Brace yourself like a man. I will question you, and you shall answer me.Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.Who stretched a measuring line across it?On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone, while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, when I made the clouds its garment, and wrapped it in thick darkness, when I fixed limits for it, and set its doors and bars in place, when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt’?Have you ever given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.The wicked are denied their light, and their upraised arm is broken.Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea, or walked in the recesses of the deep?Have the gates of death been shown to you? Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?Tell me, if you know all this. What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?Tell me, if you understand.
>>536906203can you post your worthless shitskin worshipping christcuck ramblings somewhere else?
>>536906203Go and slober on some niggerfeet christkike.
>>536906370>>536906409You have not answered me. Do you not understand?Where were you when the Earth's foundations were laid?
>>536906203The Jew God attempts to Wow Job with wonders and pilpul to evade answering the fookin' main question! Why does a righteous man have to suffer for as a result of YHWH's gambling with human lives with Ha Satan in a Truth or Dare game?
>>536906520Why do you have to suffer?Why do you have life at all? How do you know yourself as righteous? Are you, finite, mortal, impossibly small and infinitesimal individual, keen to the fabric of how your own reality was constructed? How have you ascended so far beyond your forebears, your peers and your enemies? Tell me, if you understand.
>>536906203Was Christ Iranian?Is that why Jews attack Iran?
>>536906203ave ave christus rex
>>536906520because god created you . you have only the mercy god give you n his rightous judgement stop crying n have faith in him/ you are mortal n dont need to know everythiing
>>536906463go be a jew worshipper somewhere else
>>536906751the jew god isnt real tho
>>536906203I used to mock the story of Job when I was an edgy atheist teen. It’s now one of the most beautiful things I can imagine.We did not create ourselves and everything we have ever been lucky enough to enjoy and experience is a result of Him. The God that created us and has full control and power over His creation has the full, justified right to smite and erase us where we stand the second we commit any heinous or degenerate act at any point in our lives, or for any reason at all. Yet, he doesn’t. He allows the self aware the chance to correct and save themselves for no reason other than love for them and a desire to see them change and be fulfilled, and still reserves justice and punishment for those who ultimately refuse it. Ave Christus Rex.
>>536906967>>536906991Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea, or walked in the recesses of the deep?Have the gates of death been shown to you? Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?Tell me, if you know all this. What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?Tell me, if you understand.
>>536906991he will be waiting for you. one day you will need him n he will be there will open arms. he loves everyone so much you cant even .
>>536906203Christcucks are so insufferable. I hate kikes, but I saw this video of Christkikes with a loud speaker and a guitar just yelling jesus loves you, he's the tooth the way and the knife and just being a menace agitating the Jews. Who fucking does that? No wonder the kikes hate them so much and I'm so glad that's banned here
>>536906203OP is a schizo, but that John McAfee phenotype of the shroud is in fact the Christ phenotype. Have no reason to believe it is or isn't but, as far as that's concerned, it is the Christ phenotype.
>>536907013what part of fuck off with your christcuck ramblings you dont understand?no hablo english?>>536907128hes fake and doesnt exist, jews made it up so you are easier to control.
>>536906203The Shroud of Turin is a forgery btw. You'd know this if you read the Bible, but asking that of Christians is apparently too much nowadays.
>>536906991you are too hyper focus on the jew part i understand they like to trick n deceive. i dont know why god "chose" them to carry the word of god. i think you giver to much credit on these "evil" jews. they are not smart enought to create jesus cause it doesnt benefit them for jesus called him out in the flesh for their trickery jesus noticed first
>>536907234It is impossible to explain how the Shroud of Turin could have been forged. You can attempt to explain it and I will refute you. Please do so. >>536907221You have not answered. Do you not understand?
>>536907221i mean i guess they can control the masses cause most dont actually read the bible but if they read the bible instead of these pastor they would know not to support zionism how do they control with jesus?
>>536907276>It is impossible to explain how the Shroud of Turin could have been forged.So? I don't care how it was forged, just that it IS forged. You would know this if you read the Bible. Did you?
>>536907252stop partaking in fake jewish slave religions.
>>536907276It's not impossible, that's a christcuck claim. It was a medieval forgery, and even if it wasn't how does that prove that some Jew is god?
>>536907276so what made you a braindamaged jew worshipper?were you always low IQ or did something happen to you? like a stroke, drug abuse?are you even white?
>>536907299christcucks are the most obedient jewish asslickers.
>>536907327The Shroud of Turin is perfectly aligned with everything in the Bible. It is impossible to explain how the Shroud of Turin could have been forged. You can attempt to explain it and I will refute you. Please do so.>>536907346It is impossible to explain how the Shroud of Turin could have been forged. You can attempt to explain it and I will refute you. Please do so.>>536907361>>536907340You have not answered. Do you not understand?Where were you when the earth’s foundation was laid?
>>536907408Pretty simple. Some guy forged it. There you go
>>536907421How did some guy do so? It should be quite straightforward given the limitations of medieval technology. Please explain.
>>536907377explain how i worship other jews cause i dont want to be an animal n kill them ? i understand the political climate about them but i do not worship most especially when they hate my god
>>536907252>i dont know why god "chose" them to carry the word of god.my theory is that they were "chosen" to follow the one true god because the Lord knew they would write things down, and because He likes using the least of us to accomplish things. That's just my theory, I am not the Lord, nor do I know a million millionth of what He does. Christ is King. All I truly know is that I trust Him, and try to do my best to navigate a sinful world, admittedly my best is not very good.
>>536906203
>>536906203Praise jesusPraise Ra
>>536906203I don't want to hear about it anymoreIt's a shame I've got to live without you anymoreThere's a fire in my heartA pounding in my brain, it's driving me crazyWe don't need to talk about it anymoreYesterday's just a memoryCan we close the door?I just made one mistakeI didn't know what to say when you called me babyDon't say goodnightSay you're gonna stay foreverOh, whoa, all the wayCan you take me high enoughTo fly me over (fly me over) yesterday?Can you take me high enough?It's never over, and yesterday's just a memoryYesterday's just a memoryI don't want to live without you anymoreCan't you see I'm in misery?And you know for sureI would live and die for youAnd I'd know just what to do when you call me babyDon't say goodbyeSay you're gonna stay foreverOh, whoa, all the wayCan you take me high enough?Can you fly me over (fly me over) yesterday?Can you take me high enough?It's never over, and yesterday's just a memoryI was running (oh, oh, oh, oh, oh)I was running for the door (oh, oh, oh, oh, oh)The next thing I remember (oh, oh, oh, oh, oh)I was running back for more (oh, oh, oh, oh, oh)Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahDon't say goodbyeSay you're gonna stay foreverOh, whoa, all the way, all the wayAll the way, yeahCan you take me high enough?Can you fly me over (fly me over) yesterday?Can you take me high enough?It's never overWhoa, whoa, whoa, whoaCan you take me high enough?Won't you fly me over (won't you fly me over) yesterday?Can you take me high enough?It's never overWhoa, whoa, whoa, whoahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_uh8XjgLTE&list=RDl_uh8XjgLTE&start_radio=1
>>536907408>shitskin christcuck worshipper repeats himself like a broken NPCtypical>>536907479it makes you a retarded obedient subhuman that is easy to exploit by jews.for example many christcuck losers give the church money and the church uses that money to import more niggers.
>>536907467According to christcucks. Prove your claim
>>536906203you do realize that if that was an actual shroud over a human face it would create a print much wider than long, it would look like a pumpkin basically. its all fake and gay.
>>536906463We wuz in Heaven, we are fallen angels an sheeeit.
>>536907631You can't answer at all. Don't you find that odd?>>536907662My claim: You can't explain how someone could forge it. Explain, and my claim is false.>>536907675That's based on the logic of it being a forgery. It only shows it could not have been forged. Do you understand?>>536907693"We" wuzn't, we are not eternal.
>>536907675christcucks are low iq and cant figure such things out and arent interested in figuring anything out, all they want to do is indulge in fake jewish storys and annoy everyone else with it hoping they can spread their retardation to others.
>>536907758>You can't answer at all. Don't you find that odd?answer what? there is no answer to your retarded jewish gibberish.now answer me and explain why you are retarded.
>>536907408>The Shroud of Turin is perfectly aligned with everything in the Bible.You really never read it, then. Alright, let me point out the problems with your 'unforgeable relic.'>ONE: The imprint makes no sense. The claim is that the resurrection unleashed such fantastical energy it imprinted onto the cloth. But remember, the cloth was wrapped AROUND Jesus' body. If that were the case, you'd expect pretty much the entire cloth to be covered in this white residue. If you've ever done 3D modelling, you already know how an object projected onto a flat surface would look, and it is not what the cloth shows. >TWO: There are two clothsThe Bible and general history corroborate this. Per Jewish custom, Jesus' head would be covered with a separate cloth while he was still on the cross. This cloth is called a sudarium, and the Bible mentions it as well. But if Jesus' head was wrapped in another cloth separate from the burial shroud, how do we see it on the Shroud of Turin?>THREE: THE BIBLE LITERALLY NEVER MENTIONS ITI figured this should be common sense, but if the Shroud of Turin is authentic... why isn't it written about in the Bible? Don't you think that the apostles would have noticed a huge Jesus-shaped imprint when they went into the tomb? Or did they just forget to jot that part down? Or, most likely, they didn't see shit, because this 'resurrection energy' thing never happened. The Shroud is a forgery, plain and simple.
>>536907782>>536907808Were you there when the Earth's foundations were laid?Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea, or walked in the recesses of the deep?Have the gates of death been shown to you? Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?Tell me, if you know all this. What is the way to the abode of light? And where does darkness reside? Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?They are very simple questions. Someone with a high IQ could answer very easily.
>>536907276Anon, I'm sorry, but I'm a Christian, but I also believe that the shroud is a forgery, although it may not have been made with deceptive intent. You may wish to read the following article: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13762a.htm
>>536907758Your claim is that it was by a Jew rabbi who was god. That's the positive claim and we're saying it's not. Prove it.
>>536907758quite the opposite, yours is a proven forgery because whoever made it, made it from the assumption of looking down at it, like a photograph, but now that 3D is prevalent, a UV mapping of a face is easy to see, it would look like what I attached above. yours is an absolute forgery of an artist who had no idea of the 3D space.
>>536907869>They are very simple questions. its literally just gibberish.earth has no foundations, its not a building you moron.
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bayo4TZzjYA&list=RDBayo4TZzjYA&start_radio=1Welcome to the big time, you're bound to be a starAnd even if you don't go all the way, I know that you'll go farThis race is for rats, it can turn you upside downAin't no one you can count on in this sleazy little town, oh noLots of promises in the darkDon't you open your heart'Cause it don't mean nothin'The words that they sayNo, it don't mean nothin'These games that people playNo, it don't mean nothin'No victim, no crimeNo, it don't mean nothin''Til you sign it on the dotted lineOh, yeahThe director smiles as you walk in the doorHe says, "I love your work, babeBut you're just not what we're looking forIt's never what, but who it is you knowSo easy to get stuck in all that California snow, oh noTake a good look around and you'll findPeople tryin' to mess with your mindBut it don't mean nothin'The words that they sayNo, it don't mean nothin'These games that people playNo, it don't mean nothin'No victim, no crimeNo, it don't mean nothin''Til you sign it on the dotted lineHollywood can be so lonelyMake you the winner of a losing fightThe party is never over'Cause stars are always shiningDoesn't matter if it's day or nightThe producer says, "Let me change a line or two"And a little bit of something can look awfully good to youAnd you want to scream, but you gotta keep it all insideWhen you're trying to make a livingThere ain't no such thing as pride, oh noLots of promises in the darkDon't you open your heart'Cause it don't mean nothin'The words that they sayNo, it don't mean nothin'These games that people playNo, it don't mean nothin'No victim, no crimeNo, it don't mean nothin''Til you sign it on the dotted line(Don't mean nothin') don't mean nothin'(Don't mean nothin') oh, no, it don't mean nothin'(Don't mean nothin') oh, no, it don't mean nothin'(Don't mean nothin') don't mean nothin' at all
>>536906203The other day I was wondering if there's a religion that just follows the Old Testament. As in, the New Testament isn't included, but the Jewish talmud also isn't included. Literally just the OTI feel a tremendous LARP potential emanating from this idea
>>536906203What gospel is this from?
>>536906520Because Yaweh is not God, but the Demiurge. It makes total sense that an ignorant jealous deity would stomp his feet and cry about all the hard work he did doing a shitty copy job of the Pleroma as a justification for suffering and misery in the material realm.
>>536906203Another kike golem thread?
>>536908105Yahweh, jew God etc. are all made up non existing entities from the mind of a jew.
>>536907886Unironically, deboonked. Do more research. The Bishop in 1389 did not have the technological analysis available today that disproves the original claim, and the original claim is much more neutral than implied in your link.>>5369078611. Projection. The image is faint surface discoloration, not residue. Cloth wrapped around a 3D body and flattened shows lateral smearing (the "Agamemnon mask" effect); the Shroud's face is instead unnaturally narrow — no side imaging, no crown imprint, hair hanging as if standing, blood unsmeared despite wrapping. A 2024 simulation matched a flat bas-relief, not a body. "Resurrection radiation" needs vertically collimated light: a description of artistic projection, not physics.2. Two cloths. John 20:5–7 lists plural cloths plus a separate soudarion on the head (custom: John 11:44). A face cloth blocks a facial image, yet the face is the Shroud's most vivid part. The only excavated 1st-c. Jerusalem shroud (Akeldama) was plain weave with a separate head cloth; Turin's herringbone twill is medieval. Dilemma: a tightly wound, spice-packed body (Mark, John) forbids the undistorted image; a loose drape contradicts the Gospels.3. Silence. John 20 lingers on the grave cloths; inspected, arrangement noted, faith produced; yet reports no image. Thirteen centuries of silence follow; iconoclast defenders cite Edessa's face, never a body. History begins ~1355 in Lirey; d'Arcis's 1389 memo says the artist confessed; three labs carbon-dated it 1260–1390, converging exactly.Live defenses to handle: Pray Codex (~1195), Mandylion theory, repaired-corner C-14 objection, image superficiality>>536908017See above>>536907992it is impossible for a religion to "just follow:" the Septuagint because it does not function without a continuous process of Temple Sacrifice. That's the entire reason kikes had to invent the Talmud, wouldn't be necessary otherwise.>>536908105>gnostic retardationEmbarrassing.
>>536908122yes, kike golems need to spread this mind cancer to others. thats how they work and why we keep seeing these threads.for some reason christcuck retards think they will convince anyone here to join their jewish slave religion.
>>536908129>without a continuous process of Temple SacrificeOK so build a temple in the woods and burn cows there
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh8MIp2FOhc&list=RDmh8MIp2FOhc&start_radio=1I guess this time you're really leavingI heard your suitcase say 'goodbye'Well, as my broken heart lies bleedingYou say true love, it's suicideYou say you've cried a thousand riversAnd now you're swimming for the shoreYou left me drowning in my tearsAnd you won't save me anymoreI pray to God you'll give me one more chance, girlI'll be there for youThese five words, I swear to youWhen you breathe, I want to beThe air for youI'll be there for youI'd live and I'd die for youI'd steal the sun from the sky for youWords can't say what love can doI'll be there for youI know you know we've had some good timesNow they have their own hiding placeWell, I can promise you tomorrowBut I can't buy back yesterdayAnd baby you know my hands are dirtyBut I wanted to be your valentineI'll be the waterWhen you get thirsty, babyWhen you get drunk I'll be the wine, oh!I'll be there for youThese five words I swear to youWhen you breatheI want to be the air for youI'll be there for youI'd live and I'd die for youI'd steal the sun from the sky for youWords can't say what love can doI'll be there for youI wasn't there when you were happyAnd I wasn't there when you were downDidn't mean to miss your birthday, babyI wish I'd seen you blow those candles outI'll be there for youThese five words I swear to youWhen you breatheI want to be the air for youI'll be there for youI'd live and I'd die for youI'd steal the sun from the sky for youWords can't say what love can doI'll be there forI'll be there for youThese five words I swear to youWhen you breatheI want to be the air for youI'll be there for youI'd live and I'd die for youSteal the sun from the sky for youWords can't say what love can doI'll be there for you
>>536908129>History begins ~1355 in Lirey; d'Arcis's 1389 memo says the artist confessed; three labs carbon-dated it 1260–1390, converging exactly.Anon, you retard, you copy-pasted something that agrees with me. Not content with not reading the Bible, you then go on to not read whatever the hell you took this shit from. Christians are illiterate, I swear
>>536908191Judaism forbids Temple sacrifices outside Jerusalem because they must be offered at the designated Temple, by priests, and following strict ritual laws. After the Temple’s destruction, sacrifices became impossible, so those still rejecting Christ invented the Talmud to cope. These are the evil "jews" you know today. NOTE: they are evil because they reject REALITY = LOGOS = LOGIC = TRUTH. Truth = Christ = Love = Good. Do you understand?
>>536908129Whether or not the shroud is authentic, anon, consider this: is our faith stronger with or without this cloth? Remember Christ's words in John 20:29>Jesus saith to him: Because thou hast seen me, Thomas, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and have believed.
>>536908352That's the point. You don't even understand what you're walking into. Simple strategy. Unfortunate failing of cope (anti-logic reasoning to deny truth while pretending adherence to being 'correct'; exact method of creating Talmud). The Mandylion argument answers exactly that: the cloth was kept folded tetradiplon, doubled in four, so only the face showed in a landscape frame. Of course they cited a face and never a body; the body was folded out of view. The thing the skeptic reads as "the full-body image didn't exist yet" becomes "the full-body image was there, hidden." Same evidence, inverted. It then fills the supposed silence with a positive chain of custody; Edessa from the 6th century, Constantinople in 944, Robert de Clari's full-body sydoine at Blachernae in 1203, the 1204 sack, resurfacing with the de Charny line - which directly contradicts "history begins ~1355 in Lirey." You didn't follow the live defenses.
>>536908401Faith is required for any belief whatsoever. Blind faith is illogical, hence presence of evidence (witness testimony, artifacts, impact on human affairs, philosophy, morality)). Evidence, logic defines Christian philosophical system; error to assign blind faith as fundamental to Christianity (actually opposite)
>>536907210It's more than just an image. It has encoded 3d information, extreme superficiality and other unreplicable attributeshttps://xenosarc.substack.com/p/some-facts-about-the-shroud-of-turin
>>536906203>Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundationfucking your mom kek get it?cuz she got creampied by holy spirit and that was me
>>536907234No
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzGXHGbflAY&list=RDDzGXHGbflAY&start_radio=1Look into my eyesYou will seeWhat you mean to meSearch your heartSearch your soulAnd when you find me thereYou'll search no moreDon't tell me it's not worth tryin' forYou can't tell me it's not worth dyin' forYou know it's trueEverything I doI do it for youLook into your heartYou will findThere's nothin' there to hideTake me as I amTake my lifeI would give it allI would sacrificeDon't tell me it's not worth fightin' forI can't help it there's nothin' I want moreYou know it's trueEverything I doI do it for youThere's no loveLike your loveAnd no otherCould give more loveThere's nowhereUnless you're thereAll the timeAll the way, yeahLook into your heart, babyOh you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' forI can't help it there's nothin' I want moreYeah, I would fight for youI lie for youWalk the wire for youYeah, I'd die for youYou know it's trueEverything I doOhI do it for youEverything I do, darlingYeah we'll see it throughWell we'll see it though, oh yeahYeah!Search your heart and your soulYou can't tell me it ain't worth dyin' forI'll be thereI'd walk the fire for youI'd die for youOh, yeahAll the timeI'm going all the way, all the way
>>536908676Inability to answer honestly despite straightforward, honest answer being evident and understood by yourself and others; confirmation.>>536908674Correct. This is never addressed or explained. Must be dodged (refusal to address truth = rejection of truth; truth = Christ). Logic, straightforward. Evidence clear.
>>536906203Jackie Chan
>>536907861>was wrapped AROUNDIn this region it wasn't custom to wrap it around a body like a bandage. It was loosely laid on top and below the body
>>536908504>Of course they cited a face and never a body; the body was folded out of view.Who???? The fuck???? Would do that???? You're really going to sit here and try and convince me the Shroud was folded IN JUST SUCH A WAY that the body cannot be seen, and it never crossed anyone's mind to unfold it to see the whole thing?And, for the record, none of what you said addresses any of my arguments. You've established a chain of custody, good job. What we're seeing today is still a forgery, for aformentioned reasons.
>>536908611Although by his reason alone man can know certain things about God, he cannot know, without the light of faith, others, e.g., the doctrine of the Trinity.
>>536906203I was here and there. Before form.I know the secret paths and that which borders the old, the new, and the forgotten.I have seen every flood, and I know those serpents who exist between worlds.I've seen the horrible end of the first world and the dreamers.I built the ships, white with their blue stripes, that will come. I've known of the horrors below ground.I have seen the trapped archon in its little box because I am him.The nukes go off in Texas to start. It cannot be undone.The black that exists between Laguna and Catalina will rise from the ocean and those who did not die in the fires will drown.I've chosen a name, or remembered it. But I don't know if mankind will ever know it.I am a witness and have been since the beginning.To some, I am a god, but to god I am something else.I have created life and worlds and authored a terrible destiny for this world we now share.To god I said, "a suffering all my own known by no other"It asked, "are you sure?"Far away in another human world the sky has become clear at night for the first time. They see stars now and one of them is Sol. From this world we are in now, every world can be seen.
>>536906203> What is the way to the abode of light?Find the door. The Trinity is the key that opens it.
>>536908850>Who???? The fuck???? Would do that???? You're really going to sit here and try and convince me the Shroud was folded IN JUST SUCH A WAY that the body cannot be seen, and it never crossed anyone's mind to unfold it to see the whole thing?Your objection assumes a loose sheet anyone could shake open, but the cloth was tensioned and sealed inside a gold reliquary with an aperture exposing only the face. You don't casually unfold a sealed imperial relic. This is recorded history from the Eastern Roman History prior to 1000 AD, long before your implied initial timeline. People did eventually see more: the 944 Constantinople sermon mentions a side wound, and in 1203 Robert de Clari describes the full-length body displayed upright at Blachernae. The body got unfolded and shown, it just happened in Constantinople before the cloth ever reached Lirey. Logic of Shroud of Turin being separate from Image of Edessa thus fails - identical markings, recreations prior to implied required date of forger.y>And, for the record, none of what you said addresses any of my arguments. You've established a chain of custody, good job. What we're seeing today is still a forgery, for aformentioned reasons.You explained nothing of how it was a forgery whatsoever. Failure to explain = does not hold truth = incorrect>>536908905Correct, doctrine = evidence
you realize his face would need to be flat to leave that image?a cloth would drape over the head and leave a entirely shape...fucking christians are all literal smooth brains
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9olaIio3l8&list=RDk9olaIio3l8&start_radio=1Think about itThere must be higher loveDown in the heart or hidden in the stars aboveWithout it, life is wasted timeLook inside your heart, I'll look inside mineThings look so bad everywhereIn this whole world, what is fairWe walk blind and we try to seeFalling behind in what could beBring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher loveWhere's that higher love I keep thinking ofWorlds are turning, and we're just hanging onFacing our fear and standing out there aloneA yearning, and it's real to meThere must be someone who is feeling for meThings look so bad everywhereIn this whole world, what is fairWe walk blind and we try to seeFalling behind in what could beBring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher loveWhere's that higher love, I've been thinkin' ofBring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher loveA good kind of love, want a higher loveI will wait for itI'm not too late for itUntil then, I sing my songTo cheer the night alongBring itMm-hmmI could light the night up with my soul on fireI could make the sun shine from pure desireLet me feel that love come over meLet me feel how strong it could beOh, ohBring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher loveWhere's that higher love, I've been thinkin' ofBring me a higher loverBring me a higher love, oh(Bring me) bring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher loveOh, oh, bring me a higher loveBring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, oh(I said, bring me) bring me a higher loveBring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher love (oh-oh-oh)(Bring me a higher love), bring me a higher love, oh(Bring me a higher love), bring me a higher love (bring it on)(Bring me a higher love), bring me a higher love, ohBring me a higher love(I say, bring me) bring me a higher loveOh, yeahBring me a higher level
>>536909035>you realize his face would need to be flat to leave that image?>a cloth would drape over the head and leave a entirely shape...Already addressed. This is the case if starting from assumption that image is a forgery. Thus, is actually argument against possibility of a forgery. Very simple; failure to adhere to basic logic.
>>536906370You will do as your American masters command you, or else.
>>536907234>The Shroud of Turin is a forgery btw.You are such a retard>"it's a forgery">"Ok how was it made?">"RREEEEEE WHO CARES?"The fact that the Shroud can't be duplicated even with MODERN tech proves how insane of a relic it is.
>>536907276>You can attempt to explain it and I will refute you. Please do so.People lie about shit to make others believe things that aren't true.That's how they do it.There are a lot of incentives that would prefer you believe their holy artifacts are all real.
>>536907346>It was a medieval forgery,Then why can't we duplicate it today? If it was a forgery why weren't there dozens of them? That's like a Chinese company making 1 fake Gucci bag and calling it a day.
>>536906203Eat a dick faggot
>>536906520Jews use this book and particularly this section as a proof of reincarnation. What is implied is that Job did something wrong to deserve it before the material universe has even been created.
>>536907908>yours is an absolute forgery of an artist who had no idea of the 3D space.Wrong retard. You assume the cloth is wrapped around His face like a modern cotton cloth. Linen is a stiffer fabric and it layed against His face more like a piece of cardboard over his face.
>>536909239Response irrelevant to subject matter.Argument: No explanation of how forgery possibleResponse: Contains no explanationResponse fails to address/refute argument; result; argument holds.
>>536906203>And where does darkness reside?Near jews or in your head if you are disturbed.>What is the way to the abode of light? Who knows, maybe if you behave decently and do good acts due to your good nature you might reach it, i am scared i won't.
The shroud of turin is fake guys. Embracing fake shit like that makes your religion look stupid and you look stupid. You should reconsider the facts.
>>536909291What substances have you consumed and what color is your skin?
>>536909309>The shroud of turin is fake guysThen why can't it be duplicated today?
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3sMjm9Eloo&list=RDU3sMjm9Eloo&start_radio=1Love's like a road that you travel onWhen there's one day here and the next day goneSometimes you bend, sometimes you standSometimes you turn your back to the windThere's a world outside every darkened doorWhere blues won't haunt you anymoreWhere the brave are free and lovers soarCome ride with me to the distant shoreWe won't hesitateBreak down the garden gateThere's not much time left todayLife is a highwayI wanna ride it all night longIf you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night longThrough all these cities and all these townsIt's in my blood and it's all aroundI loved you now like I loved you thenThis is the road and these are the hillsFrom Mozambique to those Memphis nightsThe Khyber Pass to Vancouver's lightsKnock me down, back up againYou're in my blood; I'm not a lonely manThere's no load I can't holdRoad so rough; this I knowI'll be there when the light comes inJust tell 'em we're survivorsLife is a highwayI wanna ride it all night longIf you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night longLife is a highwayI wanna ride it all night long (gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, yeah!)If you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night longThere was a distance between you and IA misunderstanding onceBut now we look it in the eye (oh!)There ain't no load that I can't holdRoad so rough, this I knowI'll be there when the light comes inJust tell 'em we're survivorsLife is a highwayI wanna ride it all night longIf you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night long (gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, yeah!)Life is a highwayI wanna ride it all night longIf you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night long (gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, yeah!)Life is a highwayI wanna ride it all night longIf you're going my wayI wanna drive it all night long (gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, yeah!)
>>536909101No retard, it's simply not being retarded and understanding a 3d imprint held flat won't resemble that imageYou people are literal low IQ chriggers
>>536909312Response irrelevant to subject matter.Argument: No explanation of how forgery possibleResponse: Contains no explanationResponse fails to address/refute argument; result; argument holds.Addressing relevance of skin color - implication: argument is low IQ. However, avoidance of addressing argument implies inability of logical response - inability of logical response implies low IQ; low IQ implies nigger or nigger adjacent mind.
I know that you can do all things;no purpose of yours can be thwarted.You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?’Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know.
>>536909359>No retard, it's simply not being retarded and understanding a 3d imprint held flat won't resemble that imageSee >>536909289
>>536908993>but the cloth was tensioned and sealed inside a gold reliquary with an aperture exposing only the face.Again, who the fuck would do that? If you possessed what you knew to be Christ's full burial shroud, you would venerate it as a burial shroud, not a face image. You're constructing the facts in the only way that fits the theory, you're not forming a theory from any facts. >You don't casually unfold a sealed imperial relic.Casually, no. But never at all? That's bordering on impossible, anon.>your implied initial timeline...my timeline? Are you using ChatGPT to argue for you? You are. You don't actually know any of the shit you're talking about, you rat.>You explained nothing of how it was a forgery whatsoever.I told you. I don't care how it was forged, just that it IS forged, which the Bible shows it had to have been,
>>536909409>I told you. I don't care how it was forged, just that it IS forged,It isn't forged. It can't be duplicated. If it could be duplicated, I would agree.
>>536909219>Putting modern tech on a pedestal.I understand your logic, and do indeed believe the shroud to be a relic, but our modern tech can't even duplicate the Roman roads we're still using.
>>536909409The image can't be a medieval forgery because even today with modern lab equipment it is impossible to replicate all physical, chemical and microscopic details of the shroud.See https://xenosarc.substack.com/p/some-facts-about-the-shroud-of-turin
>>536909455>but our modern tech can't even duplicate the Roman roads we're still using.They absolutely can. We just choose not to because it's not cost effective, and Roman roads were made for horse and buggy, they would be obliterated by modern vehicles.
>>536909445>It can't be duplicated.Cool. It still makes no sense for it to exist the way that it does.
>>536909306>*Funkytown starts playing in the background*
>>536909455We easily can but we use different techniquesIn the case of the shroud, we simply cannot
>>536909386>Linen is a stiffer fabric and it layed against His face more like a piece of cardboard over his face.Lmao
>>536909519racist bigot you will know them by their fruits
>>536909487>It still makes no sense for it to exist the way that it does.Explain in detail. Here are the facts>wounds on the body are accurate to the damage from Roman razor whips so whoever "forged" this must have been some genius with anatomy and skin wounds>blood put on BEFORE the image of the body. What "forger" would go to so much trouble and make his job 10,000 harder by putting the blood on first? Did he say "I'd better put the blood on first just in case they have electric micorscopes 600 years in the future">dirt from the area of the Middle East on the Shroud. Did the "forger" travel to the Middle East, colllect some of this dirt, then put it on the Shroud after he made it?
>>536909309>You should reconsider the facts.List said facts supporting claim: "The shroud of turin is fake">>536909409>Who would store it face-onlyPeople who didn't yet know what they had. The Edessa custodians venerated it as the Mandylion, a miraculous image of the living Christ's face because that's the tradition they inherited; the burial-shroud identity is something later viewers discovered, which is exactly why the records show the understanding expanding over time rather than starting complete. You're demanding that everyone instantly recognized a full burial shroud, but the theory's whole point is that they didn't, and the framed face is what that looks like. Additionally, everyone was a devout believer in the Roman Empire when the Shroud was venerated. There was no reason to demand unfolding it.>Never unfolded at all is impossible.Correct. The argument doesn't claim that. It claims it was unfolded: the 944 sermon mentions a side wound, de Clari describes the full body upright in 1203. Attacking imaginary argument; making up imaginary argument = cannot address actual argument; distortion of truth = rejection of truth.>You're fitting facts to the hecking theoryOpposite. "Doubled in four" sits in the source text centuries before anyone proposed a folded shroud, Wilson didn't plant it. He noticed an already-existing word that's bizarre for a napkin and natural for a folded sheet. A pre-existing detail snapping into place is the opposite of constructing facts to fit.The Image of Edessa and Mandylion (same thing) were both supported by Christian Church, same authority as who defined the scriptural canon. Denying their veneration of same relic then using Bible as basis for saying it's forged is nonsensical; contradictory (Bible only trustworthy if body of men affirming it truly guided by Holy Spirit; if same body of men affirm false relic, Bible rendered invalid).
>>536909563>LmaoSo you are just ignoring reality? You think stiff linen from 2000 years ago is the same as cotton sheets that you sleep on?
>>536907992> As in, the New Testament isn't included, but the Jewish talmud also isn't included. The talmud is literally just a collection of over 1000 years of rabbis arguing and debating over what's in the OT(tanahk/torah) It all comes from the same jewish source materials anon.
>>536906203No...
>>536907992https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karaite_JudaismThese guys are basically that and other Jews hate them
>>536907991>>536908247>>536908713>>536909098>>536909354Gay.
>>536906203What was wrong with Adam and Eve that they failed to make the right choice? Something must have been wrong with them, otherwise they wouldn't have failed. What was it?
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx51eegLTY8&list=RDBx51eegLTY8&start_radio=1Watchin' every motion in my foolish lover's gameOn this endless ocean, finally lovers know no shameTurning and returning to some secret place insideWatchin' in slow motion as you turn around and say"Take my breath away"Take my breath awayWatchin', I keep waiting, still anticipating loveNever hesitating to become the fated onesTurning and returning to some secret place to hideWatchin' in slow motion as you turn to me and say"My love, take my breath away"Through the hourglass, I saw youIn time, you slipped awayWhen the mirror crashed, I called youAnd turned to hear you say"If only for today, I am unafraid"Take my breath awayTake my breath awayWatchin' every motion in this foolish lover's gameHaunted by the notion, somewhere there's a love in flamesTurning and returning to some secret place insideWatchin' in slow motion as you turn my way and say"Take my breath away"My love, take my breath awayMy love, take my breath away, my loveYou're mine, take my breath away, yeah, my love
>>536909722They were given free will
>>536909722Argument smuggles in determinism; determinism denies freedom, thus anti-Christian. The argument assumes every failure must have a sufficient prior cause inside the agent, but if some defect made them fall, then it wasn't a free choice at all, it was a malfunction, and the blame lands on the manufacturer, not the creature. Genuine freedom means a will that is good but not yet immutably fixed in the Good can turn from it without being pushed by any flaw; the bare capacity to choose wrongly isn't a defect but the condition of being a creature rather than God, who alone is good by nature. So "what was wrong with them" is a category error as it's just asking why a free choice wasn't determined, which is asking why it was free - thus undermining position that being free is a good thing = evil.
>>536909763You have the worst taste in music
>>536909101>failure to adhere to basic logicYou keep saying that while parroting an impossibility3d objects transposed to a flat surface do NOT work like that.
>>536909855>3d objects transposed to a flat surface do NOT work like that.See >>536909289
>>536909855>3d objects transposed to a flat surface do NOT work like that.Correct, yet the Shroud does work like this. This is why a human forgery is impossible. Very simple. Do you understand?
>>536909645I'm actually dying reading this page>Unlike Rabbinic Jews, Karaites do not practice the ritual of lighting Shabbat candles. They have a differing interpretation of the Torah verse, "You shall not [burn] (Hebrew: bi‘er the pi‘el form of ba‘ar) a fire in any of your dwellings on the day of Shabbat." (Ex. 35:3) In Rabbinic Judaism, the qal verb form ba‘ar is understood to mean "burn", whereas the pi‘el form (present here) is understood to be, not intensive as usual but causative, the rule being that the pi‘el of a stative verb will be causative, instead of the usual hif‘il. Hence bi‘er means "kindle", which is why Rabbinic Judaism prohibits starting a fire on Shabbat. The vast majority of Karaite Jews hold that, throughout the Tanakh, ba‘ar explicitly means "to burn", while the Hebrew word meaning "to ignite" or "to kindle" is hidliq. Accordingly, the mainstream in Karaite Judaism takes the passage to mean that fire should not be left burning in a Jewish home on Shabbat, regardless of whether it was lit prior to, or during the Sabbath. They're literally just jews who refuse to pilpul their way into tricking God.
>>536909645You mamzerim gentiles will never be Jews
>>536909338>lying this hardIt can though. It's literally just a fucking linen cloth that was stained to look like a face. If it was a real burial shroud from 2000 years ago not only would it NOT be a perfectly visible face, it would have long since decated into dust over 1000 years ago. Because that's not how 3d images transposed onto flat surfaces work.
>God puts you in the worst timeline>probably right before the tribulation and antichrist unironically>gives you endless problems>wont give you a gf"dont ask questions, who made the earth?"t-thanks
>>536909955>It can though. It's literally just a fucking linen cloth that was stained to look like a face. If it was a real burial shroud from 2000 years ago not only would it NOT be a perfectly visible face, it would have long since decated into dust over 1000 years ago.All this and it STILL HASN'T BEEN DUPLICATED. Show where it has been. Every attempt using high tech labs is a horrific failure.>Because that's not how 3d images transposed onto flat surfaces work.Again, see>>536909289
>>536909586Again, I don't care how it was forged, just that it is forged. I can't keep repeating myself, anon. >>536909609>Doesn't even deny the ChatGPT accusationFigures. Christians are too stupid to argue on their own merits, so they outsource their thinking to robots.Your explanation still makes no sense. The most powerful relic in Christianity, and its custodians misidentified it so completely they built a new iconographic tradition around it. All because no one even thought to unfold the damn thing before sealing it for display. And when it does finally get unfolded years later in Constantinopole, there's no note of surprise at how it was actually a burial shroud this entire time. If Byzantine Christians were too devout to demand unfolding, they were also too devout to NOT immediately proclaim a full burial shroud of Christ as the most extraordinary thing in the world the moment it was unfolded. >Bible rendered invalidI mean, I'd be okay with that. Sure, why not, the Bible is invalid.
>>536909955>It's literally just a fucking linen cloth that was stained to look like a face.Objectively false. It was not stained. You have done zero research or are actively lying. Why? Find and then explain actual correct mechanism of how image is visible, determined by modern analysis. If unable, I will do so.
>>536909998>Again, I don't care how it was forged, just that it is forged.But it wasn't forged. How can they "forge" something in 600 years ago that we can't "re-forge" today. You aren't making any sense and you didn't answer any of the facts that I put forth
All Christians deserved a kirking
>>536909722imagine you have a child, you purposely put a cookie jar with fresh baked cookies on the table, you tell the child do not eat the cookie. you come back, the child has eaten the cookie, he's a child of course he ate the cookie. you banish him from your house, kill his pet in front of him to make clothing for him, fuck off you sinful shit, enjoy a world filled with niggers, whores, death, all because you set up your child to purposely fail. If that is god, that is a sick fuck and no one should worship him. Its ridiculous on its face.
>>536909899>linen is flat and stiff like cardboard goyChristcucks just cannot fucking stop lying, I have linen fabrics in my house, THAT ISNT HOW LINEN WORKS.
>>536906203No I cant, I dont, I wont, unless you tell me:"My Child, hear me and know me in true knowledge of me" And so I remain steadfast in the wait, until we finally meet again, back home. AmenOnly God does.
>>536910039>Christcucks just cannot fucking stop lying, I have linen fabrics in my house, THAT ISNT HOW LINEN WORKS.Holy fuck you are comparing MODERN LINEN to LINEN from 2000 YEARS AGO??????>The Shroud of Turin is made of 100% flax linen woven in an uncommon 3:1 herringbone twill pattern. When freshly woven, untreated linen—especially in a tight twill—is naturally stiff.
>>536909906>no goy you dont understand it's real because it's physically impossible for it to be realYou have the comprehensive capability of a housefly, and you've already been caught using AI.
>>536910034It is forged because it goes against what the Bible tells us. The how is irrelevant.
>>536910086>It is forged because it goes against what the Bible tells us. The how is irrelevant.Don't care. Bible isn't a 1:1 history book. If you can't explain how it was made, or why we can't duplicate it today, then it's real.
>>536909998> I don't care how it was forged, just that it is forged.Assertion without explanation = failure to adhere to logic, truth = incorrect>Your explanation still makes no sense. The most powerful relic in Christianity, and its custodians misidentified it so completely they built a new iconographic tradition around it. All because no one even thought to unfold the damn thing before sealing it for display. And when it does finally get unfolded years later in Constantinopole, there's no note of surprise at how it was actually a burial shroud this entire time. If Byzantine Christians were too devout to demand unfolding, they were also too devout to NOT immediately proclaim a full burial shroud of Christ as the most extraordinary thing in the world the moment it was unfolded. de Clari, 1203 - doesn't describe a face-icon, he calls it a sydoine, a burial linen, bearing the full figure of Christ, and notes it vanished in the sack. A crusader cataloguing the full-length body on a grave cloth as a marvel is the astonishment; you're treating the absence of the literal word "surprise" as proof, in records that mostly burned in 1204.Your piety runs both ways at once: you grant Byzantines enough devotion to refuse unfolding, but enough modern habit to leave a clean astonished memo. A culture that sealed relics in gold without inventorying them doesn't then file press releases. Either way even if the Edessa-to-Constantinople seam is genuinely thin "we can't trace the history" gets you agnosticism, not forgery. It still doesn't explain the nanometer-deep negative or the real blood, which are what you continually refuse to address.>the Bible is invalid.Initially used Bible as evidentiary basis (>>536907234, >>536907327) now saying Bible is invalid = dishonest, liar = jewish/Talmudic/demonic. Utter refutation.
>>536909919Nevermind I spoke too soon>Many modern Karaites today use a fluorescent or LED lamp powered by batteries, which is turned on prior to ShabbatAt least they made an effort. Hopefully some of them actually down use light at all, that would be kino.
>>536909102>American masters you are literally a jew slave you dumb fuck. mutts have nothing to say, they do what their jewish masters tell them.thats why your dick is mutilated lmao
>>536909999>I'm not lying you arwle>it was real in my mind goyPeople make shit like this all the time with fabric and dye, or with iron-on prints. >>536910034>NO GOY STOP IT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE CANT MAKE LINEN OR STAIN IT TODAY WE JUST CANT OKAY>>536910077>NO GOY YOU DONT UNDERSTAND 2000 YEARS AGO HAND MADE LINEN WAS STIFF AND FLAT LIKE CARDBOARDThey literally cannot stop fucking lying
>>536910168>>NO GOY STOP IT YOU DONT UNDERSTAND WE CANT MAKE LINEN OR STAIN IT TODAY WE JUST CANT OKAYIt's not stained retard. Look it up. They don't know how the image got on there.>They literally cannot stop fucking lyingYou somehow think these "soft" linen sheets you buy at Lands End are the same as the cloths from 2000 years ago? You are so fucking RETARDED
>>536910131>Bible isn't a 1:1 history book.No, but I'd expect it to get the literal burial of Jesus correct. If you're going to be this handwave-y over one of the most important events in the Bible, then why believe in anything that book says at all?>If you can't explain how it was made, or why we can't duplicate it today, then it's real.This is just a logical fallacy. I can't explain how they built the pyramids either, does that mean I believe in Ra now?
>>536910220>No, but I'd expect it to get the literal burial of Jesus correct.Who knows. Still doesn't explain the Shroud.>This is just a logical fallacy. I can't explain how they built the pyramids either, does that mean I believe in Ra now?You're retarded. There are numerous logical hypotheses as to how the pyramids were built. There are none for the Shroud.
>>536910132>Initially used Bible as evidentiary basis (>>536907234, >>536907327) now saying Bible is invalid = dishonest, liar = jewish/Talmudic/demonic. Utter refutation.Man, you do not understand rhetorical devices, do you? Not surprised, you never seemed too bright anyway, since you resort to LLM thinking. I'm done with your ChatGPT ass, the story you're presenting is way too insanely stupid and does not at all align with how real people behave.
>>536906370
>>536910080>it's physically impossible for it to be realAcknowledges impossibility of natural explanation but denies supernatural explanation - cognitive dissonance, going against truth = falsehood>>536910168>People make shit like this all the time with fabric and dye, or with iron-on prints.Objectively false, easily refuted within less than 1 minute of research, yet speaks on topic confidently - likelihood; intentionally dishonest poster.STURP scientific analysis in 1978 ruled out referenced possibilities. There's no dye, no pigment, no paint, no binder anywhere in the image; chemically there's nothing added to the cloth at all; the "image" is just oxidized, dehydrated cellulose, the linen itself discolored. An iron-on or dye transfer deposits a substance that soaks into and around the fibers, but here the coloration is confined to the topmost ~200 nanometers of each fiber, thinner than a wavelength of light, with the fiber interiors and the spaces between threads completely blank. No transfer or dye method produces a coherent image at that depth without any medium, which is why no one, Garlaschelli included, has reproduced all those properties at once.NOTE FOR THREAD READERS; Every shroud of Turin related thread attracts significant attention from posters like this who confidently state same falsehoods - despite immediate refutation available and posted constantly in past; logical implication; coordinated attack by dishonest actors.
>>536910199>NOO GOY NO IT WASNT STAINED EVEN THOUGH WE CLAIM IT WAS STAINED BY BEING ON JESUS' FACE WITH HIS BLOOD AND WITH DIRT FROM THE REFION OY VEYthey really just cannot stop lying for even one post. >NO GOY NO LINEN 2000 YEARS AGO WAS AS STIFF AS CARDBOARD OY VEY>BUT IT WAS SOMEHOW SOFT ENOUGH TO DRAPE OVER A BODYCantantstoptoplyingying
>>536906409the christians enslaved the niggers>"So Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done to him. Then he said: 'Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants he shall be to his brethren.'"- Genesis 9:24-25
>>536906967we don't worship jews
>>536906991the god of the jews is the devil- "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44- "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9
>>536910288Failure to address argumentation, dramatically announcing exit = capitulation, refusal to acknowledge that they never provided a refutation to said argument; will likely repeat process in future threads.
>the shroud you literally cant refute this
>>536910293>NO GOY NO STOP IT IT WAS REAL IN MY MIND>proceeds to start gaslighting and oretending he isnt the one lyingChristcucks, everyone. Truly spiritually semitic.
>>536907163What happens to false prophetsSurah Al-Haqqah (69:44–47)How Muhammed diedSahih al-Bukhari (4428)
>>536910308>>NOO GOY NO IT WASNT STAINED EVEN THOUGH WE CLAIM IT WAS STAINED BY BEING ON JESUS' FACE WITH HIS BLOOD AND WITH DIRT FROM THE REFION OY VEYYou are so retarded. The blood is a stain, but the image of the face and body are not. Science cannot answer how the image got on the cloth. What a fucking retard you are.>>NO GOY NO LINEN 2000 YEARS AGO WAS AS STIFF AS CARDBOARD OY VEYIt wasn't a soft sheet from Pottery Barn you fucking retard.>can't stop lyingSays the guy who keeps saying "it was stained on" but then offers no evidence backing up this claim.
>>536907234>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
>>536906203Sorry, I don't speak Jewish languages
>>536910261>Who knows.I mean, if you want to classify the Bible as undependable, be my guest. It's no skin off my nose.
>>536910356How was it made? Please enlighten us.
>>536907340
>>536910356Note; complete lack of response to coherent and clear argument and citation of evidence (see: STURP scientific analysis in 1978 ruled out referenced possibilities. There's no dye, no pigment, no paint, no binder anywhere in the image; chemically there's nothing added to the cloth at all; the "image" is just oxidized, dehydrated cellulose, the linen itself discolored. An iron-on or dye transfer deposits a substance that soaks into and around the fibers, but here the coloration is confined to the topmost ~200 nanometers of each fiber, thinner than a wavelength of light, with the fiber interiors and the spaces between threads completely blank. No transfer or dye method produces a coherent image at that depth without any medium, which is why no one, Garlaschelli included, has reproduced all those properties at once.) Dishonesty confirmed - dishonesty = anti-truth = incorrect; knowingly incorrect = anti-truth = anti-Christ = jewish/Talmudic/demonic.
>>536907361>low IQthe scientists in your science books are christian
>>536907377
>>536906203if it comes from the middle east, Im not interestedits shitif it comes from kikes, Im not interested, its shitgo choke on a foreskin shlomo
>>536910388>I mean,Nice reddit terms, faggot.>f you want to classify the Bible as undependable,It's a spiritual book, not an exact memoir of historical events at all times. Shroud is real.
>>536910355Jesus never existed, you retarded crossnigger. Fuck your kike god, fuck your buybull and fuck your accursed Jewsus and Holy Whore (Spirit).
>>536907782
>>536907887jesus's Y chromosome comes from the fatherand he wasn't a talmudic kabbalist either (books which weren't written until 600 years after Christ)>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49he's not "a jew", he's god
>>536910443>Jesus never existed,99% of historians disagree with this assessment.
>>536908105in bulgaria, the gnostics were known as bogomilsthey were expelled, because they mocked the god of the physical world, by having gay sexin france they were known as the cathars, and were crusaded againstin england, they were the origin of the term buggery / sodomy, in reference to their bulgarian roots trinity in the Old Testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
>>536908122
>>536908151>for some reason they think they will convince anyone herechristianity is the definition of right wing political ideology- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E2%80%93right_political_spectrum#Origins_in_the_French_Revolution
>>536909253
>>536910443Your misunderstanding of the trinity tells me youre a mohammedan
>>536910036
>>536910383mussolini recognized Vatican City as an independent state and established Catholicism as the state religion of italy
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD5qPWHIDPo&list=RDwD5qPWHIDPo&start_radio=1A fool in loveA crazy situationHer velvet gloveKnocks me down and down and down and downHer kiss of fireA loaded invitationInside her smileShe takes me down and down and down and downAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ahHer moves look goodA touch of desperationFrom where I stoodShe turned my head around, round and roundAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ahIt comes kinda hardWhen I hear your voice on the radio(When I hear your voice on the radio)Taking me back down the road that leads back to youOh, oh, oh29 PalmsI feel the heat of your desert heart(Feel the heat of your desert heart)Taking me back down the road that leads back to youStory of My LifeOne DirectionOh, a burning loveOh, strange infatuationWhy a cold, cold touchMm, what must I do and do and do and do?The heat and the dustIncrease my desolationIn God we trustAlways for you and you and you and youAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ahAh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ahIt comes kinda hardWhen I hear your voice on the radio(When I hear your voice on the radio)Leading me back down the road that leads back to youOh, oh, oh29 PalmsI feel the heat of your desert heart(Feel the heat of your desert heart)Leading me back down the road that leads back to youBaby, now it comes kinda hardWhen I hear your voice on the radio(When I hear your voice on the radio)Leading me back down the road that leads back to youOh, don't you hear me, baby, now?29 PalmsI feel the heat of your desert heart(Feel the heat of your desert heart)Leading me back down the road that leads back to you, you, you, yeah, yeahI'm comin' homeUh-huhGonna get there, gonna get thereDon't ya know, baby?It comes kinda hard
>>536910434>desert religiongod created a garden at the time of creation, not a desert.and if the religion appealed to middle eastern sensibilities, how come they reject it, while europeans embrace it
>>536909949I don't want to be one, I want a long sleep, below the earth and away from you when I die.
>>536910443>memeflagthe fascists have always been christiansee >>536910605
>>536910438>Nice reddit terms, faggot.I'm using the English language, retard. What, you've never used the words 'I mean' ever? >It's a spiritual book, not an exact memoir of historical events at all times. Shroud is real.Okay, if you take away the single glaring problem with the Shroud's existence, then yes, I have no arguments left. But then what? The whole story of Jesus' resurrection depends on the story the Gospels tell. If that's not reliable on an objective level, then what value does the Shroud have? You can't even prove the resurrection actually happened anymore. If the cloth really is supernatural, then it could be supernatural for any number of reasons unrelated to the Christian God.
>>536910443it's funny how atheists deny Jesus but don't deny any other ancient historical figures. The first history of Cleopatra came from Plutarch and was written more than one hundred years after her death. There is more written about Jesus in the one hundred years after his death than there is written about Julius Ceasar. Why don't atheists deny Cleopatra or Julius Ceasar existed?
>>536910496>slopIf you didn't bother to write that, I'm not bothering to read it.
>>536910293>coordinated attack by dishonest actors.Thank you for putting up with obvious gaslighting to get the truth out.
>>536910653>What, you've never used the words 'I mean' ever?Never. It's a r3ddit phrase like "touch grass".> If the cloth really is supernatural, then it could be supernatural for any number of reasons unrelated to the Christian God.Sure thing. >"I don't care if science can't explain it">"maybe it's supernatural but unrelated to Christianity"Listen to yourself you fucking retard.
>>536910656I deny Abraham, Noah, and Moses and if those people weren't real then what Jesus believed was also fake. It's liberating because I have nothing to be mad over.
>>536910656>Why don't atheists deny Cleopatra or Julius Ceasar existed?Atheists entire identity is being an atheist (like Disney adults) and they will ignore all logic to get one over on Christians.Atheists literally embrace trans shit even thought it's against the science they love so much.
>>536910694>NeverBullshit.>Listen to yourself you fucking retard.I don't actually believe any of this, anon, I'm only following your logic. If you don't like it, that's your problem. The Shroud only matters if the resurrection is real, but if the Bible is 'just spiritual' and doesn't have to be historically accurate, then there's no basis to say the resurrection ever happened.
>>536910798>Bullshit.Ok retard.>I don't actually believe any of this, anon, I'm only following your logic.No you're not. I'm saying the Shroud is real and the true image of Jesus Christ. You spouting out complete nonsense to deny that reality.>then there's no basis to say the resurrection ever happened.If you want to say "the resurrection never happened" that is at least more logical than "this item that can't be duplicated must be a forgery"
>>536910768Atheists entire identity is being an atheist (like Disney adults) and they will ignore all logic to get one over on Christians.Of course, it's a product of Judaism, which is a product of cope/anti-truth. Atheists will unironically tell you that all abstract human values are illusions made up in our emergently evolved brain and then sperg out and act like nigger chimps because your "illusion" doesn't adhere to their own made-up subjective illusion, even though everyone's made-up subjective illusions would then logically be equally true/false at the same time. To live so nonsensically requires great cognitive degradation and mental illness.
>>536906203Can someone with ai skills make the shroud of pompompurin?
>>536909102you just cripple yourself every time, retard.
>>536907984>>536907869>earth has no foundationsGravity, chemistry, and all the various rules of our universe? Pulling from my ass here.
>>536910857>Ok retard.This is a redditor phrase too you actual imbecile.>I'm saying the Shroud is real and the true image of Jesus Christ.Who's Jesus Christ? The guy from that book you said isn't historically accurate?
>>536910868Where is the evidence of genetic bottlenecks from the multiple times in the Bible where someone fathers the entire Middle East? This happens with Adam, Noah, and Abraham and the last one should be a doozy since he married his sister and so did his dad.
>>536910932Basically correct, in fact; metaphysical principles; ontological priors to matter which can only be interfaced with via mind; hence, mind prior to matter = mind ultimately governs reality; objective truth and purpose exist = mind governing reality is unified, multiplicity within unity = mind is both unified and relational (trinity)
>>536910936>This is a redditor phrase too you actual imbecile.It's not, but you keep living in you're retarded reality. As proof, reddit is so politically correct that they wouldn't dare use the "r word".>Who's Jesus Christ? The guy from that book you said isn't historically accurate?You are so retarded. There is no doubt that the Man existed. And the Bible is not a historical memoir of complete accuracy. It's sad that you are going down this route.Shroud is real and you lost so badly. As did the other anons that took me on.
>>536910993Actually interesting topic as the very long lifespans and lack of genetic bottlenecks in initial populations are the earliest recorded evidences of the concept of entropy, before entropy was even defined as a concept. Basic gist is that entropy accelerated after the fall, which was a cosmic event; lifespans became shorter and genetic fitness degraded, along with everything else. See modern world for continued evidence; no logical impetus to assign shorter and shorter lifespans and to introduce genetic bottlenecks over time for Biblical history otherwise.
>>536911009>As proof, reddit is so politically correct that they wouldn't dare use the "r word".There's literally subreddits with the word 'retard' in the name, stop embarrassing yourself.>There is no doubt that the Man existed.You just introduced one! Do you not understand the Pandora's Box you opened? Great job, I have no arguments against the Shroud anymore, but by conceding that the Bible can get crucial facts like THE BURIAL OF JESUS wrong, you've given me free reign to question whatever I like about the whole thing. There's no basis to Christianity anymore. The Shroud is irrelevant.
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8&list=RDh0JvF9vpqx8&start_radio=1Hey!Hey!Don't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreWhatever you're looking forHey! Don't come around here no moreI've given up, stopI've given up, stopAh, ah, ah, ooh-oohI've given up, stop, on waiting any longerI've given up, on this love getting strongerDon't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreI don't feel you any moreYou darken my doorWhatever you're looking forHey! Don't come around here no moreI've given up, stopI've given up, stopAh, ah, ah, ooh-oohI've given up, stop, you tangle my emotionsI've given up, honey please, admit it's overHey! Don't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreDon't come around here no moreHey! Don't come around here no moreStop walking down my streetDon't come around here no moreWho did you expect to meet?Don't come around here no moreWhatever you're looking forHey! Don't come around here no moreHey!Honey please (Honey please)Don't come around here no moreWhatever you're looking forDon't come around here no more
>>536911157>There's literally subreddits with the word 'retard' in the name, stop embarrassing yourself.Please name these subreddits.>but by conceding that the Bible can get crucial facts like THE BURIAL OF JESUS wrong, you've given me free reign to question whatever I like about the whole thing. There's no basis to Christianity anymore. The Shroud is irrelevant.You are literally ignoring scientific reality with an object we can see and touch by saying "it's not in the Bible, it must be forged". This is some real sad shit.
>blah blah blah>you gotta worship jews because this lying jew book said soNah and fuck off you spiritual kikes
>>536911204>Please name these subreddits.Read em and weep.https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyretard/>You are literally ignoring scientific reality with an object we can see and touch by saying "it's not in the Bible, it must be forged". Literally who cares? You just conceded the basis of Christianity.
>>536910605Yeah and now we get the Pope on TV every other day, telling us to bring in more immigrantsThanks, Mussolini!
>>536911281>https://www.reddit.com/r/okbuddyretard/You: " literally subreddits"You found one with this description:"~~ okay ~~buddy~~ retard ~~ OkBR is a satirical meme subreddit where we pretend to be 8 year olds who JUST gained internet access and made clueless memes in the early 2010s!">Literally who cares?WHO CARES ABOUT THIS SUPER IMPORTANT CHRISTIAN RELIC THAT CAN'T BE DUPLICATED?You are so fucking SAD.
>>536911346>You found one with this description:Yes, proving that retard is a reddit word, thus making you a redditor, you baldfaced idiot and liar.>WHO CARES ABOUT THIS SUPER IMPORTANT CHRISTIAN RELIC THAT CAN'T BE DUPLICATED?Christian? According to you, Christianity is based on an independable book.
>>536911431>Yes, proving that retard is a reddit word, thus making you a redditor, you baldfaced idiot and liar.You said "subredditS" where are the rest. And again, the one that you found is literally a subreddit where they try to duplicate early 2010s internet posting. Your lack of awarenes is shocking.>Christian? According to you, Christianity is based on an independable book.You are so sad. I said no such thing. WW2 happened, but there's a different between a real history book about WW2 and some light novel based on WW2 characters. The Bible isn't not a history book. It's timeline of the world told through spirituality, themes, metaphors and yes with history mixed in. The fact that this is your entire argument against the Shroud proves you to be a complete fucking dumb dumb.It's amazing how you have given up on the Shroud argument. It's real and you lost.
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmJWD9jQvhc&list=RDKmJWD9jQvhc&start_radio=1If I had wings, I wouldn't do anything beautiful and transcendentNo, I'd get my finger into everything I wantedI'd do all the beautiful thingsThose thing you can't doBecause nobody wants you to be ableTo do the things that make you feel goodLike you can't smoke on the aeroplaneI remember smoking on the aeroplaneI used to love the smoke on the airplaneThose were the golden days of air travelThey would just open the door at the airportAnd you'd walk right out the tarmacAnd up those stairs and light a big cigaretteAnd stick it in the ashtrayAnd the stewardess would come alongAnd if she was hot, you can try to pick her upOnce I was flyingFrom New York to DC,I didn't have much timeAnd the stewardess was smokingShe was a dusky tallAmerican beautyAnd I put down my tray table, snorted a gram of cocainTill I got up my courage to say, "Can I have your phone number?"And she gave me the number, that was the good newsThe bad news was I got too stoned and I lost the numberThe stewardess would've been better than the cocaineI made an error in judgementBut still I remember smoking on the aeroplaneSmoking on the aeroplaneSmoking on the aeroplane, everybody did itThey gather at the back on the way to AustraliaAnd all puff up at once outside the bathroomAnd that's why if I had wingsThat would be a bad idea, hahahahaha, I guessAccording to everything I've been taught about the laws ofEthics and karma and good behavior, hahahahahaIf I had wings, I'd go, yum, yum, yum-yum, yum-yum, yum, ow!I'd have funIf I had wings, I'd have fun(You can't do that)Sunlight on my wings(You can't do that)No more rock critics(You can't do that, you can't do that)No more (You can't do that)European ideas of (You can't do that)Good and bad (You can't do that)Only a vengeful (You can't do that)God does not allow smoking on the aeroplane
>>536911554>You said "subredditS" where are the rest.Holy fuck you are such a nitpicky little shit. https://www.reddit.com/r/retard/There, two. That's plural, if you didn't know. Now how do you intend to dodge how you're a fucking liar and dumbass?>It's amazing how you have given up on the Shroud argument. It's real and you lost.Again. Who cares about the Shroud anymore? The only thing giving it value as a Christian relic comes from a book we just handwaved as independable. This argument's gone way past one odd cloth. Why would I attack the Shroud when you've opened the door to attack the whole religion? You tore off my hand only to lose your head, and you're calling it victory. Your thought process is so baffling.
>>536910999>Basically correctThe best kind of correct.A friend of mine once asked why i thought the trinity was logical. My only response was how we're talking about a being that exists outside of our universe, outside the rules of space, time, and continuity itself. I'm glad he decided to make it easy for us by only giving us three instances.
>>536911751>There, two. That's plural, if you didn't know. Now how do you intend to dodge how you're a fucking liar and dumbass?It's more 1. The first one was a duplicate of meme posting. But I will admit sure, a "retard" subreddit exists, to my surprise.> Who cares about the Shroud anymore? It's one of the mostly hotly debated items in history you fucking retard. Every year someone has some new "scientific take" on it.>The only thing giving it value as a Christian relic comes from a book we just handwaved as independable. Again, never said that.>Why would I attack the Shroud when you've opened the door to attack the whole religion? You tore off my hand only to lose your head, and you're calling it victory. Your thought process is so baffling.You are legit so fucking retarded. I can't explain myself any clearer. You are like a 3 year old.>Me: Bible is 1:1 historically accurate>You: NOW THAT THE BIBLE HAS BEEN DEEMED INACCURATE WHO CARES ABOUT THE SHROUD?Shroud is real and if you offer no evidence otherwise in your next post, then that will be your last (you).
>>536911921>Bible is 1:1 historically accurate*ISNT
If God and his ways are too difficult for me to understand, he should either simplify them or not expect me to worship him. It is extremely unsafe and irresponsible of God to expect me to worship something I can't understand. If you take a moment to think about this, you'll realize how obvious it is.
>>536910321You do.
>>536908611>logic defines Christian philosophical systemNo lol
>>536910403>LLM responseThis nigga cant even make his own arguments and is trying to cope about us lmao
>>536911921>But I will admit sure, a "retard" subreddit exists, to my surprise.You made such a mess over me using 'I mean' only to end up like this. Fuck you, anon.>Shroud is real and if you offer no evidence otherwise in your next post, then that will be your last (you).Yeah, I'm getting tired of making the same arguments too. If you really see no issue with your holy book getting important things wrong, then there's not much more I can do to convince you. But I do want to say, of all the desperate arguments I've seen trying to defend the Shroud, no one ever tried to argue against the very gospels the whole relic hinges on. This is such a mind-boggling stance to me.
>>536912127Says the guy who ran away >>536910375
>>536912139>You made such a mess over me using 'I mean' only to end up like this. Fuck you, anon.It's still a r3ddit phrase, like "touch grass", oh is "touch grass" not a r3ddit phrase?>Yeah, I'm getting tired of making the same arguments too. IYou haven't one. We are debating a real object that we can see and examine right now and you aren't even addressing the facts.Last (you). You are so fucking retarded that it's unbelievable.
>>536910999>objective truth and purpose existYup. Christianity isn't that though
>>536912238>oh is "touch grass" not a r3ddit phrase?That one is. But 'I mean' is just English, anon. I've seen it used in shows and books.
>>536906203> 30pbtidOP is a narcissist incel.
>>536906203Looks like a photo-negative sfumato style drawing.
>>536912285You can't even comprehend blacks committing more crimes than whites per capita.
>>536911921>>Me: Bible is 1:1 historically accurateZero evidence of a mass Exodus of Hebrews from Egypt as the bible described
>>536912360>Looks like a photo-negative sfumato style drawing.How as this done 600+ years ago?
>>536912379Sure I can
>>536912393>Zero evidence of a mass Exodus of Hebrews from Egypt as the bible describedSee >>536911939Fucking retard.
>>536912408Then why did you RUN AWAY and not reply to this post in the last thread?
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnDBowy9gNU&list=RDcnDBowy9gNU&start_radio=1I'd invite you back to my placeIt's only mine because it holds my suitcaseIt looks home to me alrightBut it's a hundred miles from yesterday nightMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceAnother key for my collectionFor security I race for my connectionBird in a flying cage you'll never get to know me wellThe world's my oyster, a hotel room's a prison cellMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceI'll invite you back to my placeIt's only mine because it hold my suitcaseIt looks like home to me alrightBut it's a hundred miles from yesterday nightMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcaseIs it me, the man with the stranger's faceMust I be the man in a suitcase
>>536906409Praty seething.
>>536912417Glad we agree :^)>>536912444Runaway from what?
>>536912393There will be zero historical evidence that you were ever a woman. Some archaeologist will dig up the skeleton of a man under a tombstone marked with a man's name and no one will even realize that you delusionally wanted everyone to pretend that you were a woman. tl;dr- You lost, tranny.
>>536912517>Glad we agree :^)We never disagreed. You're doing it again. Concocting these insane scenarios.>Runaway from what?That post. It was made for you and YOU ran away.
>>536912602>We never disagreedKek OK >>536912602>That postWhat post?
>>536912165>y-y-you ran away because you don't nolife a vietnamese fly fishing forumChristcucks really are this fucking stupid lmao
>>536912594>There will be zero historical evidence that you were ever a womanCorrect :^)
>>536912602>ran away ran away bix nood mup de doHello jewcobstein anthonygold mc.queerberg
>>536912627>What post?The post I put in the pic, retard.GHOST OF MESAthen my reply.You never replied and ran away. Now you are just playing ignorant because I chased you away in that thread.
>>536912602I don't know why you bother, I'm pretty sure Ghost is just a troll saying whatever to annoy people. I'm also pretty sure he uses ChatGPT to answer for him sometimes
>>536912649Yeah that retard is terminally online and mentally ill like a tranny >>536912675>ran awayFrom? Why are you seething over and old thread? Get a life faggot. Not my fault your feelings are so hurt you can't let go of internet beef lol
so uh.. whats it like being a jeet body pillow?
>>536912649>>y-y-you ran away because you don't nolife a vietnamese fly fishing forumYet you are still here? But you stopped arguing the points because you lost.
>>536912714Not my fault you morons have shit arguments that ultimately end in personal feelings and opinions
>>536906203this belongs on x/
>>536912720>From?This thread (see pic)>Why are you seething over and old thread? Seething? YOU ran away? Then YOU asked me "when did I ever deny black crime rate" and I posted the evidence. SAD
>>536912720You namefag on an anonymous board, you're actually asking for it.
>>536912766>Not my fault you morons have shit arguments that ultimately end in personal feelings and opinionsYou ran away like a faggot, same way you will in this thread.
>>536912766Buddy, I'm atheist too. You always just sound retarded, even though I 'agree' with you on a surface level.
>>536912733>stinky jeet hands touch the canvas once>Saar saar we are Jesus saar your religion fake saar!
>>536912733Materials for the cloth came from the silk road from India. Makes 100% sense.
>>536910375>blood is a stain, but the image of the face and body are not. Science cannot answer how the image got on the clothNot yet. The blood marks contain traces of red ochre and vermilion pigments mixed with a gelatin medium. They contend that the cloth is a medieval forgery and the "blood" is actually paint.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.13867?af=R
whats it like knowing that your holiest relic is a known and admitted forgery, and that they actually caught forger when it was originally produced? and instead of telling you, even went so far as to pay people to fake miracles in its presence, to better swindle gullible goyim like you out of their money?look anons, i dont want to be the asshole who shatters your entire perception of reality, thousands of years of your family's history or whatever. but its 2026 years later, and theres simply no excuse to not know that jewish things are jewish.
>>536912825>YOU ran away?From?>>536912845Asking for what?>>536912847>You ran awayFrom? I keep asking this but you never articulate what it is I supposedly ran away from.>>536912851>You always just sound retardedOh OK. Well you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>536912936See >>536912825There's no point in arguing with you because you will just run away.
>>536913007>There's no point in arguing with youOK, I accept your concession
>>536912986>From?Me. In the thread that I keep posting images of.>From? I keep asking this but you never articulate what it is I supposedly ran away from.I keep posting images.THIS THREAD:>>536912825 (image)and this is your last reply, followed by my reply:>>536912602 (image)
I recognize only one Master worthy of worship and he sits upon a Golden Throne.
>>536913042>I keep posting imagesOf? I don't see the argument
>>536912859why would you let a stinky jeet touch your holiest relic?>>536912861why would you let a stinky jeet provide the silk to wrap your god?just be smarter than jews. it isnt asking much.
>>536913032>OK, I accept your concessionMore headcanon from the guy who keeps saying "ran away from what?" after I keep posting evidence.
>>536913073>Of? I don't see the argumentRead the image >>536912602Your post on topMy reply on bottomYOU then stopped replying in the thread.
>>536913087>I keep posting evidenceOf what? There's no argument you've made for me to run away from lol
>>536912986>Well you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinionsYeah, lines like this are exactly what I'm talking about. If you're a troll, you're a damn good one. If not, holy fuck are you slow on the uptake.
>>536913032i like you, but you gotta stop saying that because you sound like a total fag.
>>536913079>that picSo that Archbishop didn't get the forgers name or how he did it? Got it. The Church changes their mind on whether a relic is real or not all the time, retard.>why would you let a stinky jeet provide the silk to wrap your god?Materials were hard to come by back then.
>>536910469He's literally a Jew. Let's see his y chromosome.
>>536913111>stopped replying in the threadTo what?
>>536913121>Of what? There's no argument you've made for me to run away from lolThen why did you run away? >>536913111
>>536912750It's called break time retard, you'd know what that was if you had a job.
>>536913173>To what?My post.AGAIN>>536912602GHOST OF MESA post on topMY REPLY on the bottomYOU never replied to my reply and left the thread.
>>536913144>>536913151Hey fags, you're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions But I'll keep doing what I want :^)
>>536913198>It's called break time retard, you'd know what that was if you had a job.You need a break time from a forum? Fucking retard.
>>536912072The only path to salvation is through Jesus Christ and God will forgive your sins if you just repent and ask for his forgiveness. That's it. That's all you really need to know.If you are too retarded to understand such basic concepts, then you are just a dumb beast, and dumb beasts don't have souls so it's all a moot point anyway.>If you take a moment to think about this, you'll realize how obvious it is.No, I just realize that you are a retarded narcissist with illusory superiority who isn't actually as smart or clever as he thinks he is.
>>536913176>Then why did you run away?Why do you assume I ran away? Does that make yoi feel like a winner?
>>536913199>YOU never replied to my replyAnd? Am I required too?
>>536913206>But I'll keep doing what I want :^)Based retard. Godspeed, anon
>>536913233>Why do you assume I ran away?Because >>536912602This was you LAST POST in the thread and you DIDN'T REPLY to my reply. What would you call it?
>>536912750>you stopped arguing points because you lostNice attempt at gaslighting, I stopped arguing points because you jew worshipping shitskins couldn't argue with my points and kept trying to dismiss them and gaslight with LLMs. >>536912859>Accidentally admits its a jeet forgery>copes in HD
>>536913219>You need a break time from a forum?Says the clown who us seething over an old thread and saved arbitrary screen shots lol
>>536906203https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IfHDi-2EA&list=RDk9IfHDi-2EA&start_radio=1"And I heard as it were the noise of thunderOne of the four beasts saying, come and seeAnd I saw, and behold a white horse"There's a man going around taking namesAnd he decides who to free and who to blameEverybody won't be treated all the sameThere will be a golden ladder reaching downWhen the man comes aroundThe hairs on your arm will stand upAt the terror in each sip and in each supWill you partake of that last offered cup?Or disappear into the potter's groundWhen the man comes around?Hear the trumpets, hear the pipersOne hundred million angels singingMultitudes are marching to the big kettledrumVoices calling and voices cryingSome are born and some are dyingIt's Alpha and Omega's kingdom comeAnd the whirlwind is in the thorn treeThe virgins are all trimming their wicksThe whirlwind is in the thorn treeIt's hard for thee to kick against the pricks'Til Armageddon, no shalam, no shalomThen the father hen will call his chickens homeThe wise man will bow down before the throneAnd at his feet, they'll cast the golden crownsWhen the man comes aroundWhoever is unjust, let him be unjust stillWhoever is righteous, let him be righteous stillWhoever is filthy, let him be filthy stillListen to the words long written downWhen the man comes aroundHear the trumpets, hear the pipersOne hundred million angels singingMultitudes are marching to the big kettledrumVoices calling and voices cryingSome are born and some are dyingIt's Alpha and Omega's kingdom comeAnd the whirlwind is in the thorn treeThe virgins are all trimming their wicksThe whirlwind is in the thorn treeIt's hard for thee to kick against the pricksIn measured hundred weight and penny poundWhen the man comes around"And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beastsAnd I looked and behold, a pale horseAnd his name that sat on him was DeathAnd Hell followed with him"
>>536913244>And? Am I required too?Why would you go back and forth for an hour then run away?
>>536913206well i just thought you should know, youre giving off total fag vibes with statements like thatand if it were me, id want to know. you dont want to be that kid in 8th grade wearing a rugrats shirt to school do you?
>>536913219No, I came here on my break from my job you fucking retardHoly shit I knew christcucks were fucking retards, but we're really reaching new lows here.
>>536913249>What would you call it?Taking care of IRL that was more important?I know you won't understand this >>536913280See above
>>536913259>I stopped arguing points because you jew worshipping shitskins couldn't argue with my pointsSee >>536910375I argued every point you made.
>>536913265>Says the clown who us seething over an old threadI won. Just pointing out you running away like a homo.
>>536910311>picThe richest slave owners were Jewish.>the christians enslaved the niggersOpposite, niggers enslaved christians.
>>536913311>no no no no goy i replied by lying oy veyThat other anon kept pasting the same LLM cope response, stop pmaying dumb.
>>536913297>well i just thought you should knowThank you anon. Have a pile of bees
>>536913310>Taking care of IRL that was more important?Sure thing. Ok, lets continue right now:>I've never suggested this at all you fucking liar.UGH. You really can't read or comprehend what you can read. I will explain it for your feeble brain>You: There are more Christian troons than atheists troons because Christians outnumber atheists>Me: You sound those leftists that say "THERE ARE ACTUALLY MORE WHITE CRIMINALS, JUST IGNORE THAT BLACKS COMMITE 75% OF CRIME!">You: I never said blacks commit 75% of cirme!I gave an example and somehow you crafted it as "he's saying I said that!">You've never proven all atheist support troons/leftist shit. Just 78% of it.
>>536913354>That other anon kept pasting the same LLM cope responseI'm not following other anons. Prove that the image was STAINED on. You can't.
>>536913325>I wonKek we got a big winner here! Winners don't seeth over old threads bud lmao
>>536913346>jews owned the slaver ships>jews owned the slave markets>jews owned over half the plantations>christcucks fought and died to protect the jewish slave ships from berber pirates>christcucks fought and died to keep niggers in the US instead of sending them back
>>536913373>Ok, lets continue right now:But I thought you won? I guess not lol
>>536913405>Kek we got a big winner here! Winners don't seeth over old threads bud lmaoI'm celebrating. YOU ran away. Lets continue it now? Oh wait, will something "more important" come up at 5AM? >>536913373
>>536913346>Opposite, niggers enslaved christians.What did he mean by this
>>536913437>I'm celebratingI bet lmao
>>536913422>But I thought you won? I guess not lolI won because you ran away, but you are insisting you didn't and had to do something "more important". If you won't respond, then yes I 100% won.>I've never suggested this at all you fucking liar.UGH. You really can't read or comprehend what you can read. I will explain it for your feeble brain>You: There are more Christian troons than atheists troons because Christians outnumber atheists>Me: You sound those leftists that say "THERE ARE ACTUALLY MORE WHITE CRIMINALS, JUST IGNORE THAT BLACKS COMMITE 75% OF CRIME!">You: I never said blacks commit 75% of cirme!I gave an example and somehow you crafted it as "he's saying I said that!">You've never proven all atheist support troons/leftist shit. Just 78% of it.
>>536913360have a male bird doing a mating dance
>>536913437>come up at 5AM?Ita 2:15 here and I get up at 5:30 for work
>>536913462>I bet lmaoNo response. You don't understand black crime per capita.
>>536913389I already did as did another anon, the exact same effect can be had with dye, or with heat treatment. Another anon also proved its not real because that isn't how a 3d image imposed on a cloth surface works.
>>536913420Show me proof of your claims. All the christcucks were the ones that did the trading, even if the Jews owned it who bought them? Such liars.
>>536913469>I won because you ran awayYou're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>536913437>5AMYou've been arguing through the night? Holy fuck anon, I think you're a dumbass but 4chan isn't worth the lost sleep
>>536913490>Ita 2:15 here and I get up at 5:30 for workGreat then you have plenty of time to respond. >>536913469
