How does AI generate revenue or increase in productivity?
>>536921113It just does okay, you just have to invest in AI or else we'll fall behind and a different AI company will win the war, also we'll put most of your pension money into AI because it's the future okay, don't question my circular logic.
>>536921113wagies are more productive and can ship more code.it also opens up new ways of business and there is lots of hype.
>>536921113very fucking simple, you fire 2 people, leave one and force him to use 10 agents. If he fucks up you replace him with an Indian.
>>536921113>How is the enormous AI capex justified?it isn't, the sole purpose is wealth transfer from the public to tech oligarchs. it is naked corruption.
>>536921210kek
>>5369211131. The AI race is winner takes all (eg Google vs Anthropic vs OpenAI vs others)2. It's a national security issue, the country with the best AI can win, so there's no limit to how much AI a country might need (except if it's human in the loop then AI usage is naturally limited to the humans).3.Semi fabrication is down to about 2-3nm, and the limit is about 1nm. That mean miniaturisation driven moore's law is coming to an end. From here on out, increasing compute will require devoting more space for running more servers.This is what has prompted a land rush to build data centres.
>>536921337Angstrom level now.
until polymorphic orthogonality is resolved datacenters are a meaningless boon
Once you see past the illusion of productivity and see it more as a means to an end to find, harass and possibly kill dissidents of ((())), then does the obscenely unlimited amount of money being poured into data centers make sense.They want the people that are awake, gone. This is their filter. Palantir is even making decisions for hospitals now. Those who know what they do, know what they will do. Imagine the matrix but instead of robots it's ((())). They are looking for Neo(nazis).
>>536921113If you can replace a $10k a month worker with a $500 a month bot, and it's productive 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with no sick days or vacations... gee anon, I wonder where the productivity comes from. As for revenue.. if it can replace the entire work force of just America, that's a trillion dollars a year at a minimum. Of course, who is going to be able to buy services and products without a job? Well, pretty much just the legacy owners of whatever businesses adopt AI.
>>536921113revenue?
>>536921113the plan is to kill all hiumans
>>536921337I feel like Moore's law has already effectively reached it's apex. There's no reason for a consumer to push for cutting edge computation, most normies could get by on a 2016 processor and not notice the difference.Comparatively, in 2016, normies could not run a 2006 processor and not feel the difference. Normies don't use the technology currently available to them at anywhere near it's functional limit - and most of the functionality they're using is redundant anyway. You need 6gb of ram and a 4ghz processor for scrolling through a list of mp4s on instagram? Wut?
>>536921113We just approved one that is going to be using 650 megawatts of power. That's enough for at least 200k households. Our county doesn't even have 200k people in it. They're trying to pass one in the county next door that is supposed to use 1 gigawatt. They don't even have 30k people living there. How is this shit going to work? How can our electric grid handle this shit?
>>536921113They use it to spy on everyone and the investment firms get perpetually rich in a controlled stock rollercoaster, while they target you with ads in your sleep, but also record your dream response to provide you with better quality ads while you sleep.All being run out of India,, in some jungle warehouse using recycled cellphones.They know nobody can stop it, they are banking on out of control chaos caused by letting civilization burn under AI dystopia. Maybe they are vampires, because otherwise they won't live long enough to see the nightmare.You never hear about any of the visions any of them have for the future for a reason. They don't care about anything but the next loop in the ride. I'm sure there's a plan, letting ai bots run the worlds societies using quantum brain manipulation seems completely backwards thinking.But the odds are on AI here, there's almost no way it can lose, people are utterly helpless and hopeless. The best they can do is rage impotently at the dog for barking all day.
>>536921113If you don't get it by now there is nothing we can do to help you understand.
>>536921113Why do you keep asking questions? If you have to ask you'll never know.
AI cock sucking robots will be here by the end of the year. There are approximately 4 billion cocks on Earth. If each cock gets a $20 monthly cock sucking subscription then well you do the math.
>>536921113AI and datacenters = greatest magnitude *financial scam* in history of human civilization.Remember it started in 2023 right after the SVB banking collapse: immediately afterward NVIDIA became the 'new hero' and three full years later here we are.Global Real Economy of good-services-commodities is still in the six year free fall collapse that started in mid-2019 : investment banks' overnight repo crisis. Magically then came covid, never-before-in-human-history worldwide lockdown, and another $12 trillion in Liquidity for the global investment banks' black box gigacsino. 2022: Ukraine invasion that briefly boosted both stocks and the global economy with weapons shipments, then 2023 banking collapse-------------------Now into the 'AI boom' gigahoax.Global debt market has been on brink of implosion for past three years. AI is the last cash grab before worldwide collapse. Keep watching the 10 yr yield
>>536921113I ask my friends the same question. What is the product exactly? The only answer is that it's not about the money; it's about control. Total panopticon surveillance of everyone all the time. But why would they want that? They're going to kill us.
>>536921113It makes sense in some industries, notably software, movie and TV show production as well as legal research. Likely very good for engineering and scientific research as well. It should have multiple times the economic impact of Google.What i'm waiting for is the AI drones that will replace the fiber optic ones
My only consolation is that maintaining such a buildout of datacenters is impossible.
>>536921113>How does AI generate revenueWorldwide 400 billion dollars a year is spent on AI services/subscriptions. Since your concept of numbers is likely "one, two, and many", I'll rephrase it to say:AI industry pulls as much revenue every year as aerospace manufacturing or commercial vehicle repair and fleet maintenance.In other words people and companies around the world spend as much on AI every year as we do in manufacturing aircraft or as much as the world spends every year to keep every delivery truck maintained. Unlike commercial vehicle maintenance or jet manufacturing, which are pretty mature industries that likely won't grow all that much, AI is very new so the potential for more improvements and wider adoption seems very high. Consider also the speculative nature. 100 years ago the USA had 250 or so car manufacturers. Today we have basically 20 in the entire world. Part of the speculation here is that whichever company you buy a share of today is one of the half a dozen remaining (or is bought by one of them) 20 years from now. What is your portfolio looking like right now and how much are you considering investing in AI?
>>536921764>If you can replace a $10k a month worker with a $500 a month bot, and it's productive 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, with no sick days or vacations... gee anon, I wonder where the productivity comes fromIs that the case right now, though? Nvidia’s VP says that using AI is still far costlier than hiring human employees. Uber blew through its entire AI budget in 4 months because Claude tokens are expensive.
>>536928740All of """"tech"""" including AI is totally worthless vaporware.
It's all a house of cards. Unless you're a billionaire you should disentangle yourself or risk being a bag holder.
>>536928740>>536929359Here's an interview (watch closely the 1st half of it) that analyzes the mechanics of giga-leveraging:>https://rumble.com/v7avh1ghttps://rumble.com/v7avh1g
>>536929802This.
>>536921113They generate revenue by people buying tokens. People buy tokens so they don't have to pay a wage to a real worker. Vast majority of office work is entirely AI capable either now or in short term. You can replace 20 paper pushers with AI and one guy that handles the edge cases and monitors the AI's, you can afford to pay 18 peoples salaries to the AI company and still leave a profit to you as well.
>>536929802>memory was boughtThe funniest part is, they didn't even buy most of it, they just say they might/most definitely will.
>>536928559>not about the money; it's about controlIt's both, but the latter is far secondary (and a last desperate grab at totalitarian power).Every anon should watch the first half of the ^^^^rumble interview, explains everything about the market leveraging in AIGlobal debt market has been on brink of collapse for three years running. Post-2022 AI gigahype is a covid-style mass formation delusion of the financial class, but moreover is needed to patch over and distract from the unavoidable fact that nobody is buying the debt. Keep watching the 10-yr yield.
>>536921287This./thread
>>536921337who'd have thought the french, of all people, would win (i.e., Claude)
>>536921730The surveillance state is the main thing, a side thing is that they could fix issues like say hospitals being understaffed/overworked by hiring more staff but that would involve paying people more and they don't want to do that. What every company would really like to be true is if they could shore up their staffing issues WITHOUT actually hiring more staff, which has hard minimums for expense, and AI seems like a way to do it.Can AI actually do it? Maybe in some narrow cases, but the important thing for this moment is that you can plausibly say that maybe the AI can do it. Even if they can't we haven't found that out "for sure" yet, which is enough for the companies to try it and enough for the AI companies to sell themselves as solutions while soaking up venture capital and giving the CEOs enough time to plan their exits to South America. If you're going to live in a gated community might as well do it in a place where the people outside the gates are dumber, poorer and easier to control.
>>536921113it generates revenue for me in that I make 5k a week working on the data centers
>>536929802Damn that's a good image.
>>536921113these are all just scams to milk us dry before they kill us. why do you think theyre ALL building bunkers?
>>536921113They expect a cataclysm that will destroy the surface go'yimshttps://youtube.com/watch?v=levsYok2ttw
>>536921113>How is it more productive to have an AI to tell: here AI, analyze this fuckton of data and give me recommendations on what it implies, please detail caveats and assumptionsI guess manual laborers would not understand such things
>>536929697>All of """"tech"""" including AI is totally worthlessWell then I'm sure your company will outperform your competitors who are wasting so much money on worthless AI. >>536929806>According to my video on social media the economy is going to collapse in 2 more weeks.So where are you positioning your assets to make out from all of that? What's your net worth these days?
>>536921113It isn'tIt doesn'tIt is the last bubble
>>536924849It's fucking bullshit because you'd think a pc power with decade old processing speed would be cheap but if you go cheap you're going to get something that can barely run software from that era. I miss the 90's where these things were annually becoming much more advanced. If the trend had continued you'd be able to get something far more advanced than what 2016 had to offer for chump change today.
>>536921200checked and underrated
>>536933496>triggered Faggot 2 pbtidWatch the video Mr. Billionaire That Trades AI Nasdaq Stock. Dumb Fuck Tard.Critique the first half of that analysis interview, come back here with (You)r Expert Takedown.AI is the fakest thing in the history of human civilization all 4,000 years of it
>>536930014>they just say they might(You) just described^ the *speculative debt instruments* that constitute the entirety of the post-1970s Financialized global economy in a nutshell
>>536934394 >But my favorite e-celeb says the west has fallen and civilization is going to come to an end.How long have you been taking that guys financial advice and how has your portfolio performed?
>>536921200Except it failed on all fronts. It costs more then a human and fails at the tasks given.This is the greatest boondoggle of boondoggles. It's an excuse to do mega land grabs while installing a choking device on bad goys which is all goys.
>>536921113AI's job is to prove Karl Marx's theory correct about the onslaught of wild capitalism. AI will suck all money, wealth and health into the Void and leaves a vacuum behind, all this with a huge sucking sound.>then Klaus and his merry communists can declare victory and world transitions into stateless communist order without oppressed, without oppressor, without hunger, without disease..(which unfortunately has always meant massive planet wide graveyard.)
>>536934947How much of your wealth have you given to AI so far? I've only put in about $20 for a month trial for a transcription service which actually worked very well, but I don't need it anymore.
>>536924849Need more processing power to chug through six million miles of AI and jeet bloat in the code
>>536934886>4 pbtid still malding <--and zero analysis of his viewing assignmentFuck off Brainlet Fuck Tard 4chan poseur.Steve Bannon (former Goldman Sachs M&A) on the brand new SpaceX IPO this morning:>https://rumble.com/v7b6t5whttps://rumble.com/v7b6t5w>addressible market $26 trillion
''People'' who can't see the value of LLMs and generating pretty much anything are retarded. Behind all the buzzwords and marketing terms, at the end of the day what ''AI'' really is, is talking to a computer. In the first time in history you can just use words to talk to a computer and it understands you better than the average person and knows exactly what you want. If you don't see value in that, you are retarded. Very specific technical skills have been replaced by just asking a computer to do it for you. That's huge.But what is the bubble and what isn't justified is the over inflated stock market and everyone gambling on AI stocks. It's not based on anything except the stock value. People see numbers go up and they invest so their numbers go up. Smart people invested early and they increased their net worth by 1000%.The stock bubble will pop, the data centers will be sold half price, the push to integrate AI into everything will die down, but ''AI'' will not go away. The thing is that all the important things can be done with your average gaming PC. You don't need data centers to run chatGPT or diffusion or whatever. You just need a somewhat powerful PC. All the overinvested stocks have simply made ''AI'' faster so instead of waiting 20 seconds for a response you get a response in 0.1 seconds because google has millions of spare servers to use.
>>536935060You keep your monies in a bank?Pensions are already getting sucked into the void or just about to be. Next other savings, then stonks, then banks then everything.
>>536921113It isn't and it doesn't.
>>536935350>That's huge.Only to boomers who have always been clumsy as fuck with compooters. To the younger generations there's no mystery.
>>536935527>Pensions getting sucked into the voidA few years ago Bank of England was forced to put bonds back on its balance sheet aka buy them back, to prevent all U.K. pensions from imploding.
it doesn'tit's all just money laundering and rich fucks scamming other rich fucks
>>536924849Q6600 and Linux 4 life
>>536921287Came here to post this.
Bannon this morning says that (on his examination of it) the SpaceX IPO consists mostly of fedgov contractsin addition to AI vaporware speculative projects
>>536935624The younger generations are fucking retarded. If anything the older people will not be able to wrap their head around asking a computer to do stuff for them. For zoomer retards it clicks. They go from mindlessly scrolling on an ipad to going ''siri, tell me how to breathe'' and it's working. Pretty much every zoomer talks to their phone when they need something. You no longer need to know how to use google, how to even find the browser, how to even install a browser.In the past if you wanted to do the most basic things, like let's say putting a program on fullscreen, some fucking dude had to manually program it and put a button on the screen to do it. Whey you can talk to a computer you can just ask the computer to do it for you.In the past you had to manually copy and paste text into google translator to translate text. Now I just highlight the text and use the Brave browser's inbuilt AI to translate everything and then I ask the AI to summarize the text. Any kind of a skill and knowledge you had to have to use a computer is slowly being phased out.
>>536935638>to prevent all U.K. pensions from imploding.Prematurely?They are all communists looking forward to get "proven right" and get their satisfaction from century of humiliation. It's sad, really. In the most retarded way.
>>536921113>capexThe only scenario by which such ludicrous levels of spending could be justified would be if MASSIVE amounts of revenues from other sectors, suddenly began to be shifted to the AI sector.It's not possible.
