>>536869038>Atheism in 2026Kek. *tips fedora*Jay Dyer makes a living from destroying atheists in debate.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QyPP6OHH24
>>536869038i'm agnostic, and an asymptotical believer in a higher power
>>536869038New Zealand is a land of midwits lmao.
>>536869038it's the other way around for most people as they realize the lie of nihilism everything in our culture is seemingly made to turn you away from divinity
>>536869038i think around 2006-2008 when my granpa died
>>536869038Never had one to begin with
>>536869606i think there are a bunch of us like this, who dont realize ityou know>my god, your god, what bullshit>there might be a god>he probably jumps sides, because like he cares how he is worshipped>whatever>because if thats right>im probably not wrongand for all of us it must follow that3I/atlas, being a superhuman feat and overloaded with semantical symbolismis our 'holy' moment
>>536869038Until you open your history book to 33-55ad then realize there's a point you have do address what happened.
>>536869470>>Atheism in 2026I mean yeah, pretty much everyone I know is irreligious. My sister is the only real Christian I know, but she's also a staunch feminist and bisexual, so idk do you count that?
>>536869606It passed by Mars because that's where we used to live.
>>536869038the scientists in your science books are christian
>>536869928then you're dysgenic
>>536869038The reality is that most people need religion to function and be healthy.Whether any of it is actually "real" doesn't matter.Scientism and secular humanism are not good substitutes for religion.
>>536869038Its not so much growing out of religion than retreating into atheism.
>>536870373jupiter symbolizes godthus>war is an affront to god>ayys attack godmars being a former home planet is boomer wishful thinkingthey hear that meteorites have components for DNA, and conclude earth was seeded, instead of realizing that DNA components are everywherebut only on earth can they develop all the way to complex lifeformsmars may have had lifebut probably maxed out at dinosaur level, if everthen the planet became inhabitabletough luck
>>536870892>inhabitableuninhabitable, but wow, english, eh?
>>536870599The scientists in a science book used the scientific method and is the only reason you know their name.
>>536869038I have never seen any atheist in Skyrim, and they are all NPCs. Those NPCs are better than you atheist losers.
>>536871924>Knowledge claimsIf the universe is materialistic and made up of atoms bouncing around, then how does that worldview even come to justify the existence of knowledge?>scientific methodWhy ought we use the scientific method?
>>536871924right, they just so happen to be christian
>>536871924that's sarcasm, btw
>>536869038Atheism simply means you believe in the holohoax as the foundation myth of your world.
>>536873018>scientists were all x religion NoAlso the prominent ones did a great many silly and incorrect things outside of their scientific careers, theism if they were was just one of them
>>536869038>When did you grow out of religion and become an atheist?When I realized space daddy isn't going to save me from the terrors of existence.
>>536869606I'm agnostic atheist and I don't know what you mean by "higher power". Can you elaborate?
>>536870638>muh evolution selected for itI guess, but it also selects for many strange things. Why can't we just say we don't know instead of story time with the shaman?
>>536869038>Grow out of religion>Be atheistMaking a lot of assumptions, faggot.Anyway, God is real, but that doesn't mean anything anybody wrote down is correct, my boy faggotron.Atheism is an incorrect stance, based on the premise of your existence.I'm not saying a "God made you" only that a pregenitor created all of what you know as reality.You have no onus to actually worship or suck this guy's cock, he's just trying to do some shit.
>>536872448Complex arrangements of matter, such as brains, evolved through natural selection. Brains are information-processing systems: they take sensory inputs, maintain internal models of the world, update those models via feedback, and generate adaptive behavior."Knowledge" here refers to reliable, truth-tracking representational states in such systems.
>>536876260>Anyway, God is realTo you
>>536876260>only that a pregenitor created all of what you know as reality.Also:>Making a lot of assumptions, faggot.Back at you, my boy. Why can't we just say we don't know shit instead of charlatanism?
>>536871420>inflammablehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxGOB2hDpis
>>536876260>I'm not saying a "God made you" only that a pregenitor created all of what you know as reality.Why do you assume or believe this is true? Couldn't existence be the result of a series of events that were not kicked off by a conscious intelligence?
>>536869038>When did you grow out of religion and become an atheist?They told him, "Don't you ever come around here""Don't wanna see your face, you better disappear"The fire's in their eyes and their words are really clearSo beat it, just beat itYou better run, you better do what you canDon't wanna see no blood, don't be a macho manYou wanna be tough, better do what you canSo beat it, but you wanna be badJust beat it (beat it), beat it (beat it)No one wants to be defeatedShow them how funky and strong is your fightIt doesn't matter who's wrong or rightJust beat it (beat it), just beat it (beat it)Just beat it (beat it), just beat it (beat it, uh)They're out to get you, better leave while you canDon't wanna be a boy, you wanna be a manYou wanna stay alive, better do what you canSo beat it, just beat it (rrr)You have to show them that you're really not scaredYou're playin' with your life, this ain't no truth or dareThey'll kick you, then they'll beat you, then they'll tell you it's fairSo beat it, but you wanna be badJust beat it (beat it), beat it (beat it)No one wants to be defeatedShow them how funky and strong is your fightIt doesn't matter who's wrong or rightJust beat it (beat it), beat it (beat it)No one wants to be defeatedShow them how funky and strong is your fightIt doesn't matter who's wrong or rightJust beat it (beat it, beat it, beat it)Beat it (beat it, beat it)Beat it (beat it, beat it)Beat it (beat it, beat it)Beat it (beat it, beat it)Beat it (beat it), beat it (beat it)
>>536876649>Couldn't existence be the result of a series of events that were not kicked off by a conscious intelligence?Yes
>>536869038There is an extra frame to this comic, which is the consequences of godlessness leaving enough destruction to make we to go back to worshipping magic rocks
>>536869038When I was like 12 or something? Not sure since I never noticed it happen. Just like other childish make believe it fades over time as you mature.
>>536869606agnostic what? Atheist, theist, believer in underpants gnomes. What are you agnostic about? You have to be specific. Just "agnostic" is not anything.
is reality a projection of consciousness?
>>536876948>There is an extra frame to this comic, which is the consequences of godlessness leaving enough destruction to make we to go back to worshipping magic rocksImplying belief in spooks will save us from ourselves.NGMI
>>536877520>is reality a projection of consciousness?Yes. We are the voices in our heads. They are not the gods, it is us, but we can continue the retardation for another 6 million years if we want I guess.
>>536877833>They are not the godsprobably correct>it is usprobably not>>536877520>oh hey>yall be thinkin what im thinkinit was a wallmart knife with an LED instead, wasnt it?
>>536869038>When did you grow out of religion and become an atheist?When my misguided belief in the tooth fairy is nothing compared to the reality of tooth ache. When I am told to see the beauty and "awe" in life as if the rainbow after the flood that takes everything and the pretty flower growing out of a loved one's grave is any consolation in this infernal shit stain of an existence.
>>536869038
>>536876095>>536877088>>536878044correct deduction asks>are god(s) real>are ayys real>are both real>are they maybe the same thingconcluding these are all forms of>higher powersand then trying to figure out if 'strict atheism' must be discarded (or not)odds are really bad on strict atheism, im afraid
>>536878044>>it is us>probably notYou are free to be highly regarded.
>>536876384>Complex arrangements of matter, such as brains, evolved through natural selectionThis is contrary to the concept of entropy. How do you derive meaningful complex information from an inherently meaningless world?>Brains are information-processing systems: they take sensory inputs, maintain internal models of the world, update those models via feedback, and generate adaptive behaviorSo like a computer?>"Knowledge" here refers to reliable, truth-tracking representational states in such systems.What makes it reliable? Where does truth come from? Is truth subjective or objective?
>>536878258It would be more startling to discover that there are no space aliens and that we are the only sentient life in the universe.
>>536878258I don't believe there is a literal man in the sky as described by religions. As for more abstract higher powers. Such beliefs are not useful. What does it even mean to believe in something with no known properties, other than being a "higher power", whatever that is.
>>536878433>This is contrary to the concept of entropy. How do you derive meaningful complex information from an inherently meaningless world?We are ephemeral Maxwell demons. We have small time scales and small local pockets of entropy defying order. In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless though, but no one is willing to swallow that pill.
>>536878444>thanks for the movie tipnever heard of it(or maybe i did, and confused it with 13th warrior)
>>536878044>>536878816>is it the government>is it godbeen there, done that, i guessif its government, then 3i/atlas must logically be a psyop, or otherwise, altas is the big Gso even if theres small g interfering with me, there should be a court of divine(r) justice availableor there is a big G, who did do all of that, including me feeling shadowed(it is, however, not impossible i am in fact being shadowed)but finding 'the truth' must be available to everyone, in their own ways, i would guess
>>536878433>What makes it reliable? Where does truth come from? Is truth subjective or objective?Neither, both, enjoying wolf kebabs at a roth vantage?
>>536870892also it had its perihelion around oct 31st>BOOi mean, aliens (and/or god) being real is scary for some, i would thinkbut its just a jokeearth was on the other side of the sun at that moment>what a coincidence!dont worry humanswe <3 youthat third rock from host starof course, all this presumes they know whats going on, on earthso, probably, FTL must exist (or its da big G)either waysome things are just too coincidental to be realyou know it, i know itand it all being a psyop is pushing the boundraries on the plausible just as well>but why would there be semantic coincidencesthats just... too unrandom to be random, toothe most simplest answer is some higher power, i think
>>536879068>been there, done that, i guess>if its government, then 3i/atlas must logically be a psyop, or otherwise, altas is the big G>so even if theres small g interfering with me, there should be a court of divine(r) justice available>or there is a big G, who did do all of that, including me feeling shadowed>(it is, however, not impossible i am in fact being shadowed)>but finding 'the truth' must be available to everyone, in their own ways, i would guessASSHOLE 2 MISSION KANTRAIL *psht*IT'S (((you))) DUMBASSDid you know sometimes butthole smarter than brain?ASS 2 MOUTH CPR *patent pending*
>>536879671>the most simplest answer is some higher power, i thinkThat higher power is ((((((you))))))
>>536879687>>536879809are you insinuating some observer bias?maybe you had to write that downto read it yourself>what a coincidence that might bei try to reflect upon my subjetive biases and projectionsdo you do, too?
>When did you grow out of religion and become an atheist
>>536880016>what kind of faggots are you>that i have to be your prophetso lame, ffs
>>536869038>Growing up is not believing in things people can plainly see.What did he mean by this.
I was never particularly religious but I would consider myself vaguely Christian if anyone asked in the past. But after reading the Bible I wouldn't even say that anymore. I guess I would be considered an atheist but while I like learning about different religions I just don't have any strong connection to any. I don't have an issue with there being some kind of higher power though.
>>536869038I grew out of atheism
>>536869038AVE CHRISTUS REX.Turn to christ anons, the only real way.The only one still there in any situations.NEVER LOSE FAITH. CHRIST IS ALWAYS WITH YOU AND WILL ALWAYS HELP YOU OUT WHATEVER HAPPENDS
>>5368690388 years old I become an atheist..God never let me finger Vicky so he can FUCK OFF..God I prayed I would finger her but to no avail did I finger Vicky..Now everyone finger Vicky except me..Now I know no gods..
>>536869470jay dyers one and only line of argument is that if you are speaking to him you must accept that there is some absolute meaning, which is non-sequitur, as for all you know it could simply be the apperance of meaning, and from there he goes on some long and crooked path of syllogisms and appeals to conventional wisdom to 'prove' that talking snakes are real and that you should be an orthodox christian. he is also literally a paid shill and and an intelligence asset.
>>536869470who pays him?
>>536878762>In the grand scheme of things it is meaningless though, but no one is willing to swallow that pill.At least your worldview is consistent. Lots of materials have contradictory worldviews.>>536879246Huh
>>536880920>absolute meaningThere has to be meaning in order to even have a debate. Materialists can never even get a foothold in debate against proper theists because merely by participating in a debate, dialogue, or discussion they have to admit things like truth and knowledge exist. That the words coming out of their mouths aren't meaningless sound waves. As soon as they admit truth, knowledge, and meaning exist, then they get pressed on how their worldviews account for those immaterial universal concepts and they can never provide epistemic justification for them.>intelligence assetWhat would his purpose be as a CIA agent be? As far as I know he reveals information about the spooks in his analyses.>>536881355He's just really good at debating and people donate to him I guess.
>>536882797what you know is simply that you experience a sense of meaning. which when broken down is simply an organization and arrangement of various sense impressions - sounds and images. the fact that you move from this to metaphysics is just a coping mechanism with the inherent uncertainty.
>>536878433>This is contrary to the concept of entropyHow? And meaning is subjective >>536878433>What makes it reliableThe consequences/outcomes they produce
>>536882797>Epistemic justification and the footholdMaterialists justify via:>Empirical success: Science works. We predict eclipses, build vaccines, land probes, debug code. This isn't circular bootstrapping; it's bootstrapping from reliable low-level capacities (perception, memory) refined iteratively. Quine's naturalized epistemology: epistemology is continuous with science.>Coherence and prediction: Beliefs cohere with evidence and yield novel predictions better than rivals.The "press" on grounding often assumes the theistic standard (immaterial universals or divine mind) as default. But why? Physicalism is parsimonious: one ontology (matter/energy/fields + laws) explains everything observed, including minds. Adding God or abstract objects multiplies entities. The explanatory gaps (hard problem of consciousness, normativity) are real but not fatal—research continues (integrated information, global workspace, predictive coding theories). Theists have parallel gaps: how does an immaterial God interact with matter without violating physics? Why this specific world with suffering/evolution?>Fallibilism: No demand for Cartesian certainty or ultimate foundations. Knowledge is defeasible and improving, exactly what we'd expect in a material world without a guarantor.
>>536883300>what you know is simply that you experience a sense of meaning. which when broken down is simply an organization and arrangement of various sense impressions - sounds and images.So is meaning subjective or objective? If there are no other minds than particular human minds, how can you derive any sort of universal meaning?>>536884621>meaning is subjectiveSo it's dependent on the mind. How do you derive any sort of universal meaning if it's all subjective?>The consequences/outcomes they produceUnder your worldview, are you able to justify why consequences/outcomes even matter?>>536885157>Empirical successThis is an appeal to consequence. It doesn't tell us why truth is justified or where it even comes from.>Physicalism is parsimonious: one ontology (matter/energy/fields + laws) explains everything observed, including minds.But how does it explain concepts? How does a reductionist materialist worldview explain things like ethics, beauty, reasoning, or knowledge?>Knowledge is defeasible and improvingBut why is knowledge even worth pursuing in a materialist worldview?
>>536869038It has been proven that there is a god. If you are an atheist today You're just either misinformed or willfully ignorant
>>536869038As a New Zealander, you're fully boosted I'm sure. Not so many moments oblivion.
>>536886693>How do you derive any sort of universal meaning if it's all subjective?Give me an example of what you think is a "universal meaning">are you able to justify why consequences/outcomes even matter?Yup, Sometimes I don't have too>Empirical success>This is an appeal to consequence. It doesn't tell us why truth is justified or where it even comes from.Depends on the consequences >How does a reductionist materialist worldview explain things like ethics, beauty, reasoning, or knowledge?Already answered >But why is knowledge even worth pursuing in a materialist worldview?Why isn't it?
>>536869038>growing upBased. Now he praises the Sun!
>>536877088>atheistNot agnostic>theistNot agnosticThere's no such thing as an "agnostic atheist" or "agnostic theist". They're either atheists, theists, or agnostic.
>>536886840Can you send the proofs of werewolves with your god proof when you reply, thanksDon't worry theists the proofs be coming any minute now
>>536887369>Give me an example of what you think is a "universal meaning"Laws of Logic>Yup, Sometimes I don't have tooIn a debate you would have to though>Depends on the consequencesExactly. So it's entirely subjective.>Why isn't it?Because it can't be grounded. In a theistic worldview, truth comes from the divine mind and therefore is worth pursuing. In an atheistic worldview, knowledge is arbitrary and has no objective grounding. Attempts to justify ethics like the pursuit of knowledge ultimately end circular for those that try to argue it can be justified in that worldview.
>>536869038Christians will be the first to burn in hell. At least the athiest can say Jesus' followers were the worst of our society.
>>536869038forgive me if I memeflag I don't want to burden the country I'm at with shame;when it was my first time eating in elementary school, at the canteen, they served me a meal but to my realization it had red meat, according to islam it's forbiddden because red meat in general it's not halal, so I panicked and as a sperg I asked the lunch lady if this contains pork(I remembered my mom telling me to not eat beef fromthe grocery store because it's haram and they also mix in pork.she told me no so I panicked more and out of peer pressure and hunger I ate around the beef sauce until I realized I was also eating beef so I just ate thing shaking like a walled woman on prozac.from that day I felt everything was off, the things that I had to do because I was guilt trapped in this abrahamic cult that made me more isolated and shamed of my actions.so I was destined to waste my youth on the internet all alone without ever relating to anyone until I discovered this beautiful website at the ripe age of 12, so I discovered more truths.it guided me to become more independent and when it was the time I left the branch of Islam.everyone was pissed off including my dad, it was the second time I ever saw him cry and before that was because of grandma's passing.honestly? I don't give a shit they have stolen from me my normalcy, my foreskin and any chance at making friends.I had to deal with the dysphoria of not being european, I could've been a sand nigger having fun fucking bacha bazi and playing with bombs with my retarded muslim friends.but my father had to bring his retarded wife to europe so they can pump 7 children and get free government gibs while living in a shithole.I coudn't jerk off unless I was in the fucking school's bathroom.so yeah tl;drfuck Jews and FUCK ABRAHAMISM
>>536887843>Laws of LogicAnd what "meaning" do they derive?>>536887843>>Yup, Sometimes I don't have too>In a debate you would have to thoughNot really no>>Depends on the consequences>Exactly. So it's entirely subjective.Yup>>536887843>>Why isn't it?>Because it can't be groundedWhy? >In an atheistic worldview, knowledge is arbitraryDepends on the knowledge >Attempts to justify ethics like the pursuit of knowledge ultimately end circular for those that try to argue itNo different than the appeal to your favorite flavor of god you choose based on personal feelings and preferences How do you go about acquiring knowledge?
>>536887733You're going to have a werewolf gf on your bud though it's not too hard in the forests around here
>>536869038When did you grow out of moral dialectics and stopped baiting the opposition you need to exist in order to excuse your own ontological failure.
>>536887963Nah. You will die and go to Hell.
>>536888394Angry much?
>>536869470This retard believes sharks ate kelp and predators where vegetarians... after seeing that I can't take anything he says seriously
>>536888488That's just the Truth. All atheists are failure while Todd Howard made Skyrim.
>>536888488I don’t start threads about a done to death topic 363 days out of the year. Belief isn’t a work, denial definitely is.
>>536869038its not anyones faultdimensional infrastructure and mechanics are difficult for humans to understand
>>536888535Kek yup
Do Christians understand the leap in logic they're asking people to take from the cautious agnostic>Hmm, maybe there IS some kind of unexplainable force holding the universe togetherto>And that means god must be this ancient Caananite storm deity that declared this desert tribe to be his special people destined to inherit the earth
>>536888674Have you ever read this verse?>>If Edom says, ‘We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins,’ the LORD of hosts says, ‘They may build, but I will tear down, and they will be called ‘the wicked country,’ and ‘the people with whom the LORD is angry forever’
>>536876095>Agnostic >AtheistPick one.
>>536888929No need
>>536878745i recommend you seek peace, in solaceconsider >>536878044if coincidences work in your favorwithout you ever needing beliefsconsider yourself lucky, i think>i remember when i was leaning atheistthat was frustrating, and i was so sure of myselfdunning-kruger, i guess
>>536869038Ignorance is bliss.
>>536869038Cool a 14yo commie's take on religion. Die commie die.
>>536888789Yes that sounds like something an Isrealite scribe definitely wrote on a scroll several hundred years removed from the events allegedly taking place in this story. Please explain the significance.
>>536869470Hi Jay. When will you stop working for Russia/foreign agencies and peddling treason on US soil? Or have you gone to Japan?
>>536889163Israel will literally not exist in the near future. They are cursed.
>>536869038Around 13.Then I stopped being a retarded teenager and reconciled with my creator in my mid twenties.
>>536869470nigga thinks his god grounds knowledge
>>536889244So you think the unique covenant god made with the descendants of Abraham and the tribes of Israel no longer applies and the Jews are now cursed because Pharisees or they killed Jesus or the covenant was fulfilled or whatever and now it extends to the gentiles too. It's still fictional.
>>536889393Stop projecting. The only chosen ONE of God is Me.
>>536869038>When did you grow out of religion and become an atheist?I don't tell anyone I'm an atheist (this being the exception). And it's pretty good. Though I'm in a place where everyone is expected to be Christian, the people who go to church are kind to me, friendly, and include my family even when it's clear that I just don't feel the need to go to church with them. The one or two times in the last 20 years I've let it slip that I have trouble believing some of the things they do, they've only expressed sympathy... almost as if they too, have trouble believing.I've come to realize that "belief" isn't about rationality. It's not about what you know exists or what you suspect, it's an emotion. And the reddit atheists who claim they do not believe are admitting that they're not even fucking human... it'd be like saying you have never felt love, or excitement, or fear, or any of the other dozens of emotions actual human beings have. And I don't want to be like them. I despise that they're constantly trying to convert others to be like them. They're truly sick. I do not know whether hell awaits me when I die. I have never met God or any gods. I live on a planet where I see no compelling evidence of any god's existence. If there were one, I don't suppose it would owe me any revelations. But that's the best I can manage.
>>536869038atheism is for brainlets
>>536869038Nowadays if you say you're Jesus you are either being committed or given access to the gardening tool shed.
>>536889590>Not believing in fairytales is brainlet behavior
>>536888250>And what "meaning" do they derive?The meaning is that the laws of logic argue in favor of a divine mind. Without a divine mind to ground logic, then the world becomes illogical which from observation we know isn't the case. Logic is an immaterial and universal concept that cannot be perceived directly and neither is found in any one particular mind. It cannot be accounted for in a godless world. A theistic worldview does a better job of explaining it. >Not really noLol.>YupSo then it just comes down to preference. You can't really claim a moral high ground anymore against theists when it just comes down to preference. If fact, arguing for an atheistic worldview is absurd just as much as arguing with someone about how you think chocolate flavored ice cream is better because to you it just tastes better kek.>Why?Jay Dyer explains it a hell of a lot better than me. Just watch himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr7s3XfbpzM>personal feelings and preferencesExcept it's not just personal feelings and preferences. I got drawn to theism from watching these debates and seeing how the logical arguments from theists explain their worldview a lot better and how the atheist worldviews are contradictory and self-defeating.
>>536869038Atheists are too stupid to understand the difference between debunking religion and debunking the existence of God.
>>536887733Werewolves have nothing to do with this Here is the proof of God thoughhttps://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15712935/jesus-resurrection-shroud-turin-experiment.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
>>536869038When did you decide to make 3500 anti-Christian threads everyday?
>>536889762The religion exists, and can be debunked. The burden of proof that a god exists has not been met
>>536888250>How do you go about acquiring knowledge?>>536889690
>>536889879The religion exists, and has conquered an entire continent throughout history. You are alone, and powerless, and can never destroy it.
>>536889673You people say the same five ad hominems everyday and it does nothing. Here's your (You).
>>536873145This sounds about accurate. Scum of the earth or 5-year-olds
>>536889860all religions are compatible, to a degreeid include even atheism as a religionthey believe in no-god as much as religious believe in god(which is selectively, lel)anyhowatheism brings>aint nobody out there gonna come rescue you>if you want to get it done>you gotta do it yourselfto the tablechristianity brings faith and forgivenessat least in theorybut saying>i believe>now wheres my lottery winobviously doesnt work
>>536878433the 2nd law applies in a closed system. The Earth is not a closed system, since it is constantly receiving energy from the Sun.
>>536869038the older i get, the stronger my faith in Christ becomes.
>>536889957>We've taken entire continents. You'll never eliminate the people who believe in jew magicSo?
>>536890101Fortune favors the religious. Atheists are all wage cattles.
>>536890138The older I get, the more convinced I am that no one with half a brain would design it like this
>>536876260>You have no onus to actually worship or suck this guy's cockYou don’t but the onus IS on you to be a nice person=anti-jew. If one is too stupid for that, it’s not God’s problem, either
>>536889879Yeah because you deny all the evidence given and then claim that there is none. It's the same thing with every liberal who debates a pro-lifer/abolitionist, it's the same thing with liberals who get into a debate about any of their positions.They cannot have a rational discussion because they have no foundation for their morality which means lying is acceptable. They are also so emotionally invested in proving that white Christian men are everything wrong with the world that no amount of evidence can change their mind. You are either a woman or have a woman's brain.
>>536890182Continue fighting in a worthless battle that you will never win, die wasting your life for a worthless cause, then go to Hell.
>>536889533checked, good post. the thing about reddit atheists, and honestly the majority of people who identify as atheist is that they retain the same brainless behaviour of a religious zealot but instead of God it's science and "experts". >I've come to realize that "belief" isn't about rationalitywell, duh. explaining the idea or concept of God in human, rational terms just isn't possible. God (or whatever idea you have of God) exists in a different plane, a different world entirely unbeknownst to us. i saw an anon talk about how they don't know if God is real but they believe Evil is and that was the turning point for me as well. spiritually, we are severely lacking as a species.
>>536869038At about 12-13 my brain had grown enough to realize it was all bullshit. Never looked back. The only thing that changed was my outlook for others, 20 years ago if I could push a button and end all religion on earth I would have pushed it without hesitation, now I would not push the button. For better or worse, too much of the population is severely retarded and need religious/superstitious beliefs to function properly and without it would lead to more social/moral degeneracy we see today. Until we can significantly move the bell curve over to the right religion isnt going anywhere.
I grew out of atheism and grew into religion (finding God)
>>536890245>Atheists are all wage cattles.no, they have their usesyou, my christian friend, are a part of this system >>536878044and not the other way around>why dont you ask your godfor yourself
>>536890298>Yeah because you deny all the evidence givenBecause it's not convincing
>>536890332God = Game DeveloperIt's not that hard.
>>536890358>moral degeneracyAn atheist cannot speak intelligibly on morality.
>>536890265elaborate buddy. not being sarcastic btw. in the human perspective, a lot of biological designs makes no sense and can be made better and the only arguments i can give you are subjective ones. i can ask why we are the most sentient (not sole sentient) beings, or why we have evolved much more than any other creature but it wouldn't have any weight. an atheist will say it's just pure coincidence and a believer will say it was all part of a master plan. however, my faith in Christ is bolstered from Christ's experience himself, as a human. ideally, we could all learn and even be like Him but I highly doubt that the cattle in this world will be able to see past a dollar sign and their own, subjective experiences.
>>536890511Sure I can
>>536890298Every piece of evidence you present also works for odin magicking it into existence.
>>536890511You just proved my point, 25% of the human population is so stupid they are basically unemployable, that is the real issue that we face, you are a perfect example of this, you have probably never had an original thought in your life, nor ever will
>>536890573Without reference to an absolute, morality is completely subjective. It has all the force of preference for chocolate over vanilla ice cream.
>>536890409this is baby's first introspection into God. we can gamify a lot of things to make it more palatable but it is just a desperate attempt at trying to rationalize something that is completely out of our breadth. i like the idea that being a human is a challenge and that your actions and soul (or heart) dictate how your soul will be processed. this is not why i try to be good but i believe that it helps to feel better than a simple pawn in a game.>inb4 we are all pawns either for God or for our masters
>>536890378It's no ones job to convince you or anyone else of anything. Atheists don't tell Christians to convince them they say: "provide evidence". Then we provide evidence and you say something stupid like "that's not evidence" but, what you apparently meant was: "I'm not convinced by that evidence that you provided".It doesn't matter if you are convinced, whether you are convinced by evidence is a subjective matter, there are people who are not convinced that 2+2=4 that doesn't change objective mathematical reality.
>>536890648>you have probably never had an original thought in your life, nor ever willI have several peer-reviewed publications in very good STEM journals. Do these count as original thoughts?
>>536890709What makes you think an atheist can't reference an "absolute"?
>>536890720There is nothing baby about it. God is capable of creation. You are not.God is a game dev, with all the admin privilege.The world is in balance, and basically there is no OP player with cheat skills.
>>536890796>It's no ones job to convince you or anyone else of anythingOk but regardless the evidence you goons put forth is not convincing
>>536890648i think you're just mean for the sake of being mean. the other anon has a point, in a vacuum, morality does not exist. >but natural laws!!!without a belief or guidance system to veer you away from basically becoming a demon (or monster if religious terms trigger you), there's really no reason to be good or bad because it has no effect on your worldly life. a wonderful example of this is how corrupting money can be; look at Onlyfans and all the retarded women that go into it for literal scraps. in a secular society, it's ok because nobody gets hurt, right?but in reality a lot of people who go into such an industry get spiritually demolished. this is why morality is important.
>>536890836The choice is arbitrary.
>>536890861no i'm saying it's baby because such a theory is what people naturally gravitate to in their formative years, especially when they rebel. my point is comparing it to game dev is not only juvenile, it completely takes away from the nuance of God's power and light. we can call God an artist but the tools and sources from which He draws from are so far away from us that even trying to liken God to a human profession or skill would be disingenuous if not disrespectful.
>>536890991You didn't answer the question
>>536889458>Says he is the chosen one>Cannot decide if he is God or follows God.
i came to the conclusion that christianity is fake and gay. it took me nearly 40 years of being brainwashed but I did finally break free. so then I had the decision am i alone in the universe, or is there a god or gods or at least higher level creators. I came to the logical conclusion that there is a creator because otherwise evolution doesn't make sense. there is no logical reason for evolution to make more complicated life if simple life just works it would continue. so even if you beleive in evolution there has to be some guiding force that is making it more complicated. thats all i know outside of the fact I know I exist, so i know at least one other force exists outside of me which seems to have good, evil, and sometimes neutral properties. So at least one god creator, or potentially several, who knows. I can't know any of these things. its really is as simple as me, a dark force and a light force, as stupid as that sounds, its kind of the universal truth of all religions, so its probably correct.
>>536869038I grew into religion, like any adult with a brain cell does. Atheist are just agnostics with an ego complex, agnostics are just gnostics without the balls to own their beliefs.
>>536891037I did, but perhaps I wasn't clear. What I mean is that in choosing an absolute, the atheist will have made an arbitrary choice. There is no reason why two atheists could not choose two absolutes.
>>536891084God is a girl, and she is my wife.
>>536891143>Christianity is fake and gay>God or gods exist, because there has to be a divine architect to our world>it's not possible for Christianity to be correct about ita theory that brings me joy, is that all religions (in one way or another) point to the same ideas (creator or creators, good and evil forces, morality, etc). i personally believe that the example of Christ is what allows me to place Him above all else considering his experience as God in a human's body. no other religion in this world has come close to the experience of Christ and what he did for us as human beings. that's just my opinion though.
>>536891262>the atheist will have made an arbitrary choiceArbitrary to you.Yet you come to many of the same conclusions as an atheist would on moral subjects.
>>536891324You still won't denounce Indra, Shiva and Vishnu.
>>536891001Juvenile or whatever. I prefer accuracy and Truth.
>>536891403I announce Indra, Shiva and Vishnu.
>>536891417but neither are accurate. that's my point.
>>536891456What's not accurate about it? The world is a creation of God Almighty.
>>536891143>i came to the conclusion that christianity is fake and gay.Sure, the christianity we see around us now. There could be little doubt. Even the Christians themselves see it. But that's not the same thing as saying that there was never anything to it. I've been reading the gospels, which I thought I knew the stories... and it's quite strange. You have one that's totally unlike the other 3. Those 3 are jewish fairy tales, embellished and added on to the other one, as if non-gullible people couldn't tell that they'd be thoroughly altered. But that one. It reads like a damned spy story. Jesus is sneaking around, reminding followers to tell no one, hiding out from who only knows. Telling the apostles to meet up with contacts based on pre-arranged signals. He doesn't tell anyone to turn the other cheek, he's not pontificating on all the jewish non-sense. And whatever god he's working for, it's not the jewish god at all. Even were you an atheist, if you read it and didn't find it bizarre, I'd call you a liar.Is that story fake? I dunno. Is it gay? Not even a little. Most of what we know of Jesus seems like it was made up by his enemies to try and corrupt whatever message he had (which, sadly, is absent from the one story that remained uncorrupted).
>>536891442>Doesn't denounceI accept your concession of defeat.
>>536891395A principle is arbitrary or it is not. If it is not arbitrary, there should be a rule to determine it. But then how is the rule discovered? Do you not apprehend the difficulty?
>>536891567>don't do this>don't do thatYou are sorely limited and weak.
>>536891499czech'dyes, He is but the thing is we cannot even begin to fathom how He works or operates. as humans we want to seek the truth but we're simply not privy to that. we could all be labrats, i admit that. but at the same time, a force such as God would not have (supposedly) intervened with humanity (whether you believe that or not). this is more than a game, it's something else entirely.
>>536891636I literally have seen a God that can predict the future with 100% precision.
>>536891521>Sure, the christianity we see around us now.friendly reminder that the "Christian" organisations and movements we see are all infiltrated and perverted. >>536891701>memenigger doing memenigger thingswhy did i even open up this can of worms with you?
>>536891604>Doesn't like being exposed>"You are weak!"Says the guy that is too scared to denounce gods that are rivals to God, who he said chose him.
>>536891143>if simple life just works it would continue.It does. All simple forms of life are still around. Plants make up over 80% of the biomass on Earth. Single-cell organisms are over 10% by themselves. The horseshoe crab hasn't changed its shape significantly in 250 million years. Something that looks like a shark has been swimming in the oceans for over 400 million years. In our own section of the tree of life, the primates, we still have older forms of apes and monkeys around that are still succeeding.
>>536891587And so far you've yet to demonstrate anything you've said is objective.
>>536869038At 11 (catholic adult age) when I didn’t have to go to mass anymore
>>536891732My God has no rival. In fact. All those being can certainly be God Almighty as well.
>>536891729>why did i even open up this can of worms with you?Thats the whole point of the Gook memeflag. He has zero convictions, only to try and annoy and derail any genuine conversations
>>536891742it does but the question is why haven't any of those organism evolved to the level of a human? why are the majority of those species stuck living at a purely instinctual level (some humans too ofc)? isn't it a bit strange that of all the lifeforms on earth, we are the only ones to have reached this level of sentience?
>>536891864you are correct, a shame really. i like it when threads have solid discussions going on.
>>536891863>Uses wordplay to dance around the fact he is too scared to prove he is indeed chose.
>>536891864I can be here all day everyday for 100+ years. I will live for literal Eternity. You will be the only one who will waste your worthless times on Earth.
>>536891926*chosen*
>>536891729>infiltrated and pervertedThats not a good look. What makes Christians unable to resist this?
>>536891931>I can be here all dayBecause you are paid to be here.
>>536891926I am the chosen ONE of God. The ONE and only. I will keep saying it bcause its tehr Truth, you can keep denying it, and bearing false witness agaisnt Me all you want. The one who lose in the end will be you.
>>536891993No one is paying me. Money cannot move me.Who the fuck is above Me?There is only God and Me.
>>536869038I'm agnostic. Why do atheist fags have such a hard on for Christianity? You guys are bigger losers than the the most ignorant holy roller.
>>536892019>Can't type properly due to being agitatedI am making you mad. I call your bluff every time.
>>536891753I'm not sure that you know what objective means. With what do you disagree? For your convenience, I repeat:> A principle is arbitrary or it is not. If it is not arbitrary, there should be a rule to determine it. But then how is the rule discovered?
>>536891970the majority of people are cattle. either willingly or unwillingly. heck, a lot of Christians don't even question the validity of the Bible.
>>536892108You are soldifying my existence. I love all form of feeling, it's better than boredom.
circumcision was what finally broke me
>>536892019False prophets make baby jesus cry
>>536892206I am not a Prophet. I cannot read the Future with 100% precision unlike God Almighty.
>>536892182>"I'm not mad!"You are not chosen by God. You are a regular person that does not even believe in God, but you damn sure believe in Indra, Vishnu and Shiva. You are scared to denounce the,
>>536892126>A principle is arbitrary or it is notArbitrary to who?
>>536892289them*
Here's what the memeflag has been chosen for:>Spout schizo bullshit to derail genuine conversation>Make Christians look absolutely retarded >Shit up threads and make people not even want to post in themEither a well poisoning shill or a retarded schizo.
>>536892289I am the chosen ONE of God Almighty. The One and only.The supreme Absolute with no equal.
>>536892335I am still the number 1 chess champion of /pol/, and all of you are retard who can't compete for shit.
>>536892393Enjoy marinating on this site, we can move on without you. We don't need your retardation.
>>536892344>WAAAAH! I AM THE CHOSEN ONE! I AM BECAUSE I SAID SO!!!!"
>>536891403We have an altar in our living room and we keep my old bible there right next to pOur spell jars, money bowl and mini shrine to Hecate. You can't do a thing about it.
>>536892458I don't need you in my Heaven. The world will be a better place with only God and Me.
I was agnostic/kind of deistic my whole life and became an orthodox catechumen this last year.Because of:Chinese Room experiment and realizing consciousness is immaterial(thank you Luke smith)St. Gregory Palamas' Essence-Energies distinction makes the most sense to describe God. Wondering why things are intelligible at all.David Hume's Is-Ought thought experiment.Prayer practices that put me at peaceDelving deeper into philosophy and theology in general and delving beyond the reddit strawman of "magic beard man" and realizing that He is both beyond being and non-being or any descriptor. Also that reddit atheists are retarded and wouldn't hold a candle to the old theologians in spite of how 'rational" they think they are.I don't see religion as a purely "rational" exercise to begin with, but I recommend anyone who's interested to look into these things and talk to an orthodox priest.Bless y'all.
>>536892460God has always been with Me. Yes. Cry about it, loser.
>>536892501Sure, buddy. See you never
>>536892465Okay, and? We live in a free will universe. At least you are honest about it. The Indian here stubbornly refuses to admit he's been found out.
>>536892533>orthodoxGod bless you, anon.
>>536892572I'm Thai/Chinese/American you cock sucking retard fucking cunt.
>>536892545If he is with you, then you will have no problem denouncing Indra, Shiva and Vishnu, because God protects those he chooses,
>>536892628They have never done anything wrong to me. Why should I do anything that can hurt them?
>>536892291>Arbitrary to who [sic]?The objection is fatuous unless you deny the law of excluded middle.
>>536892627no you're not.
>>536892572That's between the jeet and God. We take "no others before me" literally and will make offerings and prayers to various Gods as we see fit, but none come before THE God. We don't even idolize Jesus because it's idolatry.
>>536892728Yes, I am.
>>536892627>He finally snapsOh I know who you are. You are that gay Thai furry that comes on occasionally and tries to talk shit!
>>536892533you are a woman
>>536892701Is circumcision of a baby objectively wrong?
>>536892808Snap about what? All I do is speaking the Truth. All you do is slanser and make false accusation. You will die and go to Hell, and I am here to witness it.
>>536892754nah. not even close.
>>536892728He's Gook, Super Gook and Mutt lol
Indian holy men are conquering the athiest west>>536891289
>>536892289>You are scared to denounce the,>Ghost of Mesacoincidentally fits
>>536892881My grand father from mom side was a military general of the united state.My grand father from dad side was a chinese merchant, and doctors.Half of my bloodlines are doctors, and another half are military.I do take pride in it.
>>536892859>You are going to Hell!I am not a Sodomite, unlike you. You have your head so far up pooh bears ass your breath smells like the moo goo gai pan he had for lunch.
>>536893001You will die and go to Hell. Certainly. You hate God Almighty. There is no Heaven for you.
Lmao the Gook is the disappointment of his family.
>>536890327But what good IS Christianity if everybody in it does nothing but meaningless nonsense and is about nothing but talk? Are you receiving money through it? Then I suppose you’re benefitting.
>>536893080I am the greatest creation of God Almighty, and the most powerful martial artist on this planet Earth.There is no being more Powerful than Me.
>>536893054>Calls out heathen for his blasphemy>"You hate God."No I don't. You clearly have to respect for Him because of your arrogance.
>>536869038i don't know what i am. i don't think theres any physical deities out there as all the religious books describe. i have no fucking idea what happened before the big bang, maybe it was just another earlier universe that collapsed in on itself, whatever caused it i dont think it's conscious or all-knowing like a typical human centric god is described but if you want to label that process "god", then "god" exists
>>536893154>Implies he is more powerful than XiCCP will be looking for you now.
>>536869038So what's your belief? Mother Nature? Random magical evolution? A giant robot? Nothing? The guy exists and he just don't fucking care, like a fucking insect! Even jews are less despicable...
>>536893121Doing good things lead to good Result.Doing bad things lead to bad Result.Opposing God Almighty will lead to bad Result.
>>536893219I live in Thailand. You stupid bitch.
>>536893219Tell him he has poop colored eyes, he loves it lol
>>536893334My eye is the eye of Apex Predator. I love it.
>>536893235You have come on here before talking about how Chinese philosophies are "better" than the West. >>536893262And? They have fucking police stations in China towns that police their own. You don't think they can find you and drag you to one of their Hellish jails?
>>536893382I'm not that furry guy you stupid fuck.
>My eye is the eye of Apex Predator. I love it
>>536893417>Furry is mad he got found out.
>>536893440Post yours. Fucking coward.
>>536893454>bearing false witnessYou will die and go to Hell.
Gook yellow skin. Gook brown eye
>>536893556Whiter than you. Shit head.
>>536893510You are claiming to be Gods chosen one to reign on earth. If that is not bearing false witness, I don't know what is.
The Gook is triggered because he'll never be White.
>>536893604Bearing false witness is to slander someone.There must be a victim for it.Who is my victim?
>>536892839Circumcision is irrelevant to this discussion. Nonetheless, I shall answer: since the promulgation of the Gospel, it has been illicit for Christians to practice circumcision; it is not, however, intrinsically wrong.
>>536869038At 5 years old
>>536893640I will always be whiter than every single person you will ever know, and I will always have the eye of the Apex Predator.Cry and seethe.
>>536893471All the jannies seething the clearing cache and ad Homs I reveive is nothing compared to the true joy I see with comments like this.
>>536893741You sure? You can't even decide if you follow God, or are God.
>>536893806I worship God Almighty. You are the one with a conception of God Almighty in your head, and misunderstand Me.
>>536893714So I'll ask again, is circumcision of a baby, or someone unable to consent, objectively wrong?Yes or no? What a supposed gospel says or doesn't say is irrelevant.
>>536893874>Misunderstand me?What is there to misunderstand? You have made it abundantly clear you think you are chosen by God. You are contradicting The Bible.
>>536893946About me being God. I made myself clear I have no recollection of ever building this world. That credit belong to the Creator.
>>536894005You've also called yourself the Dragon. Which is Satan.
>>536894066God is a Dragon. Much like Akatosh, and Satan is akin to Alduin. The first creation of God.
>>536869470I LAUGH EVERYTIME SEEING SOME RETARD POSTING RABBI GAY LIAR LIKE HE'S BASED.
>>536893928>What a supposed gospel says or doesn't say is irrelevant.Let's not be churlish. I reject the Talmud and the Koran, for example, but I need not qualify them with "supposed". Likewise, it is not a little silly to refer to the Gospel as "supposed gospel". Calling something by its proper name doesn't imply that you accept its validity.In any case, my answer should've been clear, but I'll rephrase it: it is gravely sinful for Christians to practice circumcision, but it is not intrinsically wrong.
>>536894179>Uses popular culture to explain deep concepts like some retarded parable.
>>536894245>it is gravely sinful for Christians to practice circumcisionObjectively?
>>536894361That's just the Truth of the situation.
>>536890811>I have several peer-reviewed publications in very good STEM journalsNo you don't lol
>>536894420The Council of Florence declared it. I'm not sure if that satisfies what you mean by "objective."
>>536893928Why is it wrong to cut off some parts of babies, but not others? Why are only boys allowed to have pieces cut off? And of all the parts that baby boys have, it's somewhat suspicious that the one part allowed to be cut off is their genitals. When I see pictures of some savage African with scarring all over their body, or discs in their lips stretching them out to be monstrous, I wonder why everyone else feels that is so bizarre, but circumcision isn't. There is nothing you can say that will convince the cockchoppers that they're anything but sane, so why bother trying?
>>536894572>The Council of Florence declared itWell either you need then understand what objective means. Because if it is objectively sinful then it was so when Gid commanded it.Thanks for demonstrating your "absolute" is nothing more than absolute bullshit
>>536894491If you say so.
>>536869038>atheismDawkins atheism is literally just Neoconservatism and Zionist warmongering.>Libya is full of Muslim savages.>No, I won't tell you how.>But we should blow up their free schools, hospitals, universities, and replace them with open air slave markets and a massive migrant crisis because Libya itself was helping a lot of other African countries
>>536894638>Why is it wrong to cut off some parts of babies, but not others?>why is it wrong to cut off healthy parts of a babyIs this a serious question?>>536894655>Well either you need thenNeither you nor them*Sorry phone posting
>>536894716I don't, you did
Todd Howard is a Catholic. So, the elder score is a Catholic Creation, and by association. Akatosh, is indeed, the christian God.
>>536894655Objective, according to the OED, means 1) not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts or 2) not dependent on the mind for existence; actual. This is why I above used the term "intrinsic".
>>536894785Do you understand what the phrase "if you say so" means?
>>536894179>>536894361https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbxzeD5AHf0thanks for making this easy(personally, it was still pretty awesome until roiland got kicked out, if you ask me)(also, this is one of the worst rated eps of s4)(but its pretty awesome, really)
>>536894834>This is why I above used the term "intrinsic".Doesn't matter. The fact remains >>536894655>Because if it is objectively sinful then it was so when Gid commanded it.>Thanks for demonstrating your "absolute" is nothing more than absolute bullshitChanging objectively to intrinsic makes your absolute bullshit even more hilarious
>>536894923That's just it dummy, I didn't have to say anything, you did it for me
>>536889762its actually christians who are way too stupid to understand that there even would be a difference between those two things>what do you mean christianity is fake? you can't possibly disprove god
>>536894978I wrote that circumcision is *not* intrinsically wrong. And I still don't see the relevance of circumcision to this discussion.
>>536894758>Is this a serious question?It's telling that you somehow think it could anything other than a serious, basic question with a painfully obvious answer. Some cult of bronze age devil worshippers (still around, unfortunately) started doing it millennia ago, and now you can't help but want to chop your son's dick off before he's old enough to fight you away from doing it. Yes, it's a serious fucking question. You do get that the jews believe that they're supposed to do it to their slaves, even if the slaves aren't jews, right? That's why it was done to you. To mark you as their slave.
>>536895000The phrase "if you say so" is a polite way to express disagreement. I used that phrase because I thought it silly to argue over something that I can prove only by doxxing myself.
>>536869038around age 24. I was Christian but realized that I probably wouldn't be had I been born somewhere that another religion was the most popular. also that most religious people present the lack of evidence as evidence for their deity. it's so flimsy and unappealing.
>>536895087>And I still don't see the relevance of circumcision to this discussion.It just demonstrates you have no objective morality >>536895186>The phrase "if you say so" is a polite way to express disagreement.There isn't any disagreement though lol
OP is a gaynigger faggotbut so is this entire gay and fake threadyou all got obliterated by this my single one post.get fucked niggers/herbal
>>536895096>Yes, it's a serious fucking question.Wow
>>536894572>The Council of Florence declared itI also didn't ask what they thought. I asked you
>>536895048>what do you mean christianity is fake? you can't possibly disprove godThat doesn't really work even as a caricature. If A implies B, and A is known to be true, then B cannot be false. So, it's completely logical for a Christian to hold that it is impossible to prove the existence of God. On the other hand, it is entirely possible to prove the existence of God.
>>536895434>On the other hand, it is entirely possible to prove the existence of God.To yourself
>>536895252>It just demonstrates you have no objective moralityWhat do you think that the word "objective" means?> There isn't any disagreement though lolBut there *is* disagreement; that's why I used the phrase.
>>536895563>What do you think that the word "objective" means?What I think doesn't matter. You've already demonstrated as such. See:>>536895431
>>536895488So, you've studied all the arguments for the existence of God and you've detected at least one error in each?
>>536895667Yup
>>536895651I'll rephrase: what does the word "objective" mean?
>>536895710Again>>536895431>>The Council of Florence declared it>I also didn't ask what they thought. I asked you
>>536895694What do you think of Godel's ontological argument? Not the one in first-order modal logic posthumously published by Dana Scott, but the unpublished ultrafilter one?
>>536869470Trent Horn makes a living destroying Jay Dyer
>>536895823I'm just going to refer you to >>536895756
>>536895756Have you no access to a dictionary? What does the word "objective" mean?
>>536895953Again,>>536894245>it is gravely sinful for Christians to practice circumcisionObjectively?
>>536895929What does that have to do with Godel's ontological argument?
>>536896028Why can't you answer the question?
>>536896058I've already answered several times your question about circumcision, however irrelevant to the discussion it may be. For the last time: although it is illicit for Christians to practice circumcision, it is not intrinsically wrong. This is *objective* in the sense given by the OED, namely, not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts.
>>536896307>it is illicit for Christians to practice circumcision>This is *objective*No it isn't. Objective means it's always been been wrong, absent personal feelings and opinions.Which also means it was illicit and gravely sinful when your "God" commanded it.Why does this matter? It demonstrates that you have no objective absolute on morality. As the very "absolute" you claim isn't absolute.And I'll go further; any "proof" you have of this "God" isn't objective but just your personal feelings and opinions Like your morality
