Is the Missing 411 guy truly a fraud?He appears to be a decent individual and doesn't seem overly eager to sell books.the entire time, Joe Rogan gives off an impression that he doesn't take him seriously. Joe seems to frame the whole show in a way that suggests David Paulides is a confirmed fraud, while David appears to be attempting to defend his reputation. Even though Joe started his whole podcast career speaking about mysterious topics like this. There are countless channels on YouTube and even discussions on /x/ where people immediately express disdain for him, and any conversation about him paints him as a crazy schizo. Why does nobody seem to like him?
I saw something in the woods when I was young my family and friends also saw something similar i don't think he's lying
>>536916310Joe Rogan is a cia nigger whether he knows it or not. He has been influenced by Jews and cia niggers so much so in fact they have programmed him to respond to topics they want in certain ways Paulides sometimes does come off as disingenuous but I think that’s just former cops in general. He does believe there is something nefarious happening in state parks but I don’t believe he thinks it’s Bigfoot and probably hated that so much but gave up and just goes “eh maybe it is interdimensional Bigfoot” while practically rolling his eyes.But Joe does seems like a total bitch lately. I don’t know if he’s trying to dial it back and seem more “reasonable” by appearing more skeptical or those cia niggers really did a number on him.
>>536916310His criteria is a little odd for the boxers and berry bushes and stuff. That being said there’s either a network of elites hunting humans for sport in our national park or cryptids are real.
>>536916310He makes up shit all the time & has never produced evidence of anything ever.>>536916615No evidence.
>>536916310If Joe Rogan wants me to believe that guy is a fraud then I think he isn't.
>>536916310There is something to it, but it is either one of two things. >1) There is some weird spooky dimensional shit going on innawoods, particularly the North American wilderness... I have spent a lot of time there, anecdotally, energy can change place to place, from serene to eerie, despite it being a beautiful day; or>2) Serial killers using national parks and un-self-aware retards as a playground
>>536916449My cousin and I saw this in the woods https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=keoE0PpYO-EI'm not even into paranormal or anything but I saw it running and my cousin who is a logger saw it waving at him and got the fuck out of there. It looks exactly like this video people say it's fact but I swear I saw it.
>>536916310I thought this thread was going to be about how dumbcucked rogan is now, and so it became.>>536916695This guy gets it.
>>536916749You saw the shadow people? Was it in the apalacians?
>>536916695This summed up what >>536916502was trying to say a lot more eloquently
>>536916749There's not enough there to be sure if it's a Bigfoot or a man in a suit
>>536916310>is the jew a fraud?hmm dont know anon hard one
>>536916310I mean he is a grifter but do you really want to attack a guy who is giving the message of "don't wonder around the woods, retards."
If Rogan is trying to manipulate his audience into not taking him seriously, then you should take him seriously. He did the same shit to Theo Von recently. And does it Kurt Metzger and Sam Tripoli all the time. And those guys have been right about everything.
>>536917546>If Rogan is trying to manipulate his audience into not taking him seriously,How exactly did he do that, I didn't see it
>>536917094No we saw it all in one location at different times in Wales. My cousin logged the entire area so it's no longer there.>>536917234It's completely void of color like an inhumane black. The one I saw was taller and running very fast I heard a twig snap and saw it running very fast in the woods the one I saw honestly could have been a big foot but it was void of features freakt as fuck I had this unearthly feeling of extreme danger I can't explain it I still think about it today.
>>536917587I dont know faggot. Didn't watch it. I rarely ever listen to rogans slop show.
>>536916310I watched a 5 minute clip of this episode and Paulides was doing that thing where he talks but doesn't actually answer Joe's question.
>>536917668I'm not saying Bigfoot isn't real, there's a lot of reason to think it was but the video is inconclusive.If you really saw one you're a lucky guy
>>536917668Guy I know saw them in the apalacians, said he felt an impending sense of dread looking at them, his were just standing but no matter how he looked at them they always looked the same, like some foliage or trees in older games that follow the camera
>>536917668Beings from another dimension. Also known as djinns. They could be good or evil.
>>536917587Honestly I watched the whole podcast, because I find the 411 stuff interesting, and I didnt get the vibe once he wasnt taking him seriously. He said a couple times>Lets put on the tinfoil hatBut honestly this 411 guy for the longest time wouldn't really lean in any one direction, he wouldn't say its bigfoot or aliens, he basically kept saying to draw your on conclusions (Though his most recent film he is basically saying its aliens flat out) A Joe may know that anout him so he is saying that stuff to get David to go out on a limb more.
>>536917810I could see it's face there was no eyes or nothing like the video I linked i don't think it was big foot it had no hair.>>536917828That's crazy I felt the same similar feeling to being a kid and a stranger trys to kidnap you or something worst feeling I've ever had, felt like I was in severe danger.. my dad saw it as a child he said mum there is a man in the woods and they all ran to the car and she told him not to approach it. My cousin said him and his team logged that area and one day saw the black figure waving at him and him and his team got the fuck out of there fast.
>>536917964They want you to approach them i think. That's why I feel like some of those 411 cases are related to them.
>>536916310>Joe RoganImagine listening to/watching this guy's content in 2026 LMAO
He's a retard more than he's a fraud, you can gauge this from watching any video at all on his own Youtube channel.
>>536917972>Lets put on the tinfoil hatSo it's just Redditor autists seeing trouble where there's none, like when that mentalist was on, he figured out Joe's PIN, Joe said "I don't like this haha" and Reddit went on fire with "did you see how Joe threatened that guy, wtf is his problem"
>>536916310You can't engage with the missing 411 topic anymore because it just becomes a David Paulides circlejerk. >hey this person went missing and it's kind of weird>YEAH WELL DAVID PAULIDES FUCKED MY DOG AND SHAT ON MY FLOOR HOW ABOUT THAT????I don't give a fuck about Daivd Paulides. I care about the missing persons cases.
>>536918030>it had no hair.That's fucking weird. The one in the video does have hair I think.I do find Bigfoot plausible but I don't think that Skinwalkers, Dogmen and all that shit are real, American forests would be like some fairy tale book then.
>>536917810He is clearly not talking about Bigfoot
>>536916310Fraud or not there's some creepy ass fucking shit out there in legit wilderness especially in the western US
>>536918317I'm not really into paranormal and all that stuff I find it fake but what we saw was real i have no idea what the fuck it is. And honestly I don't want to find out
>>536918108Idk what's so confusing about your story for people here lol. There are numerous confirmed reports of people going missing in thin air without a trace. Like the geriatric hunter on a hunting trip with his family that went missing like less than 50 feet from multiple family members without a shred of any of his stuff ever being seen again. Or the boy scout on a camping trip that went missing in broad daylight walking a couple hundred feet from a pond there campsite and again not a shred of his stuff was ever seen again even though he was walking with a fishing pole amongst other things. They didn't even find a scrap of clothing.
>>536918213Back in 2020 just before the pandemic, there was an episode with his CIA handler, and he basically stops mid thought, changes the subject to deepfakes and shit, and this was when there was rumblings about frazzledrip was floating around the deep web... People find the dumbest things to latch onto, but dont grab onto things that have actual meat on the bones. Like they were talking about some random subject and he basically cuts it off and goes.>Ya know Joe deepfakes are wild! You can make important people look like they are doing wild and weird things!
>>536918442My feeling is that they are some kinda of dimensional being that take you if you get too close. I never shit my pants so hard in all my life when I saw it. Honestly I thought I was tripping balls when I saw it I was 12 and my family explained what happened when they saw it. It's definitely worldly though because it broke a branch that's how I saw it. Was looking into a pond and snap turn around see this big black void entity running super fast.Weirdly enough I saw it next to a stream like the dudes video the two cases you talk a out was also near water same with the dude in the video I linked. Maybe there is a connection
>>536918442Whata the second d case called with the fishing rod?The other one is tomorrow messik lily pond i think
>>536918949Garret BardsleyThe other one is from New York, you got it right I think.
>>536918784David Paliedies famously talks about bodies of water being one of the patterns in disappearances.
>>536918442>people going missing in thin air without a trace>old guy was out of sight, went into a fugue state & walked off, he's old so he didn't make much noise nor respond to people calling to himHardly a case of disappearing into thin air.He was recovering from surgery, had heart problems, half blind, hard of hearing, & was 82.They were in a very dense forest, & while it seems unlikely no one would be able to find him given nor would a search dog given that he couldn't have walked off more than few miles, it's entirely possible you just don't find them because they're too obscured & you inevitably miss the small spot where their body would be.Many of these cases with similar circumstances do end up getting solved, & it's always a case of them simply not finding the body at the time.
>>536918784Bro, you almost got disappeared.
>>536919587Wow weird as fuck
>>536923281I don't think so, I do think of you approach them something bad happens
>>536916310I don't know about Paulides, but I can tell you that there's something out there that isn't human. I used to spend weeks or months in the dense forest. Once, when I was walking to get water from a stream, the entire forest suddenly went silent. I mean completely silent. I thought I had gone deaf for a second, but I could still hear my footsteps. Then, I felt a dread unlike anything I had ever felt before, as if I were about to die. I took cover behind a tree and started scanning the forest. Then, I saw something moving 10–15 meters away. It was like a ghost or the predator from the movie; you could see the "invisible" creature moving. But it wasn't making any step sounds or moving the foliage. It stopped, and I could have sworn it was looking straight at me. I stood there and started praying in my head. Whatever it was started moving again and disappeared into the forest. It was as if it were just hovering and passing through. I was so still that I was barely breathing. After a few minutes that felt like hours, the sounds of the forest came back, and the feeling of dread started to fade. I never went back there.
>>536916310I think he's a bullshitter but the phenomenon is real and has been going on long before he started talking about it. Here's an example with pets from back in the day that sounds identical to the stuff people talk about in these 411 cases that I thought was interestinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtzAnTV6HgA
>>536916310rogan can't be overly biased or he'll come off as another alex jones.. he gave paulides airtime so people would hear what he has to say. Rogan knows ayys are probably kidnapping people and he's trying to tell the public without too much flak. You're a retard if you cant see this
>>536916615You ever hear of the nuclear sponge strategy? Throughout the Great Plains states there are underground missile silos with nuclear icmbs. We know about this because there are hundreds of them and the government wanted the Soviet’s to know about them. The point was so that the soviets would be forced to waste their warheads on empty lands hitting these silos. So throughout the Great Plains there are all these small underground bases manned by a few soldiers each. What do you think is in the national parks? I won’t speculate as to their purpose, but the fact that paulides links disappearances to natural cave structures could be explained by undisclosed underground facilities. DUMBs have long been been theorized. Why wouldn’t they have entrances in unpopulated national forest and BLM land the federal government owns?
>>536917668I was driving to the store a few years ago and I saw a 60-70 year old woman in a sun dress walking with her back to me. Something was off about how she was moving, so I slowed down in case she was in distress and needed help. When I passed by her I couldn’t see a face. It was like a censorship bar blacking out the whole face. My brain didn’t understand it and I kept driving and went to the store without stopping, trying to make sense out of it. It wasn’t a mask, it was just nothing.
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>>536916502It's his jew wife. Behind every good man is a good woman....implying that bad men have behind them bad [ ] fill in the blank kids.
>>536918108You hear a lot of stories about the woods where people hear strange things. One that is most common is hearing a voice asking for help or saying hello over and over. When someone says help or hello, you’re likely to move towards the voice and respond. That sounds like a bird call to me. A predator drawing in prey by mimicking prey species sounds and behaviors. You said it waved at you. Well, when people wave at eachother they tend to approach one another afterwards. Same thing as a bird call.
>>536924468No movement at all where was she and standing by what
>>536917668Are not the mountains of Wales the very same mountain range of Appalachians?
>>536916310Rogan is a plant
>>536924856Yeah it was trying to bait us to go towards it but we all shit ourself and ran to the car we'll my cousin did but I ran towards my parents when I saw it running no person was up there it's a 20 minute drive one road only our car was there
>>536924907Ours aren't as big but the one we was at was big and thick forest
>>536916449The story of the kid who got snatched walking back from the lake right near his family. That family lives in my neighborhood just down the street. I believe it.
op yeshttps://www.youtube.com/@TheMissingEnigma/videosthis guy does the same content and goes to visit the places people go missing and you can tell from most of it that wilderness is just fucking massive and easy to get lost in.
>>536916310>is the guy on a glow rogan a grifter fraud looking for a platformyes
>>536925084The garret one? That's crazy
>>536924905I was driving by in my car. She was on the far side of the street walking with her back to me on the sidewalk. I don’t know what drew my attention to her just that something was off about the whole thing. It’s a barren stretch of road and it was a hot day. You wouldn’t expect an older woman on foot to be there because she had a long way to walk to get anywhere. Just little cues like that adding up to tell me something was wrong.
David is somebody who misrepresents the facts to fit his specific framework of clusters etc. A good amount of the cases in his books have mundane explanations, and have been sensationalized or outright lied about. He's also a known asshole/piece of shit human being.This doesn't mean that nothing is happening and everything he's saying isn't real, something is. It means that whetever's happening is not as prevent as he's making it out to be, and he's misrepresenting a good portion of it to sell his books.
>>536916310He's made some shit up and also included people in his books that were later found alive (he omitted this though).In the Dennis Martin case he claimed a family saw a feral man carrying him down the hill and that later Green Berets went in and had a gunfight with feral humans and a few bigfeet that were supposedly eating tons of people every day.
>>536916310I find disappearances spooky and fascinating, but I believe there is a reasonable explanation for all of them, even if that reason is really elusive and hard to pin down. I've read all the 411 books and while collecting all of the stories and circumstances is valuable, Paulides tends to do the bare minimum of research and leaves out contributing factors like a missing person's drug habits or mental state. There are youtubers that take it upon themselves to request police casefiles on 411 cases, and while it's sometimes denied they often are able to get ahold of documents Paulides apparently didn't bother with that paint a much clearer picture than the 411 books.So I don't think he's a fraud, I just think he's trying to imply there's some kind of spooky supernatural element where there's not. And the "patterns" he identifies are some schizo shit. Like no shit people disappear near water, that's where people go camping.
Idk if he's a fraud but you can tell he doesn't think right. He's not a person I'd want to be involved with.
>>536925348Don't approach shit like this is how you go missing
>>536917964Too many stories of weird creatures seen by the military. Probably some demon the perverts in the military summoned and the missing people were kidnapped by our government for these human sacrifice rituals to summon even more.
>>536917972Because he knows whose snatching the people. Our government so he tries to talk in code.
>>536916310a white, basketball-sized ball of light hovering 3-ft off the ground floated out of the woods and approached my friend and me when I was 16 in 2001. maybe 2002
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>>536926194The fuck is that. Also no the thing I saw was more like the video I linked bigger much bigger atleast 12 feet.
>>536924159/thisAnd we know they get up to the same actions in these DUMBs as Epstein island.
>>536924468Those stories are super common in Hawaii. My friend has a similar one of the lady in white hitchhiker. Hitchhiking is common there and he saw her and pulled over expecting her to get in and nothing happened. He got out to check and nobody was there.
>>536916310The government doesn't talk about shit it has no control over or understanding of.
One of my Mormon customers told me a story about a wildlife biologist who worked for the state of AZ. He was on a multiday survey hiking through the San Carlos area mountains hiking and camping with his dog. He had stopped one evening, made camp, built a fire to heat up and boil water to eat his dehydrated dinner. Afterwards he was reading in front of his tent with his dog at his feet. As others have described, everything went dead silent. His dog alerted and began to growl and then whimpered and ran into his tent. He'd never seen that dog afraid of anything in his life. He went into the tent to comfort the dog and heard something hit his tent. It was almost dark at this point, so he went out with a flashlight and walked in circles around the camp. No sounds, no tracks, no movement, so he went back into the tent where the dog was trembling in the corner. Something hits the tent again. It sounds like a pebble or an acorn. So he keeps comforting the dog. This went on for hours and he finally drifted off to sleep. He woke in the morning, opened/unzipped the tent and a deer skull with most of the flesh removed from it was sitting right in front of the tent. He later found the body of the deer ripped apart like no animal carcass he'd ever seen killed in nature. No tracks. No sign of anything that had done it. To this day, he still has no idea what was out there that night.
>>536926279Ghosts of Carmel Maine has the freakiest shadow person footage. It was before AI. I was hoping to find a gif but Google is lame. https://youtube.com/shorts/WOiKf8lrFus
>>536916310He’s a well poisoning glownigger. Hes a “former cop” lmfao These are one of these strange topics like flat Earth or aaays the globohomos are putting out there to keep people’s minds busy with worthless ((mysteries)) while actual worthwhile games are taking place.>tl;dr it’s boomer retard slop
>>536926701A Deer skull left behind is the mark of a Native American Witch or "Owl".
>>536927241He's either retired or was drummed out of the force for being too candid, you shouldn't dismiss his investigation.
>>536927241>So people don't talk about the REAL SHIT!What like how blue team got two more points than red team and hollywood is bad or something?
>>536916310It's funny listening to cityiots talk about the mysteries of the woods. Kek, you can tell just by the way they talk about seeing weird shit. Ever seen a deer hang itself? Fox's sound like a child screaming for help, opossums dragging a puppy from the local farm into the woods. Once saw a bear walking around like a drunk man in a fur suit. Hell last season we watched a deer walk up and start chewing on a dead dog in the middle of the field. So sorry, cityniggers will need to show something more than "I saw strange happenings innawoods" to get anyones attention.
>>536927855If you have followed the thread it's mostly talk about the supernatural beings known by the previous people of their respective areas, be it America, or Britain.
>>536918442>they didn't fins anything!!!You don't realize how big of an area you'd have to search to use that as an argument.
>>536916449Did you go missing?
>>536923847The shit I saw had me saying Hail Marys out loud for the entire speedwalk back to the RV. We all saw it.
>>536916310yea he's a fraud. he frequently omits out misrepresents facts, or simply lies. there's a youtube channel called lorelodge that he's trying to sue for exposing him
>>536925084what story is that? link pls
>>536929425yes
>>536931730Missing Enigma is probably the best, most credible missing persons channel. No sensationalism & he sometimes travels to the location & documents.
>>536935200I just watched him goto the location of Garrett Bardsley, the location looks super easy to get lost in, at first i thought wow how creepy then when you watch it. I would have got lost. dude made it seems like it was a simple walk lmao.
>>536927021>https://youtube.com/shorts/WOiKf8lrFustoo spoopy, but yeah they do look similar.
>>536921806With a walkies talkie though he would have to have been shot in the head
>>536932859https://youtu.be/phBgrlHyVb4He visits the site too
Paulides' entire argument summed up is that teleporting interdimensional bigfoot are kidnapping and killing people in national parks and that the government knows about it and covers it upHe talks to real families of missing persons, pretends to care, then goes and talks to bigfoot hunters with zero context given to his audience
>>536937230From the shit I saw, honestly I believe it when I saw that shadow void thing I have no idea how to it got there.
>>536916449Yeah, I saw something in the woods too, like trees and rocks and leaves and shit. All kinds of somethings, yeah, my family all saw something too I think, ahhh the details are so sketchy in my mind . . .
When I was 7 years old I was wandering around in the woods behind my house. I must have walked too far because I had no clue where I was. I ended up getting brutally molested by a guy wearing a black ski mask. I was so embarassed. I eventually hopped out onto a road and recognized where I was. I stumbled home crying my house out only to come home and see my dad drinking beer in his recliner, and he had a black ski mask on the table next to him. He looked at me, farted, and went back to watching baseball. I will never forget that day.
>>536937645Let's hope you don't see what ever it was. I feel if you approach it you might get skinned.
I lost a knife in the woods one time. I would swear under oath and take a polygraph test that I had packed it. It just wasn't in my bag when I got home. Either some 4D entity grabbed it like a chess player moving pieces on the board, or something happened between those two moments and and my memory of it was erased by someone or something with far greater understanding of how to manipulate brains than modern science has.
>>536937660Your dad took your cheeks?
>>536916310>Is the Missing 411 guy truly a fraud?Hell no, he's pretty much the only decent, open, honest dude. I feel he's had to cover more crazy topics in recent years because of the fraudster type people keep muddying the waters...He's a humble detective who does have a knack of video editing or hiring good production teams.
His books mostly document actual cases of missing people without adding any editorial bias. We have clusters of disappearances where I live that are really fucking odd, they literally make no sense. I have seen and heard shit in the wilderness that is unexplainable myself personally, shamans were really right all along.
>>536937660>He looked at me, fartedWhat it smell like ?
