Catholicism would be cool except for the faggot human based power hierarchy.Catholic church took 1 passage from the bible and turned it into a multi-billion dollar power structure.>no actually you should have open bordersno wonder the American Protestants didnt want them coming in
>>536879295see >>536874970>>536875006>>536875048
You'll wonder still.
>>536879295Catholicism is okay, but Orthodoxy is better.
>>536879295>Catholic church took 1 passage from the bible and turned it into a multi-billion dollar power structure.So what are you implying here? Power structures or profit or just one and you prefer a bunch of protestant scams? If Jesus was a Jew he'd be trying to profitmaxx as well
>>536879807is french your first language or hindi
>>536879377i dont care if Catholics have a Pope I care they are giving him Authority and pretending he is the hand of God or whatever
>>536879295The Hebrew bible was plenty good enough as it was with regards to treating foreigners (it still allows you to genocide in certian contexts).Jesus was obviously a FAGGOT you retards. There was no need for all this faggot shit about race mixing, forgiving adulterous women, making sex sinful and harder for men to get laid.
>>536879982>and pretending he is the hand of God or whateverlearn before you speak
>>536880041we're not running Nations based on Bible verses
>>536879295You should have become our colony and revolution shouldn't have hapoened bad guys won. Protestantism is masonic heresy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_NoirYou made your bed.
>>536880130might want to take some meds or touch grass
I can't wait for chain saw time. Guys never break the law. Always act legally and do not murder or you will go to hell.
>>536879295the symbols, the idols, the pine cone, the dagon hat, the effort to keep the Bible accessible to only the clergy, the rituals not practiced by Jesus Christ, the heresies by the various popes and even the very office of the pope. too easy, i'm bored. hmm...nah, not cool at all
>>536880289>expulsion of jewd in France's coloniesYou chosed the bad guys.
>>536879295>Catholicism would be cool except for [its main, ultimate, infallible authority]What kind of a critique is that?
>>536880583are you Catholic?
>>536879295I feel the same way. The Protestant churches have similar issues. I know a lot of based and righteous Catholics, just as many Protestants, there are righteous priests and pastors but the churches themselves are a MLM shecklescheme that only attract the worst people. The only church I've encountered that seems righteous is that of the Orthodox because it's purpose seems to be wholly dedicated to preserving the liturgy and Eucharist, rather than some kind of crypto-Jewish power scheme. I don't think theological liberalism will have a foothold in Christianity once the Boomers are gone.
>>536879295You're a brain damaged groyper who worships jews and practice a philosemitic religion. Your reddit spacing, in an attempt to make your post more substantial, is the equivalent of diluting water with water. Go and wash and kiss nigger feet at your local park like your savior, faggot.
>>536880583The papacy isn't the main facet of Catholicism. The purpose of Catholicism is the liturgy and the Eucharist. >>536879807He means the quote that Peter was the rock upon which the church will be built doesn't justify an absolutist power authority through succession to Peter. Christ was a biblical Jew, which has about as much to do with modern Rabbinical Judaism as a Mormon does with the early Apostolic pre-schism Orthodox church. Christ and the apostles were clearly not in the game for profitmaxxing, seeing as they died horrifically and destitute for preaching the Lord's truth.
>>536880583>man can be infalliblethats contrary to the scripture. also Peter never claimed authority over any other brother is Christ and had to be rebuked by Paul for being a hypocrite.>>536880650>>536880997>it's purpose seems to be wholly dedicated to preserving the liturgy and Eucharist>The purpose of Catholicism is the liturgy and the Eucharist.man, really makes you think how they cut Jesus Christ out of their main focus and neglect to feed his sheep when all thats left is human traditions and rituals.
>>536881488How is that cutting Christ from their main focus, if the liturgy is focused on the word of our Lord and the Eucharist is taken in remembrance of Him? Or do you mean the demons in the Papacy or the gospel of prosperity in the Protestants? I agree in the latter sense, that the entire purpose, focus, and reason for gathering is Christ.
>>536881832if the focus was on the Word these church organizations would preach their own doom.thats why they preach traditions and empty works.most protestant denominations do the same.its always human traditions over the clear Word of God.
>>536881488czechd diggies of an austrian painterpapal infallibites tongue my anus
>>536882009Not one thing happens during mass where the Word isn't upheld or is misused. That's why you need a rigid structure or your religion turns into an episcopalian dyke priest or pr*testant Israel worship and faggy libtards preaching about trans kids.
>>536883984I take heretic teachings by some clowns that can easily disproven by the scripture than an institution that claims it has authority over the interpretation of scripture and forbids the private study of scripture if you dont subject yourself under the head pontiff that takes the title of replacement of Jesus on earth.the romanist church is the worst heresy against God that ever existed on earth even so far that they claim that they have the authority to change the law of God.thats why roman catholics have a different 10 commandments than what the bible teaches.
>>536885915They no longer restrict study of scripture. The mass isn't even in Latin anymore. You have to remember how ignorant the peasants were back when those restrictions were in effect. You're in danger of becoming a heretic yourself if you allow preaching of heresey.
Do any of you Christcucks actually live like Jesus Christ or do you just LARP? Do you reject all violence? Do help the poor and weak? When someone assaults you do you turn the other cheek? Do you reject all material wealth? Do you have mother that’s a virgin? If you answered no to any of those questions then it’s time to shut the fuck up
>>536886578>They no longer restrict study of scripture.only because they couldnt prevent the printing of bibles anymore.people died for translating the scriptures and teaching them before the reformation.>The mass isn't even in Latin anymore.what kind of cop out is this supposed to be? how many millions perished because they never received the gospel?>You have to remember how ignorant the peasants were back when those restrictions were in effect.ah yes, the fucking reddit opinion that all people were drooling retards in rags in the middle ages. gtfo.scholars were burned for preaching the gospel by rome.>You're in danger of becoming a heretic yourself if you allow preaching of heresey.the roman catholic church leads billions of people into hell with its doctrines of people and humanist teachings. if you defend that crooked and corrupt organization then there is something wrong with you.am I saying all catholics are wrong and heretics? no, absolutely not.but the institution is, its a rotten corpse from all its past heresies and workings against God.come out of her my people.
>>536886955Yeah, we don't disagree on that. They did a lot of wrong things, like selling indulgences. But it's done far more good and the structure of it keeps out the faggotry that is poisoning many of the other branches. Jesus set the structure of His church, and He knew they were fallible but it needs structure.
>>536879295>My clique is big and it keeps getting bigger>That's 'cause Jesus Christ is a nigger
>>536879295Nothing Jewish is cool
>>536887533yes, but the structure needs to be set by Jesus and not by man who falsely claims authority by Peter when he does the exact opposite of what Peter did and preached.the roman church has one goal, a world government of a united humanity that will be like Babel with the god king Nimrod that receives the praise which is the throne of the roman pontiff.and all will bow before the beast and worship it and say "who can make war against it" and they will say peace and safety and then sudden destruction will come.do not be deceived.
>>536879295>Catholicism would be coolno it would never
>>536887926Until He speaks audibly to choose, it has to be the choice of men who have devoted their lives to the church. I don't know how else you'd do it. The point is that you won't end up with some shitlib dyke preaching to men.
>>536879611>but Orthodoxy is betterOk Shlomo.
>>536879295Any form of Christianity that puts a man between Christ and myself isn’t Christianity
>>536888198God gave us the Word for a reason, that each human can come to God at any time.following men or church teachings will only get you damned, the Word is there to know God directly.>it has to be the choice of men who have devoted their lives to the churchdo you think Jesus sits in heaven twisting his fingers anxiously waiting for humans to make the right choices?
>>536883626Seraphim Rose was so incredibly based.
>>536888278>memeflagopinion discarded
>>536888602No, I think God is involved in guiding the process.
>>536881488One verse? Peter speaks first at Pentecost. Peter performs the first healing. Peter receives Cornelius into the Church. Peter presides at the Council of Jerusalem. The primacy is all through Acts whether you like it or not.Peter being rebuked by Paul proves the papacy isn't about the man's holiness. It's about the office. Peter denied Christ three times. If the papacy required sinlessness there wouldn't be one. Paul rebuked him for hypocrisy not heresy and the fact that this is recorded in scripture proves the Church doesn't hide its leaders' failures.Papal infallibility means the Holy Spirit prevents the Pope from teaching error when he speaks ex cathedra on faith and morals. Exercised twice in 150 years. The Pope can be a bad man and still protected from teaching error. The office survives the man. That's the whole point.
>>536890879>One verse? Peter speaks first at Pentecost. Peter performs the first healing. Peter receives Cornelius into the Church. Peter presides at the Council of Jerusalem. The primacy is all through Acts whether you like it or not.its not just one verse. read the letters from Peter himself. he preaches that we have not to lord over others. that all believers are a kingdom of priests. he repeatedly refers to himself as a fellow brethren and Jesus Christ is the one that leads.Jesus didnt say "you are Peter and on this rock I build YOUR Church", he said its HIS, Jesus Christs Church. not Peter.so popery can be thrown into the trash outright.>Holy Spirit prevents the Pope from teaching errorthen why is the papacy involved in all the errors of roman catholocism?that means the papacy is directed by another spirit, the spirit of antichrist.>The Pope can be a bad man and still protected from teaching error.a man guided by the Holy Spirit can be a bad man? the Holy Spirit is God.
>>536890617I dont think its God but satan, since its satan who grants his thrown to the antichrist.God granted his throne to Jesus in heaven.
>>5368912951 Peter 5 doesn't abolish hierarchy. It tells elders not to be tyrants. The same Peter who wrote "not lording it over" also wrote "obey your elders" in the same letter. The same Peter who called believers a kingdom of priests was the one making the binding decision at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15. After much debate Peter stood up, declared the verdict, and the assembly fell silent. That's not a suggestion. That's authority. The question isn't whether Peter had primacy. Acts is unambiguous. The question is whether that primacy died with Peter or continued through succession. If it died with him, why did Clement of Rome in 96 AD exercise authority over the Corinthian church while John the Apostle was still alive? Clement didn't ask. He commanded. The Corinthians obeyed and preserved his letter for centuries. Rome's authority was recognized 30 years after Peter died. That's not a later invention that's not a later invention, that's literally the first century.
>>536891913>It tells elders not to be tyrantsthe pope is a tyrant and history proves it.>was the one making the binding decision at the Council of Jerusalem in Acts 15he was not alone and not the final decision maker.James, the head of the Church of Jerusalem was present and so was Paul.it was not Peter alone.>That's not a suggestion.yes it is, since its not recorded as such.>John the Apostle was still alive?John was in fucking exile. what a retarded argument.>Rome's authority was recognized 30 years after Peter died.lol, lmao even.hey, if you need a physical tyrant so much just continue and follow satan into gehenna. not my problem.my leader and Head is Jesus Christ, not some clown that larps as the him in rome.
>no wonder the American Protestants didnt want them coming inWhich is weird, because protestants are now perfectly okay with getting the country full of outsiders.
>>536892471The Pope being a tyrant historically doesn't disprove the office. It proves the office is divine because it survives bad men. Judas was an apostle. If apostolic office required sinlessness it died with him. James was head of the Jerusalem church locally. Peter presided over the universal council. Acts 15:7 says after much debate Peter stood up and spoke, then verse 12 says all the assembly kept silence. Then James speaks in agreement with Peter not in correction. James cites Peter's testimony as authoritative. That's not equals debating, that's primacy in action. John being exiled on Patmos is exactly my point. While the last living apostle was isolated on an island the church in Corinth looked to Rome for authority. Not to Ephesus where John had been. Not to Jerusalem where James had been. To Rome. Because the Roman church held Peter's authority and Peter was dead. Succession was already functioning in the first century.
>>536892921>The Pope being a tyrant historically doesn't disprove the office.yes it does.the Holy Spirit doesnt approve tyrants, he transforms people into the image of Jesus Christ.this alone is prove that the office of papal authority isnt approved by God.you cant have one or the other.
>>536892921>Judas was an apostle.which apostolic office do you think the pope holds?the pope betrayed Christ and the 10 commandments. he is of the devil.
>>536888278Not a Shlomo, he's a serbtranny toilet cleaning migrant in Catholic Slovenia because swarthodog countries are poor shitholes
>>536892921>and Peter was deadexactly, so he doesnt need a replacement. his role was fulfilled in his life.there is no head bishop over others bishops. it was fulfilled in Peter and he died.
>>536879295They did an alright job transcribing history and humanities and made overzealous cucks like galileo and descates seethe so they can play with their mutants i guess
>>536893094You say the Spirit transforms leaders not approves tyrants. Protestantism has televangelists stealing millions and megachurch pastors sleeping with congregants. Your standard fails in your own camp. The difference is the Catholic Church never claimed its leaders are personally holy. It claims the office is protected from teaching error. Two different things. But let's talk about your position. You're Protestant. Why aren't you Orthodox? The Orthodox have apostolic succession, real sacraments, bishops tracing back to the apostles, everything Catholicism has minus the Pope. If the Pope was your problem the logical move was east. Instead you went Protestant which means you didn't just reject one office. You rejected all offices. You put yourself in the chair. Now there are forty thousand denominations all claiming the Spirit told them different things on baptism, Eucharist, predestination, divorce, and whether women can be pastors. The Spirit doesn't contradict himself. If forty thousand groups all claim the Spirit and all disagree, the Spirit isn't the one talking. You need a visible authority to settle disputes or you're listening to your own echo. That's why Christ gave Peter the keys. The same Peter he called Satan two verses later in Matthew 16. The office survives the man. Your system can't even explain where the true church was for fifteen hundred years. Luther found it in a Bible the Catholic Church preserved and canonized.
>>536893576>Protestantism has televangelists stealing millions and megachurch pastors sleeping with congregants.always the last resort huh? equating heretical people that call themselves christian with protestants.I accept your concession papist.go follow the richest man on the world, there is your prosperity televangelist. the pope.
>>536893576>is protected from teaching errorcool, where are the 10 commandments?2nd commandment gone.4th commandment changed.those are the errors of roman catholocism.Jeremiah 913And the Lord says: “Because they have forsaken my law that I set before them, and have not obeyed my voice or walked in accord with it, 14but have stubbornly followed their own hearts and have gone after the Baals, as their fathers taught them.>Why aren't you Orthodox?catholocism light. veneration of images and saints.I am sola scriptura, thus cant be an orthodox.>You rejected all offices.not the one of Jesus Christ, I am answerable to him.>You put yourself in the chair.wrong, Jesus Christ who is God is above me and I have to be humble and yield to his Will and not my will.his Will be done, not mine. its not a cop out, its hard and a struggle. fuck your "youre your own pope" bullshit, following Christ is hard and takes obedience to the Word.> Now there are forty thousand denominationsweird how so many "denominations" come to the same conclusion about your cult.how many churches were there when the apostles preached, do you insult them as denominations too? Paul didnt, he had to deal with them all decentralized and all with error of some sort, and he loved them all and wept for them.>The Spirit doesn't contradict himself.the Holy Spirit does as he pleases, and not how you want. again, why are so many "denominations" against the papal office. someone told them.>the Spirit isn't the one talkingyou seem to ignore that the spirit of antichrist is at work too.you need discernment to tell them apart since I can tell you are not inhabited by the Holy Spirit to do so.the Holy Spirit leads people out of babylon, not into it.> That's why Christ gave Peter the keys.he used them in Acts, giving jews, samaritans and the gentiles access to the gospel.>The office survives the man.the papacy is not the office of Peter, remember, he died.
>>536893576>Your system can't even explain where the true church was for fifteen hundred years.yes I can, rome persecuted and killed anyone who did not bow to the pope but called himself a christian and adhered to the scriptures.its always easy to sweep the millions of christians who died at the hands of the papacy under the rug.but I guess youre american and dont have that history in your countries heritage.the papacy killed more christian europeans than anyone.>Luther found it in a Bible the Catholic Church preserved and canonized.wrong, the translated from the greek received text, not the latin.funny how it took a ROMAN CATHOLIC monk to call out the papacy as antichrist.Luther was one of your own.
