I'm reading letters by Germans written in 1942, 1943. Most of them weren't retarded, they knew war turned against them and that there's chance to lose. Their own government lied but didn't lie in a brazen, insane manner - after some time they admitted defeat at Stalingrad for example, and they admitted difficulties. Their government respected them enough to not try bullshit propaganda, as they knew it would bite them in the ass. These were people who lived at a time when acquiring any knowledge, information, required at least some physical effort. Much of information was beyond the reach of ordinary guy. They lived under ''totalitarian'' regime where sometimes even trying to acquire information could get you in trouble. Skip forward to 2026 - like half of Western world believes insane nonsense like Ukraine ''winning'' the war. The fact media and ''experts'' are looping same tropes and lines over and over for four years doesn't even register in their brains. Russia lost in 2022. Then in 2023. Then in 2024. Then in 2025. Now they're losing again!Iran? Iran was defeated on day one. Then on day 5. Then in two weeks. Then in two months. All their military is gone. USA won. Then won again. Then again. Now it's about to win again.
Now logical thing to assume is that people in charge aren't that dumb. But they seem to understand their population is completely dumbed down and brainwashed, or they simply wouldn't resort to such low-brow propaganda that contradicts itself every two weeks as it would bite them in the ass. However the process seems to be complete, and ultimate irony is that all the information is within their grasp. There are no physical or IT obstacles. They can learn about reality and truth online. But they just don't do it. Talking to these people is like something straight out of Twilight Zone, they just blurt out slogans and can't deduce basic things. ''AI'' will probably make this shit even worse as they will become even dumber and more inept. If EU and USA exist by 2050, it will be a miracle.
> Their government respected them enough to not try bullshit propaganda,That’s simply incorect, but you’re right about the other stuff.Boss thread OP, have a bump!
what has russia gained from this so called special military opperation?
>>536872048The way to cure yourself of being mindfucked by propaganda is to realize that all education, media, etc etc, down to most nominally private bloggers, youtubers etc, is owned by the state and speaks with a single voice, even if they're personally so heckin convinced that they are redpilled. Once you see clearly that it's all coming from the same source, it'll be intuitively obvious how retarded it is to listen to these people, similar to communist propaganda. Also it's actually a lot harder than you think to figure out what's really going on. There's a crazy number of barriers and interpretations that claim to be the real deal but are just more heckin valid redpilled nonsense. Consider the enormous number of normalfags convinced that "le billionaires and rich rightwingers" control everything, a la chomsky
>>536873088Let’s reverse that: what has Russia LOST by this conflict?
>>536872048just 5 more years and russia will winalso>Monte-Negro>Mountain-Nigger:D:DD
>>536875872Their izzat, economy, European market and any chance of having a puppet regime in Kiev.
>>536876203Answer this>>536875872Why does it matter if they take 3 or 4 or 5 more years? Where’s the actual pressure on them? Their whole strategic approach to this war seems to be making the minimum required effort. That’s why nothing happened. There was no “economic meltdown”. There was no “collapse”. Russian regime is more stable than it was in 2021.This (basically making things worse) had direct cost of like one trillion dollars and rapid decline of Europe as whole as a relevant geopolitical actor.
>>536875872According to trannies and mentally challenged female politicians, losing access to Spotify and Netflix was a decisive blow to Russia as a civilisation.
>>536872048Russia is losing by every measurable metric
>>536876612>economy Are you sure?
>>536876821Please name or show some of these metrics but make a serious attempt to not be horifically retarded and quote Ukrainian government.
By the way I love how you’re avoiding point about Iran, cause same people who claim Ukraine is winning now also claim USA won in Iran (like a dozen times so far).
>>536877016Russian loses list:>Approx. 1,378,820 personnel (includes killed, severely wounded, missing, and captured).>12,010 tanks>24,727 armored vehicles>43,787 towed artillery pieces and self-propelled howitzers.>1,859 rocket systems (such as BM-21 Grad and TOS-1A thermobaric launchers).>1,416 systems (including highly advanced S-350, S-400, Tor, and Pantsir missile systems).>1,628 unmanned ground vehicles.>436 planes reported lost by Ukraine's MoD (including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-35 fighters, and rare A-50 airborne early warning and control aircraft).>353 helicopters (including Ka-52 "Alligator" attack helicopters and Mi-8 transport variants).>33 warships destroyed or permanently disabled.>Over $300 billion in Russian Central Bank foreign currency assets frozen by Western and allied nations.>An estimated 550,000 to 850,000 Russian citizens permanently fled the country following the 2022 invasion and subsequent mobilization waves, heavily impacting Russia's domestic technology and professional sectors.>Permanent loss of the majority of the European natural gas and oil markets, alongside billions of dollars in damage to domestic oil refineries targeted by Ukrainian long-range drone strikes.>ukraine will never be an russian ally again>lost syria>lost moldova>Finland and Sweden in NATO>Poland and Lithuania will host nuclear weaponsdo you want more?
Russian subhumans are poorer than Turks KEKKKK
Russia is stuck in a quagmire. Ukraine isn't going anywhere, even the USA stopping support didn't even cause a blip in Russian gains.
Imagine being a ruslim and your only "out" are the -stan countries or the worst shitholes in the fuckng balkans lmao. Have fun with the mountain-jeets, pidor.
>>536875872An increasingly large chunk of their population which was already in steep decline
>>536876932This position on the list is hardly something they can brag about. It won't get better now.
>>536875872Finland and sweden joined NATO, they lost millions of dollars, several arms and ammo depots in russia have been blown up, tens of thousands of Russian young men are dead, overseas property has been seized, and they aren't seen as a strong threat anymore.However they have gained 40000 sq miles of territory that are also heavily depopulated with bombed out infrastructure. Not sure its a good trade.
>>536877293>make a serious attempt to not be horrifically retarded and quote Ukrainian governmentThanks for playing. As for the rest of the list: >Over $300 billion in Russian Central Bank foreign currency assets frozen by Western and allied nations.Doesn't really mean shit, they absorbed that loss and they'll eventually recover that money. >An estimated 550,000 to 850,000 Russian citizens permanently fledNot really, most of them promptly returned. And they gained few million people in occupied Ukraine to make things funnier, plus even if we accept your number that's less than 1% of Russian population. >Permanent loss of the majority of the European natural gas and oil marketsThat seems to have crippled Europe instead while they simply reoriented towards selling somewhere else. >ukraine will never be an russian ally againUkraine most probably won't exist in the near future judging how things are going. >lost syriaOh no. To make things even funnier they still own bases there. >lost moldovaWhen did they HAVE Moldova? >Finland and Sweden in NATONot the mighty Finland and Sweden! They totally weren't US vassal states prior to 2022!>Poland and Lithuania will host nuclear weapons...and? Seriously this is what I'm talking about, you people are completely imbecilic. Imagine invoking FINLAND in a talk about major geopolitical conflict. >Finland is in NATO now>this is a crippling blow to Russia because REASONS Your IQ can't be over 80.
>>536872048Oh, have they taken Kiev? I stopped paying attention years ago but GG if so
>>536877701>>536877606What ''increasingly large chunk''? They have like 200-250 thousand KIA so far according to one of the few serious (propaganda) assessments of their loses. 20000 people die in car accidents yearly in Russia. It's a 150 million country. Things you talk about mean absolutely nothing on NATIONAL level. None of the shit this Pole wrote is relevant either. So far, in a decade of geopolitical confrontation facing almost entire Western world, Russians lost virtually nothing they can't easily replace in near future or haven't replaced already. In 2022 I expected their living standards would plummet or that their economy would face serious issues, even that hasn't transpired.
>>536877755Finland can bomb russian nuclear submarine feel from it's territory in 15 minutes your cope is cute>YEAR 5 OF RUSSIA BEING STUCK IN DONBASSAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
And to make things even funnier (concerning loses), like half of their casualties are prisoners, mercenaries, or ethnic minorities.
>>536878045>Finland can bomb russian nuclear submarine feel from it's territory in 15 minutesAnd they couldn't have done that in 2021?I'm not even gonna bother with the mechanics of ''Finland bombing russian nuclear submarine fleet'' as you're clearly too retarded to delve into complex topics.
>>536872048tru
>>536878158are you just retarded or pretending why aren't you on the front line but in montenegro ivan?
>>536878338You talk like a nigger baboon. You just blurt out pure shit with no meaning. Thanks for making my point ITT.
>>536878419>Year 5 of russians being in donbassyou shilling for russia will just become even funniest every single day
>>536877942>250k losses mean nothingThis type of logic is why third world countries are poor after wars. Every man you lose in a war is a factory worker, a farmer, a young man is the primary driver of labor production.The USA lost 60k men in vietnam and was considered a major loss of life and future potential, and here you are saying Russia has lost 4 times that amount and its not a big deal. And they've lost their lived for bombed out ruins. Its not a gain to kill off hundreds of thousands of young men for bombed out ruins.
>>536878528>Year 5 of russians being in donbassAnd?
>>536878695>And?and russians are losing and you will never be a woman
>>536878680Are you seriously incapable of understanding the scale we're talking about here? 250K KIA is simply nothing for a 150 million country. They literally GAINED significantly more people during this war. Yes, in absolute terms it's a loss, but it's simply not some crippling, long-term loss. They're waging a high-stakes proxy war with enormous implications.
>>536878695Nothing at all. Great job, lol
>>536878791>you will never be a womanYou however ARE a woman, mentally. You talk like a woman and you reason like a woman.
>>536878867Why does it matter if they win in the end? Imagine Ukraine collapses in a year or two and they just occupy whatever they want. >haha it took you 5/6 years to defeat this 40 million proxy on which we spent 1 trillion dollars >this doesn't count as victory!No one cares. That's the point of my thread, you're functionally mentally deficient. You can't grasp reality anymore on a very basic level.
>>536879065How much longer do you see the war going on for?
>>536877701>Finland and sweden joined NATOHow is that good for Finland or Sweden? Abandoning neutrality to join the anti-Russia alliance just makes them a target. Has hosting US bases helped the Gulf states? No, it got them bombed, because the US can't do shit to protect them even if it wanted to. Countries realizing this is part of the reason the US is going to be asked to leave Taiwan and South Korea, and potentially Japan, depending on how hard you continue to fuck them over with this Iran war.
>>536879065>ukraine will collapse soon...lol what a cope 2 more weeks
And big part of this whole schizo narrative is how there's always implication that Ukraine is somehow irrelevant (despite all the resources pooled into it and their effort) and that beyond Ukraine Russians face REAL obstacles...but that's just ridiculous bullshit. Besides Poland and maybe Romania, conditionally speaking, there's not a single state in modern Europe that could realistically sustain a full-blown conventional conflict of this or bigger scale for more than a few weeks. Even fucking Poland is a joke. To give you an illustration at the start of this war Ukraine had like 300-400 S-300s, shitload of other high-end late-Soviet gear, basically largest arsenal in Europe by far, as well as huge pool of trained personnel. Poland has 2 batteries of Patriot and like 50 SA-3's from 1960's when it comes to air defenses. And this is one of the more serious European armies.
>>536879410I agree with you OP, but how much longer do you see this war continuing for?
>>536879410Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense system that's being build out Polsih AD compared to russian air defense russsians is a JOKE
>>536879152I won't be making any predictions as my predictions were wrong in the past, we simply don't know many details, and I can't predict what sort of effort will Russians mount (will they increase or remain at the same level). But one thing is certain: Ukraine will lose the same way EVERY SINGLE country lost in a war of attrition - very suddenly and very violently. Eventually they'll just collapse and collapse rapidly and Russians will just literally drive forward and occupy whatever they want. This is inevitable scenario as in real life, even in the most optimistic for them/pessimistic for Russians analysis (talking about somewhat realistic analysis, not ridiculous propaganda), their losses are about equal. Problem is Russia is a 150 million country, and Ukraine has like 21-22 million people left. All they can do at this point is just bleed to death.
>>536879700So will Russia take more or will Putin cuck out after Donbass?
>>536879667>Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense systemPoland has AI-powered railguns that fire nanotech shells that disintegrate vatniks on quantum level!But no, in real life, Poland has two batteries of Patriots (with no ammo coming in the future as USA spent much of their reserves and active stock and must retain what they have), and like 50 SA-3 units. Everything else are MANPADs and small amount of short range mobile systems.
>>536879667AD systems mean nothing in modern war.
>>536879065European countries have bigger problems than how much money they pour into Ukraine. Why do Russians even care about European finances and fiscal policy? Russia was the one that attacked Ukraine in the first place anyways, so they only got themselves to blame. And investing money in Ukraine seems like a good deal - it weakens Russia as a military power and in power projection, pisses Russians off, lowers the chances of starting shit elsewhere (like with Russian minority in the Baltics for example). Most of the dead or soon to be dead Russians are shitty consumers and bad potencial foreign workforce for European businesses, so their deaths don't really affect European economies due to loss of consumers anyway. Russians managed to permanently and strongly damage the Ukrainian demographics, and if Ukrainians are willing and capable to bring as many Russians as they can down with them, provided Europe sends them some money and old equipment, while using Ukrainian experience and new expertize in defense sector to improve our of defense and defense sector, why the fuck not?
>>536879065>Imagine Ukraine collapses in a year or two and they just occupy whatever they wantSunken cost fallacy
>>536879870the cope is realrussia can't even protect it's refineries
>>536879410>russia will win because it has 150 million people and ukraine only has 20 million>europe is pathetically weak with only 650 million people with no way to best russias 150 million peopleOk>>536879158Do the other NATO member not exist?
>>536879790Putin will never ''cuck out'' as Putin isn't Stalin and there's other people making decisions there too who won't allow that. Like their military, their security apparatus, and Russian population for that matter. Not even Stalin could singularly make decisions on a whim by the way. Russians aren't waging a war of numbers and PR. Their goal from the start is elimination of Ukraine as a viable entity, aimed at them. They will achieve this goal, one way or another, as they feel it's existential issue for them. Their secondary goal is of course weakening NATO/American Empire, and pushing it away from their borders.
>>536872048AAAAAAAAHHHHHH !!!!SHILL SHILL KREMLIN BOT YOU ARE A KREMLIN BOT !PUTINS ASSASSINS WILL KILL US ALLAAAAAAAAAAAAHH !!!! I CAN HEAR RUSSIAN PARATROOPERS COMING DOWN TO MURDER RAPE MESALO UKRAINIYIV !!!
>>536872048>anxious pidor noisesit seems things are going well
>>536872048white males are the problem. They are the root problem of everything. Every white male needs to go to ukraine or israel either by force or by volunteering, preferably by force
>>536879873>Modern warSo in that case, you mean never? Germany and Britain had strong air defenses and they still got bombed heavily during ww2, Serbs in 1999. had all air defense Yugoslavia had, and they were hopeless against the airstrikes, same with Iraq in 91 and 2003...
>>536879667>Poland has Europe's most advanced Air Defense systemI bet you actually believe this tooPolish (and European) AD is predicated on the pinky promise that US will one day deliver the batteries and interceptors they paid for but can't for the next couple of years because they all need to be sent to Israel. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-officials-tell-european-countries-expect-weapons-delivery-delays-sources-say-2026-04-16/AND you're competing with the Ukrainians who also don't have any interceptors.https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-volodymyr-zelenskyy-pleads-with-us-donald-trump-for-patriots-to-fight-russian-bombardment/Even if they waved a magic wand and delivered on all their promises, the US only produces ~600 interceptors a year, which is enough to defend against 12 hour's worth of drones (and this is according to Ukrainian drone experts like Serhii Beskrestnov), assuming a 100% interception rate which they absolutely do not have. And then you have all the missiles.
>>536872048Reading, writing, and being able to preserve such things were for the relatively well-off, it's possible that your average bumpkin coped the same way westerners do, but they didn't have a platform unlike now. And while information is widely available today, there's a ton of false information to sift through, including echochambers. But otherwise, you're probably right, westerners lack any degree of nuance or critical thinking once their biases are confirmed. There's also a lot of people who simply believe anything is true if they believe it is. People have had their IQ raped from pollution, lack of social stimulation or spirituality, information overload, etc. so you get the modern western population, full of hopeless retards.
>>536872048You are now aware the purpose of propaganda is not to inform but to demoralize. And this demoralization isn't meant for the enemy, but for the domestic population. Being told obvious lies and forced to accept them is the quickest way to make the population apathetic so they don't overthrow you.
>>536880069>heh Russians can't stop EVERY Ukrainian missile and drone that Ukrainians target using the pooled intelligence from every NATO country and USA >that means>that means POLAND STRONG As I said, you're an imbecile. >>536880072>europe is pathetically weak with only 650 million peopleMost of Europe isn't in a political, cultural, economic or military state to wage an actual war with Russia. Could that change? In theory, yes, if they quickly make a 180 and basically reverse everything they did for the past few decades. Do you think that's reasonable to expect?
>>536880072>Do the other NATO member not exist?They might as well not. For all intents and purposes the US is NATO, and despite their bravado the Euros know it. That's why they panic every time Trump threatens to pull out.
>>536880294good thing Poles so smart
>>536879925>Russia was the one that attacked Ukraine in the first place anywaysRussia is the one who attacked Ukraine, but USA and part of EU are the ones who installed their proxy regime there in 2014 in spite of Russian disagreement. >Serbs in 1999. had all air defense Yugoslavia hadMost of which was ridiculously outdated and not even a fraction of what Ukraine had in 2022.
>>536877293>>Approx. 1,378,820 personnel (includes killed, severely wounded, missing, and captured).worthless, every single one of them
>>536880364I think its reasonable to expect the country that took 5 years to end up in a stalemate with a country on its doorstep controlling only 15% of the land of a country that is 1/8th the population size to try and pretend it can take on a continent that is 4x bigger than it is.
One of the Polish flags is a Bangladeshi the other is an unironic bitch who fled before getting drafted
>>536877606Lol nigga we've got 5kk hohol refugees the first year alone. And with the current war scale we will remain net positive on pop even if the war goes on for decades.
>>536880364>Most of Europe isn't in a political, cultural, economic or military state to wage an actual war with Russia.for what purpose? there's nothing of any worth out there, most of europe is about thrice more developed
>>536880459>Poland will buildNo, it won't. Europe has been saying it's been going to rearm for the past 4 years. Well, where are the factories? The energy to power them? The weapons? The soldiers to use them? Just words and empty promises.
>>536880728you somebody even cope harder than you at this point?
>>536880824is it cope or is it learned experience from living in a hellhole? that's most likely an ivan.
>>536880599I think it's reasonable to expect that Persians who control 30% of relevant world to fuck up this Macedonian retard who invaded them with 50000 Greek faggots. I think it's reasonable to expect Chinese vanquish these Mongol savages who drink horse piss. I think it's reasonable to expect that French, Dutch, Belgians and British hold the line for more than a few weeks fighting these WW1 losers who are numerically inferior to them. I think it's reasonable to expect that the most powerful military in the world on which 1 trillion dollars is spent yearly can manage a conflict against these theocratic retards who were sanctioned for decades. Are you catching on? Conflicts don't unfold the way you think they do. Modern Europe is a CORPSE, in cultural, societal, political sense. Now for the record I don't argue Russian tanks will be in Paris in 2032. But I do argue that if Russians decide to maybe take a slice or two of Estonia and Latvia in 2030, all EU will be able to do is express serious concerns. Ukrainian Army is the field army of NATO right now. And it's losing. They won't be able to field another army like that from their own population unless radical changes are made and quickly.
>>536880946>But I do argue that if Russians decide to maybe take a slice or two of Estonia and Latvia in 2030, all EU will be able to do is express serious concerns.and your conclusion is Estonia and Lativa rejoin the Russian Federation today before this happenswe know, Ivanbut it's not going to happen that way try coming in 2030 and see what happens
>>536880946>Modern Europe is a CORPSE, in cultural, societal, political sense.compared to fucking russia of all the places in the world? nigger please.
>>536872048Both sides employ the same propaganda.
>>536880824Would you like to try that again in coherent English or should I just take that as your concession? Because your negative IQ 'boland stronk' babbling is boring.
>>536881119Big difference is that no one gives a fuck what Russian General Staff says on the other side, I think they even stopped making regular updates as they sounded ridiculous. Meanwhile ITT you have mental cripples who unironically quote Ukrainian propaganda, on 4chan out of all places. Judge yourself.
>>536881081Yes, modern Russia is culturally and politically far more vital than United Kingdom, or France, or Germany.
Yeah but what if russia is losing?
>>536881351it's Nigeria but with snow
>>536880946>>536881272russia Lost>Soviet-Afghan War>polish soviet war of 1920>WW1>russo-Japanese war>crimean War>War of the Fourth Coalition>Russo-Turkish War of 1711>smolensk War>polsih muscovite war>Livonian Warit's only reasonable to expect Russia to lose to Ukraine
>>536881119Russians are TERRIBLE at propaganda, they don't even bother to show up to play the information war game, the Ukrainians would win by default even if they weren't great at it. Look at Iran, now that's a country that knows how to conduct information war. They're making the Americans look like imbeciles.
>>536881272It's probably a Ukrainian. Not that there aren't retarded Poles here or in general but whenever you see ESL tard writing like a bipolar woman and nigger looping it's most probably Ukrainian diaspora.
>>536881407>but whataboutOk Pawel concession accepted, now get back to work
>>536881280They stopped making updates after the first few months because it obviously didn't match reality. I guess you are right. Russian propaganda is largely aimed internally too. They produce shitty propaganda material, a lot of it is webmd here. >>536880284Yugoslavia had shit military, our air defense was worthless. Old 1960s tech.
>>536881407Congratulations on completely missing the point and further downgrading the collective estimate of your IQ.
Propaganda has changed its form since then.Firstly, knowing that censorship was a losing strategy in the age of the internet, they adapted their strategy. Instead of deleting or retracting information, "censorship" is now achieved by flooding the zone with as much information as possible, much of it complete nonsense. By creating a huge volume of noise, it makes it harder to find the signal.Secondly, they promoted the individualization of worldviews. Rather than many people sharing on agreed upon truth, the strategy is to encourage each individual to curate his own worldview. Each individual is free to pick-n-mix from all for information available, and stick it together in his own mind however he wishes. The result is that no two people can agree upon anything. This is a granular version of Divide and Conquer; the ultimate version of atomization. When no one can agree upon anything, they cannot unite or organize, and they cannot bring their force of numbers to bear upon the powerful that rule over them.
>>536881429Cause they are ruled by geriatric USSR boomers.
>>536881518>Russian propaganda is largely aimed internally too.And it's far more realistic and grounded than Western media or shit Ukrainian government says. There's a FEW Ukrainian milbloggers who aren't totally retarded, but their reach is obviously just Ukrainians and Russians as Westerners can't read that.
>>536881351name any piece of relevant culture coming from russia and by any i mean any even a hit song will suffice.protip: you can't
>>536880946All of those examples listed didnt have the leader lose 20% of their forces against their next door neighbor in a 5 year stalemate.
>>536872048This nigga talking about US like that, your society will fail, no feudalism, no geopolitics.
>>536881614>lose 20% of their forcesAgain with the mythical percentages. >>536881605Vodka.
to me the funniest thing is how Ukrainians go to such an effort to portray themselves as NOT-Russians, an entirely different culture and idiosyncrasies, but the way they behave and act is the most Russian, vatnik-like way possible. Ukrainian propaganda is peak Soviet, turn off your brain comrade levels of retarded, and morons lap that shit up like it's the gospel.
>>536881683half a millennium old and it's not even russian to begin with
>>536881683Russia states their military force is 1.5 million men, YOU provided the claim that 250k died already.
>>536881605Half of my bookshelf is made up of Russian books, I only got one Polish book. Actually two, I think second guy was a jew tho.
>>536877442What a bunch of losers
>>536881833why tho?
>>536881717Ukrainians are village retards by nature. People who idolise rural people in Eastern Europe and rural life just need to look at them. It’s very ugly.
>>536872048I'm reading those same letters on telegram. From Russians. They lost.
>>536880541It sucks then that Russians only could show their grievance towards the Ukrainian government by starting an all out war with their neighbor, 8 years after the revolution. >Most of which was ridiculously outdated Which then goes to show how inadequately equipped JNA was, it would've stood no chance against European forces of the time, especially if Croats and Slovenes don't show up to fight like in 1941. >>536880701First year alone, when you captured vast majority of the territory, and most importantly without destruction. How many net positive have you received since then? Especially those who are underaged or net positive to the economy and demographics? Future of the Russian nation?
>>536881429OP is Russian propaganda, Russians focus on "alternative" media to convince retards of their greatness. Russians aren't as bad as you think at propaganda, in fact they are rather effective.
>>536881868In high school I liked Russian classics (now I don't, but I still love Gogol a lot, I despise Dostoyevsky, Lermontov is cool too). I also have some USSR sci-fi novels from brothers who wrote Roadside Picnic which Stalker is based on. They wrote "Doomed city" which is one of my favouties. It is a satire on communism written on some random planet.But if I really had to choose, I would rank English literature higher as it suits me better.From Poles, I've got Sapkowski.Russia might have been shitty historically (imo right now it's not that bad as people make it out to be, just don't live outside of several cities) but at least they are self aware to the point they can write great books.
>>536881918Da trebali su racionalno to da rasprave sa paravojskama koje finansira SAD i koje kreću u etničko čišćenje Ukrajine od Rusa. >it would've stood no chance against European forces of the timeYes that’s why TO existed as a concept.
>>536882099>just don't live outside of several citiesPošto sam bio tamo da ti saopštim da je Rusija jedno 10-15 godina ispred Srbije i CG.
>>536881603>their reach is obviously just Ukrainians and Russians as Westerners can't read that.You've never heard of Google translate?Show flag btw.
>>536882018Damn Russian propaganda works on some people from traditionally pro-Russian countries (if you consider Montenegro separate from us, they were historically much bigger Russophiles than us). Montenegro is OG Russophilia central.
>>536879065And you missed the point. Russia has lost its arsenal. Armored vehicles, aircraft. It's weaker than ever before. Ukraine destroyed the facade of Russia being the "second army in the world". And now, satellite countries of Russia realize this: it's possible to show a middle finger to Moscow and keep it at distance with enough resources and determination.And this is not going to get better.
>>536881603The point is Ukraine and its backers are able to convince their own populations and even Russian liberals and dissidents that NATO is winning in Ukraine, while Russians don't even try to contest the information space. They're basically handing their enemies free reign to do as they please. It's true that propaganda doesn't outweigh the reality of the battlefield but if the Europeans weren't convinced that they were winning what they think is a just war, they wouldn't be as willing to put up with the sacrifices they are being made to by their governments, and that has tangible consequences.
>>536882254I am showing the flag. And they simply aren’t exposed to it. You think modern Westerners are gonna scour through Telegram looking for Ukrainian channels?
>>53688224920 godina su ispred Srbije, ali Srbija je iznad Moldavije, Albanije, Bosne i Makedonije, tako da nije neka drzava za poredjenje. Rusi su bolji od 80% istocne Evrope po standardu, ali od Poljske, Ceske, Slovenije nisu. Imaju problema koje ima svaka evropska nacija, ali na zapadu imaju vise para.
>>536882366>You think modern Westerners are gonna scour through Telegram looking for Ukrainian channels?Yes. I'm a modern westerner and that's what I do.
>>536882279Uopšte nisam ni rusofil. Moderni Judeo-Zapad je potpuno demonizovan i u stanju raspada. Naravno da ću da podržavam Ruse, Kineze ili Iran dok ih jebu.
>>536882307>Russia has lost its arsenalDamn if only they had these places called factories where they could build this stuff!
>>536882576Those get bombed too. Do try to keep up.
>>536882099>In high school I liked Russian classicsnot only is is poverty porn every single storyline is the same: hero suffers, does something bad, suffers from guilt, gets caught, suffers some more than goes through catharsismost overrated graphomania in history, you can't help having read that in school but collecting that pulp is pure skill issue.granted there were some good scifi russian authors with pretty radical ideas but it's all top niche.
>>536881429A lot of propaganda now, including Russian, is intentionally terrible.This is because the purpose is not to make you believe the message of the propaganda, but to undermine truth all messaging, everywhere, of every kind.For example, many of the examples given of facebook memes from Russia aimed at Americans intentionally drop the articles to make them "sound Russian". In an age of AI free and easy AI translation, there is simply no reason for this. The purpose is to intentionally out it as a piece of propaganda.The end result: no one knows what to believe, or whom to believe, about anything. It is a variation on "flood the zone".Everone point fingers at everybody else for "being a kremlin/bot/propagandist/shill/77th brigade/eglin airforce base shill and so on and so forth. A sea of individuals, each of whom distrusts all of the others. Rational discussion becomes impossible. The system wins.
>>536882515Da sam Rus i da mi kazu idi na front ne bih isao, ne bih se borio ni za koga trenutno. Iranci su muslimanski kozojebi ali neka jebu Izrael.Ti isti Rusi mnogo vole zapad. Sva deca od politicke elite im se tamo skoluje. Imaju oni psiholoskih problema.
>>536882576Be kind, factories and industry are basically lostech for Europeans
>>536882437>od Poljske, Ceske, Slovenije nisuNisu daleko, ako pričamo o “običnim” stvarima. Ako pričamo u nacionalnom, kulturološkom, političkom smislu, Rusija je ozbiljna država a ovo su kolonije u kojima vladaju jevrejske kučke.
>>536882689>Iranci su muslimanski kozojebikek, some things cross language barriers so easily
>>536882638Yeah which is why I grew out of it and like niche books or poetry of theirs that has nothing to do with such common tropes. Gogol and Lermontov are a lot different. Dostoyevsky deserves to be hated for his victimising christcuckery.Do you guys have some good literature?
>>536880364>Most of Europe isn't in a political, cultural, economic or military state to wage an actual war with Russia.It doesn't have to be, from our perspective. In the end it's all about the aircraft fleet, specialized units, possible blockade of Russian Baltic ports and supplies for a country attacked by Russia.More than enough for a successful defensive war.
>>536881272Boland really got one shot by that Sabaton song.
>>536882689>isti Rusi mnogo vole zapadViše ne. Probudili su se. Elita se još nije probudila, ali polako će da se mijenjaju. >>536882612Are you even Ukrainian? If you aren’t, I’m not interested in talking to you.
>>536882151What ethnic cleansings? When did that happen? Just a question, who do you think had it worse, Ukrainians in the separatist republics or Russians in Ukraine?>Yes that’s why TO existed as a conceptAnd you think Slovenians, Croats, Muslims and Macedonians would fight in great numbers if we were at war with West European countries?
>>536881918All Russian KIA with at least claimed proof so far is ~300k, most of them the first year as well. Make it even 1kk with all the wounded - and you get less than men alone in those 5kk first year refugees. And the current scale of war is magnitudes lower than the first year.
>>536882818not really
>>536880373They panic only because it hurts their boomer wallets. Merz already has his Canossa moment.
>>536882817I learned a Polish word today since that Eli girl from Russia (Udmurt I think) makes linguistic videos with her other Slavic friends. Polish is hilarious sometimes but all Slavic languages are to other Slavic speakers.
>>536881918Barely anything has happened since the first year aside from Wagner taking Bakhmut which was in the 2nd year and I had to go look up the name of the town and the year because despite the massive coverage of it I literally forgot the details. Normies would remember even less and just give you a fluoride stare if you asked them about it so OP is right that you can just use the same talking points for years and it will work.
>>536882891>And you think Slovenians, Croats, Muslims and Macedonians would fight in great numbersNo that’s why I believe Yugoslavia was a historic mistake as the high point of your nations is being a slave to foreigners. That’s why I respect Russians. They’re a sovereign nation.
>>536882931Serbs have some great literature if you're 60+ and love boredom, and sadly it's what they push in schools so I have never deeply explored our literature, shame.Selimovic's book called Island (it should be translated to English) is heavier than any sad Russian literature and it briefly made me depressive, that's the only one I can recommend though I am not sure what the guy identified as, it hardly matters anyways.
>>536883249Serbs are in shit situation for the past few decades but we are the only people in this region that do not default to tribalism. If USSR ever attacked Yugoslavia we would have never defected or surrendered wholly like others did to Germany in WWII.
>>536883307>I am not sure what the guy identified as, it hardly matters anyways.Yes only thing that matters is consuming and thinking about future consumption. Such basic topics are below you, the enjoyer of English literature. Which by the way sucks ass and the only reason anyone knows about it is due to prevalence of English language.
>>536880728I agree that Brussels does everything to sabotage any industry in EU, military industry in the first place. Brussels should be eliminated for the common good.It doesn't change the fact that Macierewicz, Błaszczak, and even the wonderful brainless kid Kosiniak- Kamysz did their part to get the local production of military toys. We are talking about the last 10 years.Huta Stalowa Wola probably has already started the production of M903, they signed the papers in 2024.
>>536875872More than 1 million men taken out of the genetic pool, either dead or maimed.Lost about 20-30% of gas and oil revenue compared to 2022, due to Russia having to compensate for the loss of a high-paying customer (Europe) with China and India who negotiated much lower prices, because it was Russia that was desperate to sell, not them to buy.Technological embargo on any high-tech. They have to go through untold hoops just to buy stuff that now costs them way more and it takes longer to get shipped.Most of their national wealth fund is gone. They have like a few tens of billions of cash left. And their deficit is shooting up fast. And it doesn't matter that Russia has low debt, if it has nobody willing to lend the huge amounts of money to keep funding its war.Most of their armor stock has also been destroyed. And it's not even that useful anymore as expensive tanks get owned by drones.They also lost like 30% of their strategic bombers to that drone attack.And I think the damage to refineries and depots is getting close to cutting about 15% of their oil output. At least this happened in April. And it's not showing signs of relenting, Ukrops are just getting started and getting better at this. They could lose half of their oil production by the end of this year.Their Caucasus bvlls are angry as fuck because they wanted to go berserk in this war but they can't. And ended up getting destroyed instead. And their regions defunded. The churkas will explode after the war.Russia is starting to lose Crimea, not territorially but logistically. They just can't defend it anymore, they have no way to ship gasoline there. Anyone worth their salt in Russia is sanctioned and can't travel or move money through any Western country. Which hurts their businesses. They're already megafucked by the expensive credit, high inflation, higher taxes that were hiked to fund the war more.And they are currently getting North Korean level of censorship & forced state apps
>>536883063it's literally sun (słoneczne) glasses (okulary) but with the word anti (przeciw) squeezed inanti-sun glasses because those glasses work against the sun, not with it quite logical if you ask me but yeah, Czech language makes Poles lol Sprskohrvatski is quite easy to grasp once you figure out the basic phonetic differences
There's new joke in Russia>we have Oreshnik>and no gasoline>pypa conclusions
>>536880728You're just not well-informed, you want to be fed
>>536883528>Russia is starting to lose Crimea, not territorially but logistically. They just can't defend it anymore, they have no way to ship gasoline thereDamn I heard this like a dozen times so far during this war. This exact same line. Bizarre.
>>536880946>Ukrainian Army is the field army of NATO right nowJesus fucking Christ, it's the cope Russian media are feeding the native idiots to prepare them mentally for the eventual announcement that the war ended with a massive fuckup.
>>536883727you should go to Crimea and tell them that they didn't see graphite on the ground, because it's not there
>>536883762Yes, Ukrainian Army is clearly nothing compared to migthy British Army, which has 3 operational brigades. That one brigade they’d be able to deploy to Eastern Europe would certainly give Russians hell!
>>536883727https://www.reuters.com/world/fuel-stations-crimea-run-dry-after-fresh-night-ukrainian-drone-strikes-2026-06-11/
>>536883249There are roughly 4 million Croats in the region these days, maybe 5 million during the population peak. We were at the crossroads between Central European cultures (Hungary, Austria, Holy Roman empire), Mediterranean (Italy) and Islamic world (Turks). What could've such a small nation at an inconvenient geopolitical location do for its independence? Except to make the best of the situation it found itself in? I think we did pretty good all in all, our major issue is shared with all other European nations - demographics. So no, I don't mind being under some other nations, as long as we get to benefit from it as well. If we don't, well... I don't have to say more.
>>536877293>12,010 tanksdo you actually believe this shit? the first info is already bullshit
>>536883762what don't you understand?the West is rotten corrupt and powerless and Russia is advancing steadily to denazify and demilitarize Ukraineat the same time Russia is suffering losses becuse it's facing the the entire might of NATO and USA supporting the nazi Kiev regimethe oxcart is full of shit but also spotlessly clean at the same time how hard is that to understand
>>536872048Russia lost in 2022 when it failed to win politically. For russia to have won ukraine needed to collapse as people which opposite happened. Modern war doesnt work like ww2, to win a war you need to win the population. Russia failed to do this and is now reducing itself to open borders immigration with India and Africa while its political leaders are all passing stronger laws to keep themselves from being hung by public. To claim russia has any hope to win at this point is complete delusion. They cannot even defeat Ukraine standing army nevermind insurgency.
>>536883481You're obviously butthurt at the English, why am I forbidden to dislike Jack London? Because his country bombed ours in 1999? Because they doctored in politics at the time we were led by a pig herder? Such is life, why are you victimising us and the east in general to the point I can't even say what I like about someone else.How am I supposed to fight and feel proud for this country if you cuckolds turned us into jew-tier victims, I every second day I hear about bombings, or jasenovac, and on top of that I live in a shithole where half of morons spit on the street and litter, where doctors expect bribes, you really think I have much to feel pride for? Before mentioning my ancestors who bled for my "ungrateful ass", that makes me feel even worse, I cannot imagine my pain if my father and all my uncles catched a bullet in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo for the local ungrateful niggers and the government that never recognised those veterans.
>>536883830>>536883880Damn, I guess Crimea is lost to Russia. Reuters confirms it. Rostov is next. Then Belgorod. Then Smolensk. Then Putin dies of ass cancer and Russia disintegrates into 150 republics. Ukrainian robotic armies and AI drones march onward! All hail the new superpower!
>>536881429>Russians are TERRIBLE at propagandaWere you born yesterday? The internet in late 00s and 10s was close to become a Red Army Choir. They spent a lot of money on the online propaganda and their shills in Brussels. What Obama and the US Dems were doing at the time also wasn't helping.By the way, the picrel aged so bad that it's now funny for different reasons.
>>536872048>Large part of Western population became functionally mentally challenged The excesses of wealth and modernity will need to be culled
>>536883647>Sprskohrvatski is quite easy to grasp once you figure out the basic phonetic differencesThere is a Pole who is a fluent speaker, posts on /int/ usually, he has some health problems and is pretty funny nutcase and he actually learned to speak it and immersed himself in the local culture (only through the internet) more than most people here lol.
>>536884043>You're obviously butthurt at the EnglishNot really. I dislike their demonic upper classes who are in league with Jews. Ordinary English are nice people. I just find their literature shit.
>>536883914It seems kinda bullshit figure to me too. But it's pretty obvious Russian tank stockpiles are almost completely emptied, while their new tank production is far from being able to keep up with the demand. They can still only afford to overhaul existing examples, and their Armata program is a zombie program.
>>536884051btw, what's your plan in supplying 2 million civilians and 300k soldiers when most of supply trucks are destroyed over course of the summer?
>>536884145Sounds like a based guy. But to be honest there are some Serbs in my city and similarities with this is very cloae to polish
>>536872048An entire wall of text and no mention of how the Russian information space made most of their citizens entirely confident that they would never be put in harms way, yet here we are, with Ukrainian drones reaching deep into their territory. The far-right's inability to conduct analysis without making those they ideologically align with out to be faultless has to be studied. I'm pretty sure it wasn't always like this.
>>536884150>Not really. I dislike their demonic upper classes who are in league with Jews.Please, Israelis were on our side in the 90s, that's well known, and even the current cuckold in chief makes deals with Israelis every other day even though they recognised Kosovo and all, in fact our ties are increasing a lot past few years due to military contracts.Or let me guess this cuckoldry is just temporary and doesn't count.I hate kikes based on their lack of character but historically speaking they've done very minimal damage to Serbia, and in fact aside from Albright who you'll likely mention I'd say they've done no damage at all, sometimes even benefit.
>>536881605I still like the song they made the main theme for Donbas 2013.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQx7RgKt8Y8
>>536884297When things go, you'll be killed almost immediatelyYour physiognomy will be your uniform
>>536884051>All hail the new superpower!That's the thing.Asymmetric warfare makes the weaker state have a disproportionate destructive effect on the bigger power, by using cheap means that are hard to detect. All they need is to slide a few explosive packages into a critical area and boom, a 10 billion bucks bomber is gone, destroyed with a 10k droneTroll warfare
>>536872048In the 1940s Germans had only been living under democratic political conditions for about 20 or 30 years, now they have been under them about a century. Democracy exerts an inexorably decivilizing force upon societies in which it is implemented.
>>536881605Contemporary russia? Nothing but its a dying economy colony so its not surprising.
>>536884353>they've done very minimal damage to SerbiaThey are enemies of humanity. For such a cosmopolitan you sure have a narrow worldview. This is beyond Serbs who are if I’m being honest just a fart, even if I am one.
>>536872048>They lived under ''totalitarian'' regime where sometimes even trying to acquire information could get you in trouble.This holds true in western nations to this day.
>>536881887I guess it sucks to be exploded by rural retards.
>>536884486You support russia you obviously arent against jews. Crimea operation was effectively a jewish money laundering operation between putin and his clique financed by the jewish rotenberg clan.
>>536884427>Asymmetric warfareThis isn’t asymmetric warfare as Russians use same stuff and tactics. One side gains temporary advantage, other side nullifies it. And so on and so on. Retards project imminent collapse. Atrrition goes on. Ukrainians still lose. It’s just how it goes.
>>536875872There's a daily update for thishttps://mod.gov.ua/en/news/total-russian-combat-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-june-11-2026
>>536872048Nobody became retarded, NPCs have always believed blindly what the newspaper, radio or TV told them.
>>536884581Ukraine wont lose russia already missed their only chance and now is trapped is situation worse than even Vietnam war. And that includes Russia leaders who are all in 70s and 80s aka not much time left for their rule. Russia no where near cloae to defeating Ukraine military and is losing to Ukraine insurgents even inside Russia
>>536884353>Israelis were on our side in the 90s, that's well knownfunny story, I once visited Slovenia and my tour guide told me about how they owed a debt to Israel since Israel was on their side during the 90s. I also heard something like that from someone in Croatia.
>>536884573Good thing that Zelensky is not Jewish or that Sikorski isn’t married to a Jewish bitch or your worldview would be very incoherent and solely based on opposition to Russia.
>>536882576They cannibalize rust buckets from tank cemeteries to get spare parts.
>>536884581Well the thing is that Ukraine is funded by the whole Europe, a 28 trillion economy.Russia just can't keep up with the funding necessities anymore. They burnt through most of their cash reserves and have started hiking taxes to keep funding a war effort that gets diminishing returns now
>>536884594LMAO people actually believe this shit ahahahahaha
>>536884594>mod.gov.uakek
>>536877293Ukraine lied about ghost of Kiev they are lying about numbers.
>>536884740Is this 28 trillion economy (lol) also cloning Ukrainians?
>>536872048We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.- William J. Casey, Director of Central Intelligence, 1981-1987
>>536884724You are just deflecting now. If you were against jews there is no way you would support russia especially with putins open borders deal with Africans and India in place. And Russian peoppe cant even protest it without prison as putins wartime laws make it illegal
>>536884581>One side gains temporary advantage, other side nullifies it.Every few months scale, precision and destructive power of Ukrainian drone attacks only increases. More targets, more explosives and distance, it only goes up, never once reduced or "nullified"
>>536872048>after some time they admitted defeat at Stalingradit seems to me as indeed brazen, insane manner of lie
>>536884486>For such a cosmopolitanIf we get a just country and the ruraloids get batoned every day, I would jump into a machinegun for this country. Over the last 35 years, even though I despise communism, Serbia represents MENA more than an European periphery. Okay, might not be MENA but it's certainly not a just, functioning country I can feel pride for.>They are enemies of humanityThey are.>This is beyond Serbs who are if I’m being honest just a fart, even if I am one.It's not that we are a wet fart, it's that we imagine ourselves to be lions, but we have stopped being lions yet we still roar like lions, now we are all masquerading as Serbs of old yet we degraded our country into unrecognisability, yet how many wars for the sake of "nationalism" will we find ourselves in this century?
>>536882638>poverty pornIt gets a bit eerie when you realize that even Bulhakov's "Master and Margarita", a fucking urban fantasy, was essentially a dark comedy shitting on living standards in Moscow.
>>536884751Imagine my shock.
>>536884594The manpower loss is congruent with Russia's own number of men who signed MoD contracts minus the number of men who are still alive in Ukraine. Medvedev brags about how hundreds of thousands of men keep signing contracts each year. This forces one to think - where did the previous hundreds of thousands go? They haven't been demobilised.They're dead.This one ditch in the Pokrovsk area claimed the lives of 28 Russian soldiers. They kept storming it one at a time. No Ukrainian soldier is even visible. Yet they still came and still died amongst their own fallen. Full video here:files.catbox.moe/sxbxfb.mp4There are many such ditches all over Ukraine where Russians march blindly to their deaths.
>>536872048>Skip forward to 2026 - like half of Western world believes insane nonsense like Ukraine ''winning'' the warIt's America, Israel and their European colonies. They don't care about Ukraine, it is a destroyed country with a sealed death sentence, they're being used as proxy to hurt Russia. As long as Russians are hurt fighting their proxy, it's "winning". Ukrainians are fed fairytales about joining the magical EU and free money and BMW cars and other bullshit.
>>536884837Even worse for russia is they have fucked themselves through over centralisation. What happens in 5 years when putins generation begin to die or become to old to function?
>>536884801They don't need to because they can pay a bunch of incels who are good at vidya to pilot drones all day, which is cheap and destroys a lot of valuable troops and logistical assets.Sure Russia can also use drones and they do, but they got fucked by losing Starlink, so this limits their range to just drones that work on fiber that can't fly very far.And Ukraine has the defender's advantage because as Russia advanced they also exposed themselves more.
>>536882689>muslimanski kozojebi >jebu IzraelThe beauty of slavic languages. So different but still so similar when it comes to profanity.
>>536883521>Huta Stalowa Wola probably has already started the production of M903Look, I'm not trying to be antagonistic to you personally, but I sincerely doubt it. Signing a contract doesn't mean anything, obtaining a license to produce a product doesn't mean anything. To produce something at scale, you need factories, floor space, technical know-how, a trained work force, materials, and a supply chain that isn't compromised by relying on external agents. Poland doesn't have that. Europe, by and large, doesn't have that, and can't have that for a long time, even if the current crop of political elites were to stay in power and come up with the political will to convince the population that it is better to produce bombs instead of butter. All of this is happening against the backdrop of general European deindustrialization. Euro industry experts themselves talk about this:https://www.euractiv.com/news/europe-confronts-industrial-reckoning-as-fears-of-deindustrialisation-intensify/Have you ever stopped to wonder why no one in Europe can ever talk about actual, concrete production? It's always "promised" or "projected" to magically arrive at some point in the not too distant future if you just give them another small loan of a few hundred billion Euros.Take this idiot, for example >>536883709 posting propaganda for retards. A headline. The CEO of Rheinmetall's basis for his fantastical claims of surpassing the entire US MIC is based on his company's "projected" capacity. It's complete nonsense designed to sell shares and attract subsidies. Actual analysts like the Kiel institute track deliveries and procurement bottlenecks, real tangible goods that are actually produced, not promises, and they show nothing of the sort.https://www.kielinstitut.de/publications/kiel-military-procurement-tracker-17722
>>536884834How am I deflecting? If you said both sides were Jewish that would at least make some sense. But you’re claiming Russians are ruled by Jews…but you somehow aren’t. Very funny. I suspect now you’re a child-raping demonic kike. That explains it too, other theory being your IQ is very low.
Here is a video of Russians filming themselves walking in that one ditch. Look at all the death and destruction wrought by Ukrainian drones on the Russian army. They put themselves in this mess for no reason.There are thousands of these places in Ukraine where dead Russians are piled up in pits and buildings and dugouts. This is how you get to the number of 1.4M dead invading ziggers.
>>536877293muh kill ratioall that matters how fast are they producing hardwareif western degenerates outproduce them, oinkers will surviveif Russkies outprooduce degenerates, ukraine will fall, just matter when
>>536884852https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdhKTtrCro4Politicians used to respect people more back then. Up until the 1990s. Now Trump can get his dick out on TV and say plebs should suck it and he would still have huge support because people are bots.
>>536884992Again your words mean very little. You obviously support russia and Russian Jewry including support8ng the rotenberg tribe who were behind the 2018 crimea invasion so why even bother at this point
>>536884124I mean ... had it?
>>536884913>where did the previous hundreds of thousands go? They haven't been demobilised.The fuck do you mean by demobilised? They aren't mobilized. Their contract ends, they either renew it or go home. A friend's cousin signed up because he was a useless NEET and wanted money, did six months, returned home, renewed for another six months, and finished again.
Another video of a pile of dead Russian soldiers. This time not involving that ditch, somewhere else near Pokrovsk. Russians go to attack and simply die en masse. Piles of Russian corpses litter the fields of eastern Ukraine.
>>536885087The partial mobilization of reservists which numbered up to 200-300k. They are still in Ukraine, those that are not dead/wounded at least. Contractors come and go, but the partially mobilized from 2022 never got permission to leave. I'd wager those that survived up to now are instructors because neither army is stupid enough to waste very experienced troops on exposing positions for drones and artillery.
>>536872372The governments and news agencies don't give a shit. Its pretty common knowledge that if you're smart enough and care enough to be informed than you're a bitch ass nigger who won't do shit.
>>536885107I genuinely do not see how russia recovers from this but I also don't think putin and ppl who started it care. They passed so many new laws in russia since 2022 you cant disagree with anything a politician says without risking prison and putin can always just retire to China and let whatever is left of russia society out for the crows
>>536885226That's true, but he wasn't talking about called up reservists that were professional soldiers, but people that sign contracts, those rotate all the time
>>536884962even Romanians whose language isn't slavic know of pizda pizda rules the world pizda is life pizda is love
Another pile of dead Russian soldiers, this time near Myrnohrad which is a town next to Pokrovsk. Russia lost this war the moment they failed to seize Kyiv. They're now stuck in the fields of Donbas and shredding the Russian demographic pyramid.
>>536885349It might be first time invading force is getting bombed by insurgents in their own country without even defeating main army of country they attacked. Eg the viet cong was not blowing up american factories and electrical grid which is now daily reality inside russia
>>536872048NATO is an extremely fragile “alliance“.It isn’t even an alliance. It’s just US occupation in the EU. The US justifies it by pretending to protect the EU after decades of antagonizing and demonizing Russia. The moment it admits even one inch of weakness this so called “alliance” is gone.NYC could get nuked, they still will say they’re winning.
I'm in Kyiv on holiday right now (Scottish) and russian shills have been lying like fuck for years.This city is just getting on with it. Very little damage, no shortages. No jeets, women still here, men still everywhere, no vans prowling. Russia lost. Badly.
>>536885347>even Romanians whose language isn't slavic know of pizdaHalf of their vocab used to be Slavic and after a process of latinisation, a quarter now. Some of their nationalists get pissy about this for no reason, like they will turn into Slavs because someone told them they use a lot of Slavic words. Hungarian language also uses a ton of Slavic words and also loan words for curses, but less people know this since Hungarian is autistic as fuck.Slavic languages are really vulgar but Serbs are the most vulgar, my late grandpa was a lovely guy but when he got angry he'd string various non-repeating curses for 10 minutes. Other people cannot uniquely curse for several minutes straight.
>>536882818>Do you guys have some good literature?A handful of boomers who started their careers with short stories for underground sci- fi magazines in late 80s were our last spark of creativity in the popculture.
There are many OSINT sources that document and catalogue the vast quantity of dead Russian soldiers who have been killed by the AFU. Mediazona, Poteru, Gorushko and others have tallied the hundreds of thousands of dead Russian soldiers who died in Ukraine and have had their deaths announced online.Note, what they count doesn't overlap that well. Further, they can only count what is publicly available on social media and online obituaries. They miss the vast majority of dead Russian soldiers whose deaths remain private according to the wishes of their families.https://200.zona.media/
>>536885580https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czes%C5%82aw_Mi%C5%82oszI have read a book from this guy, though it was such a chore, I don't read political literature. Turns out he wasn't a jew like I thought.
>>536882818Surprisingly very little Polish literature was ever translated into English, or were poorly translated. I suppose you could read Lalka
>>536885566that art style tho >soviet brutalism with Ukrainian characteristics if you know what I mean
>>536885640>trust me bro, those additional 1 150 000 people >>536877293 ? They are missing from obituaries or due to the wishes of the families.
>>536885537>NATO is an extremely fragile “alliance“.yes, two weeks to complete chaos and dissolution >The moment it admits even one inch of weakness this so called “alliance” is gone.yes just you wait two weeks meanwhile it's day 1500 of the 3-day special operation to put down a rebel provincebut the rebels are now bombing the empire's oil infrastructure who's fragile now?
Both Russians and Ukrainians are nothing but chunks of meat to their corrupt governments. Do you think the U.S. cares about Ukrainians? The U.S. military-industrial complex is just making money by selling conventional weapons.
>>536872048>that there's chance to lose.German was trying to avoid war and was pretty clear that this was a life and death struggle for the future. If anything, the totality of the struggle may have been an exaggeration. But, quick question, were you reading the letters of german men or women?If we were to assume that /pol/fags are roughly about as intelligent and psychologically quite similar to the hardcore Nazi Germans and Fascists of the time, then /pol/ are probably behaving kind of like what you'd expect given the technology they have. I don't think homos on /pol/etc quite understand the extent to which the basic ass shit they do is actually called "intelligence operations" by certain professions, and that these skills and habits are quite difficult to train. These were also skills that the elites were not banking on the "regular inferior pureblooded pagan hero morality northern peoples" (Kalergi reference to his master-race of the future who were to be men of letters from the "womb" of jews).The people you are describing as being stupid may just be stupid people who would always have been stupid people. >Their government respected them enough to not try bullshit propaganda,Nazi propaganda style can be summed up as "the big truth" or "complex truth made simple and fun".Their stylistic emphasis was on the lame pointlessness of lying and falsehood. >Ukraine ''winning'' the war.NeoCons and Leftists neurologically don't know the difference between objective reality and preference. This is why they talk about bias as a thing that can't be switched off, despite the fact that smart people switch their biases off quite frequently, calling it "professionalism" or "competition" or "science". This is just a skill that some people don't have.Other's have it so much that they can look into the data abyss and get genuinely hurt. >alcoholics vs potheads meme
>>536885532Yep. The Ukrainian MoD doesn't even count all the damage that Ukrainian long range sanctions do to Russia. They only bother to count losses of the Russian MoD, rather than the tax losses of the Russian Ministry of Finance.Russia has opened up their country for daily and nightly bombings by the Ukrainian drone forces. These losses will continue until the Russian government sues for peace and withdraws their invasion and occupation force.
>>536885575one thing I have to admit, Polish cursing is very boring and repetitive I had a russian speaking gf and when she got angry with me her cursing was almost poetic
>>536885580>A handful of boomers who started their careers with short stories for underground sci- fi magazines in late 80sSapkowski and Dukaj right?
A classic image showing the huge losses of the Russian armed forces. If anything, maybe the Ukrainian Ministry of Defence is undercounting Russian losses. The scale of death inflicted on Russia is simply astonishing.
>>536885736Aye. The soviets made movement the forefront of their stylised artforms.The Ukrainians gave it depth.
>>536885932It's nothing to be proud of, I am just saying how it is, Serbs are vulgar people, it's completely acceptable to say fuck your mother here to someone else, obviously no one means it seriously unless you tone it that way but it speaks volumes about the rurality and backwardness of this country, it wasn't always like this, it's the rural invasions of the past 80 years that did it. There's nothing worse than a peasant.
>>536875872Where did you go? You don't like seeing nor talking about Russia's losses? Why is that nigger?You can say it's all worth it for some intangible prize of capturing the village of Stinky. But you cannot deny that Russia's army is a battered and broken husk of its initial strength and Ukraine is slaughtering one thousand of them daily.
>>536884988>To produce something at scale, you need factories, floor space, technical know-how, a trained work force, materials, and a supply chain that isn't compromised by relying on external agents. This nigga thinks Huta Stalowa Wola is a barn in the middle of a potato field.
>>536886262They just go start a new thread when faced with evidence. It's the fsb. It's an oxcart of shit. They don't care if you believe them. Some jeet or African will. It's what they do.
>>536885932Expletives here are so diverse and easy to create that it hurts just how much swearing people use in their everyday vocabulary. It's tacky and uncomfortable to hear. I myself obviously also swear, but I managed to "train" myself to almost exclusively use English swear words. I hurt myself - fuck. Something bad happens - son of a bitch. Someone fucks something up - you son of a bitch. I pretty much used them as loanwords, I don't see English expletives nearly as bad as Serbian/Croatian, which can get very brutal. >>536885860Perhaps by the government, but I'm 100% sure Ukrainian command and commissioned officers cares more about their subordinates than Russians do.
Russian soldiers are sent in meatwaves to assault the smallest hamlets nobody has ever heard of and no one even lives in. They are killed without ever even seeing a Ukrainian. They lose their lives before a Ukrainian soldier has the chance to even swear at them for being invading niggers.
>>536886078>fuck your motherahh yes, yebem ti mayku there were some Serbs in the online games I played lol that's one thing Polish swearing lacks we don't really use that phrase and we don't have a word for motherfucker either only a calque like matkojebca which isn't a real word and everyone recognizes it as an ironic translation from English
Remember when the Ukrainian counteroffensive was actually a massive counterbattery mission that was designed to bait all the Russian artillery out and then they would advance unopposed after they destroyed it all?Three fucking years ago. Never really did amount to shit either, did it? They're literally doing the same shill tactic as last time, posting a few videos of some trucks getting blown up, extrapolating it across the entire front, and making up some statistics about how it's totally a critical collapse now. Heard it before. Shills are tired.
>>536886521They don't even get to meatwaves anymore. They get hit 75km from the front. Every single day.
>>536872048>read half the post>it's Zigger mental diarrheaIs Crimea being out of fuel winning, you retarded little fucking monkey? You third word lactose intolerant fucking scum? You vestigial genetic refuse? Is it? Is running out of fuel how you win wars? Is sending elderly alcoholics to trench lines through open fields so Ukrainian FPVs can webmify then winning?
>>536886078I do not believe that there is a more vulgar people or a more vulgar language. Your language was probably not that vulgar from the beginning. It likely changed that way due to the scars of war and economic hardship. Refugees who have defected from North Korea to South Korea always tell us that South Koreans speak and act excessively politely compared to North Koreans. They also say that North Koreans speak excessively roughly and act without fear. However, I do not think they were like that from the start. In the 1990s, millions died in North Korea due to crop failures and infectious diseases. It was said that at that time, there was so little food and such destitution that people could not even hold proper funerals, so they lived among the dead. Economic deprivation and hardship drive people to the extreme.
>>536886616>Three fucking years ago.Ukraine has moved on pidor.You know it.I know it. You know I know it. You lost.
>>536886509Sad but true. Well the amount of video evidence showing Russia's losses is freely available for all to see. Less gory versions of these videos are viewable on Madyar's Youtube channel.
>>536885736It's literally a Soviet statue, they just changed the emblem. Honestly, the perfect metaphor for Ukraine.
>>536886379It might as well beGermany is the industrial heart of Europe, even in its anemic state today and even they can't produce weapons at scale
>>536872785We're talking about the Nazis here. Aka the most correct people ever.>>536872372>''AI'' will probably make this shit even worse as they will become even dumber and more inept.Anon, have you ever looked into who or what kinds of things learning AI agrees with? or the kinds of people who are friendly to AI?Or the kinds of people AI seems to prefer?It's... interesting.
>>536886770The daily harvest is unheard of in warfare. Ukraine is dismantling Russia from the ground up. It's actually getting quite painful to watch. Russia is defenceless and taking hits they can't recover from in a century.
>>536886830>inoffensive sovietslop but Ukraine appropriated it to display national symbolsWhat is wrong with this?
>>536886830This is a better emblem for Ukraine.,.Behind it is their wrecked equipment. Want to see?
>>536873088A couple square miles of farmland that they can't farm because the farmers have been conscripted and their tractors are getting struck by drones.
>>536886514You sound like a faggot.
>>536886765It's true. Ukraine advanced backwards from their 2023 gains and invented a new cope strategy that makes so little sense you don't even bother rationalizing it or explaining it. Just like the epic Kursk feint that was to make Russia concede in negotiations but never materialized. But it's really fucking funny how the shill under a Ukrainian flag is an actual fucking tourist.
>>536875872Literally everything you brown raperat.
>>536886974>the better emblem for Ukraine is written in EnglishYou know, I don't disagree.
>>536887037>that was to make Russia concede in negotiationsNo. It was to stop America trying to end the war. Total zigger death isn't Americas say.Ukraine played a blinder in Kursk. Don't you ever fucking forget that you pussy little never do well.
>>536886830>It's literally a Soviet statue, they just changed the emblemit's often the case when colonies shake off the yoke of an empire that they keep the language, the art style and even the dress code no word of Ukrainians dumping vodka into the sea in protest against intolerable acts, but history never repeats itself 1:1
>>536877132>cause same people who claim Ukraine is winning now also claim USA won in Iranactually, my disdain for ziggers is only matched by my loathing for miggers - both are totally fucking shit at war, both are constantly claiming victory, and both have a dedicated crew of faggy propagandists that spray dogshit all over 24/7. You are one of these btw.
>>536887168It's tragic, really
>>536886727What you say is true, but we are not the only people to experience hardship, and me and my generation and the later ones grew up after all wars, obviously they still affect your parents and everybody else and they do transfer that bitterness and hatred onto other people, but it is simply in no ways an excuse for MAJORITY of people to act like that. My friends in primary and high school obsessed over shoes like ghetto niggers. The obsession over brands appeared because in the 90s the imports were super expensive and nice clothes were a status symbol, and it continues as heritage today and Balkanoids are very insecure about designer clothes and all while westerners pretty much don't care (it's ironic because Balkanoids, looking at other, richer people will say that they are too materialistic). But funniest thing is that people can usually afford such stuff nowadays so you just had kids brag about what almost everyone can have.Your comparison makes sense, but where does it stop, we could have grown out of some bad stuff by now but we really didn't, and in some ways we entrenched ourselves deeper like degenerate music and TV shows full of vulgarity and crime. Regardless, it's very cool I can talk about this stuff with a Korean of all people in the world, internet is cool. I always wished to look into North Korea defector stories but I can't look into it honestly because no matter how bad North Korea is, I can't know what is true or not.
>>536873088Crimea and those two regions? what's that like 10M people?
>>536887173>Ukraine sacrificed its men and equipment so big daddy America would stop negotiating for them>never mind that Ukraine is a sovereign nation and has already negotiated shit itselfMake it make sense, dumbass. Why wouldn't they just say no? Why sacrifice some of their most elite formations?
Lol noob. It's called a reverse gym probability. Somebody posting about the war is likely to be a shill. Most people aren't that dumb.
>>536887290Around 8 million if you count the entire Donbass
>>536887287>and it continues as heritage today and Balkanoids are very insecure about designer clothes when the 90s in your head never end sad
>>536883528>muh loss of populationRetard no check the increase on population from captured territory
>>536887302Ukraine hasn't sacrificed anything. Russia has spent it's entire soviet stockpile, it's economy, it's oil industry, it's newest generation of men....Ukraine is just sitting back. Killing everything you send.While bombing your rear. While killing your supplies. You lost nigger. You lost hard.
>>536884210>But it's pretty obvious Russian tank stockpiles are almost completely emptiedobvious how?Armata is scraped cos they realized western style heavy tanks in the drone age is retarded
>>536886514I believe the original sin naturally lies with Russia and Putin, but I also think the Ukrainian government is largely at fault for causing a situation of all-out war. Even the US, the superpower, manages risks to avoid a direct war with China. Why did the Ukrainian government fail to manage any risks leading up to Putin's invasion of Ukraine? It is the most vulnerable people who die in war. The Ukrainian government, having refused negotiations, had to pay a tremendous price.
>>536887462Damn, shill got broken. Since you're in Ukraine on tourism, go to the war graves and tell those who were killed in Kursk for a small grocery store why they died. What the tactical advantage of taking a small grocery store was. When Ukraine's strategy is actually just to "sit back".
>>536884224>when most of supply trucks are destroyedRetardanon I think they have more than 14 trucks, not much more but only a few 100k more
>>536887560>obvious how?Through satellite imagery. It's well documented. Are you a Chang or a jeet?You sure as fuck aren't Australian.
>>536887415Nobody is even obsessed with the war angles here, all of the songs you listened to about remove kebab are almost exclusively foreign topic, Serbs in Serbia are just obsessed with macho image, crime and status symbols, but they will still preach muh orthodoxy and ramble about muh Kosovo, to a healthy soul it feels like torture and over time I developed a habit to look down on others. Because many people who share the same thoughts on this are leftist cucks. Being a third positionist is pain everywhere.
>>536887605I've been to the graves. They died defending their families and their homelands against russian aggression Slawa Ukraine. Glory to the heroes. Now what did the Russians die for dickhead?
>>536884594nice work posting your IQ
>>536886009Ackshually yes but no. I will write some names, so zoomers will learn something new.Sapkowski- fantasy. A germanophile and militant atheist boomer, but I grudgingly admit he managed to pull it off with his Witcher saga.Zajdel- science fiction. Predicted a modern day dystopia with smartphones, surveillance and digital currencies.Dukaj- fantasy and science fiction. A lot of weird shit here. Ziemkiewicz- political fiction. In 90s he predicted modern day radical islamization and niggerization of western Europe, murders and riots included, and a war between Russia and Ukraine resembling what we see today, ie infantry destroying tanks in large numbers with some kind of next generation weaponry.Ziemiański, Pilipiuk, Wolski- urban fantasy and pulp fictionWe used to have a large science fiction scene in communist Poland and some really interesting titles, but it's pointless to even name them. The books haven't been published since 50 years.Also fuck Lem. Lem is overrated and the only reason for his promotion was the fact he was a kike.
>>536887605>Oh no, some of us might die. Better surrender to Russia today!anxious pidor noises are music to my ears
>>536887207Yes but Ukraine has a funny relationship with its Soviet and Russian past. That statue is specifically Soviet, it's has a twin in Russia, it's dedicated to the Soviet victory in WWII. It actually doesn't make any sense to change the heraldry, but people have weird relationships with inanimate statues. Like it wouldn't make any sense to take a Confederate statue and put the stars and stripes on it.
>>536887741Retarded, if Ukrainians chose not to fight Russians what would they have lost? what would be different for the average Ukrainian of they didn't fight?
>>536887033Even fags and weaklings swear a ton. I'm just annoyed at how widespread it is. Especially in schools and universities by the students during their break. It's sad to hear literal 10y olds swearing like drunks. It shows they're not being raised well at all.
>>536887775>We used to have a large science fiction scene in communist PolandWas it because it was the least censored? That's why I like Russian/Soviet scifi lit. It's hilarious. They all write like Strelkov in order to not get the boot, though most of it was banned anyways.
>>536887860I thought Croats don't curse as much, was I lied to?
>>536887738no I meant the economic aspects of the 90s>muh Levi's, muh Nike's, muh Reebok's>I can't be seen riding the bicycle, that's what poor people do >etc
>>536886727>I do not believe that there is a more vulgar people or a more vulgar language.We have A LOT of unique vulgar words though. 200 years ago some of them weren't even considered a profanity, but things change in unpredictable ways.
>>536887856>what would be different for the average Ukrainian of they didn't fight?They would no longer be free people.That's it. That's all if takes.
>>536887741>They died defending their families and their homelands...in Kursk for the strategic objective of capturing a grocery store and apparently stopping America from negotiating for their own countryLike I said, broken.>>536887776I don't even know how you retards can still defend the Kursk offensive when it amounted to absolutely fucking nothing. Just take a second to admit Ukraine can make dumb fucking decisions, it's really not that hard. I'll be the first fucking person to tell you America blundered in Iran.
>>536885736I can appreciate a well designed brutalism. Even Polish socrealism produced a few good things.
>>536887775Ziemkiewicz and Lem are (were) kikes>Ziemiański, PilipiukI'm old now and I stopped consuming fiction about 20 years ago, I have no idea who these guys are >Wolski Marcin?
>>536888142>I don't even know how you retards can still defend the Kursk offensiveIt put trump back in his box. How's that 24hr end to the war coming on?Faggot.
>>536885932Skill issue.
Show russian divorce rates.Show russian abortion rates.Show russian church attendees.Show russian suicides.Show russian domestic violence ratesShow russian trans and gay rates.Show russian aids rates.Show Russia faggot or stfu.
>>536888218>you died so that Ukraine could prove that Trump was talking out of his ass (again)fucking lmao. shill copes are incredible.
>>536888234>kurwa pierdolę kurwa pierdolona w dupę jebana kurwa jebana pierdolona kurwa chuj kurwa pierdolona chuj so very rich
>>536877293Lost Armenia too. They used to have large influence in that region.
>>536888305>you diedI'm on holiday in Kyiv. I didn't die. It's lovely here btw. Proper nice. You lost.
>>536872048Probably won't read the thread, but my dad is a prime example of being mindfucked so severely by propaganda you can't see obvious reality, He is admittedly a bit of a retard, but any objective and reasonable discussions with him is simply impossible.I think a lot of people have chosen to live in their desired fantasyland instead of simply facing reality. Most people want to be told what to think, not actually think for themselves. They've picked their villains, whether that be Trump, Putin, Zelensky, Khomeini or so on and simply consume propaganda about it.Regarding the ukie war, i'm not completely updated, but that's mostly simply because i don't care. From what i know i can at least say that it seems like nothing has happened and nothing will happen. The front's been essentially frozen for the last 3 years and i've heard nothing but "3 more weeks" from both sides for years now. A bit same with the Iranian stuff. Saying Trump in any way has had a complete and utter victory is utter cope, but also saying that the Iranians have come out of this completely unscathed is also cope. Either way, i think we all know it was israel who wanted the war and would've done so no matter who'd been pres.
>>536888433Csto doesn't exist anymore. Even Iran doesn't want Russia. China isn't buying their oil... Syria kicked them out.,They've only got Africa left.
>>536887287Although everyone keeps quiet about it, spies dispatched by South Korean intelligence agencies and special forces live in North Korea posing as North Koreans born abroad. They typically assume the identity of North Koreans born in Russia or Japan. Due to these human intelligence sources, South Korea's intelligence regarding North Korea is the most accurate in the world. Consequently, even U.S. intelligence agencies, such as the CIA, collect information on North Korea from South Korean intelligence agencies. However, among those who have defected from North Korea to South Korea, there are quite a few who excessively exaggerate internal affairs. Generally, credible South Korean media outlets report by cross-checking information from South Korean intelligence agencies, data provided by defectors, and intelligence flowing from ethnic Korean autonomous regions along the China-North Korea border.
>>536886834German military industry was cooled down over the last 2 decades and the army was severely underfunded. We had an opposite trend since 2015.
>>536887738>Being a third positionist is pain everywherecan at least attest to that.
>>536873088It's more what the Separatists got from it. They formally became part of Russia and got the Russian military directly in to help them. Ukraine's direct help is extensive, but covert. West Ukraine never got into the EU and never got into NATO. The men got banned from leaving and press ganged into an offensive against what is officially Russia. The status of the special military operation thus reduces West ukraine to more of a gang or "strange situation" and not a formal government. The West also don't treat the Ukrainians as a formal government nor even a real people, tragically. The UK and EU got a step closer to their full blown war with Russia, and really, understanding the globalist agenda and the arab spring and the hows and whys of the revolution of dignity etc, is the real question to ask as Russia clearly never wanted this war front in a place of sentimental importance to the Russian Slavs.
>>536888472>simply because i don't careyes we know, Bjorn you're comfortably far enough to not care congratulations, geography makes you a winner though no accomplishment of your own now go, eat your rotten fish that's been sitting in the ground for 6 months
>>536887587It's their own cooking. Sucks that it's happening but I think both populations are willing to fight for whatever the outcome it might be, otherwise they wouldn't fight, directly as soldiers or indirectly. Though I wouldn't use USA and China as a comparable example, since they're quite far apart, depend heavily on each other economically, and both sides don't seem to be too stupid to pick a fight where they might loose too much, even with Trump and Jewish lobby. Though you're in Korea so you most probably have a much better understanding of Chinese culture and history than I do.>>536887856They're both fighting, for whatever reason it may be, they both think something better will come out of this war if they win. For them personally and/or nation or country.>>536887943A LOT. Especially those from Hercegovina and Zagorje. Though I don't know how they compare to Serbs. Don't really have real world experience except for few Serbs I know or heard speaking.
Russia isn't even a regional power any more. It's over. Go home. You lost.
>>536888613Nopeople do what they are told, there is no thought or deliberation to it, state says war, and sheep say bahhh
>>536888440Yes we know you're a shill and haven't the slightest care about the soldiers dying. It's good to see you acknowledge that outright.
>>536877755Zigger or western larper (or third world shitskin)?
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>>536888609don't know if you know this, but we're also bordering russia. I constantly hear fear propaganda every time i turn on state news and after a while of constant "WE'RE GONNA BE AT WAR IN 2 WEEKS!!!!!" i simply got tired. The situation has not developed so that an enlargement of the war is possible, neither that i should care if that happens as i'm not that interested in defending a bureaucracy that despises me.Also, you can't have>russia is a big scary bear that's gonna declare war on the whole world any minute now!and>russia is so pathetic that they can't even take ukraine!at the same time, you have to pick one. Either they're a real threat that will conquer ukraine, or they're dumb and useless and not a threat at all.
>>536888693Go boil your head. I'm ten times the man you'll ever be.
>>536888569You have a problem of high civilization, we have a problem of lack of civilization, either way, neither one of us is satisfied lol. The problem is that this dissatisfaction will lead a man to hedonism, only worrying about his own ass, which is very unhealthy mindset, so I learned to cope by clinging to principles, reading inspirational history and trying to hone more virtue into myself. Which made me more of a cosmopolitan than a nationalist like the guy accused me of earlier, but there's nothing to be a nationalist for right now.>>536888542Very, very interesting.
>>536876821This is simply false. A few years ago the Russian Navy actually sailed through the English channel while telling the UK to stop firing long range missiles into Russia. The top story at the time was Kier Starmer's wardrobe. For researchers and info specialists, who read news articles very very differently to regular people, this was a huge issue.The consistent situation analysis is that Russia is very dangerous, and if it wasn't dangerous, it would be getting broken up. So much ground was lost when Brexit happened and Trump got elected. If the four years of Biden seemed like a strange mad series of military rushes, it's because they had four years of progress lost.It's worth considering that King Charles is a Romenov.
Russia lost. Anyone who thinks otherwise is on their payroll or a complete fucking retard.It's that simple.
>>536888472It was funny when it was Russia saying they were winning for 3 years. Now it's Ukraine telling us they've been winning for six and it's just as funny. And both sides count their territorial gains in the low hundreds of KM. And both sides brag about taking tiny ass villages no ones heard of. And both sides say the other is losing because they have to brag about taking tiny ass villages no ones heard of. And both sides say the other is out of tanks because they don't see them on the battlefield. And both sides are riding into battle on ATVs and civilian cars. And they're both using the exact same strategy of attritioning the other until the front collapses in the nebulous future + 2 weeks.This is the first war that will have two winners and two losers simultaneously. Slav ingenuity at work I suppose.
>>536888872>we're also bordering russiayes lol in the useless inhospitable eternal winter wastelands no pidor is coming for your fjords that way
>>536888912Go enlist with Ukraine then. I'm sure they'd love such a patriotic soldier. You'll be "sitting back" I hear.
>>536877442You just called Ukrainians subhumans. >>536877465The USA hasn't sopped supporting Ukraine and the main support is coming from the UK and EU.A helpful analysis tip for geopolitics is to understand that the"American deep state" is globalism and it is not based exclusively in the USA. Israel is obviously one part of it, but the EU and UK are part of it too and these guys wrote the book and have continued to be at the cutting edge of all the intelligence bs operations the USA is famous for due to Epstein etc.
>>536889099No pidors are coming anywhere. They've got nothing left but meat. Just drone fodder now.
>>536889132Go join the Russian armed forces. I'd love to see your fat arse on a drone cam. I'd take bets on how far the locals were gathering soap materials.
Russia lost. There's no denying it now.Only shills.
>>536889296Lay off the east Slavic gold digger pussy. Both Ukraine and Russia lost, they just don't know it yet. Wait a few years to a decade or two to see why I said that.
>>536889253I mean the americans pay for your war you have no right to tell him anything
>>536889382They don't know about the infinite influx of niggers, indians and other baboons that comes next. They will experience fuxation thanks to their war and killing themselves below demographic fertility replacement levels. The mutt face will be their new flags as well.
>>536872048You raise a very good point. Imo Russia has already destroyed Ukraine for good (22 million population, half of them being pensioners). Now they should focus on ending the hot war before the AI takeover and invest massively to prop up their birth rates
>>536888613Based on the books I have read and the opinions of experts, the U.S. government was excessively arrogant toward China and knew nothing about the Chinese people. Pathetically, the U.S. believed that China’s entry into the WTO would actually be a great opportunity for American global corporations and harbored a vague expectation that China would become a sane country that adheres to global standards. The U.S. held a pathetic optimism that China would abandon communism once it tasted the fruits of capitalism. And now, it is too late for the U.S. to regret it. The Chinese are born totalitarians. They remain loyal to China even if it means living like slaves, like cattles. They are not people for whom individual freedom is paramount, unlike Americans.
>>536889589Nothing is more humiliating than dying for a modern nation "state", especially by a 200$ FPV drone. At least in the older times your proficiency in weapons and athletics actually mattered, now you're just meat and can get wiped out not only by snipers, small arms, artillery of all sorts, aviation bombs, but also by swarms of drones, and your family is not even insured forever and neither is your country's demographics, all the while women and children are freely allowed to leave the country.Worst deal ever, fast forward a few decades and there will be nasty, nasty rebellions because masses are slow to figure out they are being cheated.
>>536889253America literally funds your fucking mega faggot war. He's right, shut the fuck up and go enlist if you're so fucking proud to die for a dead western nation that cares more about preserving the rights of faggots and child rapists over taking care of it's population.It literally doesn't matter who wins this war, millions of whites are in the ground and the races is further weakened. Literally this entire thread is mind raped kike slaves screaming at other mind raped kike slaves as niggers and, chinks and jeets surrond us and Kikes continue to pull the strings of our nations.
>>536887892Science fiction wasn't treated as a serious literature. Lem admitted that writing "silly" science fiction was a torturous experience for him, even though the state provided him western popular science magazines and translations, completely unavailable for the population at the time.Also clerks working at the censorship office were too dumb to really analyze the content.
>>536889800Meh, wars have always been shitty. Russia lost more people in Stalingrad than it did in the past 4 years. Thing is, as you say, societies in the past had high birth rates and could recover in a few generations. Modern forecasts are grim for anyone besides kikes and niggers, white nations should invest massively to prop op their birth rates
>>536877701>Finland and sweden joined NATOConsider that a second. Also consider how the Finnish and Swedish feel about it.> tens of thousands of Russian young men are dead,Are you kidding anon?Millions have died, and press-gang and draft warred Ukrainians (who are Russian Slavs) dying cannot be considered a win for Russia either.We're looking at a globalist genocide of Whites in one of the major heartlands of the Aryans. It's enormously bad and when you look into the trafficking going on (children smuggled to Israel etc) it's like... bad. It's also extremely bad for White Nationalists as the civil war itself was being viewed as a Spanish civil war style situation that could be used as a training ground and organisational up for Right Sector type coups in other White countries.Western support was taken seriously enough that guys were being intercepted on their way to Ukraine to fight for one side or another. The bulk of White Nationalists etc in the West viewed this as too dangerously close to "brothers war" territory, and a dangerous gambit that ran the risk of armed WNs being turned into a White Isis. In the event of some nationalist victory, would it be surprising for full nato deployment to move in to "counter the Nazi threat". We now have a country that has been effectively enslaved and pressed into military service for anti-White psychopaths and paedophiles. So this shit is upsetting for everyone. It's also a very grim warning that the UK, EU, etc, are absolutely prepared to attempt a draft war if they can manage it. They have that kind of violent confidence. Prior to this, it was assumed this would never happen again.It's also quite worrying that the only people who seem to be shilling the war, are people outside of Ukraine and who are paedophiles.You have to understand what it was like from the perspective of guys who were full blown right wing pro-Whites at the time of the civil war and this sense of "this could be the big chance"
>>536889950>white nations should invest massively to prop op their birth rateswhy did people have more kids when life was materially objectively shittier than today?the problem isn't welfare, it's women's rights
>>536889950I wasn't talking about Stalingrad, it's not like your personal proficiency mattered in WWII, it mattered before the muskets were introduced.Dying in wars always sucked, but as I said things used to be different, the conciousness of the average individual used to be a lot of the times higher than it is now. Now plebians are free for the pickings by the elites that hold too much power.
>>536888933https://youtu.be/82Fib2bmPkU?si=utBSSm783R7U9zWVIf you are curious about South Korean spies in North Korea, watch this movie. It is based on a true story.
>>536890104>the problem isn't welfare, it's women's rightsat least this slav gets it.
>>536888213>Marcin?One of fathers of Polish fantasy. The old lot of authors making their debut in "Fantastyka", then getting published by "SuperNova".
>>536890133Will do, thanks and checked.>>536890104Like you would run around your entire life for 8 kids man, even if your wife didn't outright decline it. Birthrates were always the highest among the uneducated and the rural, because there was not that much to do, every fun activity was communal and real-life based and kids could help you at your home much earlier than now, they were also an asset. It's true that changing a few things about society would increase birthrates but we will likely never see the old birthrates ever again. You can't really force people to have children.
>>536888326Skill issue confirmed.
>>536890290Not to mention contraceptives weren't available.
>>536890104Taking them away is too hard, me thinks. Imo, since men are expected to give their lives to the state, women should also be expected to produce life to the state. Mandatory births at the age of 20, 23, and 26 would save our societies. Yes, there would be lots of shitty families and neglected children, but the alternative is literally society collapse This thread is interesting, does anyone want to bake a follow up?
>>536890264damn u old probably as old as me
>>536890319>mandatory birthsYou'd get lynched in a week.
>>536890290>You can't really force people to have children.not until everything collapses and you need many hands to plow the field again
>>536890374Was Zelensky killed by its own people after mandatory conscription?
>>536890319>but the alternative is literally society collapseyes industrial society will have to collapse before birthrates increasemight be too late to stay white but hey, not my problem women were given voting rights 100+ years ago mistakes were made
>>536890411Just steal other people's children, worked for NS Germany and works for le monke.>>536890438Mandatory conscription is an old concept, mandatory births do not exist.
>>536889060>This is the first war that will have two winners and two losers simultaneouslyIt's the same logic as with Iran vs the US.One side is losing by not winning, second side is winning by not losing.
>>536890084Finally somebody with an IQ above room temperature.
>>536889800>At least in the older times your proficiency in weapons and athletics actually matteredIn ye olde times you would be likely a peasant armed with a pike, acting as a meat shield between archers and the charge of enemy cavalry, while the war was not even a war but a petty conflict between two feudal lords.War always sucks for the cannon fodder.
