Why is the state of Wyoming so shit for self defense rights?
>>537028671>She
>>537028672FPBP
>>537028671Wyoming is one of those old school states where Leo WILL throw the book at you if you're an undesirable. Dakotas were the same last I was there.Depending on what actually went down I could see how a gang of morons yelling slurs and threatening you could justify needing a weapon to bail.
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>>537028671Because words aren't violence and brandishing is a crime.
>>537028676>words aren't violenceHow about pushing someone to the ground?If you're carrying and I come shove you over, are you keeping it in the holster?
>>537028677He better if you don't follow him to the ground he can't shoot you if you walk away there isn't any danger faggot.
>>537028671>she
>>537028671Amerimutts really let people like this own guns?
>>537028672>>537028673Transwomen ARE WOMEN you cisbigots. Go back to /pol/
>>537028680In Wyoming, yesIn California this person's inevitable psychiatric hospitalization would prevent them from getting the license
>>537028671>>537028677Nothing a tranny claims should be taken seriously You are not a woman, but you claim to be, everything out of your mouth is presumed to be false until proven otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt
>>537028678Your sentence makes no sense. How much lead is in the water where you live?
how many times are you gonna make this thread?retard brandished, if you're pulling out your gun it's not to de-escalate the situation, and mere words that don't even constitute fighting words don't justify violence (and fighting words alone I'm pretty sure don't meet the proportionality requirement for lethal force in any state)
>>537028671>she>rihanna>balding with grey hairdude will end up killing himself in 5 years anyway>>537028677>How about pushing someone to the ground?Getting into physical fist fights does not warrant you pulling out a gun. The law requires proper rules of escalation to be followed. This dude clearly did no such thing and is getting in hot water for it.>If you're carrying and I come shove you over, are you keeping it in the holster?Did you pull a knife on me? If not, than no and neither should other retards who think killing someone over a drunken brawl is "self defense">But they said mean things about me so I deserve to kill themKill yourself if you think verbal abuse warrants pulling a gun on someone
>>537028674>cross the street to confront 'hecklers'>get close enough to be shoved to the ground>draw gun>rack slide in threatening gesture (and not carrying with one in the chamber because faggot)>tell police you never even took the safety off because you didn't intend to fire
>you're never allowed to shoot an unarmed assailant because muh deescalation>- Retards who never heard of George Zimmerman
>>537028671Why are troons so disgusting?
>>537028690Satans lies are disgusting to the Moderate Man.
>>537028689I think the difference is that trayvon martin was physically on top of zimmerman bashing his head into the concrete
>>537028687I didn't say I knew the situation I just said a group of guys heckling a tranny and threatening it may be justifiable defensively.
>>537028692HE WAS EXPLAINING HIS POSITION!
>>537028693Heckling does not warrant pulling out a gun >I walked over there to start shit because they called me mean thingsIf the tranny escalated this by walking to the dudes because of tgem yelling at him than he's fucked
>>537028671why is it always the ugliest fuck who troon out? why can't it be a cute femboy every once in a while?
>>537028695Yeah I agree he can't say he felt threatened imo if he instigated it. My point is if some random dudes heckle a tranny and threaten him physically and cross the street to hassle him id see no problem defending a DGU or brandish in a courtroom where I'm on the jury.
>>537028693>>537028697No, there's no state in which verbal threats alone justify use of deadly force, there has to be an immediate danger to your own life.There's video evidence, so if the other tards involved in this story didn't approach the retard after shoving them, there was no legal justification for pulling out a gun. The retard stated that they didn't intend to shoot, and had the safety on the whole time, that's evidence that there wasn't a sense of urgency and immediate threat to their life. I hesitate to say "open and shut case" but unless there's more to it I don't think the defense will hold.
>>537028687>tell police you never even took the safety off because you didn't intend to firewhat a retard lmao
>>537028690Not all of them areReally it's a combination of factors. Already ugly man, transitioning late in life when his hairline is already kill, not putting in the bare minimum effort to actually pass (fucking look at that 5 o'clock shade)Above all, passing requires effort, at least early on. Estrogen can do a great deal, but if you are a lazy unkempt slob, it won't magically do away with that
I feel bad for the moron but they fucked up by drawing and not shooting. It's bad to escalate to deadly force without due cause but worse to do so and then not follow through.
In a Stand Your Ground state xe would have had less trouble if xe just shot the guy lmao
>>537028686>getting into physical fist fights does not warrant you pulling out a gunTell that to /k/'s second favorite spic, George Zimmerman. It also does, in states that have a stand your ground laws. >https://www.gunssavelife.com/2023/08/10/it-happened-to-me-good-guy-exonerated-after-righteous-shooting-in-viral-video-his-first-hand-account-video/
>>537028695>I walked over to remonstrate with them as is my right as an American under the first amendment>They assaulted me>I feared for my life, so I drew my weapon and made ready to defend myself>Fortunately they backed off off from their assault
>>537028702This. If you live in a stand your ground state, and need to pull your weapon, shoot the fucker. Otherwise, it's felony intimidation with a deadly weapon. >Yes, your Jewish DA will prosecute you for doing the logical thing of pulling your weapon to deescalate the situation >Yes, the law is that retarded
>>537028704>admitting felony intimidation to cops as a minority Surely nothing will come from this.
>>537028705>>537028702>>537028701It's more about how you frame it when you explain your actions. >>537028704 is exactly what you say, that you were ready to defend yourself and were on the verge of firing, but they started to run away. Then they can't get you on brandishing and if they try to, no jury will convict.Of course, it only really works once, if the police haul you in 3 times a week for pulling a gun on someone it's gonna look a lot different.
>>537028705>upon seeing the weapon, the attacker ceased acting in a threatening manner and retreated from the confrontationwould that not be a sufficient justification? "I feared for my life when I drew but I also didn't want to kill the guy when he visibly backed down"
>>537028708The problem is that if he really said this>tell police you never even took the safety off because you didn't intend to fireThen he is fucked.
>>537028710Yeah, that's why you don't say that.
>>537028700>Above all, passing requires effortIt requires extensive plastic surgery. Once a tranny hits their 30s they get ugly as sin real fucking quick
>>537028680xhes heccin cute and valid and part of /k/ulture xister!
>>537028700Anon… ALL troons are disgusting by their very nature. They are things that simply should not be. It doesn’t matter how hot the chick is, if it has a dick, IT AIN’T A CHICK!
>>537028713His wife is a real female and has nice tits.
>>537028680We’re working on it, OK! Just one more troon mass shooting, and we’ll be able to strip them of their gun privileges for good.
>>537028713No idea who the fuck is that, but i muessin that's just cosplay for the gun(?), not everything is a tranny
>>537028671It's sad Amerilards think the only outcome is having laws that let "people" like this own firearms and shutting down all the mental asylums to let these schizo autists roam free on the streets, or needing to go through 12 anal probes to only be allowed a shitty dubba bubba fudd shotgun like in the great shariastan.No wonder there's so many mass shootings.
>>537028686Fists are a lethal weapon, retard. You're not obligated to wait for them to pull out a weapon before ventilating someone who's attacking you
>>537028717nah the person on the left is an actual /k/ oldfag who trooned out on hrt
>>537028671Look up which states have "duty to retreat" laws. Those are the opposite of "stand your ground" laws and usually make "castle doctrine" harder. Whichever states show up (like Wisconsin) are states to avoid.
>>537028700pic unrelated you fucking fairy
>>537028720well, shame
>>537028720>>537028717sorry I meant right*
>>537028704Did they throw the first punch though? If the tranny was the one to escalate the situation by walking over to the group, than I don't doubt that he escalated it even further by being the first to get physical in some manner. You don't get to pull a gun on people because you lost a fight that YOU started>>537028719>Fists are a lethal weapon, retard.Intent matters more here. They clearly backed off of him after he was pushed to the ground. If they were intending to kill the guy than they wouldn't have let off of him the moment he fell onto the ground
>>537028721I've learned through police bodycam footage that northern states like wisconsin and minnesota are ghetto as fuck. I thought it was just white people and cheese up there for the longest time.
>>537028725No, I agree that this retard fucked up because they pulled a gun without an intent to use it after escalating a situation instead of just ignoring them like a normal person, and then admitted it to the cops instead of shutting the fuck up after saying that he was afraid for his life, but retard machismo "how dare you pull a gun when I was using my fist" is stupid legal advice and will get you some structurally superfluous holes very quickly.
>>537028702Congrats for not knowing what stand your ground means.I thought this was made clear by the ZimZam trial, but I guess not.
>>537028687>>tell police you never even took the safety off because you didn't intend to fire>how to kill your defense before even stepping into a court room
>>537028715Shes never posted her tits
>>537028729It could be worse.You could be that kid in Texas that asked a cop if he could claim self-defense.
>>537028700god I bet her asshole tastes like nutmeg
>>537028730trips, either show us how to see her tits or you're demoted to not white
>>537028727>but retard machismo "how dare you pull a gun when I was using my fist"I don't think you're understanding what I'm trying to say. Again, this all depends on whether or not the group was backing away/dispersing on their own accord. If the situation had already begun to naturally deescalate because the group had begun to back away and disperse after he fell/was pushed to the ground than him pulling a gun out (no matter whether or not he intended to fire it or not) means that he's fucked and can't legally cry self defense.
>>537028734Anon, I'm agreeing with you while calling the person I originally responded to a retard for saying that fists aren't enough to escalate to a gun and that you have to wait for them to pull a knife. Please learn how replies work
>>537028714be honest, anon
>>537028722which means...?the person in the picture is a tranny. Granted, like a top 1% one, but still>>537028712It really dependsIf you've got neanderthal brow and jawline like a minecraft character, sure, you'll need to get work done to not look ridiculousIf you have naturally gentler features, it might not be necessary at allAs for the word "extensive", I think it's a pretty standard cosmetic surgery. Overnight stay, then about a month before you stop looking like you went the distance with prime TysonUnless you're talking about bottom surgery, that's a whole different can of worms
>>537028736Norton was the original tranny chaser
Faggots are such delusional subhumans. Disgusting.
>>537028709No, because you need to justify that you reasonably believed your life was in immediate danger to legally pull a gun on a guy, by outright telling police you didn't take the safety off because you "didn't want to hurt him" you've effectively confessed that you didn't actually believe your life was in danger because if you did then your attackers well being is the last thing on your mind, and any even half competent prosecution will have an absolutely field day with that.
>>537028716Now go work on it and get their rights off of there!
>>537028676>brandishing is a crime.Not in Texas it isn't. If OP is incapable of distinguishing a girl from a man in a dress, maybe he is also unable to distinguish Wyoming from Texas. Or maybe he just thought Wyoming cops were supposed to know that his intersectional points were a get-out-of-jail-free card.
>>537028735>the person I originally responded to a retard for saying that fists aren't enough to escalate to a gun and that you have to wait for them to pull a knifeThat was me. I never mentioned needing to see knives to justify pulling out a gun and thats on you for assuming that. Again, I said that the intent of the group he was confronting matters the most here. If the group that he had gotten into a fight with was escalating the situation even after he had fallen to the ground and was beating him bloody to the point where he was fearing for his life than that's a completely different story than what we are assuming is a "They backed off of me and started walking away. So I pulled a gun on them while they were turning their backs to me" situation. Reread what I said about my response to your "Fists are a lethal weapon". The Intent and rules of escalation is what makes or breaks the tranny's defense. Just because you lost a fist fight doesn't warrant you being able to pull out a gun and point it at people as they are walking away from you.
>>537028743>Did you pull a knife on me? If not, than no and neither should other retards who think killing someone over a drunken brawl is "self defense">I never mentioned needing to see knives to justify pulling out a gun
>>537028738>Alexander the Greatftfy king
>>537028743>>537028725>>537028687The reporting is that he was shouted at, that he was approached by the group of men, that he was shoved and injured and that he pulled his gun. There's no reporting about him crossing the street to confront them or about him initiating physical violence.Where are you getting this from?
Being shoved doesn't necessarily justify lethal force:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Markeis_McGlocktonObviously there's a difference in this case that no one was shot, but even brandishing will get you fucked legally.
>>537028747>One guy dies and another goes to jail for 20 years over a parking spotThe trivial shit people will choose to die over is amazing
>>537028748https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKZbyC1ccMY
>>537028747>child of a cop cannot deescalate Many such cases! I wonder how many times his mom "took a nasty fall while getting out of the shower."
>>537028671Doesn't mental illness preclude one from legally owning a firearm?
>>537028700Shut the fuck up, you disgusting queer.
>>537028731Thank God that nog got convicted.
>>537028746literally OP's article>https://laramiereporter.substack.com/p/a-laramie-bartender-faces-felony>Kelver approached the men, who also began crossing the street. Both parties met in the crosswalk.also, as an aside, they first claimed to have pulled a knife rather than a gun before recanting the statement. prosecutor has a *fuckton* to work with in this case.
>>537028726All the states this map has labelled green will try to ruin your life if you defend yourself unless the armed criminal attacks you in your bedroom.
>>537028736Um, it’s fucking disgusting? What do you want me to say? There’s no way in hell I could ever consider that “thing” a woman, let alone a pretty one.
>>537028755>Nebraska
>>537028757Yeah… Nebraska’s pretty fucking gay.
>>537028700>>537028736>These are supposed to be "gotcha's"My man, if you consider these even remotely attractive your standards are abysmally low.
>being gay>being trans>as a bartender>in fucking laramie, wy of all placesThis guy was literally asking for it
>>537028718True.
>>537028671wyoming has a lot of troons and faggots who moved there from denver because its cheaper. laramie and cheyanne are full of them. starting to show up in casper now too
>>537028756we all know your mother is uglier
>>537028713What ever happened to this faggot? I remember him posting and being almost as obnoxious as armatard.
>>537028764Migrated to discord so he can run a child grooming rink. Not even joking.
>>537028753Shame his retarded family is going to appeal and use that to fund another round of gimmedats for themselves.
>>537028761>White males have a predisposition that makes them shoot up schools We've known this since before Columbine?
>>537028755This is a bit outdated by like ten years. Missouri and Arkansas are both Stand your Ground and a Castle Doctrine states right off the top of my head. Nebraska has duty to retreat in public but Castle Doctrine meaning you can presume harmful intent for burglary.
>>537028733I litteraly said she never posted her tits, if she has then I am not aware of the mugi-tits.
>>537028761Really should be a disqualifying condition like schizophrenia.
>>537028765Every. Fucking. Time.
>>537028767>schizoid homos have a predisposition that makes them shoot up schoolsFTFY
>>537028767At least 2 of those are biological women and 3 others are definitely not White.
>>537028671This epidemic is due to a sharp rise in cases of clinical autism amongst an entire generation of children and teens and agp developing from porn addictions.The sooner we find effective medical treatments, how to prevent or even a cure for autism is the sooner we'll stop this craziness.
>>537028774I've been jerking off 6 times a day to anime since I was 16 and I'm still comfortable with my masculinity.Think it might just be more to do with creeps grooming kids than it is anime existing and having massive tits.
>>537028747>McGlockTon>got shot by a glock
>>537028736that's a dude in a wig that looks vaguely like M00t in his mid-20s
>>537028739Most male troons are agp straight guys tho.That's why they're all "lesbians"
>>537028671Her 5 o'clock shadow reminds me that I need to shave before my prostate exam on Monday. I bet hers is soon too.
>>537028680What's wrong with her?
>>53702877880% of MtF trannies do not have and are not considering bottom surgery. It's a fetish and I will not be participating in their autogynophilic fantasy.
>>537028768>Missouri and Arkansas are Castle Doctrine>Nebraska has duty to retreat in public but Castle DoctrineThe map is not outdated. All 50 states have castle doctrine in one way or another (some as a law, others as case precedent), but each state's castle doctrine is different. Some states allow you to defend your home, workplace, and vehicle; other states only allow the home. Some states allow you to defend your property line, while others only allow the inside of your home to be protected. Castle Doctrine just has a ton of nuance. In the cases of states that have both, the map shows which one is stronger; for example, in Ohio, the castle doctrine is more likely to clear you legally, while in Colorado, castle doctrine exists but is kind of weak, and stand your ground is more likely to help you out.
>>537028700No. Something that unnatural is always creepy and gross. Have you ever spent time around a tranny or pooner? I dated a girl who had sister who pooned out. She was dating a tranny. We had breakfast with them one morning and everything about them is just off.God and I spent a bunch of time with her family when her dad died and the sister would just walk around the house shirtless, showing off the scars. Her poor family fucking hated it but had to put up with because dead dad. She was such a bad person too. She started asking for a cut of the life insurance. There were 2 younger sisters. One in college and one in still in fucking high school. There were young kids to take care of and she's asking for money from her mom who has to take care of this family on her own.
>>537028781Believe it or not that's what's going on with most of the actual female ones too.Except it's that they're "gay" and they demand actual gay guys fuck their pussy.A lot of them are fujoshi who genuinely think they can troon their way into being a yaoi twink
>>537028671When will this mass psychosis of "transgenderism" pass?These people have severe mental illnesses, many have several at once and are often comorbid with each other. Tranny activists are actively harming these sick people by affirming their delusions. We don't affirm the delusions of a schizophrenic person. We don't affirm the body dysmorphia of an anorexic person. We used to tell people to love their bodies no matter the shape of them and tranny activists are doing the opposite. Additionally if gender isn't real but a societal construct, how would affirming their delusions of being in the wrong gendered body help in the first place? These people are freaks and often are dangerous. They're almost always sexual deviants and are violent. They are mentally ill pressure cookers that frequently explode under the slightest stress. I'm just so fucking tired of being forced to play along like these people aren't violently mentally ill and actually normal, chud. I'm exhausted of playing this game.
this thread is very grassroots
>>537028786Fuck you nigger
>>537028787fpbp
>>537028677You can't meet a shove with a stab.
>>537028781>>537028784>trannies trying to say they aren’t retarded faggots nowWild times
>>537028677obviously mentally ill and detached from reality, originally stated that they pulled a knife. how could you take that persons word for a push when every stumble is the fault of the patriarchy in their befuddled mind?
https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65201361https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/65232803Why does this board get spammed by repetitive threads so often? I thought we only had one mentally ill resident schizo (Robert) but it now appears that there's another one.
>>537028700>literally just a dude with his hair didCome on bro.>Not all of them are Really it's a combination of factorsI stopped reading here
>>537028671>kelverjewish
>>537028671Its not you faggot kike shill fed cocksucker. Come to the state and ill show you. Ill kill you right as you come near the property line in a private subdivision and get off scott free. The fucken faggot fucked around in laramie where we crucified and murdered a meth headed homo who owed thousands to meth dealers, little mathew shepard. They dont tolerate faggots in even laramie which has the university and liberal cunts everywhere. I know youre faggot cunt shill paid to post, but get your shit right you fucken faggot cunt, we have legal open carry anywhere in public.
>>537028767While true I'm bothered that nobody discusses the phenomenon of black males shooting up highschool graduation ceremonies.
poor thing, gender don't matter when you that ugly
/k/ is literally full of faggot trannies that think Ukraine is winning, lmao
I hate that mods take all the dumb ass rage bait threads and just dump them in /pol/ rather than delete them.
>>537028677going to need video of this push before it can be believed
>>537029241You will do nothing Timmy. Jews will trannify and sodomize your kids and all you're going to do is complain on the Internet.
>>537029714I wish the flags transferred. If they did, since it came from /k/, it would be just a huge amount of jeets.
>>537028671Were it a nigger it would be dismissed.
>>537028671Subhuman troons are not humans, because those abominations are not human, they are not to be afforded any rights that would normally go to a human. Instead they should be publicly executed in the most brutal methodology available.
>>537028677The shit stan pederast troon deserves to be executed, for openly violating firearm ordinances ina threatening manner, in addition to being a pederast troon. the less of these degenerate kid diddling shitbags that exist, the purer society becomes
>>537028780>>HerI pray that you are forced to watch your loved ones lives being violently taken before yours is brutally ended, pedophile.
>>537028671Israeli definitions of "self-defense" don't apply in America. You can't walk up to somebody to talk shit in their face with a gun and then claim justification for murder when they push you away with force. >>537028674The law is the law. Stand your ground doesn't mean step up and show aggression to somebody, then try to claim that they did the same to you by shouting "Freak! Faggot!" from across the street.
>>537028785It passes, when these abominations are their enablers are publicly executed. Next question.
>>537030322Did I ask for your fucking opinion? I don't believe I did, kike. These abominations, along with their enablers, deserve to be violently eradicated in the public sphere. You're not even American, so literally nothing you, or your kind says is relevant in any situation, shitbag.
>>537028671>get made fun of (justifiably)>pull a gunWhat most likely happened is the smirking brainwashed tranny started shit and provoked people because the disgusting faggot wanted to threaten people (communist retard)
>>537028671Great, now he's going to use his gun on himself.
>>537028671Fuck, I knew it was a man before I scrolled down and saw the "transgender" part. Why troons so fucking violent? You would think taking estrogen would turn these men into weak docile faggots
>>537031737Better than shooting up a school of kids or a church
>>537028671lmao, I needed a good laugh. Thanks OP
>>537028671Let me guess, "she" got right up in his face and started screaming at the top of her lungs at the guy, probably something about having a gun and how "she" would kill him, and that was when the guy shoved this retard back just to distance himself.
>>537028671I hope she gets justice. She’s early in her transition but she has the base to become a fine trans gf or great hookup >>537028672Piece of shit
>>537028671Felons cannot own guns or vote.Men cannot be women, women cannot be men.It's good to see nature healing itself.I pray to Jesus for this justice for stopping the tranny atheists freaks. He can read a Bible in jail and know that God loves him.
>>537028671>self defenseThey should rope that thing in self defense.
>>537028690autism which gives them a shocking lack of self-awareness
>>537028761Homos really all need to be locked up. They are all mentally ill and have parasites.
These trash golems are dispersed across rural America and they all infest the local bar scene.Too much of an annoying broke faggot to run away to Colorado, even though its a 40 minute drive away.Wyoming's proximity to CO concerns me, the leftytrash cancer consistently spreads.The white leftgroids always run away from the tidal wave of spics and niggers they open the gates for.Here's one that's too poor to run away from all of the spics CO let in...
