of what he said was true, but that's how all shills operate
>>536831883I wish man.Add 10 to that.>>536831564>
>>536831772Neither did george washington retard
>>536831776I don’t care lol bye
>>536831276British libtard faggot tbqh.
>>536831276Paine should have been his middle name
>>536831692Every. Fucking. Day. Hope you are too
>>536831776I guess George Washington and James Madison arnet founding fathers either then huh dipshit?
Didn't he invent gay sex? I'm indifferent
>>536831276He was alive, now he is not. That's my thought
>>536831276He had some>common senseay? ay? c'monnnnn
>>536831431>deism>agnosticYou need to buy a dictionary
>>536831646>>536831776 I believe this anon saying he WAS NOT a founding father, due to his aeasome digies>17761776>17761776
>>536831417Any age you'd expect an American to know something about America, you can double it for Non-Americans.
>>536832234James Madison literally drafted it and Washington was at the convention along with being the commander in chief of the continental armystop being a retarded faggot libtard Paine wrote one pamphlet that people kinda liked and then wrote a bunch garbage that everyone hatedNo one even went to his funeral
>>536832498I would have went.He was high as a bandicoot
>>536831486George III of House Hanover's sister was married to the Prince of Hess, who committed Hessians to fighting the American rebellion. The court jew of house Hess was Rothschild, who apprenticed under the court jew of house Hanover, Simon Wolf Oppenheimer.If you want to know why a Rothschild bank somehow ended up the debtor of the United States, that would be the Freemasons' work. If you have 1 bullet and have to choose between a traitor and an enemy, shoot the traitor.When people talk of early US freemasonry, that was the vehicle that betrayed the United States but not all the passengers were complicit. That's how betrayal works. An enemy can't betray you, only someone you trusted can betray you. So finding the residue that Freemasonry was at the epicenter of a nation that was ultimately betrayed isn't that out of place.
>>536831276I'm grateful he invented the window paine. The man was a visionary.
>>536831417>>536831883He's Portuguese. Why would you expect him to know about about an 18th century British American propagandist?
>>536832498there was so much infighting and aristocratic clique bullshit at the foundation, its overlooked because it was in everyone's best interest to see the founders as a unifiable and idealized crew, but a lot of them were pieces of shit and had all kinds of conflicts of interest moving forward. Thomas Paine ended up being a sperg and something of a proto-communist about how things should go after the war was won. He wanted ideological philosophical perfection, other founders just wanted serve their own interests. Washington mostly just didn't want the country to fail, so he held his ground and didn't bother much with the shit the political faggots were doing to shape a republic out of the victory. The other founders, who were not soldiers, had isolated him by knocking down his circle of trust (Benedict Arnold for example, there were other instances of this kind of thing), out of some kind of fear that with enough support he would found a kingdom with himself on the throne.They managed to get a lot of shit right. That's the best thing you can say about the founders. They weren't perfect but there was a lot that went right there because they weren't retarded enough to fuck it up with too many loopholes and entitlements for themselves because they were paranoid of the other aristocrats. Some of them left loopholes though and had shit ideas that eventually paved the way for the old world to get back in the form of banks.
>>536833074Because British and American history shaped the world, whether you like it or not
>>536831276i don't think about him
>>536831276Just another Masonic demon
>>536833252Ultimately Thomas Paine was one of George Washington's circle, being that his notability came from the pamphlet remoralizing the troops at Valley Forge. He has no notability at all in the founding of the country beyond that, he was not significant in the constitution, the government or any role in statesmanship, and he think he resented that. He was a comrade of Washington, but Washington wasn't in the politician clique, he was a soldier and the martial clique had been reduced in influence by the time they were lawfagging out what the country would be.
>>536831276what are some good books on the Founders?
Jefferson is my favorite founding father. Haven't read many books about the founding fathers but there's quite a few documentaries. I can't recommend any documentary made in the last 10-15 years because there's been an insidious push of late to poison America's founding and characterize it as corrupt from the start (so let's write a new constitution without all that problematic stuff like the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th or 7th amendment)
>>536833784Young Folks History of the American Revolution
>>536833994Jefferson should have been king
>>536831417Do you know different countries have different syllabus?
>>536836211Who are your founding fathers?
>>536836266The aboriginals
>>536831276>Just learned about this man. What are /pol/'s thoughts on Thomas Paine?Brilliant, a little idealistic. His back and forth with Edmund Burke over Burke's commentaries on the French Revolution is worth studying. Paine felt that all men had an inherent right to self governance, Burke argued that the French unlike the Americans were not accustomed to governing themselves and being responsible for themselves and in the absence of the supreme authority of the French monarchy Burke figured everything would go to shit since the French lacked the cultural basis for liberty that the Americans had. Burke was right. We see reflections of his commentary today as we import more third worlders who are likewise lack a culture of personal accountability and are thus unsuited to living in a free society.
>>536831276He makes good English muffins
>>536836211That would be different syllabi, Raj
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>>536836425Sumimasen seppo-kun
>>536833784Have you tried reading the Federalist papers? Its a bunch of essays written by The Founding Fathers.
>>536836300Abos are not homo sapiens
>>536836552Fauna
>>536831486>George III wasn't a tyrant and most of the colonists had no desire to break away until fuckheads like Paine conned them into itThe seeds for the revolution were laid with the 7 Years War, the French and Indian war. The English crown forcibly conscripted American colonists to fight their French enemies in North America. Many of these enemies were French colonists who the then English colonists had been getting along with and trading with peaceably for decades. Now the colonists were being forced to fight and die in a war against people who they had no quarrel with because two European empires wanted to have a pissing match with each other.Once the American people saw that the English were going to pull them into their wars England ceased to be viewed as a protector and instead became a liability that would involve America in stupid imperial wars that didn't serve the interests of the American people (why does that seem familiar). The constantly increasing taxes that were required to pay the debts incurred by these imperial wars was merely the straw that broke the camel's back.Honestly the English could have avoided the revolution had they given the American colonies the representation they demanded in parliament; but once they refused, no taxation without representation served to drive a wedge between England and her colony that Parliament and George III made no effort to mend.
