IN SPAAACEData centers generate heat, space is cold. checkData centers need lots of electricity, it's always sunny in space, go solar. check Check my math, invest.
>>536837372won't workwe need to use fossil fuelsamerican law
>>536837372need a medium to radiate the heat away. space is a vacuum, the heat can't transfer away in open space like orbit.
>>536838203the sun is radiating heat in vacuum
most retarded idea ever. massive latency between earth and space. radiators dont function, chips need heavy lead sheilding from cosmic rays. no gravity so the bits cant flip normally and just float away from the motherboard
>>536837372Bits go flippppp
>>536838246its technically radiating radiation which just so happens to boil water.
>>536838281>radiators dont functionthey work just not as good>cosmic raysyou are still in the magnetosphere>float awayglue>latency yes
>>536838281Tell me about the bits flipping and needing gravity.
>>536837372Whatever happened to the google barges that were floating off the coasts? It seems like that would be the best way to cool a data center.
>>536837372Atmosphere is zero, heat doesn't transfer to empty space retard
>>536838246It's not radiation hear through transference it's emitting light another pol tard
>>536838203Radiation works. And energy radiation increases at like the cube of temperature. If you can figure out a way to get your radiators hot as fuck they don't even need to be that big. Remember, spacex is already running like 10k satellites in their starlink constellation right now and they're subject to similar constraints as a dedicated processing setup would be, only they don't need sophisticated RF broadcast hardware. I don't think there's another company with more experience with heat rejection in orbit than spacex at this point.
>>536838203The earth actually emits IR as well so the data centers will be spit roasted in leo. This is why global warming failed.
>>536838429Haha ikr fucken retarded, bits flipping out and shit in no gravity.... Literally has no clue how a semi conductor or solid state memory dimm simm ddr works
>>536837372Why not generate electricity from heat generated by data centers?
E=mc^2+AI
>>536837372what if something breaks?
>>536838668you de-orbit the junkif the de-orbiting bit breaks you just pile junk in orbit
>>536838668There will be spare data centers of course. We engineers call it redundancy.
>>536838246Thermal radiation and conduction are not the same thing dumb nigger
>>536838756radiating heatconducting heatsun is radiating heat
>>536838783>the space data centers will thermally radiate for coolingDoesn’t really work that way
>>536837372LolThere is a vacuum, so no way the heat from constant radiation from the sun and the eat from the silicone doing calculations can dissipate by air convection, which requires external cooling solutions then that must be gigantic and constantly maintainedThis is honestly until now the stupidest scam idea by musk rat and any investor falling for it proves that they are fools that deserve to be parted with their liquidity.
>>536838835how do you do thermal vision then
>>536837372>Spend a trillion dollars building data centers in space>defeated by north korea launching 20 million ball bearings into orbit going the other direction
>>536838866It's just a matter of scalability, bringing the cost to kilo in orbit down. The tiny problems of cooling and keeping the bits from flipping will be worked out on the way.
>>536838897Radiant heat transfer is slow as fuck. Hundreds if not thousands of times slower than using a coolant
>>536838897You can do radiative cooling in space, but it's much less efficient than even forced-air. You need ~10x the surface area than you would if you were just blowing air across it. And you cant really stack them like a heat sink because they radiate into each other.>>536838281>massive latencyStarlink is getting sub 50ms latency these days. Good enough for things that are compute heavy and not I/O heavy.The real issue is it's just not worth the cost of putting them up there. The orbital datacenter thing is an attempt to create more demand for satellite launches, which SpaceX just happens to sell.
>>536839074>A question of scale The energy source, the solar panels need to be gigantic, about the size of a 2 football fields, and the cooling solutions needs to be twice that size and then again cooling solution twice that size for the chips doing calculations. The scaling is retarded and that's not even accounting for maintenance. You would basically need a permanent station of technicians maintaining daily that retardation, with certain parts not able to be maintained.And that's not even going into replacing the chips to stay ahead of the game. The datacenter would likely be technically obsolete in 6-12 months and be mocked by terran datacenters with newer chips.Satellites work and stay relevant because they utilize highly specialized and specific silicone for one single purpose, not multi purpose requirements like "datacenters".Musk is scammer, always was never will be something different, but this is the most desperate and retarded scam I ever saw coming from that idiot. And honestly I don't give a shit if its private capital that gets wasted BUT as with the current "cloud AI" scam on earth, the risk was long socialized onto the public by bastard banks buying up trash bonds of "AI companies" and the bastards are now together with the banks screeching for public bail outsImo, musk, altman and everyone else in that circular ponzi scam deserve death now!
>>536837372Just launch an empty box, claim its a data center and sell compute from regular cheap data center on the ground. Collect investor money, dump stock on population, move to a next project.
>>536839521crafty hohol
>>536839440>Imo, musk, altman and everyone else in that circular ponzi scam deserve death now!The amazing thing is that it's all going to work, not the bullshit in space but the IPO, it's oversubscribed right now, millions of people desperate to fuck each other over, to get in and get a sucker to buy higher.
>>536839521There is just one problem with this approach, llms and generative models have long been commodified, their value is going straight toward 0. The scam is over, meta committed suicide over it, goolag crippled the competition and the chinese helped to. Cloud AI and closed source models a worthless by now compared to open source free models
>>536839712Then let them, its the perfect short in the midterm. That crap is going to bleed to 0 for the next decade, and as it falls right into the global debt ponzi collapse and the collapse of the circular "AI ponzi", this is going to be muskrats last scam before he is going to, if lucky removed from the public because he has become toxic and the last retard gets that this attention whore was always just a crafty scammerHe won't be able to sell anything anymore
>>536838355What do you know, my GPU also happens to boil water
>>536837372>hi support the sfp doesnt work>please reseat it or insert a new one>its in fucking space REEEEEEEE
>>536839440Spacex has revealed their plans for the AI1 satellite, essentially an orbital server rack designed to pull around 120–150 kW of power (roughly equivalent to a high-end Nvidia Blackwell ground rack)Spacex proposed data centers are for a fleet of these smaller centers to be mass produced, not one large one. Their plans show 70 meters in length.SpaceX’s reference math states that in a vacuum, their solar arrays capture about 250W/m2 of energy, but their double-sided radiators can vent heat at 1,400W/m2They know the gpus will become obsolete, and they plan to deorbit and replace them, they're disposable. Because they own Starship, the cost to launch mass into orbit is plummeting toward a projected sub $200 per kilogram.Instead of using heavy physical shielding, SpaceX heavily relies on software-level error correction and redundant hardware clustering (running multiple chips in parallel to constantly double-check calculations and catch bit-flips caused by cosmic rays)
>>536838519Those 10k sateliates combinesld use a tiny fraction, not even a percent of power of what a modern small data center uses.
>>536839074How did musk solve the basic issues of his hyperloop?
>>536838203They have magic high efficiency infrared radiators now. Can't tell you hell they work.State sekritJust invest
>>536838436Google has also revealed they will be building their own data centers for space, launched on Spacex rockets of course. But it's not just Elon.
>>536837372This thread is great because retards deserve to lose their money and give it to smarter people who scam them.
This is a bullshit grift, cooling in space is insanely inefficient.
>>536837372Just have a really long cable going to the powerplant. DuhhhHhh!
>>536838281The latency between the satellites are going to be around 3ms. Total user latency will be closer to 40ms full send receive cycle. A majority of the latency will actually be from the existing infrastructure.
>>536837372They want to build data centers in space for the same reason they build underground bunkers and own private islands; to be untouchable.
>>536837372>space is colddepends on where in space dumbass, like, let's say, far away from the sun
>>536837372I worked in datacenters for a long time. We had two guys who's only job was to fix failed hardware.
>>536837372>space is coldNo. Space is empty, meaning there is no medium to absorb the excess heat.
>>536838429Just shake your phone and watch the bits flip
>>536838897thermal imaging uses computer chips
>>536840571
>>536840571yeah that's what the eds leftoids on reddit keep screeching but the actual numbers say different. no satellite in space has ever needed more radiators than solar panels. the radiators can dump 1400 watts per meter, more than the watts the solar panels can bring in, 250 watts per meter.each data center will be essentially one server rack in size. flat. 70 meters in length. and launched by starship cheaply enough that these racks are disposable, de-orbited and replaced.Bitflip issue handled with software error correction and redundant hardware double checking calculations.It's all been figured out.
>>536839861The FTC is literally changing the rules so our 401k can buy Elons $1.7T IPO. I agree he is a scammer but he isn't going anywhere.
>>536838598Because you need a high delta T between the incoming and outgoing medium, most likely water.If you find CPUs and GPUs that can run at 800 degrees C I'm sure power generation would be implemented. It still would not produce nearly as much energy as was consumed though.
>>536840663Even then radiation is a real problem for spacecraft in orbit.
>>536840664Are they ready to get launched into space to fix datacenters in space?
>>536837372Space is cold, unless you're in the sun. Then it's extremely hot.Although space is irrelevant because we decided to babysit the third world instead of taking our rightful place in the stars. So I just pretend I think space is fake out of spite.
>>536837372Can anyone give a non dystopian reason for why we need to be devoting all of our resources towards data centers when half the populace can barely afford groceries?
>>536840230That's not the intended use of a GPU so the warrant won't cover any damages
>space is coldspace is a vacuum. without cooling you would boil to death in space, your own body heat would cook you. and then when out of heat your corpse would eventually freeze. so it's a little more complicated then "space is cold".
>>536840876Simple. You don't matter to the people with money and power.
They already unveiled the basic satellite design. It's all pretty standard stuff.The big leap is just being able to put thousands of them into orbit and connect via laser links.
>>536837372>Check my mathSpace is only cold when you're in the shade, and when you're in the shade you don't have solar.
>>536840687I tried that and now my phone is off and not starting again. How do I flip the bits back?
>>536840630I fart in your bunker vents and lazer your satellite receivers
>>536837372But isn't the only way to cool off in space through radiation, the least effective method of heat transfer?
>>536840876There is none. We're either going to succeed in cockblocking these things or we're gonna get to look at the brick wall at the back of the theater like Frank Zappa was talking about
>>536840876>why we need to be devoting all of our resources towards data centersIt's the current scam propping up the American economy
>>536840732thermal imaging uses thermal radiation it is just longer wave
>>536840876Computers do math and science which might improve some things
>>536840876It generates theoretical value and smart investors can turn that theoretical value into personal profit
>>536841015America is more than an (((economy))). Let it fall and we could perform a miracle, prop it up and we all die. Of course the small hats cannot survive without lies and so, since they are our rulers temporarily, they will never let it happen.
>>536841088>smart investors can turn that theoretical value into personal profitSmarter investors can turn theoretical value into personal grift.
>>536840972wow you're so smart! surely the retards at spacex never figured that out. if only they had you there to tell them this is all impossible. google too is wasting their time with orbital data centers so they don't have anyone smart enough to know this either!
>>536841030the thermal optics sites have explanations on how thermals work. 1% material 99% computer
>>536840426>Quotes marketing material like gospel Lmfao. Gtfo you retarded tool
>>536840630Putting them into space means they aren't bottlenecked by the electrical grid or water supply, and don't have to deal with construction approval, NIMBYs, and so forth. It lets them expand their total capacity a lot faster.
>>536839712I work at a broker dealer and this fucking IPO has been a goddamn nightmare for us. I can’t wait until tomorrow is over, fucking kill me
>>536840972Elons a billionaire and knows more about manufacturing than anyone else. Are you a Tech billionaire? I didn't think so.
>>536841172you got your math from some guys on reddit or youtube who are mad with eds over elon not validating trannies. saying shit like they need twice the square meters of radiators than solar panels despite no ship in space having ever needed more meters of radiators then solar.
>>536840768And? That is just incentivizing more people to take the one time hit and cancel the 401k scam on top of the smaller active population never paying into the scam. The ponzi is dead, and its hilarious the scammers suicided it for ELIZA bots that are totally commodified
>>536841265Baggie, its obvious you are a shill and likely have shit to lose when the retarded 20th century broadcast advertising methodology fails, so take your marketing material, shove it up your ass and go shit on fakebook, LinkedIn and other dead Boomer platforms with no reach
>>536841265You know he's planning to run data centers on these things, not just weirdo women with big hair.
>>536837372its just a fantasy to hype the IPOMusk has done this multiple times, hyping some new new thing to distract from theunprofitability of the last new thingthen merging the two when no one is lookingso the fraud will never be found outit is kind of geniusthe infinite money glitch
>>536841157>GoogleSort of, just as a research project. Google has funded many of these kinds of one-off research projects and there hasn't been any word on it since they announced it as part of their AI marketing last year. And yes, the marketing people at these companies can be retarded.
>>536841335how could i be a baggie for a stock that hasn't gone public yet. if anything i would be trying to talk people out of spacex to increase my odds of getting my requests for pre-ipo shares filled.
>>536841351Not quite. He now requires quasi public bail outs, that means not even the braindead tech illiterate investors and banker scum is falling for it anymore. Musk is out. And there is nobody else they could sell as a puppet on a string anymore.The game is over
>>536841428>The game is overhaha, he will be a trillionaire on Fridaythe con is long with this onebillions of suckers born every minute
>>536841414Nigger shill, take your fail p2p marketing attempts and redirect your bastard online advertising GenX mongoloid method to fakebook and LinkedIn. You are not able to fulfill your contracts
>>536837372you know what else is cold ? iceland...
>>536837372Space is hot. Unless you are hiding in the shade from the sun. At this range from the sun it is about 120 celcius.
>>536841470On paper. So? It doesn't change that the meta is dead. His game is over, so is the game in general. The 401k raid is suicide for the Keynesian marxist base layer
when these data centers in space become a reality it's going to cause a lot of cognitive dissonance from the people who said it's impossible and retarded. more likely they'll just pretend they never mentioned it and move on to saying the next totally doable thing is actually impossible. just as they used to say reusable rocket boosters was a retarded and impossible idea before spacex landed several hundred of them successfully.
>>536841584Early investor confirmed. Thanks for shilling.
>>536841584Retard. The banks are not even able anymore to find enough fools for loans to the scammers. Softbank planned on 10B loan for OpenAI and isn't even finding 5B.The game is over. The tech illiterate boomer investors you could sell>Ids da future Are out
>>536841679because spacex had no rabid fanboys like me before the ipo right?
>>536841584until they show a method to get rid of heat that looks like it works good its a meme
>>536837372Why not just put them at the bottom of the ocean instead?
>>536841741Sure sure.
>>536841728because of the technical hurdles around power generation and cooling of data centers on earth. you want data centers to stop burning fossil fuels and using lots of water then put them in space.
what if the big bang was a data center gone wrong
>>536841810Are you a fucking bot? It seems that way. You are just repeating a script. Seriously kys stupid fucking 2010s p2p advertising clown
>>536841766>until they show a method to get rid of heat that looks like it works good its a memehere you gohttps://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20080048181https://techport.nasa.gov/projects/118416https://www.1-act.com/resources/blog/the-next-generation-of-spacecraft-radiators/>>536841855you said that already>>536841795powered by what?
>>536841584>when these data centers in space become a reality it's going to cause a lot of cognitive dissonance from the people who said it's impossible and retarded. more likely they'll just pretend they never mentioned it and move on to saying the next totally doable thing is actually impossible. just as they used to say reusable rocket boosters was a retarded and impossible idea before spacex landed several hundred of them successfully.He already gave up on Mars after people realized it was just bullshit, same with the datacenters, but then there will be some new new thing to hype the stock, like robot sex slaves or somethinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8bEzOjFdYQ
>>536842057he didn't give up on mars, at all. literally never happened.
>>536842024Yes, obviously an advertising bot.Hilarious
>>536837372Space has no heat conductor to transfer heat. Arctic is more viable: no need to train technicians that would replace stuff. Still can use solars. It cold there
>>536842156you have no real argument then, got it
>>536842057The "hype" methodology simply doesn't work anymore. It relied on tech illiterate boomer and GenX investors falling for faked reach numbers and p2p advertising bot shilling. The idiots fucked themselves
>>536842202hence the radiators for radiative not conductive heating. newly developed radiators using carbon materials make data centers in space possible.
>>536842208What argument? That you are advertising scum? GenX retard, your methodology simply doesn't work on anybody under 50. You cannot fulfill your contract, your methodology has the opposite effect of intended
>>536842273>heatingi mean coolingthis was a typo to make me seem more human but as others have pointed out, i'm clearly a bot>>536842296the argument that new radiator technology exists that can do the job. you can't debunk that so you fall back on screeching about marketing bots. are these spacex marketing bots in the room with you right now?
>>536841229>>536841157So I hit the nail on the head. Why are Elon's goons scouring 4chan? Is his brain truly so minimal that he needs the lowest of the low to scrape from?
>>536842273>scifi babble to try to sell the myth to a bunch of /pol/tards aka dumb money for thr IPOWhy so desperate to convince us? Why tell everyone it's such a great investment and share the trade with everyone if you didn't need us to pump this shit?
>>536842347i've been upgraded from bot to goon>>536842369yeah cause its so weird to be able to find someone passionate about proving other people wrong on /pol/ right?
>>536842337>New tech>IDS DA FUTURE >so plox gibs liquidity and loans nowAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA And that's not even going into the fact that the generative model market has been totally commodified and the datacenter meme is dead as well on earth
>>536842405the agentic ai market hasn't been commodified yet. ai is just getting started, it doesn't begin and end in a chatbot in your browser.
>>536842523>The agenticAhahahahahahahahahaha More boomer marketing crapAhahahahahahahahahaha You GenX faggots are simply too slow. It has been commodified over the past roughly 6 months. Nigger I run agents on fucking 10 year old local hardware and it easily competes with API crap.You geezers are too slow for todays speed. Retire you retard
>>536842403>same response, yeah I'm just a fan, can't be a fan .......... right?Every time, the only response.
>>536842598I think he means they haven't actually sent anyone a real bill yet.
>>536842598Tool calling and loops don't even require a console these days. Point and click open source guis running on free models on 8 gb vram that are far more than enough to satisfy the demand of 99% of users The only idiots still propping up the failed ponzi are retarded enterprise customer that got scammed into multi year contracts
>>536838203>/pol/ attempts thermodynamics
>>536838519>Remember, spacex is already running like 10k satellites in their starlink constellation right nowStarlink satellite uses around 2 kW power continuously So whole constellation uses 20 megawatts draw, or 0.17 terrawatt*hours.In 2023 USA data centers used 176 terrawatt*hours of energy.
>>536842805This p2p advertising clown just shows the absolute state of the fail tech industry, that never in its 40 years of existence produced a positive cashflow from demand and whose only income has been financialized ponzis being sold to tech illiterate boomer and braindead bankers who fell for the ids da future, ROI in two weeks, pinky promise marketing lines
>>536842877he's speaking facts, but they'll probably add water cooling>retard thinks radiation alone is fast enough to cool down a pc
>>536842598>>536842864and where did that open source model you're using to automate cute little tasks on your desktop come from? from the massive data centers needed to train frontier models. lets see your 8gb of vram satisfy enterprise needs like drug discovery, high frequency trading, global logistics, autonomous driving networks for millions of vehicles simultaneously, etc etc. commercial enterprise requires billions of calculations per second.
>>536840950Do they also have a concept for radiation protection or do they just accept all their chips will get fucked the next time a solar storm comes around?
>>536842988they will use liquid ammonia through the new highly efficient carbon radiators nasa worked on to replace the old metal radiators such as what was seen on the iss
>>536842988all is it is how willing you are to send up additional weight to do ittechnically it's easy ISS generates a lot of heat and has a lot of water already on board and still doesn't botheryou need a lot of metal with area that you can keep out of the sun every 45 minutes
>>536843129From retarded braindead boomer and bankers pouring liquidity into scams that are never going to make a ROI. I profited off retards being scammed.>Muah specialized niche application Those account for maybe 0.001% of market demand and on their own are not able to make the retards a profit, and on top are better served by specialized models instead of retarded trillion parameter swizz army knife bullshit Hyperscalers are dead retard. Nobody needs datacenter shit. Its a Potemkin village on fire
>>536838519>at the cubeIt's T^4 due to weird quantum shit
>>536837372But how will you force americans to pay more electricity bills with this?
>>536837372cooling is the issue, you might think because it's -455° F it's easy but actually not at all, there is no atmosphere or air or wind to "not my problem" that heat
>>536837372There's just the problem of having a fiber optic line long enough and not getting it cut by planes
>>536843206software error checking and redundant chips running the same calculations to check each others work. combined with a disposable approach where they are deorbited and replaced when obsolete anyways so they dont have to actually last for long. made possible through the low launch costs of a fully reusable mass produced starship.they'll be in low earth orbit so the bulk of the solar storms will be blocked by earths magnetosphere. also when they detect a solar storm the plan is to turn it off and ground the incoming electricity into the solar panels acting as a giant faraday cage.
>>536839306Depends on how hot you run your radiators. Iirc you could run nuclear power plants in space just fine with realistically sized radiators if you use heat exchangers to get them to like 600 degrees C.
>>536837372Space is fake there is no space
is elon musk doing another stupid grift for space ecks?just submerge them a little off the coast. China is doing that. they seal a module up water tight and just dunk the whole damn thing a little off the coast. when they burn out use a crane to life the module back out and replace it with another one. ezpz
>>536843405Nigger give up. You repeating your script here is not going to change the trajectory away from retarded all-purpose models which nobody needs to specialized SLM and reduction of computing needs, as 99% of the current market demand able to be served with local free set ups, also on the enterprise level.You are too slow, the IPOs would have needed to happen in early 2024 latest not 2026
>>536837372
>>536843284the 0.001% of market demand is the hobbyists not the enterprise applications you call nicheyour 8gb of vram setup can handle one user running one task. an enterprise data center handles hundreds of millions of concurrent requests simultaneously. true corporate operations require vast pools of centralized data that cannot fit on local, distributed consumer rigs.
>>536843473What the fuck would be the use of that, you can't use rockets to put stuff in the ocean, unless they fly the chips to Greenland at Mach 6.
>>536843405That's not how grounding works and not how to protect from solar flares in space. You're just trying to come up with any excuse that sounds plausible to convince midwits.
So how do you send the data back to Earth? At shitty Starlink speeds?
>>536838436Turns out they were rape rafts, there for Google jeet execs to rape trafficked children in neutral waters
>>536838668They destroy the whole thing and you get to pay for launching a new one.
>>536843521you said that already. and in response to me making a new argument about how these data centers plan to weather solar storms, something i hadn't mentioned yet. you are the one being repetitive.
>>536837372Holy shit you're retareded. It's almost impossible to dissipate heat in space. There is a reason a thermos uses a fucking VACUUM TO KEEP CONTENTS HOT YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>536839440Altman deserved to be publicly gelded, drawn and quartered for what he did to his sister when she was three.
>>536843550Now you are just lying. The majority cashflow would be retail, not enterprise. Btw, there is currently an api pricing war going on. Companies that are not able to make a ROI are now at the point of cannibalization to retain market share in a declining market demand environment.The calls for bail out and the hastily churned out IPOs told anybody that isn't a 70 year old boomer still stuck in the 1980s, that the scammers are desperate and are attempting a rug pull, that is bound to fail. And you stupid p2p advertising shill are showing live how desperate your clients are to find greater fools where non are
>>536837372very good idea, the CEO should adopt this.You know some retarded CEO who's been trying to kill his company with incompetence for years will go... this is a good idea.Electronics are so sensitive to electromagnetics that you can literally cause malfunction by putting large appliances next to them. Putting them in space is next level retardness.
>>536843611"Laser" speed of light only 10 to 15 milliseconds lag, about enough to get head shot by a base camper.
Any service engineer bros here? I don't know how I feel about this call out.
>>536843690Your marketing is not worth engaging with outside of mocking you fail p2p shilling. The reasons why "datacenter" in space are the stupidest scam ever tried to be sold by the GenX scammer are in the first 10 replies to this thread>B-but muah future tech>Gibs liquidity and loans now>For a market in regressAhahahahahahahahahaha
>>536843565in aerospace, grounding doesn't mean shoving a rod into dirt; it means equipotential structure bonding to prevent differential spacecraft charging and electrostatic arc discharges. when a coronal mass ejection hits, the continuous conductive skin of the titanium/carbon radiators acts as a faraday shield, keeping the internal electric field at zero while the charge dissipates into the ambient plasma. noaa data allows operators to put the silicon into an unpowered 'safe hold' state before arrival, eliminating the voltage potential required for high-energy solar protons to cause destructive single event latch-ups. if you don't know the difference between earth-grounding and structural bonding in a vacuum, stop pretending you understand space hardware architecture. mic drop.
>>536838281The real reason is the military application. You need massive data processing and low latency for things like SAR, imaging, drones etc.
>>536843893good idea, saar
>>536843708gpu compute efficiency skyrocketed, dropping chip runtime costs by 70%, allowing labs to aggressively pass savings down to lock in enterprise clients. that's what actually happened with the api pricing war, not declining demand.stop padding your arguments with over 50% adhom
>>536843961>W-we need a public bailout >Because military AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA This shit is so dead. An industry probably Trillions of hidden liabilities in the hole, unable to make a ROI begs a communist ponzi 420T in the hole for a bail outThis is the most hilarious mutual suicide pact in the recent history of humanity
>>536837372>>536838203yea, space isnt even cold, you would be boiling in space
>>536844033>Locked into multi year scamsAnd you really think these scammed customers are not looking for exit hatches, not to speak about that these contracts won't be renewed let alone that anybody that has observed before being scammed into a multi year scam contract is ever going to be scammed into one.siliCON valley committed suicide with its ELIZA bot scam
>>536843951Yes that's what I said, you used the wrong terminology and tried to come back with more scientific babble. Still not how it works. Especially for something that will carry gigawatts of charge and 2nm transistors. Come back with another LLM response and try again. Mic drop? You said a lot of bullshit that's easily fact checked as wrong lol.
>>536844162>still not how it worksyes it isgo ahead then, fact check it
>>536837372So when the hard drive reaches end of life or the processor dies, the server can't be repaired, nice design
>>536844236Here's an obvious hint: carbon and titanium aren't conductive LOL
>>536844242they're obsolete in a few years anyways. deorbit it and replace it is the plan. made economically viable by the low launch costs of starship>>536844124you still think of ai as a chatbot in a browser window. demand for data centers is still high because the use cases have evolved beyond that, as i already explained here >>536843129 and here >>536843550
>>536840775>It still would not produce nearly as much energy as was consumed though.Those are Chaos lies. Do not falter, keep trying to overcome it. You will find a solution.
>>536844347Tool calls and loops are not the hype solution marketing you retards are looking for. >B-but muah drug development >W-we beat cancer in two weeks with probabilistic machines>Plox gibs loans and liquidity now>For the "common good"The industry is dead retard. Datacenters are not needed, Potemkin villages that only served as number fudging and balance sheet faking.
>>536844309titanium is a metal. It is literally a solid metal element on the periodic table. yes, it conducts electricity.carbon fiber and graphite are also excellent conductors. they are so good at it that modern airplanes (like the Boeing 787) are made of carbon fiber and hit by lightning all the time. the electricity safely flows right across the carbon skin, acts like a faraday cage, and protects the passengers inside.to build a faraday cage, you don't need copper; you just need a material that electricity can move through easier than empty space.
>>536844486before deep-learning models, mapping a single protein structure took a scientist years of physical lab work. google deepmind's alphafold modeled almost every known protein structure on earth in a fraction of the time.running these molecular simulations requires trillions of floating-point operations per second. you cannot run a global biomedical database simulating millions of compound interactions on a gaming pc. It requires massive, highly specialized centralized compute networks.
AI is not going away. Even if the AI bubble bursts in the private sector, governments around the world will still use it. They will say it is a matter of national security and use that as a reason to take land for data centers, and divert energy from local power grids.
>>536844673Give up idiot. You are trying to sell non-trivial machines as trivial machines. Its the most transparent fail scam ever, and the useful idiots and greatest fools that fell for it are no longer falling for it.And again, these specialized niche cases make for less than 0.0001% of all demand. Impossible to make a ROI with it
>>536844777you're repeating yourself with arguments i've already debunked, proving you're not arguing in good faith
>>536844495You didn't see graphite
>>536844831what is graphite made of? carbon
>>536844752>A trillion dollar in the hole scam with no positive cashflow option >Begs to be bailed out by a 420T in the hole scam in deflationary demographic death spiral Ahahahahahahahahahaha Hilarious
>>536844825You are just a liar. A marketing freak, that hopes that repeating a marketing lie often enough is going to be able to change a locked in trajectory. That borders on magical thinking.Banks are not able anymore to monetize the "AI industry" trashbonds and the attempt to dump on the overheated public ponzi market comes 2 years too late
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>>5368373721)Thermal transfer Ration between a Hot surface and Space Vaccum is not as efficient as you are2) You will only access the satellite a few hours a day unless you set them at ego-stationary orbit 3) A single error will render it in-operable as the cost of maintenance will outweight any saving 4) How do you plan to power them? Solar? HA!5) Data center are the size of small towns, how much do you think it will take to put an entire Small Town in Orbit?
>>536837372>space is cold.Being in direct sunlight in space is very hot indeed.
>>536844886>"Moveable type is a scam. Only the rich can read.">"The telephone is a scam. We have telegraphs that can community across the country.">Electricty is a scam. It will kill anyone who uses it.">"Automobiles are a scam. Horses are more dependable.">"AI will dissapear, you will see."Noone is going to buy your degenerate fur porn anymore and AI is not going away. Keep coping, Luddite.
idk if this space data center shit is real like actually advertised somewhere but its clearly just "invest into ai, nigger" idk why. but i know thick power bottom white femboy bully turned into private sissy at your apparence is an ai chatbot.
>>536845094Scalability, starship is a massive vehicle that will transform the ability to launch satellites into orbit. Soon enough the price per kilogram will be insanely small, there will be millions of tonnes in orbit. With that many data centers in orbit a few bits lost here and there, a few vaporizing here and there will be trivial.
