the government CAN afford free housing, free food, free healthcare, AND the extra cost of security personnel, but ONLY if I commit a crime?
conservative talking points are genius. like people cant figure out the difference between freedom and imprisonment. hilarious. fuck.
>>537025186They used to be able to afford it if you were mentally ill too, but somebody shut that shit down after a decade of communist propaganda.
>>537025267Communists can't tell the difference between Communism and Slavery.
>>537025267That is because to be a migger is to be a prisoner in the mind.
>>537025186It's not free: they force you to get a job under threat of various tortures for whatever farm or factory is attached to the prison, then pay you ten cents an hour for whatever it is they make and sell at full market price.
>>537025328Look at this motherfucking drone dodger right here
>>537025327communists, by definition, are the people who dont want to be enslaved. which is probably what makes you so mad about them.
>>537025382Communists, by definition, want to enslave everyone.
>Vibrant gay culturewhether you like it or not
>>537025479communists, by definition, are the people who do not want to be enslaved.
>>537025610But that's wrong. They praise slavery, and every communist party has enslaved their own people. Even cursory glances at their rhetoric will reveal they want to enslave everyone.
>>537025509
>>537025672communists, by definition, are the people who do not want to be enslaved.
>>537025186Why can't landlords buy prison cells and rent them to inmates in exchange for labour?
>>537025709Under capitalism, one person steals $100 from youUnder communism, 100 people steal $1 from you and they call that """freedom"""
>>537025186>he government CAN afford free housing, free food, free healthcare, AND the extra cost of security personnel, but ONLY if I commit a crime?You must prove you are worthy.
>>537026004under communism, no one's stealing from anyone. thats the point of it. by definition.
>>537025709They openly advocate for slavery. By definition they are people who want to enslave everyone.
>>537026069Communism openly promotes theft. That's the entire point.
>>537025186or if you show up from a complete shithole with a vague desire for 'le better life'
>>537026109>>537026072communists, by definition, are the people who oppose the enslavement and robbery.youre angry about communists because you want to commit theft.
>>537025382>They're going to accomplish this by making sure everybody has a place to live, free housing, free food, free medical care>All you have to to is work the job they assign you.
>>537026158Communism openly advocates for theft and murder.
>>537026069>by definition>>537026158>by definition.don't you think it's a pretty big coincidence that any time somebody claims to be implementing communism, they stop following their own definitions?They say one thing and do the opposite.
>>537026180your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. shocking. who would have thought?
>>537026230>>537026210your characterization of your political opposition is a deliberate mischaracterization. unexpected. who would have thought right-wing political actors would do this?>>537026210communists, by definition, are the people who oppose the theft.but probably not the murder, because wealthy people should be murdered if they continue to enslave and rob everyone for-profit.
>>537025331So a more exaggerated form of standard wage slavery.
>>537026158The political ideology that talks about being theiving slavers, that when it gains power every time has become theiving slavers, has nothing to do with slavery and theft? Bullshit. Communism is the ideology of theft and slavery.
>>537026348you seem to have a religious, or cult-like view of the supposed virtues of communism. But theyr'e just ideals that don't work in the real world.>God is infallible. >Anything God says is automatically true because he's infallible. >Communism is infallible>Anything we steal, we're actually un-stealing, so they person we stole it from must have been a thief see how crazy that sounds?
>>537026499your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?
>>537026529your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?
>>537026251> deliberate mischaracterizationsYes. That's what communism is, a deliberate mischaracterization of what you're going to get when the revolution is done.Hint: You don't get shit.
>>537026547They're not mischaracterizations, and you know that. A cursory glance of the theory and/or history of communism reveals that it is nothing more than the ideology of the slaver. It is the ideology of the thief. You know this, so why do you lie about it?
>>537026348See, if it was yours in the first place and the Billionaires got it, it's because you voluntarily gave it to them by being a materialistic consoomer.
boring. just boring wasting time with these people. obvious bullshitters.
>>537026629>obvious bullshitters.Your only counter argument thus far has been Nuh-uh.You didn't even argue about the murder part you just dropped into "Yeah, but they'll deserve it for being better than me".
>>537026619>>537026597your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?>>537026625your theft of working class labor and resources is not voluntary.
>>537025186actually a lot of prisons are privately owned.
>>537026682For it to be theft, you would have to have owned it in the first place, you fucking Nigger.
>>537026682Working class don't have resources.
>>537026690Government pays them.
>>537026681your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?but i acknowledge the part about murdering the wealthy exploiters of the working class are right. i am not like you and i acknowledge facts when theyre real.
>>537026682And now you continue to lie. Despite knowing you're lying, and despite everyone here knowing you're lying. What do you have to gain from obvious lies?
>>537026716You're not my political opposition, you're my enemy.
>>537026716You don't aknowledge facts, or you would aknowledge communism is the ideology of theives and slavers. It's right on the tin.
>>537026702>>537026694it is owned. but you have stolen it from The People through your corrupt control of property law, and government.
>>537026690farms too
>>537026768>Your problem is you don't understand that your part of that big bag IS the small bag, regardless of who is in charge, because there's a million more small bags in that big bag that go to a million more laborers like yourself.
>>537026743fine. then:your characterizations of your enemy are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?>>537026724your characterizations of your political opposition are deliberate mischaracterizations. astonishing. who would have thought a right wing political actor would do this?
>>537026768If it could make you rich, why didn't you get rich?
>>537026754by definition, communists are the people who are opposed to the thievery and enslavement.and i acknowledge facts of my views when they are accurate.
>>537026846
>>537025186America could also have free healthcare and end homelessness all while still having the strongest military in the world.
>>537026799And you continue to lie. Why? Does it not upset you that you lie endlessly and blatantly? That you lie in service of the most repugnant and reprehensible ideology mankind has ever produced? For what purpose do you continue these lies? If you succeed at your aim, you will be stolen from. You will be enslaved. Why do you want that for yourself? Why do you want that for others? How deep is the well of spite within you? Is there even humanity left under it all?
>>537026794you will face justice for your theft from the working class within your lifetime.
>>537026846By definition, communists are slavers and theives. Every time they have risen to power they have become murderous slavers and theives. So, you do not aknowledge facts when they are accurate. Why do you lie that you do?
>>537025267i dont get your point why not make a "prison" complex then for the population in which they also just can leave and return as they want like its their home.
>>537026794capitalism is so successful that even people making minimum wage now look like the guy on the right of that picture.
>>537025186actual question why isnt the goverment making a large "prison" for the normal population as home.. instead of letting the homeless rot in the street.Just take the amount of funding that is for "fighting" homelessnes and build a gigantic complex in which anyone can go to and sleep etc
>>537026919You're not working class.
>>537027121homeless people won't even stay in regular homeless shelters. what the fuck makes you think they will stay in one built like a prison?they would rather sleep on the streets. they're mentally deranged or strung out on drugs
>>537027121Most of the Homeless are literal schizophrenics and others with debilitating mental illness. We had asylums for them which were shut down because Faked Stanford studies and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest said they were cruel and Jews argued in court that it was a violation of the rights of the mentally incompetent to keep them "locked up".
>>537027329Homeless shelters are LITERALLY worse than actual prison living conditions, especially low-security federal prisons.Some of them are just giant open rooms with bunk beds stacked next to each other and no privacy>>537027329>they would rather sleep on the streets. they're mentally deranged or strung out on drugsOkay so what about the homeless people who don't have severe mental health issues or drug addictions, unless you're so fucking retarded and delusional you think they don't exist?You are so stupid you think the most OBVIOUS kind of homeless is the ONLY kind of homeless because you're a retardThe guy living in his car and showering at Planet Fitness or someone living in a motel are both homeless
>>537027371>>537027458
>>537025186It gives niggers and jeets all kinds of free shit so they can commit crimes.
>>537027458The "got his shit together" homeless person is the vanishing minority of homeless, and they're fine staying in the current shelters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salience_(neuroscience)You are suffering from salience bias, which is a sign of low IQIt's when you over-estimate something just because it's more obviousThe red dot is the severely mentally ill homeless man on the streetBecause that red dot is more OBVIOUS, you think it's the ONLY dot.The other blue dots are people living in their cars, living in motels, living temporarily with family/friends, living in the woods, or keeping a low profileAll of which are homeless
>>537027509>>537027615
>>537027652I'm aware that man is telling on himself dramatically in that post. Thank you for highlighting it.
>>537027458The "Staying in a hotel" and "Staying in his car" people are only technically homeless as they're not sleeping in the streets and *do* have a roof over their heads. That's a problem that could be solved by bringing back things like Boarding Houses where they can pay for room and board, but bureaucracy has shut that shit down now too.BUT the problem ones, the vast *vast* majority, are the mentally ill. If the Mentally Ill were put back in asylums, the resources we already have for the Homeless could be freed up to help those who aren't mentally ill.
>>537027615You're lying about the stats unless you're also counting couch surfers and literally anybody else who has a roof over their head but doesn't have a lease or their own property.They're only "Technically" homeless.
>>537025267>be retard>get presented a simple as fuck metaphor>NO NOT LIKE THAT"Conservative" talking points are basic logic. Seriously, if you want free shit just get your dumb ass imprisoned. The homeless figured that shit out in hard winters.Yes. A homeless person is both smarter and more practical than you. Odd, no?
That’s one of the stupidest paragraphs I’ve ever read> free food and housing but ONLY if I commit a crime?The alternative is to kill you, so pick one. It is one of the great successes of western civilization that we don’t simply kill or dismember criminals. We have the luxury of keeping them alive and robbing them of time, of an amount proportional to the severity of their crime. How dare you complain about this, you fucking retard. This is where “free xyz” ought to go. So we can afford to be magnanimous and fair as opposed to barbaric. Not to ensure the comfort the faggot OPs.>freeImagine being an adult and thinking this is a real thing. Your politics are robbing people who have more than you but dressing it up in fake sophisticated verbosity so you have the approval of your conscience.
>>537027727>>53702778199% of mentally ill people are not homelessYou are so fucking stupid and retarded you are confusing three different issues1) Homelessness2) Mental illness3) Drug addictionTHESE ARE 3 SEPARATE THINGS YOU FUCKING LOW IQ RETARDYOU CAN HAVE ANY ONE OF THESE THINGS WITHOUT THE OTHER 2
>>537027806>THESE ARE 3 SEPARATE THINGS YOU FUCKING LOW IQ RETARDNo. They aren't. I don't know what commie college course you learned about this from, but I learned about this by actually working with the homeless.
>>537025267/pol/ is the lowest IQ board on 4chan
>>537027890Then you and the rest of you faggots in this thread know what to do
>>537027806>I'm in a failure to read contest and my opponent is bulgarian.In america, the vast majority of our homeless have mental disorders and/or drug addiction. To the level the other types of homeless don't really exist here.
>>537027833I literally believe you and the other "people" in this thread are paid shills by government agencies or corporations to come here and argue against anti-capitalist rhetoric.Kill yourself you piece of shit, you will be going to hell when you die.Land rent should literally be banned, it should be illegal to claim you "own" land you don't personally live on and then charge rent/interest
>>537027921*AND they strain the resources we have for the homeless as a result.>>537027949Government Agents and their shills don't admit that the government fucked up.
>>537027949The foreigner is how that man takes the cookies. Since you simp for the foreigner, it must be assumed you simp for the capitalst.
>>537027890So low IQ, in fact, that people come from other boards to tell us this.Hmm. How...odd.
>>537025267Liberal talking points are exactly as retarded >man lists company as public >set shares at 135$ >as a percentage if people buy them company is valued at 2 trillion based on percentage >retards buy OMFG THERE SHOULDNT BE TRILLIONAIRES! WTF TAKE HIS MONEY
>>537027921i dont think thats true.. but even if why would you want homeless mentally ill people on the street instead of a large complex that anyone can choose to go to sleep for a night or when the weather is shitty.. like just use the homeless funds that evidently have not solved the problem and build a "prison" in which anyone can go or leave as they please it would probably be even cheaper then the billions wasted of homeless funds that get missuesd by thirdparties and inbetweens anyway since they have a incentive of keeping homelessnes going to get goverment funds.
>>537028071>unrealized stock gains aren't real wealthIf unrealized stock gains aren't real wealth, I guess you would no problem banning taking loans out against them, or just giving them to other people?Fucking dumbass low IQ take>>537027971>>537028009Who pays you? Tell me, I know you're paid to post pro-capitalist rhetoric here. You should literally fucking kill yourself.
>>537027949the weakness in this image is that without the brown foreigner present, the jew would have to be more creative into getting the white man to blame someone other than him. having mass immigration leads to an easy target, easy division. something the ancient greeks themselves noticed in their city state experiments over two thousand years ago. that diversity is easily exploited by tyrants. among many other weaknesses.basically you're fucking dumb and the browns need to go
>>537028163Every single time I post this image I get some low IQ fucking retard who goes>YEAH BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MIGRANT?That's basically the point of the image, you're ignoring the capitalist shareholder/creditor who is taking the vast majority of wealth created by laborers while he does nothing productive and generates no real world value
>>537028098That is illegal. We used to do that. They were called asylums. The left threw a shitfit to destroy that system and they succeeded. Our current shelters are what we can do, legally. They turn away the violently mentally ill, and those with severe drug addictions as those people pose a threat to others staying there, and the staff. Since most of our homeless are mentally ill and/or have severe addictions, they tend to be underutilized.
>>537027949Fixed.
>>537028227You don't know what wealth is. If you did you'd stop spending your money on weed.
>>537028155I am not paid for telling the truth. You often aren't. I hope you are being paid for your lies. The elite know that class is a spook, and they push class rhetoric. They despise racial organization because it is real and it threatens their power base. You want to punch the elite in the face? Remove the foreigner.
>>537025186So if you want your free shit go pass a note at a bank or something. What's holding you back?
>>537028240>>537028323>>537028329The large majority of homeless people do not have disruptive mental issues.Here's how it should work>do you have disruptive mental health and behavioral issues?No, then here is your free apartment>You do?THEN, and only then, are you offered a more structured facilityYou are a delusional fucking low IQ retard who literally thinks1) Homelessness2) Mental illness3) Drug addictionAre all the same thing, absolute fucking retard 60 IQ capitalist bootlicker
>>537028227>id hoppingWell done. You apparently aren't too good at the thinking thing. The foreigner is the lynchpin of the cookie kingpin's power. Remove him, and they lose control. You're being advised on effective practice, and are rejecting it because you've been totally captured by the propaganda of the cookie monster.
>>537025382Bro, theft from other people is literally baked into the fucking operations manual from the OG himself - Marx. The whole core philosophy requires you accept slavery as a core acceptable principle. Because the ONLY way you can steal from others long term is to make them slaves. People do not like having shit taken from them. The only way you institutionalize stealing from people is slavery. And Marx made it very fucking clear the slavery type you were to be under was Chattel Slavery - you get only what you NEED, and no more. That's chattel slavery, where you are basically fed and kept alive just enough to keep you picking the cotton for the regime.
>>537028155>He borrowed against his wealthLiterally nobody is stopping you from doing the same thing.Take the moeny you were going to spend on weed and pussy this week and put it into Robinhood. Apply for Margin. Buy a stock. Heck, buy SpaceX. Then you can borrow against it too.You dumb Nigger, you have to pay back what you borrow and that creates a taxable event.
>>537028397The large majority of homeless do in fact have severe mental illness and/or drug addictions. Please interface with reality.
>>537025267FPBP Truthnuke
>>537028397>The large majority of homeless people do not have disruptive mental issues.Yes. They do.You have ZERO statistics to back up your bullshit, so the only way your story works is if you count people who don't have their own lease or house as homeless.
>>537025186the government can't afford shit, you're paying for it with your taxes
>>537028417>>537028448>>537028404>>537028405The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who do produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028505>Taking LaborYou don't work, what are you complaining about?
>>537025267>>537026975So you are in an open air prison already, but you have the illusion of freedom which makes you placated while congress sells your nigger dalit family asses into further waves of fiat debt scams, handled by the expert doctors and professors and police chiefs and war machinery that’s been fucking the entire world for over 100 years already, at the expense of all the good innocent men who actually gave a fuck about your lives who died in combat as they were born under mountains of lies.At least you can heckin drive to buccees though right niggers?39 trillion, you paying that back right?Kushner needs his own, bigger epstein island, goy!Away from all of you, of course.
>>537028546The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028505>THIS guy with trillions of dollars is the problem>t. CommunistSo why do you take me at a rate that Billionaires didn't even pay a hundred years ago?
>>537028505I agree on fuck the banks, but you're incorrect about the rest.
>>537028583>>537028595The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028571Tranny Discord raid?
>>537028653Now you're doing the lying thing again. Why? What does it serve? You wish to be enslaved? You can do that for yourself. For moral reasons, please leave others out of it.
>>537028794>>537028842You're paid to post here, what do you care?You are LITERALLY paid by an agency/corporation to post pro-capitalist rhetoric on /pol/, no one else would post this garbage.The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028653
>>537028842>>537028863>>537028893The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028227that is my point. you really are retarded. and so are countless others, which is why even if your fantasy fairy tale where tens of millions of third worlders suppressing wages and competeing for housing WASN'T a problem, that retarded voters would be easily fooled into thinking they were by manipulative wealthy people anyway.meaning, the brown people are still a problem. you are not smart.
>>537028869>Trans faggots produce nothing of value
>>537028936How much do they pay you per post?The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537028475>your taxesIncorrect. It’s always other people’s taxes. And I think they know this, they’re just fine with it. Its the economic policy of literal apes, if they could organize and form polities and governments. “Grug tribe kill and loot Thunk tribe, take all berries for Grug”
>>537026004Bro, that is understating how evil and bad commies are: you could be a farmer growing just enough shit for your family and have a bit to sell to others and commies would KILL YOU AND YOUR FAMILY for being capitalist pig-dogs. That is right, just because you made a bit of money, you were SENTENCED TO DEATH by commies under their ideology. Being a poorfag under commies meant slavery. You lived in a little gray commie block apartment cell - EXACTLY LIKE PRISON - you got whatever little bit of food the state allowed you to have, and you were never allowed luxuries. Want a car? Be on a waiting list and you BEST be sucking the party's dick at all times. You need to be on the list of best dick suckers of all time to even have a hope of getting a shitbox the commies made. Hell, you wanted to work out? That was ILLEGAL for commies. They had to build illegal basement gyms. How dare you want to be fit like the American capitalist pig-dogs! Stealing was the national culture. Commies stole coolant from planes to get drunk. Commies stole scrap iron from slave work to make gym equipment. Commies stole fucking EVERYTHING, they needed dual custody locks for all their shit to even try to curb theft. Commies lived like exactly like prison slaves do. Eating shit food, living in a gray concrete box, stealing whatever they could that wasn't nailed down, and concocting whatever toilet shit possible to get drunk and cope with the hell that is prison life, I mean commie life. And thanks to YT showing us ex-cons content - we know excons get nostalgia for prison life! That is right, commies will romanticize their shit hole life just like prisoners did. The parallels are crazy.
>>537025267No it's a real thing, they call it "Communism" this Karl guy wrote a few books about it a hundred years ago, people still advocate for it today.
>>537028963tens of millions of brown immigrants = does nothing of value, distracts from the real problems you are describing while giving corporations and billionaires cheap labor and propped up predatory housing and vehicle loan systems
>>537028505>steals money from workers who generate valueWhat do you do for work? What value do you generate? Who comes along and steals all your money?
>>537028869I'm not, and that you keep insisting that means maybe you have a guilty conscience. If you believe in the goals you espouse, racial organization is the path. You must remove the foreigner, which is why the whole system is throwing fits about it. They are organizing around something real, which is more effective than organizing around something fake.If you truly belive in communism, let me tell you a thing. If you know communism is a cynical ploy, and you are already in a position of oiligarchical power, you're making a rational decision.If you are not, you've been oneshot by the propaganda of those you claim to hate.
>>537029073he also wrote an entire book about the jews and the problems they cause.
>>537029055>>537029073>>537029130>>537029154>>537029163Jeff Bezos makes $8 million dollars an hourThat's the equivalent of paying 400,000 workers $20/hWhere do you think the money comes from? Thin air? It comes from other people working and generating value, but it's not going to them.Jeff Bezos does nothing, if he died nothing at Amazon would cease to functionHe is just an example of the ownership class and capitalism.The problem is most people are lumpenproletariat, they don't understand that the money was stolen from workers. When rich people make money without working it means an equal amount of money is taken from the workers who generated that value, it is zero-sum outside of printing new money.
>>537028155Im against borrowing off unrealized wealth but im also for crucifying and skinning people like you alive in public because you are pro nigger apologists that hate western civilization. We have similar enemies but id rather bury you to your neck in sand and let ants kill you then have your vision win.
>>537028405Yeah but if you don’t call it slavery, then it’s no longer slavery. It’s “the equitable distribution of wealth”, not “making people give up their shit at gunpoint so we can keep 90% and give you 10%”. It’s called being a heckin good empathetic person, you should try it sometime.All that communism has going for it, literally the only reason it has support outside extremely poor people, is because it has the appearance of being compassionate. It’s fashionable and safe to support it as an economic doctrine. That, and, well, envy is eternal and robbing people is a totally valid economic policy in the same way that killing people is an argument. It’s not but it’s also the default argument that beats everything else.
>>537029202you ignored me again. you're not very smart.tens of millions of brown foreign people who hate white people are not compatible with a healthy socialist system where white people participate. your own dumbass cookie posts literally debunk yourself by demonstrating one of the core problems of multiculturalism and how easily it's exploited by the wealthy. which is only a fraction of the issues, but one you are pointing out yourself without realizing it.
>>537029202Do you know amazon deliberately pushes diversity on their warehouse employees to prevent unions and other forms of organization?
>>537029202>Guy posts earnings report>WHOAH HE MADE 8 MILLION DOLLARS IN AN HOUR HIS STOCK WENT UPWhat do you think happens when the CEO sells off all of his stock from the company he's running idiot?
>>537026251>deliberate mischaracterizationsYes they are. Anon is vastly understating the horror that real life commies actually are. Anon was far too kind, he assumed the commies would give you a job! HAHAHAHAH, commies would fucking KILL YOU dead, rape your wife, rape your mom, rape your daughter, then kill all three if you were deemed a capitalist pig-dog, which by the way was what THEY chose to label you, not what you called yourself. Just like how modern trust fund kids are seething online about punching nazis, real life commies want to bring violence to their fellows, and it sure doesn't fucking matter if they are right or wrong about you. You will receive their violence, and it will be righteous because it is them, the anointed, doing it. Or do you fucks think Putin doesn't yoink all the political dissenters and drop them in the gulag or kill them? Because that shit is ON VIDEO ONLINE for your dumb ass to watch. Commies do not like anyone who don't toe their exact ideological line. Everyone who doesn't toe that line gets MURDERED. Bullets to the back of the head. Commies are not nice people. They are the absolute scum of the earth, and need to be exterminated. They are the worst little tinpot dictators, and they will not hesitate to steal from anyone, be it a grandma or a random dude. All the cringe talking points about billionaires goes right out the window when its time for action - commies go straight for their enemies and murder them at genocidal levels. The billionaires are perfectly safe under commie rule - they are party members after all, with a nice little security force that curb stomps the commie activist. Better to rule a prison nation than a free nation after all! Those fucking annoying capitalists have free choice what to buy! That makes the billionaire commie SEETHE. How dare the capitalist consumer demand quality! You will accept the Lada shitbox quality and be happy damnit! If you aren't, a bullet to the head is acceptable!
>>537029202>Jeff Bezos makes $8 million dollars an hourCitation needed.>Where do you think the money comes from?You tell us, you're the one who just made that shit up. >Jeff Bezos does nothing(You) do nothing. Jeff Bezos build an online bookstore that revolutionized online retail, logistics, and became one of the largest players in web hosting services. Tell us precisely how you feel your are the one who is actually entitled to own a piece of Amazon?>they don't understand that the money was stolen from workersHelp us understand. Tell us what (You) do for work and who is stealing all your money.>the workers who generated that valueWhat value do you generate?
>>537029415>>537029473>>537029315>>537029283>>537029488>unrealized stock gains aren't real wealthIf unrealized stock gains aren't real wealth, I guess you would have no problem banning taking loans out against them, or just giving them to other people?Fucking dumbass low IQ take
>>537029283NTAThat’s a good point. The sort of economic outcomes commies want, achieved through some form of socialism, really only works with certain genetic stocks. Communism in America with a billion different openly hostile tribes sharing the same territory is an absurd proposition. But if the country were made up of a genetic stock, like the whites, capable of conscientiousness, capable of coupling well with a high tech economy/enviornment, and all of the same race so everyone else’s well being is of greater concern to you than some random nigger, then socializing everything might actually work and won’t be disastrous. There would be minimal waste and the sum total of entitlements would be minimal since like I said, everyone couples well with this particular environment/economy. Vs communism in a country with niggers, where the slightest change or hiccup in the system means vast swaths of niggers starve to death, loot, riot, cannibalize each other, etc. Socialism is a viable proposition only in the places that have zero need for it.
>>537029531I don't get it. So Jeff Bezos shows up to some office somewhere, punches a clock, then at the end of the week he gets a paycheck for 8 million X however many hours on his time card?What do you do for work and why are you so worried about what Jeff Bezos does with his company?
>>537029531I see you're ignoring me. It's true. As unions can be a problem for a corporation, corporations study unions. They want to know effective ways to prevent their employees unionizing, as you well know. You know the literal best thing to do? Diversify the worksite. Homogenous groups naturally band together, and attempt unionization. Diverse groups largely do not. This is not a new finding, though amazon released a report on it. It's been a well known truth since aristotle. The other anon has been trying to explain this to you.
>>537029684>>537029703Jeff Bezos makes $8 million dollars an hour averaged outEven while he is sleeping or masturbatingThat's the equivalent of paying 400,000 workers $20/h at all timesWhere do you think the money comes from? Thin air? It comes from other people working and generating value, but it's not going to them.What do you think corporate profit is? It is the excess value generated by workers, that doesn't go to them, but instead shareholders who did nothingJeff Bezos is just an example of the ownership class and capitalism.
>>537029703What do you do for work? Are you in a union? Tell us about the last time your union did anything for you but take your dues? Why not tell us about what you do for work, all the value you create, and who is stealing it all?
>>537026681The ideology is actually what drives them, it literally legitimizes theft. It has ZERO protections against who can/can't be murdered, and that definition of "need" is very flexible. Marx was just a retarded trust fund kid who hadn't experienced any real violence or safety threat, so he assumed people were way better than they really are. Leading to no "right to life" under commie theory. Which leads to:>You don't need your life if you aren't a comrade.>You don't need any of your shit, we need it more. >Lets dump all the dissenters into a camp>All women should provide sex for the greater social good>Oh, you starved, too bad, society >>> you>Oh, but don't worry, the elite Jews and billionaires will be kept because they are in charge though. What, you thought we hated them? HAHAHAHAH, no we love and worship Jews under communism. Communism is both bad on paper and bad in real life. People love it though because it promises free shit for them, the party members. But they ignore the downside: anyone not a party member gets shat on because civil rights under communism don't exist. Marx never made it clear that human beings have civil rights and you cannot violate them as party members. So don't be shocked when commies commit genocide - they think it is right by their ideology.
>>537029858>>537029877The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537029779>Jeff Bezos makes $8 million dollars an hour averaged outSo every week he just gets a check for 8 million dollars for every hour of that week?>Where do you think the money comes from?I don't believe he is getting a check for hundreds of millions of dollars every week, but feel free to prove that is happening.>the excess value generated by workersSo what do you do for work and how much of that 8 million dollars an hour do you feel you are generating? Who exactly is taking all your value and then writing a check to Jeff Bezos every week with all of it?
>>537029858I am not pro union, my friend. I am speaking to the commie in terms he understands. There are benefits to homogenous high trust societies.>>537029779>screeching in pain.If this is news to you, i'm sorry anon.
>security personnelLMAOThe guards just stand there while chomos loners autists and druggies get curbstomped off the block.
>>537029531>Guy points out that stock gains after an earnings report isn't an hourly wage>Chimps outJeff Bezos does not have 20 Trillion dollars. He doesn't have a secret vault where he's hiding his 20 trillion in assets. He isn't getting 8 million dollars an hour. It was a temporary 11% increase in his stock valuation that went back down over the next two weeks to 2% higher. Overestimating how much money someone is making by 1250% is not a small mistake. If you spend like you have 1250% higher tax revenue than you could possibly make at a 100% tax rate is how you collapse economies. This is how you end up printing worthless trillion dollar bills.
>>537029916>If I repeat my retardation enough times it'll become true and I'll be a real woman.Why not tell us what you do for work, comrade?
>>537029985>>537030025>>537030061>>537030068It's unrealized stock gains Stock gains are based on corporate profitProfit is excess value generated by workers that don't go to the workers who generated it, but instead shareholders who did nothing
To make an open concept gated community with shared dining, leisure, and laundry facilities work you'd need to block out the undesirables (ie blacks) and ensure all members of the community have some form of work to contribute to the facilities beyond the bare minimum provided by the government. You'd also need to keep a certain number of rooms capable of holding single, shared, and family occupancy and provide facilities for all the age groups.Any actual attempt at this would just turn into section 8 with extra steps.
>>537029877So it's exactly like fascism, except it's "party member" instead of "race."
>>537030025I've belonged to two (very large) unions, and I can assure you they do fuck-all for you besides take your dues and lean on you to vote democrat.
>>537030165I am well aware the problems with unions. The commies are, as always, lost in the dream. It's why utopians are dangerous.
>>537030253How much do you get paid per post, do you get paid per post?Like how the fuck did you get this job?
>>537026846> opposed to the thieveryMarx himself is directly advocating for theft. It's in the fucking guiding principles up front. Did you miss the abolition of private property? THAT IS THEFT YOU NIGGER. It's a nice pretty euphemism for theft, but it still organized theft. If you grow some shit in your garden, it's not yours, it's OURS under communism. You get to eat it only if WE THE COLLECTIVE allow you to. Commies redefine theft to be from THEM, and not from you. You have no rights under communism. The collective has all the rights and protections. If you are a threat to the collective, you are to be eliminated. Civil rights: free speech, right to life, right to property - these are all bourgeoisie, and therefore the enemy. Commies do not value it nor protect them. Free speech means wrong think. Right to property is fundamental to capitalism. Right to life means you can exist counter to the party. Those are all intolerable to commies.
>>537030087>It's unrealized stock gainsSo every single day Amazon stock gains in value? Sounds like an infinite free money glitch, why don't you start buying shares? It's like seizing the means of production except without all the gulags, mass graves, and starvation.>Stock gains are based on corporate profitFascinating. Where did you learn that?>Profit is excess value generated by workersSo what exactly do you do for work and how much value do you typically generate in a day?
>>537030087>still screeching.Maybe take a walk. Get a breath of fresh air. Do something good for yourself.
>>537030329>>537030341>>537030344How much do you get paid to post pro-capitalist propaganda on 4chan?The biggest problem that exists is that capitalists who produce no real-world value are taking value generated by other peopleShareholder = Does nothing of value, passively steals money from workers who generate valueCreditor = Does nothing of value, passively steals money via interest from other people (original loan typically created out of money that never existed)Landlord/real-estate "investor" = Does nothing of value, buys housing that they don't live in so they can hold it hostage and passively steal money from other people, it is the same exact concept of scalping Pokemon cards but with housing
>>537029703>wanna know the best thing to do?Do a union's job...for them so they never have a reason to form?Hmm. You seem to not understand why unions form.
>>537030311I do not get paid for posting the truth, as I said earlier. If you are a real person, i'm sorry you are learning this on 4chan of all places.
>>537025186or if you join the military
>>537030403People can have legitimate grievances with their bosses and workplaces. I do not deny that people who are better to work for don't have to worry about unions as much. Amazon is a famously shitty company to work for, so it's something they game against.
>>537030632>nuh uh I'm not wrongShut the fuck up.Repeat after me."That's a good point. I forgot to address it from the angle of deliberately not being a massive piece of shit."Good luck, obvious hostile countersignaler.
>>537026918Commies consist of these groups:1. Jews who stand to profit as the "party" who rules over the slaves (Marx is the founding Jew)2. NEETs who cannot produce anything in life and want a free ride handed to them3. Feminists & xenophiles who want to baby the rest of the under developed world, which is a form of maternal enslavement4. Useful idiots who fell for the meme who may or may not be able to produce shit (they will be killed and exploited). We know them as Simps in the modern era. From there you will see commies are essentially women, minorities, and Jews oligarchs who rule them, with a simp underclass. Communism is peak Jewish culture - the Jews get to run the top as the "party" while all the goyim work as slaves under them, and the useless people - the women and other supportive idiots - get taken care of by other slaves. Anyone who goes against Jews gets eliminated. Now just because Jews came up with it, doesn't mean other races can't copy-paste it to become their own Jewish-style dictator. Which is what happened for some asian countries, China included. This is why China is consistently wowed by Jewish control of the West and America, and they actively study the Jew to improve their own local control. (FYI: Jews are very integrated with the CCP, we just aren't allowed to talk about them, same with Russia)
>>537030399I get paid 8 million per hour to steal value from unemployed and unemployable trannies.
>>537030706"That's a good point. I forgot to address it from the angle of deliberately not being a massive piece of shit."Now if you will permit me a defense, I was speaking to a communist and trying to use a point of view he would be familiar with. Coming at that angle was the deliberate point. I agree, treat your employees better.
>>537030823>>537030760Yall, when is it time to admit that communism is the superior system?Even North Korea has nuclear weapons and free healthcare and no homeless people, despite being the most sanctioned country on EarthChina is 70% communist, all the important stuff is state run, the other 30% is private.USA is 100% capitalist meaning shareholders make all the decisionsNews flash! Shareholders would kill you if it was legal and made them $1 richer, that's not the most efficient system for humanity
Death is preferable to being imprisoned. Even if for a brief moment of time.Try to put me in a cage and all bets are off, your either going to have to kill me or I will kill you. I live my life how I please until it is through one way or another, what others think of it be damned. The fear of death and the love of life at all cost is a disease that robs you of ever truly living. It has made men cowards addicted to appeasing insatiable tyrannical authority at any cost, willing to waste their lives toiling for another's gain so long as they are rewarded with some base creature comforts.Life is finite and short while death is inevitable and eternal. Yet so many fear it even though they knew it before they were born and know it every time they sleep. It is a fools fear fed to the slave masses of the world through religion which gives you the illusion of life beyond death so that you will tolerate servitude and misery in the only life to live so that you can hopefully get a so called better afterlife.To truly live you have to accept that your already a dead man walking.
>>537025186Post my version with Jewish Pigger faggots on the other side of that meme, too, Anon
>>537029988Your BBC Big Bacterial Claws Anon
>>537027949Give the nigger a smaller but good sized pile, and another nigger in cahoots with the jew with a suit pointing ... Basically repost my version of this Anon
>>537030087>Work for one month at Amazon>Invest 1,000 dollars in Amazon, quit job>In four days you have 22,439,127 dollars, and 36 cents thanks to the 11% hourly stock price increase, and the power of compounding interest. >Withdraw 1 Million Dollars, leave the other 21 Million in.>By the end of the week you have more money than real life Jeff>By the end of the month you have more money than the US Economy>Before the next dawn you have more money than all countries combined>By 43 days you have more money than the combined income of every man who ever livedAlternatively, you are a fucking retard, and looking at an hour when a stock price jumped, and assuming that's an hourly wage, or profit is fucking stupid.
>>537025186Free sex too
>>537025186Yeah, they outsourced prisons to Wackenhut Corrections Corporation, The GEO GroupCorrections Corporation of America, CoreCivicCornell Corrections, Cornell CompaniesCorrectional Services Corporation, CSCCommunity Education Centers, CECGeneral Telephone & Electronics Inmate Services, Global Tel*Link, GTL, ViaPath TechnologiesBehavioral Interventions Inc., BI IncorporatedCorrectional Medical Services, Corizon HealthCorrect Care Solutions, WellpathMHM Services, Centurion HealthManagement and Training Corporation, MTCLaSalle Corrections, LaSalle CorrectionsEmerald Correctional Management, Emerald Correctional ManagementYouth Services International, YSIKeefe Group, TKC HoldingsTrinity Services Group, TKC HoldingsCommissary & Telephone Systems, TKC HoldingsAramark Correctional Services, Aramark Correctional Services...All these kiked shyster jew-scum companies turn what could be a corrective system into a fucking money making rape nightmare shitfuck.So yeah, not even prisons are US run anymore. Run by kike companies.
>>537031207Massive cope post. This is an anonymous board. Why posture? Everyone would sooner accept imprisonment before death. It’s why death is a penalty on a higher rung than mere time behind bars. >you will kill me or I will kill youThis is what’s happening in the nigger brain every time they shoot it out with the cops. Because they sincerely believe they will win a gunfight drawing against 4 already drawn guns. You have the same mistaken assumption. Your options are not imprisonment vs death vs killing. They are imprisonment vs death. No third option of thugging it out with an army of men and emerging triumphant.
>>537033063Then hypothetically kick their faggot pigger reptile glow nigger "fellow white" asses if there is a problem before making separations to not coexist with (((them and / or those))) anymore, Boot Lick Anon
>>537031793The girls are all egalitarian until it comes to the equal distribution of the means of reproduction, then they become ancap darwinists. Sexual communism, however, is actually absolutely mandatory and is like the first problem man had to solve to leave the jungle, otherwise we’d be killing eachother until the end of time, with the winner keeping a harem.
(((Governments))) and / or (((Judeo NPCs / Golems)))Governments = BDSM jewish pigger reptile hypocritical Jewish versionNah I don't need nor will support your "muh necessary evils" fuck off scumbag reptilian kikes
>>537027949That image is so disingenuous. Its the rich, the corporations, that are pushing immigration you stupid faggot.
