Owning a Tesla is a loanmaxxer's nightmare
EVs are so cool I wish they weren't all goy surveillance pods.
>>536955494Can't self repo if there is an object in it's path.https://standeestore.com/products/aaron-judge-ny-yankees-70-tall-cardboard-cutout-standee-party-decor-copy-33
>>536955633Is it possible to make one that is offline or is it regulated to shit?
>>536955633why would they do this, when you phone is that.
>>536955948Look up the Bollinger B1
>>536956039Because I dont need to take my phone to go somewhere. >>536955948best chance right now is DIY / Resto mod
>>536955753If they want to force return it they can check cameras, see ts is just a paper board and crush thought it.If you want to make your Tesla locked you have to use something serious on the tires.And even if you do that, they can still decide to make your Tesla go in some lockdown mode where you can't drive it cause it's all electrical and connected to the zog network 24/7
>>536955494Can't repo it if I didn't buy rolling Spyware in the first place.
>>536955494>Owner>Make your usury payments or lose the carThis is Capitalism brainrot at its finest. These slop-brained freaks don't even know what ownership is anymore.
>>536955494>technology is amazingI'd literally never buy anything I don't control 100%.
Is there not a way to disable all that bullshit
>>536956492Car won't function if you disable it, it's in the firmware. Theoretically you could remove it all if you had access to the firmware and the reflash the modules, but that ain't happening.
>>536956492If there were, "how to jailbreak your Tesla" would be a thing.
>>536955494The muskbots won't like this thread. What kind of contracts are people signing? Does the car only become their property after the last payment or what?
>>536956146>postponed indefinitely Not much help anon
>>536955494I cant believe people buy these surveillance machines on wheels. Not to mention the lack of repairability.
>>536955494>technology is amazingThe new Pharisees-type mantra
>>536955494>gee, I wonder why Tesla got all those government subsidies and free exclusion of competitive cars from overseas for a decade
>>536955494>pack it full with a certain type of fertilizer>let it drive home to Tesla HQ;)
>>536955633No they arent, theyre gay and fucking useless unicornsUntil we get the power and utility of doesel electric hybrids for freight and duty work, every EV iw a fake gsy and retsrded larp wqste of resources globohomo wetdream surveillance state word salad homoplexFuck em
>>536955948>Is it possible to make one that is offlineI always think the main reason petrol cars are demonized and the EV's are being pushed isnt for cleaner air, its for more control. EV's I think at this point are always online travel pods, that can be tracked and controlled remotely. This is the only thing that bothers me about it all. Climate change being pushed as it allows an easy narrative to take away control from the individual.
>>536957083It's the same crap as with smartphones. Closed systems everywhere. And instead of alternatives emerging, they're gradually taking away our access to all free hardware.
well then. make your fucking paymentwhat pisses me off is not skipping a payment and saying bye bye. it's them charging you to use the onboard system. the camera, video screen etc. you have to now pay a monthly rental fee? but you bought the fucking car. that's fucked up
>>536955494>Loaning or leasing a carA fool's errand
>>536955494Can't repo on an automated parking garage.
>>536955948The Slate truck is supposed to be like that if it ever actually happens.
>>536958323Seems good but>Jeff Bezos-backed startupdoes not fill me with confidence
>>536955494>once FSD is betterSo never then.
If anyone kills a debt collector, bailiff or repo guy I wouldn't batt an eye lid. They're scum of the earth.
>>536957464Ding ding dingI'd buy an EV with a manual transmission with a proper clutch capable of disconnecting the motor from the transmission, hydromechanical steering and brakes, and no power anything other than the drive motor. It would probably be super-affordable and fun to drive like the old VW Beetles. But no, we can't have nice things, because Jews.
>>536955948The first electric car was built in 1905 by Thomas Edison so yeah it's absolutely possible.
>>536959565I assumed it was physically possible, just asking about regulations and such.>>536958323This one looks good but...
>>536959711>I assumed it was physically possible, just asking about regulations and such.Look up Casey Putsch and he'll explain everything wrong with the car industry right now. The short version is we're a conquered country under occupation an we're not being allowed to invent anything new that's better than older stuff. Pic related is a 130mpg diesel car he built.
>>536956248>And even if you do that, they can still decide to make your Tesla go in some lockdown mode where you can't drive it cause it's all electrical and connected to the zog network 24/7If someone gets control of the 8+ million Teslas out there and sets all the batteries on fire at the same time it would be a total and complete mess. Millions of impossible to extinguish fires in houses and buildings at the same time that the roads are clogged by millions of impossible to extinguish firesConnecting things together like this is such a bad idea
>>536955948youre being incredibly antisemitic right now......
I would be interested if there wasn't the threat of AI bullshit and surveillance in cars making them unsafe to drive and a threat to my privacy
>>536956039you know how with a car, you can go anywhere?well goyim shouldn't be allowed to go anywhere
>>536959908Damn Indians conquering Americans through H1b visas
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>>536955633just unplug the cars cellphone link.
>>536959908>shitty lightweight death trapyeh universities do stuff like tat, the yare not practical, they drive them around a level track in dry perfect conditions and of course pick the lightest fag to drive them to keep the weight down. Diesels already can do pretty high mpg. But let's say you can double the mpg for all diesels on the road. You halve your gas costs. The average daily milage in the US is under 50 miles a day. Gas milage for cars in the past was terrible, real shitty mpg, then it improved and then got worse as they put restrictions in place for the type used and the cat convertors. ICE vehicles are on their last legs, they won't be a thing in 20 years. Peak oil for Saudi Arabia passed a few years ago, they are already moving their attention away from O&G because you need to plan a few decades in advance. This is like some horse whip company being he best in the country and then collapsing as the masses don't use horses or travel in horse drawn carrages.
>>536956392Wait till you hear about mortgages
>>536961060the entire car body probably acts as an antenna for the SpaceX satellite arrays - they can pinpoint their cars with millimetre precision
>>536959486>EV with a manual transmission and a clutchIt doesn’t need a gearbox you mouth breather, go pick up a wrench
>>536956492>Is there not a way to disable all that bullshitReally bugs me even though mine is paid for. Feels like it's never really mine. Also feels like some hacker could drive it through my living room wall for fun
>>536961120He test drove this car all over American highways. It's viable. Call it whatever names you want, it's proof of concept that electric is bullshit and that we can make cars way more efficient than they are right now. You're right about diesel already getting good mileage though. There was a guy on youtube I saw who put a cummins diesel engine in a crown victoria and claimed he was getting 40-45mpg, and a crown victoria is a big ass car. They weigh 4,000 pounds. Even if you think Casey's car is bad, you could still retrofit current cars with better new generation engines that get better mileage.
>>536960528imagine the self driving aspect of it too. People early on used to wonder what was stopping your Tesla from locking the door and driving you into lake. Imagine every telsa on the road accelerating to 120mph and taking out utilities, stores, whatever preprogrammed target was sent to it. That would be a shitty tuesday.
>>536957464> its for more control. Having a smartphone means being geolocated at 100m 24/7 while writing your own intelligence dossier.
>>536955494this guy does not park his tesla in a faraday garage
>>536961776Diesels are disgusting. I don’t want that toxic smog shit fucking up my town. Cry about emission control all you want but if they weren’t implemented then every single urban centre would look like 1970s LA choking in cancerous smog. He is only getting the supermileage by having zero emissions controls and an aerospace tier frame that will turn you into red paste during an accident which is why he gets shut down. I want non zogged EVs so I don’t have the infernal roar of combustion engines shitting up my audible range and don’t have black diesel smoke giving everyone cancer.
>>536961484to think we had the best satellites and sold everything to the mutts.So much for our right to privacy.
>>536956039why wouldn't they? it's not like a meaningful number of people are going to stop buying this slop.
>>536957434Almost nobody makes diesels anymore, let alone diesel-electric hybrids. Not enough profit in it.
To me this sounds like a big potential market. Whoever figures out how to hack a Tesla and remove all these 'features' is going to make a small fortune. I'm sure many Tesla owners would gladly pay to gain total control of their vehicle. It's a huge moneymaking opportunity. I think this will become a big industry, removing spyware and remote controls from modern cars. But for sure it will void your warranty and insurers will charge you more or refuse to insure your vehicle because you aren't playing by the jew rules.
What do you think the data centers are for.We are creating decentralized skynet to watch everyone everywhere in real time and remotely take over any vehicle or electronic device. While controlling robot armies and using the data to determine 'pre crimes' in those likely to resist taking them out before they even know they will resist based on predictive patterns from studying billions of people in real time for years.
>>536955494Making someone repossess your car is nigger behavior. If you can’t afford to pay your loans, at least have the courtesy to return the car yourself to the dealership.
>>536962508A data center is just a building that can be burned down. I don't know why you people think the government is some flawless perfect villain that can't possibly lose. We would easily defeat them if they became that evil. We would simply burn all their data centers and hang them. They won't do it because they know they would lose and lose badly. So it will never happen. Life will go on as normal and our rights will be respected. Or else.
>>536962519That's not the only reason cars get seized. Also imagine defending jewish behaviour with nigger behaviour. What a time to be alive
>>536955494>>536955753>this enrages the repo man
>>536962294idk I kind of think this is the coolest fucking thing ever.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUOazODfjjQ
>>536962611Be vigilant brother
>>536961611You could easily design an (((ev))) that has a manual clutch and gearbox.
>>536955494Set it on fire.
>>536962652I like those, I bet they are expensive and a bitch to install though. I would probably go with removable ones to save fiat paper.
>>536955948Evey new car sold in EU has to have emergeny call button connecting to emergency services. The button can be activated manually or automatically after strong enough vehicle crash, basically an auto dial button/service to 911. Supposedly, emergency services can’t find your location just by call alone, I call BS, but most importantly, users sign away their privacy by giving consent for manufacturers tracking and data harvesting. Glowniggers can simply subpoena or warrant that shit.
>>536957464You could make a gasoline car with all the control features found in EV cars.That's a pretty dumb argument.
>>536962663I’m sure it’s cool if you are a low iq negro impressed by loud things>>536962696Yes you could, for what reason? EV motors function perfectly fine as single speed. You would be adding in huge complexity and cost for absolutely no reason. Pick up a wrench office worker retard.
>>536962611>We would simply burn all their data centers and hang themOnce the data centers are built the AI will figure out that you will think to do something bad before you even yourself know. Cops knock on your door and take you to jail to tell you that you would have had a bad thought (picrel)
>>536955494>honked it
To all the anons saying lock it up this faraday cage that - the second you drive it - it will go wherever it wants to go
>>536962803You talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded
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>>536962818>biocops>not an autonomous hunter killer drone Luddite.
>>536962818Yeah but then those cops would get shot. And then the jews run out of cops and get defeated. This is a losing strategy for losers. They are at least smart enough to be so retarded. Most people have good intentions and would refuse or resist to comply with a dystopian evil government. So your fantasy fiction about skynet is never going to come to pass because nobody will allow it.
>>536962865And you are a low IQ simpleton impressed by loud things, a spiritual negro
sorry. Typing fast. Meant to say(((they))) are at least smart enough, to not use a retarded strategy.
>>536955494>The year is 2040>Say something bad about zog>Your goymobile drives back to the dealership and is confiscated >Have to take public transportation>Get stabbed by nigger and dieHotdog hotdog hot diggity dog, it's so cool how were all slaves to zog.
>>536957464This is all modern cars. It has nothing to do with EVs specifically.
>>536962818Commies love thought police demons are 100% walking thought police Kikes love demons and it travels in families Commies = demon control matrix
I have a 2004 Honda Civic as my backup car. Come at me.
>>536962907>And you are a low IQ simpletonI have a feeling you just think you're smart, seems to be a character failing of across the ponders.
>>536962895They will be sending policebots not meatbags you imbecile. >nooooo we’re just gonna kill the government if they do thatYou have more guns than half the planet and do nothing with them while the government has been assraping you unlubed for half a century and getting worse by the day. The second amendment is the biggest cope pacified that there ever was.
>>536962989I could really use a backup car myself, like an old jeep
Every time some schizo on 4chan says the big bad evil government is going to be evil and do evil shit blah blah blah....no they fucking aren't. Are you stupid? Why would we put up with this dystopia you imagine? The obvious answer is that the government has to play nice because there are way more of us than there are of them. They don't have enough enforcers to fight us so they must behave or die. It's essential to the ruling classes survival that they DO NOT FUCK WITH US. They know this. I know this. You should learn. Your dark fantasy will not come to pass. We will NOT allow it.
>>536963022There are plenty of Americans who are willing but they are alone, and if they are not, they sure as hell wont be blabbing their mouths on the internet
>>536963074There's enough dumbasses in government who play chicken with their power and lives
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>>536955633literally the bing bing wahoo of carskys
>>536955948No once you add a giant battery to a vehicle companies and governments mandate it powers so many electronics that spy on you that it would have killed the lead acid battery in a normal car within a week of not being driven.It enables an authoritarian plethora of possibilities they just can't ignore.
Look, we the people, are barely tolerating the current state of the world. If you think the ruling class can make things even worse for us without a total global revolution, you are nuts. The ruling class are holding on by their fingernails while the whole world goes insane. They are going to be lucky if they can survive at all, and you think they will rule the world with robots? HAH! good fucking luck with that idea.
i just want a car like this
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>>536962895>Most people have good intentions and would refuse or resist to comply with a dystopian evil government. So your fantasy fiction about skynet is never going to come to pass because nobody will allow it.This is only true in the absence of a serious power gap between individual citizens and government. So in the USSR they could go around and arrest 10% of an entire city and stick them in the gulag because the Russian people had no guns. So we have guns. Great. But what happens when they have picrel coming to get us? Once the government has an army of picrel, there is a power gap that is big enough where 10% of a city could be arrested once againOnly thing between you and tyranny is lack of a significant enough power gapWith robotics and AI, this lack goes away, and now there is a power gap, and now you are fucked
>>536955948Ridiculously easy. There are probably a few diy/builder youtubers that could knock that out in a <month.At its core, an EV is simply a collection of battery cells wired to a controller which makes the flow of power go schizo, which makes the wheels spin. There are so few necessary middlemen.
>>536963171I always figured they were surveillance pods. Just didn't consider the fuck huge battery is excellent for always on surveillance.
>>536957083There is no faster or greater way for me to think you’re a retarded NPC than to see someone who actually paid to own one of these. I wouldn’t use it for free.
>>536959565I think this is false. didnt Mercedes have an electric car in the late 1800's?
>>536955494The automotive industry is so corrupt and kiked that we should have been using amazing electric cars long ago. But they and others have been sabotaging and suppressing the tech for decades; hell the only reason we even have these dystopian always track you versions now on a large scale is because of the global warming hoax and some other things.
>>536963404And basically all of this can be done with simple (but beefy) analog electronics
>>536955494Imagine not owning your car outright. Lmao.
>>536955494Only niggermaxxers own Teslas.
Tesla goes into permanent lockdown just for not connecting it to a charger and doing a mandatory call home software update within a certain time span.The heated seats, sport mode, and many other features are locked out in software unless you pay seperately monthly subscriptions. The vehicle won't even operate to its potential and the parts in a vehicle you own won't even turn on.>>536963404>>536963715Could be done but will violate the terms of the financed contract. Then the car is taken from you if not paid off.Also violates the law of governments mandating things.By law now your car has to have video cameras inside watching your eyes and face to determine if you are intoxicated. In EU it must be able to call wirelessly.So they all spy inside and outside and can be remotely taken over by law.CIA already has been doing this, so you know cara are assassinating people. Both owners and other people. Oops a car just crossed the double yellow head on into another undesireable in that turn.One thing that could end this is a terrorist attack remotely taking over multiple vehicles and using this vehicle army to go after targets.Skynet can just take over vehicles at will now and have them ram and person or vehicle to death.Could probably make the battery do something that causes it to burst into flames too. Discharge or charge or something in a harmful manner via software.
>>536955494Imagine taking all the lug nuts off when you're running behind on the car payment
Imagine remotely taking over 20 large vehicles then having them all go ram a building bulldozing it until they are disabled.These things even being in society put everyone in danger.
>>536964534>Imagine remotely taking over 20 large vehicles then having them all go ram a building bulldozing it until they are disabledIt is literally possible for millions of cars to just go into killing mode. And once their tires are torn up too much to drive they just set themselves on fireEntire cities would burn to the ground. Remember how all of LA almost burned down from the palisades fire?
>>536956492Commie scum
>>536965258You might need the skynet compute power of a datacenter to control that many at once though.Imagine the first wave of an invasion force is many of societies vehicles going into killing mode making most roads unusable and occupying all first responders, before the giant drone swarm follows.
Or perhaps h1b employee of Tesla fired or layed off adds commit Brahmin405/implessivehivemind666 to the mandatory update and all vehicles the following month have high speed crashes during rush hour grinding society to a halt.
>>536955494>the way to steal a tesla is to rip it apartHeh. It's almost like an inability to repair the thing makes it not worth owning
>>536955948Why would you want it offline? Then you can't get all the cool new updates.
>>536955494It would be a good time to get into the business of jail breaking electric cars.
>>536957434This is what bothered me from the get-go. Diesel/electric has been a thing for decades and it doesn't seem like anyone has even attempted to make one despite the incredible energy density of diesel.
