if ukraine is winning hard how will Russia do this
>>536958480Russia is "ready" to attack NATO right now if it wants to, that doesn't mean it'll work out the way russia wants it to. Russia has decided to dedicate itself to committing suicide, and I'm all for it
>>536958716does that mean ukraine has no chance to win and it's all lies?Also if they're lying about ukraine winning, couldn't they be also lying about Russia preparing to attack EU?
>>536958480Is there even any proof you guys will do something so retarded?
>>536958480Ukraine isn't winning. The entire war was just a liquidity exit for the democrats and russia was their pawn. If russia attacks nato, it'll be russia end. Its what they want. You were provoked in responding. The was what they wanted to get more countries under nato for whne you do attack, you will be obliterated. don't fall for it, ruskis
>>536958480NATO specialists always say that though I am fine with it. Better to stay alert than say sorry afterward
>>536959759the russia will attack EU only if they win in Ukraine, which is not going to happen.
>>536958480out of spite and putin wanting to see it before he croaks
>>536960580Why are they so worried about it then?
>>536958480putin wanted a multipolar world.each tribe trying to get the biggest bonking stick is a symptom of a return to tribalism.there has been no real need for preparations since the fall of the ussr, so armies have been allowed to get to a miserable state, and using russia as an excuse is a means to an end. america is no longer as dependable as it once was.
>>536958480you will strike at the soft belly of Finland and from there it only gets easier
>>536960715Because Putin is an insane person who does incredibly retarded things.
>>536960715Who is "they"? Is the german army chief the final authority on what the entirety of europe considers will happen? No, It's literally a single person's opinion
Are there even enough fighting-age russian men left?
>>536960895they I mean EU, who constantly talks about it
>>536958716europe literally demilitarized itself to lose its war to balkanize Russia.there is functionally no "nato" anymore in every actual technical sense of the termnato has no ability to fight anyone, anyhere anymore>>536959988ukraine is being devastated, and this insane propaganda psychosis the past 2 weeks that ukraine somehow "turned the tide" and is now pushing back towards Crimea is so fucking ass insane i cannot believe the media is even trying it
>>536960580>the russia will attack EU only if they win in ukraine, which is not going to happen.AHAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHHAAHHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHHAno seriously you cant actually believe "ukriane is winning!" do you...?like your back to the "THE 1991 borders!!!"and "Crimean beach party!!!!" after 5 years of ukraine rape?
>>536961073>Are there even enough fighting-age Russian men left?yah millions on millionsRussia devasted ukraine forever using convicts and volunteersukraine extirpated its male population to LOSE territories "it didnt even want anyway", and will collapse as a nation.....where did all this "ukraine is winning!!!!" hysteria come from? ukraine literally does not exist without the totality of europe pumping it with its combined GDP...and somehow the Crimean beach party is back on in 2026?
>>536961076>by 2030Truth is, nobody knows when, or if, the russia will attack. It's all speculation. It's extremely unlikely to happen if the russia achieves anything less than a complete victory in Ukraine, which is practically impossible. That still doesn't mean countries shouldn't prepare militarily. the russia wasn't a threat immediately following the collapse of the soviet union, but that didn't mean Europe stopped investing in their militaries. The future is always uncertain and all possibilities must be accounted for
>>536961076It’s to fearmonger, Russia is done
>>536958480POLLAND'S NEXT (PONEXTPO)BOLLAND'S NEXT (PONEXTPO)POLANDBOLAND'S NON NEGOTIABLE
>>536961208>year 5 of the 3-day special military operation>still thinks the russia is winningIt's easy to claim victory when you keep moving goalposts to infinity. The end result will be that russia will claim victory because ukrainians are russians
>>536958480NATO chief just said rather the opposite: Russia has no interest in a conflict with NATO.Germans are brainwashed to give more and more money for the war and this requires fearmongering.
>>536961493fake subtitles.
>>536961602Okay, post the real ones then. Are these fake subtitles too?
>>536961076Well you did spend 500 years trying to conquer them. They're understandably weary
>>536958480Goymany yes!
>>536958480Well they invited every Tom, Dick, and Harry into NATO, Russia could trip over a tree branch and accidentally attack one of these dipshit NATO countries. The eastern European countries should have never been allowed into NATO because they go out of their way to antagonize Russia into attacking them. Im not ever going to fight a war for Europe against Russia or anyone else, I dont give a fuck, so dont even ask.
>>536962460>the russian cries out in pain as he strikes you
>>536962495Yeah, I dont see the USA on that map, therefore fuckoff. If they come here starting a war, they better bring a fucking a lunch though.
Half the countries in Nato, shouldnt be in it. Just like the EU. But if Russia attacks a Nato country just use nuclear weapons. Be very clear "If you attack Nato, we're going to nuke you", and lets end humanity. I'm ready for it
>>536962586the russia suplied Iran with intel that was used to kill american soldiers
>>536962460>Russia could trip over a tree branch and accidentally attack one of these dipshit NATO countriesOh no, we accidentally sent tanks and missiles into your country. You understand, right?
>>536961674do you expect anyone to take you seriously after you posted blatant garbage discordtroon propaganda?
>>536961493>It's easy to claim victory when you keep moving goalposts to infinity.>>536962460>Well they invited every Tom, Dick, and Harry into NATO,LMAOOOOOOO "a bunch of dickless trannies gathered together in anger!!!!"
>>536958716Russia is just as "ready" to attack now as it would be in three years, but everyone in the EU talks about Russia attacking in 2-3 more years, which conveniently coincides with "remilitarization deadlines" or rather money extraction companies, given that nothing is being actually scaled up.It's a continent-level scam and all the fearmongering is being peddled to make more money. You are either part of the moneymaking group or a swamp tendie who can know no better.
>>536966760>companies*campaigns
>>536958480Is there actually some backing to these paranoid claims? how is russia supposed to attack Europe is the Russian mechanized forced were extremely diminished and the number of Su-57 planes are not enough to attack europe.It seems that all these paranoia arguments are just justification to use debt and taxpayer money to fund European arms manufacturers.
>>536958480More goy wars, as a treat.In post industrial economies, historically, the only way for a country to recover financially are massive wars in which significant portions of populations are culled.
>>536958480>ukraine is winning hardoh well
>>536964152I asked you to post the real subtitles. Why didn't you? Are these subtitles fake too?>>536964450>didn't reply to any of my pointsAs expected. I accept your concession
>>536959988Who will fight this war? I’m sure no American troops will be sent to die protecting Eastern Europe. The same can be applied to the Spanish, French, Italians, and Greeks. Germanic people view Eastern Europeans as subhumans so they will not be fighting to protect them. My country will either leave the EU and NATO or dissolve into civil war before fighting Russia. This leaves you with Finland, the Baltic states, Poland, and possibly Romania and I don’t think they can present a unified front.
>>536961674Thats in Detroit actually.>>536967852>talking hypothetically >these people actually manage to reproduce themselves, this is something to emulateYou aren't doing yourself any favors.
>>536959759>does that mean ukraine has no chance to win and it's all lies?the entire point of funding the ukraine was just to bleed out russian forces in the most convenient cold war possiblewe used to have to pit proxy nations against each other and then send our troops there, we literally dont even need to send our own troops and can have ukraine fight russian forces directly, with afaik only the north koreans joining in later on(for some reason)obv the war is still basically evil for the populace and i would never advocate anyone to fight for an eastern european nation and especially be drafted for it, but it is very convenientthis war also conveniently directly screws over any attempt from russia to attack NATO because their forces, weapons, and munitions are being passively bled out and tested against
>>536968814>talking hypothetically It won't be a hypothetical much longer
>>536961564NATO chief said it to justify the scale down of american involvement in Europe.This is done because US wants to profit from upcoming war that they talk so much about, not lose soldiers and equipment in it.
>>536962893Based Russia helping based Iran killing kikes
>>536961493Dugin is concrete at least.
>>536958480Russia is losing ≠ russians arent retarded enough to attack nato
It is a bit schizophrenic>Russia is suffering massive losses every month and is losing the war>Russia is also building new military bases near Norway and expanding the amount of troops that can be stationed there, we are at risk of invasion because we're failing to build up our army enough to be able to resist them
>>536958480say cheese zigger
