>I’m just going to give a kid autism and call it a day
>>536978358
>>536978358autism doesn't exist.Either it's a badly-behaved kid, a kid who otherwise fell victim to a purely profit-orientated industry or it's a kid with brain damage.Yes, your neighbor's kid who can't talk and shakes his hands isn't "autistic", he's brain-damaged but they can't say that for legal reasons.Yes, there are a lot more of these brain-damaged kids than there used to.
>>536978358Elon Musk is autistic af and is the richest man in the world
>>536978481Stfu faggot poojeet kike. Vaccines cause autism exponentially since they were released.
>>536978482He sold his soul to Satan. He’s an actual puppet retard like yourself. Kys maggot
>>536978539Same way trump got rich
Autism is real and your success in life when you have autism is 100% entirely dependent on what your autistic interests are. The issue is you can't force your autistic kid to have a profitable interests, its RNG. This is why there is such a massive range of potential when it comes to an autist.If you're an autist with an interest in medicine, engineering, coding, etc whatever, that person is going to be widely successful. But if their interests are pointless things, then its over, you're gona be a NEET.
Like punching smoke hoping to stop fire. Shit happens. You can let others define it for you or take ownership of it.
>>536978358Maybe autism just means you have actual free will and a subjective consciousness
>>536978358>trust my plan or you will be judged
But don't abort it or I'll torture you forever!!!
>>536978358God didn’t invent vaccines
>>536978358>>536978396>How can God exist when I love a black penis up my ass so much?
>>536978358>>536978396Authism has gone through the roof the very last few decades, so it seems it is manmade somehow. You two idiots of course blame the God you supposedly don't believe in. Most atheists are mentally ill, one way or another. Thanks for making it so obvious.
>>536979396>>536978481I have aspergers.
>>536979491Did you have your mum around all day and access to her the first 10 years of your life, as everyone did before the retarded boomers came along?
I’m making conjoined twins but claim this is for freewill even though Adam and Eve got tricked or had freewill before eating the fruit which means evil is not needed aka paradox and The War of The Worlds Aka Man Vs Satan I mean The One Piece is real?
>>536978358"Ive made poor life choices that have affected my kids." Thats what you are saying, if you want to know the bible outlines living that would stop this.
>>536979544No. I don't like the hostility of neurotypical people. Neurotypical people try to impose their will on other people to the point of wanting them dead if that fails. In a way, it's really funny, but also really sad.
How can Ace be one and eleven? What kind of God would allow that?
>>536979665>Neurotypical peopleThey are atheist NPCs just like you.
>>536979653Kinda of ironic considering God almost Abraham threw his kid off his cliff and second fathers are quite limited and third technically you would have a better chance almost getting to heaven being ignorant of the all this like a special Ed person not aware of reality so you telling me all this sealed my fate Big brain
>>536979699>gets 9699What did God mean by this one?
>>536979737That's false, most people are religious. Atheists are a minority, and I have never claimed to be an atheist. You simply assumed this. You don't need to have a traditional belief system to be religious.
>gets 9767Funny. Looks like even Jesus can laugh
>>536978396>>536978358True btw, I like those stories cus they're pretty thought provoking
Very thought provoking. Like a battle of Good vs Evil even though that comes from God but k>>536979816
Dah Gods are Crazy because they made CrazyUh oh. Truth Nuke Atheists and Christians
>>536979791Really? You look at the dump that is Europe today and you don't think the majority are godless? And I said atheist. You can be a believer in occultism, Wicca, or whatever, but you are an a-theist, meaning not a Theist. You are an atheist, majority of those destroying the West are atheists.
>>536979923I have never said my religious belief system is a nontheistic one. Again, you do not need to be an atheist to mock Christianity, nor are most people atheists. But in certain countries like Norway, that might be true, according to some statistics that I've seen. However, the average person worldwide is not an atheist, nor is the average person in Europe. Atheists are usually smug redditors who reject Abrahamic religions for obvious and practical reasons, but are also too lazy / unable to come up with their own belief system, so they lean towards nihilism. That's what's wrong with modern society, since most people are unable to replace the traditional beliefs systems with something new, more applicable in modern times.
>>536979791>>536978358You sound like a fake and a Jew. Tell me how fantastic and great it was to live under atheism in Yugoslavia. Tell me how atheism set you free, idiot. https://communistcrimes.org/en/forgotten-crime-communist-repression-serbia-1944-1945
Makes you wonder if man has freewill to begin with https://youtu.be/cNG0Ay3B3Mkis=e4dqFcqg28c7Gg8F
Or it’s all fate or like luck
>>536980119>Tell me how fantastic and great it was to live under atheism in YugoslaviaI wasn't alive during Yugoslavia, and from what I know, it was secular, not atheist. And it was secular for obvious reasons.
>>536980084>theists are usually smug redditorsYour post, hypocrite >>536978358
>>536980228There's nothing hypocritical about my post due to what I said above. It seems that you are just looking for conflict. Have a good day.
>>536980228Sorry, somehow cut the copy/paste. >Atheists are....
>>536978358GOD: i give you a healthy bodyDude>wanks every day>fucks assholes>takes drugs and alcoholGOD: I give you a health bodyWoman>aborts tge first 3 kid to "live" life>gets used as cum sock from niggers>takes hormons from 14y to 38y>first child at 39Oh noo WhY GoD So EaViL
>>536980292You posted this and was not like a smug atheist and looking for a conflict, faggot? >>536978358And why will you not talk about your beloved atheist Yugoslavia, Jew and fake Serb? https://communistcrimes.org/en/forgotten-crime-communist-repression-serbia-1944-1945
>>536978358>That kid would later grow up to be OP
>>536980413I'm not an atheist, so there's nothing to talk about. I'm aware of how religion was looked at during Yugoslavia. I've even been told stories about it. I think it was done for obvious reasons, but I don't think it had good results. However, it was still a safe country with its populace having the same moral system as before, implying Christianity is not necessary for it.
“The Sun God Nika Dances and Laughs guiding The World to its End!”
>>536978358>godjak threadbased af gimmie moar
>>536980410lel
>>536980413It also wasn't exclusive to Yugoslavia, the Soviet Union was even more hostile towards religions, and in that case, it was actually because of Jewish people, who were significantly over-represented in high positions. It is true that Jewish people prefer an atheist / secular state to a Christian one, and this is also due to obvious reasons, but it's not applicable to Yugoslavia. Communist states were a failure because they didn't put any importance on the ethnogenesis, which is why they are self-destructive and suicidal ideologies. It happened in Yugoslavia, and it happened in the Soviet Union. Meanwhile, countries like Italy and Germany managed to unite, because the emphasis was placed on this ethnogenesis, on this new national identity of otherwise historically different people, who just happened to belong to the same "family". You had the same religious differences in Germany, yet it didn't stop them. You even had a lot of sub-racial differences between North Germans and South Germans (Bavarians and Prussians don't have the same phenotype and have a lot of subtle genetic differences), yet it didn't stop them.
>>536980519>However, it was still a safe countryNot for Christians and Serbs were oppressed. You don't sound like a Serb at all. Faggot Jews, like yourself, however, just loved communist Yugoslavia. >implying Christianity is not necessary for it.Take a good look around and tell me how much we don't need Christianity and how Europe and North-America has not changed since the godless boomers ditched Christianity and embraced atheism and paganism.
>>536980683>Communist states were a failure because they didn't put any importance on the ethnogenesisNo, communism has never worked and will never work.
>>536980692Christianity isn't bad for society, so I'm not in disagreement with you. However, all Abrahamic religions became harder and harder to believe in, as people became more rational and intelligent. It is simply too easy to see flaws and inconsistencies in philosophies that are so old, and since Abrahamic religions (including Christianity) are such theistic religions, the moral compass comes top-down, as in from fear of divine punishment. If you do not believe in this God, which is hard because of the inconsistencies and flaws, then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down.
>>536980560>>536980624Your pics are that of a child. Make a logically sound argument if you can. Documented facts and logic only. Also1. What is your ethnicity?2. What is your religious position and how did you reach it? What research did you do? What books did you read? Name them. But you did nothing and you have no clue, right faggot Jew and/or pedo-pagan?
can we stop pretending kids with autism have it worse than barely sentient normies who wouldnt even cut it off to classify as cattle?
>>536980836How is that any different from what I had just said? I simply pointed out why - you can't have a nation without ethnogenesis, and communism sought to eradicate ethnicities in favor of people focusing on class differences. That's why countries with nationalist ideologies at the time of their unification still exist to this day, and communist ones do not, and are actually even smaller than before that, as communism is not just indifferent to ethnogenesis but actively hostile to the already existing one.
>>536980905I'm an ethnic Serb, obviously. I am technically a baptized Orthodox Christian as it's the norm here, and as it happened when I was a toddler. But I have developed my own belief system, the description of which would take too long for a typical 4chan conversation and it's 2000 character limits for posts.
>>536980692I'm aware of that, but that's still not going to guide me towards Christianity as some form of protest against communism or what had happened, or out of some spite. I also wasn't even alive during Yugoslavia, I'm 19
>>536978358>autismmeme disease, made up by big pharma
>>536978358I thank God every day for giving me autism and a Disney princess level of connection with nature instead of making me a psychopath normalfag who cares about social status among othrr psychopath normalfags
>>536978358His divine plan is unknowable and infalliblethats why he created the concept of ionizing radiation and cancer. for the lulz
>>536980903>However, all Abrahamic religions became harder and harder to believe in, as people became more rational and intelligentThat's a lazy lie from the Jews and Freemasons after they took over media and academia, and thus totally brainwashed the population with their retarded lies and dysfunctional thinking. > It is simply too easy to see flaws and inconsistencies in philosophies that are so oldHow did you reach that false conclusion? Show me your reasoning. Use documented facts and logic only. What research did you do? What books did you read? Name them. You seem to think that you are very intelligent and not an /r/atheism midwit. What is your IQ?
>>536981086Why are you replying to my comment to the American atheist ape? Are you working together with him as a team?
>>536981618/pol/ was founded by autists conquering and impacting normies, changing both culture and current politics. Nothing beats weaponized autism :P
>>536978959kill yourself Levi you fucking kike shill
>>536981726>That's a lazy lie from the Jews and Freemasons after they took over media and academia,It's actually the unavoidable, self-evident truth, but obviously there was a push to accelerate that, mostly through encouraging rational thinking. Christianity is really the original brainwashing tool that Jews used. Why should I prefer it over Slavic paganism? To me, they're equally unlikely and rubbish, and were simply a way for previous generations to find meaning in existence.>You seem to think that you are very intelligent and not an /r/atheismI don't. I also don't know how many times I need to state that I am not an atheist.>What is your IQ?136, tested in an official psych eval setting.
>>536982120Aaand here we finally have Team Tel Aviv, the stupid and paid Jewish spammer team monitoring /pol/ and spewing their raw hatred of Christianity. KYS faggot Jew.
>>536978482and yet everything we've seen points to him still being miserable
>>536982158>It's actually the unavoidable, self-evident truth,OK then demonstrate it. Use documented facts and logic only. Why did you avoid my question what books you have read and what research you did? Is it because you did absolutely nothing. >What is your IQ?>136, tested in an official psych eval setting.Then you are too stupid and ignorant to make the claims you are making. 19-year-old, low-IQ faggot. Why are you here and not on /r/atheism. You truly sound like a plebbitor, or a paid Jew.
>>536978358>>I’m just going to give a kid autism and call it a dayThe real problem is you think an 80 year lifespan is more important than eternity And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
>>536980903>If you do not believe in this God, which is hard because of the inconsistencies and flaws, then the whole house of cards comes crumbling down.How did you idiot reach that false conclusion? Again, show me the research you did. The books you read. Already with an IQ of only 136 you will struggle. What made you think that you idiot could make such profound para-conclusions and state your rubbish as demonstrated facts?
>>536982323>OK then demonstrate it. Use documented facts and logic only.Well, for one we know that our knowledge of evolution is not compatible with the Christian belief of how humans originated. We know that the earth is not flat. We know that organisms died before the fall of man. I didn't read the bible, nor will I ever, so I don't have an endless list of examples to give you, however what little of Christianity I was exposed to, in school and otherwise, was simply incompatible with me. It wasn't something that clicked with me, even as a child, and I could never convince myself to believe in it regardless of how much I wanted to.The fact that it's the unavoidable, self-evident truth is that it happened. That it happened as people became more rational, that it was happening for centuries already, and that it was predicted even in the 19th century by Nietzsche. You are right to find issues with modern society, but at the core of it is nihilism, not alternative belief systems. It is the lack of purpose, lack of identity, lack of belief, lack of meaning that happened as people became less Christian. The solution to it isn't necessarily a return to Christianity, although I'm sure that can help a lot of people, simply not me.
>>536982510Because the moral compass depends on this belief in God, and the consequences. If you do an immoral deed, you are punished in varying degrees by God and if you do a moral deed, you are rewarded. It doesn't come from an intrinsic kindness (although it does affect evolution and what is sexually selected for and why Christians are much kinder than Jews and Muslims), it comes from fear. More modern philosophies will instead stress that you should be moral and act in accordance with a certain moral compass out of rational reasons, not divine punishment.
>>536978358>Don't blame the mother>>536978396>leftist meme keeps getting longer and longerpottery>>536980933No they must be treated special. Just like faggots. Autism pride parades in every city!>>536982187Sadly this place is as infested as a New York city sewer.
>>536982787>>536982979>Well, for one we know that our knowledge of evolution iYour premise is that the theory of evolution is correct. Where did you demonstrate that, idiot?>We know that the earth is not flatYour premise is that the Bible states that the earth is flat and that it was part of the Christian theology the last 2000 years etc. You flunk basic logical thinking faggot. You have no clue and you are too stupid to realize your own stupidity. I have asked you multiple times about your research. What books have you read, etc., and you run the hell away and ignore it every single time. > I didn't read the bible, nor will I everAnd yet your premise was that you knew that the Bible states it is flat. And only a f-ing Jew would state that he would never read the Bible, i.e. including the New Testament, and certainly no Serb would say something that stupid. You are too stupid and ignorant to even have a fruitful debate with. Fuck off back to /r/atheism. Jew.
>>536983129You are very rude, and type a lot to say very little. Have a good day.
>>536980903> people became more rational and intelligent. The Catholic Church literally created and funded nearly the entire university system of Europe and is to this day the largest provider of healthcare and medical research by a wide margin. Go read any of the insanely autistic 7,000 page tracts written by the Church Fathers that discuss theological questions to their most extant possible logical conclusion in profoundly scholastic and exhaustive detail and then I'll let you come back and tell me that nobody ever questioned anything.What you actually mean is that after we were envenomated by judaizing, ignoble secular humanist bullshit at the racial level during and in the wake of the judeo-freemason French Revolution people stopped believing in God because they were propaganized into hating their own ancestors/birthright and believing that their hedonistic absolutism and boundless pursuit of their most base and bestial vices and passions is freedom rather than enslavement of the lowest order.
>>536978358These threads are stupid, but this one did make me chuckle.
>>536984132>The Catholic Church literally created and fundedYes, in medieval Europe, religious institutions served as schools, and yes, it led to the creation of universities and yes, they funded them. No one is denying that. But these two are not mutually exclusive nor is it particularly relevant, i.e. them funding institutions that encourage rational thinking and the pursuit of knowledge doesn't change the inevitable result of that, which is why they became decoupled institutions eventually, since religious institutions valued religious beliefs over objective truths. You can't have an institution teach evolution while also saying we were divinely created and the offspring of Adam and Eve.
>>536984610UwU
>>536986373>>536988529>Idiot knows nothing about science and academia>Hates God>Tranny >Low IQChecks out.
>>536978358Based God.
>>536988529>UwUYou couldn't be more obvious even if you tried, tranny.
>>536978481I have noticed some kids just mature unevenly so like the cognitive abilities might be 2-3 years ahead of other kids but social and motor skills are 2-3 years back. So that kind of autism might be a development delay which in theory evens out into adulthood. In practice these kinds of kids get tormented in all kinds of ways in school and often at home too so there's no chance.Wonder if it's really certain vaccines doing it and if it's luck or a combination of genes + vaccine.We know the vaccine shots contain aluminum if nothing else and the human body has zero uses for that but it's "tolerated" because you get small amounts from daily life. I was about to type they have mercury too but apparently I misremembered or that has at least not been a case for a long time.
>>536988652>>536988829I'm not an atheist. I'm not a transgender. Do you really think I would survive in Serbia if I were? American transgenders kill themselves, now imagine Serbian. You are so aggressive and rude. Pretty much what I said is wrong about neurotypical people in >>536979665
>>536978570Gladly we have school systems which do their best to waste 16-20 years of time to make sure no one gets too ahead + creating social settings which might work for 2/3 of students somewhat and leave other students feeling they are just an alien invader in every group they try to be a part of later.Your message was right tho, just adding. That's the core of autistic type of people, they have very high resistance to doing or getting interested in anything they don't give a shit about voluntarily.
>>536980164Fate but not the wishy washy lala land "fate".Fate as in you either have something or you dont, rather be autistic than a wagie tho, because autistic AND wagie sounds like a nightmare.I know there is some loser like this out there, wagie+poor+virgin+autisticHow he didnt snap yet? Who knows.
>>536989039Tell me how Jews and Masons took over Serbia. Name names and methodology. Name Soro's NGOs operating in Serbia. Tell me how Christianity made Serbia survive under Ottoman rule and tell me the worst atrocities committed by Turks against Serbs. Translate and explain pic. Do it faggot Jewish tranny.
>>536978833I think the kid is already well out tho when you first start getting hints they are a sperg retard or have delayed maturing etc
>>536978396Second one is always the best in these sorts of epics. First one is usually always a gamble with some punches pulled and mistakes made. Second in epics with 3 or more, are always the refined all out money injected ones, often where the writers really hit their stride. Third is always the weakest of the first 3, and subsequent ones are always the sell out phases (sad jokes).
>>536979396It's both up because multiple things but one of the things is half of celebrities and half of young women going to doctor until they get ad(h)d or autism and then they can feel special until moving on to next thing.
>>536989190>2/3 of studentsThat's the entire point. The education system, and every other system in the world, is made by neurotypical people for neurotypical people. It's meant to be beneficial for the majority, they don't care about if you are outside of that. The neurotypical politicians, teachers, and people in general cannot relate, nor do they want to, and most aren't even interested in understanding.
>>536978358And blessed they are, not to have to deal with retard like you.
>>536978358when sin entered the world the world was cursed, all of this is fallout from that.all of creation is subjected to futility in hope of God's redemption of it.
>>536989384That was the idea to begin with. In recent decades tho they have began "caring" that there are the bottom and top students who don't get a good experience. Their solution has been to drag everyone to the lowest common denominator so no one gets a head start in life by learning faster. Someone could say this is just a way to destroy the common folk and shrink the middle class even further. So the kids who didn't get aborted by millenials will also not learn anything they could use to challenge the upper elites ever again.The problem with this engineered plan is that it still takes a lot to completely get rid of things like intelligence or beauty and such attributes, which are still 50% genetics. But they try their best with the 50% environment part.
>>536990073The jewish god's master plan was to give humans free will and then immediately afterwards say that "I knew you would you fail because I know everything beforehand but I wanted to see you fail and take agency about it and now you suffer".
>>536990161And this makes just as much sense if I was a father and had small kid who likes to put toys in their mouth and I leave poisonous toy around and know the kid will put it in their mouth when I'm not looking to "test" the kid.
>>536990161free will is the entire idea, yes. God could have created obedient little robots but a robot that is programmed to love you is meaningless, it's just acting out its programming.Allowing creation to fall with the plan of redeeming it gives the opportunity for your creations to choose to love you or choose to reject you, and that love being freely chosen is what God wants. The entire idea was God wanted to create something for Himself to live in, among people He created, but to live among people who chose to hate you is not a family that God desires, and having them be programmed to love you isn't family either, just robots.God wants a creation He can live in with a family that chose Him.
>>536978358Pretty sure autism's cause is a HUMAN developing a damaging vaccine for babies.
>>536980560Based gods a chud
>>536990468>>536978514I wasn't vaccinated. What now?
>>536990599I also never get sick
>>536990599There is more than one delivery vector for heavy metals into your brain. Which is always the result of a HUMAN deciding to place heavy metals into something you or your mom consumed (perhaps unknowingly) Considering you're in Russia, that is highly possible. No matter how you look at it, it is always a HUMAN's fault.
>>536992001If heavy metals were indeed causing autism, the prevalence of autism geographically would look completely different. At least in Europe, where it is screened for regularly (since some countries don't). You would have Eastern European countries with the highest rates within Europe, but that's not the case. However, heavy metals can lower the iq of a person, which (if starting iq is low enough) can actually be enough for a diagnosis on the spectrum (not aspergers, though). But to say that there's one thing that causes it, when the spectrum itself is so diverse, is quite funny.
>>536990388I don't see how it's not programming already. A human makes choices based on their brain chemistry, upbringing, culture, lived experiences, things like that. This 'freely chosen love' comes from a mind God constructed, and one He understands very well. How are the people who love God not just made in such a way to create that outcome?
>>536990388Free will is a necessary emotion and a social construct, but the whole thing was deterministic because God knows beforehand what's going to happen and the human weaknesses guarantee it.
>>536992313>But to say that there's one thing that causes itMy point is there is a cause and it is likely HUMAN.
>BE CHRISTKEK>BELIEVE IN JEW GOD>DIE>NOTHINGLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL
>>536990468>>536992313I mean I wonder how many controlled studies there have been about this or do you just have to be unlucky or maybe the vaccines don't all contain same shit. Is it just "luck" in a way that there needs to be certain preset genetics and when almost everyone takes the vaccines, it fucks up certain people?There's also this thing muddying waters that it has now been possible for 15-30 years to live a life where you only keep contact people with phones and computers and internet forums and the younger you are, the more likely you never knew anything else. That's impossible to control in a study nowadays because internet is almost fully integrated into daily life instead of being a niche.
>>536993084>>536993048Determinism doesn't imply that a hypothetical God knows what's going to happen. You can think about it this way: if you run a simulation, everything will play out according to the rules of the simulation, but you won't necessarily know the result in advance. Simulations are ran all the time to prove theories and see how different variables interact with each other. I'm not someone who believes this is a simulation, but determinism does not need to imply that "God" knows the result, and even in the Abrahamic faiths, it is stated that he does not.
>>536978358Who would want to be such an ass hole?
>>536978626>or take ownership of it.Why doesn't God want to take ownership for his mistakes?
>>536978481>Too delusional to know delusion when he sees it It's also just a coincidence that the freaks who are delusional enough to believe that people can chop off their genitals and graft on some new ones are overwhelmingly vision-impaired, eh, retard? I hope you get a TBI & become a drooling & pants-shitting wheelchair fag. I'm gonna point & laugh at you and tell you to just stop being poorly behaved. Dumbfuck kys
>>536993484>you might not know the end resultYes that's why humans "have free will" because we are not able to determine everything that happens. That's almost the definition of the free will that "you don't know the future".I remember from what they taught in school and church that "God is all-knowing" but some teachings may vary. He's obviously not all-knowing if he couldn't figure out Adam and Eve would fuck things up.
>>536993516I'M GODHUMANS TONGUE MY ANUS
>>536989236You're a dumb polack arent you?
>>536978358you don't understand OP, it's apart of His plan. it's His test that the autistic kid must overcome. He works in mysterious ways, it is not our place to question Him.
>>536994325DASS RIGHT YOU LITTLE SHITS
>>536978358your faggot self was one of those kids lolgo play with your dildo and stop mocking us or God
God has a plan for me. I'm based, I'm MAGA, and I'm trad! We read the bible every day and own a homestead! This is exactly what you wanted us to do! Praise God! >gives him a low functioning down syndrome child that screams and shits and punches his wife and is not cognizant enough to even conceptualize love. Oh btw you go to hell if you don't want to deal with this.
>>536983170>Gets absolutely ass blasted and says thank youYou sound vaxxed
>>536993048Because the environment that shapes each person is a result of choices of other free willed beings making choices.>>536993084He knew, and He knows who will be saved, He chooses the people who will choose Him basically. That's why the bible has statements on election, but also has all the "whomsoever" statements. The choice is there to openly make but God already knows the results, but He still puts the choice in front of people to make, It's in His character to give chances even if He knows the outcome.>>536993484No the interesting thing about God is that He knows the outcome but provides the free will and opportunities to prove Him wrong.God still has emotions in essence and emotions don't always play to cold hard rational thought. God created man, knew man was going to sin, knew the fall would happen, knew it'd cause untold suffering, but had a plan to redeem it and create something beautiful on the other side that He desired.Even that all in mind, God *regretted* creating things as He saw it actually play out, planned to wipe the entire slate clean, but then gave 1 family the chance to prove Him wrong.He still knew that sin would come right back, He still gave the chance anyway, because He still knew He had a plan to redeem it and the end result was what He wanted, to have His people in an intimate family with Him in His own creation.Isn't that a relatable desire?But He gave more chances, and more chances, and we ultimately always end up failing. So God has to go to the plan He had devised, that results in His own suffering.Have you ever had that? Where you know something is likely to go wrong but you try it anyway hoping to be wrong about that?
>>536993413Don't forget the ever increasing vaccine schedule that varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. In the 90s, SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) almost always happened around the a vaccine. SIDS has since been reclassified.
It’s over
>>536993484>and even in the Abrahamic faiths, it is stated that he does not.I don't know who you're talking about, since every time a Christian talks to me about God, they insist that He knows everything, even things that haven't happened yet. If you want to say that God isn't all-knowing, by all means. Admitting there are gaps in God's understanding would be a boon to the theist position if anything, since true omniscience causes more logistical problems than it's worth.
>>536994771>Because the environment that shapes each person is a result of choices of other free willed beings making choices.'Free-willed beings' who are in themselves being influenced by outside factors that God has control of and knows how they would change any given person's worldview.
>>536995015yup, as I said, God gives chances to prove Himself wrong.Know the outcome, do it anyway to give a chance to be wrong.
>>536995111>Know the outcome, do it anyway to give a chance to be wrong.Anon, this sentence is self-defeating. If you got something wrong then you, by definition, did not know the outcome.
>>536978358So fucking on the POINT! If "god" is real then fucing WHY does he create ppl with the wrong spirit in the wrong body giving wrong sexuality? Tell me that christcucks!I tried to fuck a girl once and when I looked at her fucking pussy I nearly fainted and throwed up. I couldn't take it anymore so I forced her over the side and fuck her anus hard and after that when she cried I sniffed her anus and knew that I was gay. I was totally sure and still is so fucking WHY would a "good" god create me like this??FUCK THIS SHIT! It's ALL fucking due to all the fucking HATRED, OPPRESSION and fucking INTOLERANCE from the christcucks and they IMPOSING their fucking unnatural morality on us that we cant fuck whatever we want, whenever we want, whomever we wanter, wherever we want!! Its OUR fucking life christcucks!!We need more pagan woman and we must be PROUD and PAGAN and STAND UP against the fucking christcucks....Soooo fucking typical christcucks....must be boring virgin cuz so afraid of girls exploring their sexuality ... baby jewsus forbid......Many of us have internalized hatred against our own sexuality thanks to hatefilled christcuck bitches like this and it is not only me saying this but also my therapist.https://x.com/ChristnNitemare/status/1896599866928726379the burning hatred will never go away.......they are faking their happiness.........always with the right gender.....the right smile.....the right hair....never frizzy or out of control curly......thinking they are so much fucking better than us........fucking up the christcuck and their shit religion and shit g-d.....i fucking hate them..Learn WHY christcuckery is the fucking MAIN ENEMY of us Whites and AFTER we have fucking smashed christcuckery can we talk about da joooz or whatever the fuck.Join us at CQ radio, now https://x.com/CQPirateRadio !!Watch Adam Green, Handsome Truth, Devon Stack/Blonde!!
>>536984132>read any of the insanely autistic 7,000 page tracts written by the Church Fathers that discuss theological questionsCool did they find an answer lmao>A rich institution helped fund schools, and hospitalsThat's great. So do other rich institutions, but you don't see me worshipping them.
>>5369841321) Catholic Church is not Christianity, if anything today as an organization can lay claim, it’s orthodoxy. 2) creating schools while paganism, Judaism created absolutely nothing, is not a leg to stand on in an argument. Whatever your position is, it falls short of what Christendom achieved. 3) maybe the Catholic Church at one point t in time could claim that it straddled Christs intentions, but it becomes extremely apparent after accepting Judeo converts in positions of authority, they became lax in western society. No matter what your angle is, Christianity has been a force of good on the degenerate world. You just hate that you’re not allowed to have anal sex
>>536994247>You're a dumb polack arent you?Why would you believe that? Don't run, explain why you would make such a remarkably stupid comment? After that, translate what is highlighted in yellow and elaborate, fake Swede
>>536989384>>536990599>>536990634>>536993484Don't run, answers the questions. If you are a Serb you would have no problem spending a few minutes answering those questions. If you are a NYC Jew, however, you will struggle. Go on.
>>536994771>The choice is there to openly make but God already knows the results, but He still puts the choice in front of people to make,So there never really was a choice but there was an emotion called free will and then possibly some introspection later where it feels like you had plenty of choices, and also God knew you would fuck up. I'm sure there's some meaning behind this but not sure yet. Considering people in common population are quite obedient and happy to not have that many choices in their lives if they and their loved ones are somewhat happy and do well. Common people generally care about choices such as what they want to eat for breakfast or evening snack or what to watch on tv/netflix.>>536994788I don't bother looking into it further other than what I previously know that the vaccine schedule (in usa) went from something like 5 vaccines to 50 or something insane. But I remember reading here that SIDS was invented as a diagnosis because there were too many bpd mothers who suffocated their child because bad feel. Like, SIDS happened almost exclusively when no one else was home but only the mother and baby.
>>536978481>it's...brain damageYes, retard. Autism occurs in the womb while you're developing. It doesn't go away as an adult either so shut your stupid nigger mouth about this "kid who does X, kid with Y" you're spouting off about.
And obviously the free will vs determinism doesn't only apply to people who suffer for 70 years and die but it obviously applies to "people who were born to succeed" to. Some of them acknowledge this correctly and feel emotions such as being thankful.
>>536995867>But I remember reading here that SIDS was invented as a diagnosis because there were too many bpd mothersUnlikely because an autopsy would show the death as show murder. Whatever was in those early vaccines was nasty.
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>>536988987>Wonder if it's really certain vaccines doing it I am medically "conservative" in that I believe (and really cite established medical science from the '80s) that there is a clearly defined clinical picture that is caused by post-viral encephalitis which can be triggered by vaccines, among other things like viruses and bacteria, that involves your auto-immune system attacking brain tissue which causes it to swell, hence destroying nerve tissue in the frontal cortex and parietal lobes. We know from historic records that kids from the age of 1 to 4 are most vulnerable to suffering very severe, very bad viral infections during that time period. We also know that there is a fixed developmental window where kids can learn things like speech, higher cognitive functioning and social skills. Post-viral ecephalitis perfectly explains a lot of autism in that it happens between the age of 1 to 4, primarily impacts social functioning and language with little impact on previously acquired skills like basic motor functioning and why so many autistic kids also suffer from epileptic seizures.High-functioning autism is something completely separate and belongs to the ADHD spectrum.
>Muh free willnormies are so hopelessly retarded. My parents are like this and they truly believe everyone just has some exact carbon copy of their exact brain, that we all just choose to use differently. Hmm, I wonder why; given the genetics & experiences/influences/circumstances that shaped him; why >the [big manly testosterone-filled lumberjack with the good family life] would never have a >0% chance of "choosing" to start identifying as >[the little pink femboy troon] or >[the weak sedentary gamer anime weeb] Or even just behaviorally >[the angry & abusive asshole] instead of [the loving & patient father/husband]; without having a TBI (or maybe experiencing some extremely traumatic event)??? Retards.
>>536995571Looks like mein kampf and no I wont translate it because I dont like doing what strangers online tell me to do.
^I fucked up green text formatting in last part. Oh well. You'll get the gist of you're not retarded.
>>536996363And not just the CDC, also the Israeli department for health care, Sweden, Australia all see massive increases in autism diagnosed at the age of 3 to 6 which is usually severe. Per the CDC, 65 % of all kids diagnosed with autism before the age of 8 are either mentally retarded or borderline retarded and that number gets worse when you limit it to infantile autism cases (before the age of 3). Obviously, it's not better identification causing the increase in prevalence. We genuinely have a lot more of these cases and since their symptoms fits post-viral encephalitis which we know can be caused by vaccines, and the vaccine schedule is the only thing that has changed significantly over the last 40 years, it is highly likely that vaccines are responsible for triggering it.
>>536978358ayys laugh at us for being so fucking stupid and I aint even mad at themif humans are a resource we have to be the lowest quality fucking resource available.
>>536978358why cant he just use his infinite power to design a world where nothing bad happens in it? it doesnt make sense that an all poweful being that can do whatever he wants would hold any kind of obligations especially to not experience suffering and evil at all
>>536978358>i'm just going to give people uncurable genetic diseases and call it a dayChristtards ignore it too
>>536995199He never gets it wrong, He is giving the opportunity to be wrong anyway. "I'm going to try something even though I know it won't work"it fits into God's character of being longsuffering.
>>536996363My theory also in this thread is that high-functioning autism / sperging is in some cases uneven and delayed maturing as a child/youth. In theory these people even out by the early adulthood from what I have observed but in practice there has always been like 20 years of constant abuse so it doesn't apply.
>>536996479>Looks like mein kampf, yeah, I can't read any Scandinavian language and I have never read Mein Kampf>Yeah, I have no idea why I said that you were Polish, but what the fuck do I care, me and the other Jews here are only paid to spam.
>>536978358Autism is a beautiful gift you are naturally against most bullshit manmade believes
>>536996884When Adam and Eve ate the fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, they were given the ability to sin, and they did, so death entered the world. Death is operating under Satan, and incurable genetic diseases are part of death and thus from Satan and not God. There is no way that you are American and ethnically White with that kind of ignorance of the religion that founded and shaped America. The religion of the forebears of White Americans. Are you Jewish and/or brown by any chance?
>>536998210And God can't stop Satan because?
>>536998353Because both Satan and humans have free will, as God is not a tyrant with robots. No good God could do that. However, God is also a just God, so there will be an end to it and judgment. Why can you answer the questions, fake Serb? >>536989236What do you think of pic, fake Serb?
>>536978358The only moral way for a conscious being to exist, is as a sovereign and free God.All else is sociopathic slave speak.
>>536998353That would interfere with free will you dunce. Atheists are the most smug people without even have read the basic tenants of Christianity
>>536998706Does God have Free Will?
>>536998706It also interferes with free will if a kid is not allowed to choose to instantly heal his own child cancer.
>>536998843but according to Christianity, the child rapist free will is much more important than a kid's free willAbrahamic and Karmic religions treat consciousness like shit. Lower than shit. Anything conscious must be a sovereign God. Or else the ontology is immoral.
>>536998911How can anyone ever feel guilty in the face of such a sick and depraved God? If Christianity were true, I'd simply laugh , even when threatened with Hell. I'd resist such a disgusting being. No conscious being should ever have to bow. Metaphysical Freedom and Godhood is the Right of all Conscious beings.
>>536998655>The only moral way for a conscious being to exist, is as a sovereign and free God.So unless a conscious being has the ability to create the universe, all living, know the future (i.e. being outside of time and space), omnipotence etc, then it is immoral for that being to exist? How do you justify that crazy statement? Are you on drugs? What is your ethnicity and religious position?
>>536998575>No good God could do that.Why not? What makes free will so good? Shouldn't I want to be controlled by an entity that is always moral?>Why can you answer the questions, fake Serb?Because you addressed them to another Serb, anon. I don't know the answer to your questions, but I can translate the photo you posted. What you have is a magazine called 'Bodljikavo prase' or 'Hedgehog' from Belgrade printed on January 3rd 1941. The bottom left is cursive for 'Darovi Bozic-bate' which isn't really common Serbian nowadays. but it's basically what they used to call Santa Claus. Nowadays we say 'Deda Mraz.' It's a political cartoon about the US bringing weapons into Europe, probably making fun of NATO influence or something, if I had to guess.
>>536978358b-based??
>>536998744Yes. He chose to create you. He didn’t have to but he did because he loves you as a father should and does.>>536998843>b-b-butPoster here explains it clearly>>536998210That is why he sent his son to give us an advantage over Satan if we choose to
>>536978358Can any Christian explain to me what was wrong with Adam and Eve that they failed to make the right choice? Something must have been wrong with them, otherwise they wouldn't have failed. What was it?
>>536998998Correct. A Conscious being should need nothing and have no masters above it.The Conscious being would still be able to play in lower states, but they are illusions. Games. Like possessing a body and living as a person for a bit.I am talking about true Heaven. Abrahamic and Karmic Religions praise metaphysical slavery.
>>536998988>self replying faggot circling his own argumentTie a millstone around your own neck jew
>>536978793Yeah maybe. But most probably it just means youre a retard
>>536979767>>536979810>be absolutely mesmerized by numbers>"Th3y'r3 MAGIK!!!! Like div8ne language!11!!"You got C's and D's in math, didn't you?
>>536999067Alright, you think it is loving to force a conscious being into a gore horror hell world in a state less than being metaphysically free.I don't see your story as something 'a loving father' would do. I see it as a psychopath making a conscious sims game and then 'tsk tsk'ing from up above in pure peace. We don't have the same values it seems.
>>536999056Oh, another Serb. Sorry>What makes free will so good? Same reason prison is a punishment>Shouldn't I want to be controlled by an entity that is always moral?Would you like to have Angels around that would beat you up, slap you or force you not to sin? That includes sinful thoughts as well. How long would you enjoy that kind of life?
>>536999576Free Will is Great, that's why the only moral way for a conscious being to exist, is as a sovereign and free God. In your religion, why does God stop with the 'free will advocacy'?I think someone should have free will to not get bone cancer. Actually, your religion seems to preach of a god who restricts free will.
>>536999576How about Free will +, where all the bad choices are removed, and only the good choices remain for us to choose? We are still free to choose, but only between the good options. All is good.What's wrong with that?
>>536978358>Give baby brain damage>Brain damage prevents them from concluding that Jesus really did come back to life.>Torture them forever because they didn't reach the right conclusion.This is what Christians mean when they say justice.
>God gave his only son to humanity as a solution for a problem he created.This whole thing is Jewish.
>>536999140>>536999805>Correct. A Conscious being should need nothing and have no masters above it.That's Satan's argument>I think someone should have free will to not get bone cancer.You don't understand the concept of free will. Free will and being free from suffering are not the same.
>>536999895>How about Free will +, where all the bad choices are removedHow would you stop, say, saying a lie? God would make you unable to utter those words? An Angel slapping you? Your brain freezing?
>>536999576>Same reason prison is a punishmentPrison is a punishment because you still have free will, it's just that your options are dramatically reduced and that disparity causes anguish. If you just don't have free will at all, then there's nothing to cause anguish.>Would you like to have Angels around that would beat you up, slap you or force you not to sin?Lolwut? I just want God to control us directly or make us in such a way that we do not sin. You don't need abusive angels for that.
>>537000208Well, the beings would have been created properly, and wouldn't want to lie in the first place.Why couldn't God created beings properly, so that they would work properly, so that nobody would get hurt as a result of things not working properly as it is now?
>>537000133So now you are defining free will as just being able to choose, even from a limited set of options.Then I think you'd have to concede to this guy's points against you;>>537000254
>>537000397sorry, I mean this guy's;>>536999895>>537000352
How about this:If an action you are about to do will result in somebody, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, then it is not the right action to do. Another, better action, such that it does not result in someone, you or anyone else, in pain or suffering, should be found and done. Only such actions should be done. No action that results in somebody in pain or suffering, can be called good. Only such actions that don't result in pain and suffering can be called good.God failed this. Why can't he be good?
>>537000254>Prison is a punishment because you still have free will,Yes, it means you take away part of the free will and you agree that is evil. Thus it would be evil for God to take away parts of our free will as well. You can argue that we don't miss what we didn't know we didn't have, but that would be the same argument as a person born into a prison; it would be evil to keep him there, whether he knew of something better or not. >Lolwut? I just want God to control us directly or make us in such a way that we do not sin. You don't need abusive angels for that.Then how would you do that practically?
>>537000397>So now you are defining free will as just being able to choose, even from a limited set of options.I don't have the ability to fly with my hands as wings. I still have free will.
>>537000397>So now you are defining free will as just being able to choose, even from a limited set of options.Is it not so now? I am unable to choose to live my life free of suffering. I am also unable to make a choice that would lead only to good choices. My choices are limited.
>>537000352>Why couldn't God created beings properly, so that they would work properlyThat's a robot, not a human. Would you do that with your kids? Operate their brain so they would always do what you wanted them to do? Or would you find that evil? If so, why? You just argued in favor of doing that.
>>537000577So if it's ok to limit choices and still call it 'free will', then why shouldn't we limit our choices some more, to only the good choices?
>>537000577>I am unable to choose to live my life free of suffering. I am also unable to make a choice that would lead only to good choices. My choices are limited.Sounds like you did that to yourself and chose not to do anything about it.
>>537000630>That's a robot, not a humanBut it's robot God wants, right? If we do not do like robots (make everything right) then we get punished. Until we become like robots, so that we do everything right, we will continue to be punished.Is this not true?
>>537000630>That's a robot, not a human.So Angels were robots? Are there only robots in Heaven? What does God want actually? Does he wants us to make the right choice or not?
>>537000692No it doesn't sound like that, it is just like i wrote it.So apparently it's fine to limit one's choices and still call it free will?
>>537000630If God created humanity to do exactly what he wants he could've done it right the first time. It's God who wants robots not humanity.
>>537000523>Yes, it means you take away part of the free will and you agree that is evil.I agree it's evil *when humans are the ones doing it to each other. No humans has inherent moral authority over another, thus no right to imprison someone else. But God is, by definition, the authority on morality. If God is perfectly good, then submitting to His will and becoming mindless robots trading a corrupted freedom for alignment with the source of goodness itself. Why shouldn't I want that? Why don't YOU want that?>Then how would you do that practically?It's God. He can do anything.
>>537000630>Would you do that with your kids?Would i create them properly if i knew how to? Xes i would. I sure wouldn't make them with a flaw and then punish them for having said flaw. Would you create your kids with a flaw that would cause them to suffer, despite knowing how to create them without that flaw?
>>537000630>Would you do that with your kids?Would i create them properly if i knew how to? Xes i would. I sure wouldn't make them with a flaw and then punish them for having said flaw. Would you create your kids with a flaw that would cause them to suffer, despite knowing how to create them without that flaw?You would rather create your kids with a flaw than without it?
>>537000972>If God is perfectly good, then submitting to His will and becoming mindless robots trading a corrupted freedom for alignment with the source of goodness itself. Why shouldn't I want that?If God can do anything. He could do that now instead of you begging for it.
>>537000630Is God a robot? Does God have free will? Can he change his mind?
>>536996045>Autism occurs in the womb while you're developingThat's evidently false and I don't know why this evidently false thing is being repeated with no end in sight. My best guess is bots.>it doesn't go away as an adult eitherWhy exactly should it not be able to go away? Since it's just a description of behavior, surely there are adults who tested positive for it as kids but now won't.
The rest of the thread shows pretty clearly that there is a major bot issue on 4chan. I also doubt that flags, some of which are known for their bad English skills, regularly provide the kind of users that use flawless standard US-American English. Normally British English is taught in Europe.
>>537000630You admitted that you believe free will is still intact even with limited options. So that means you believe that your God could have made only “Good Options” available while still preserving free will.Which leads to God arbitrarily allowing evils. And being a monster for not choosing the clearly better path.
