>>537032167cubicle is betterremote is best
Malebrained vs fembrained
>which insect honeycomb is better
>>537032167Neither, dedicated offices was standard in the 1990s and early 2000s and everything after that has been a disastrous step downSkilled workers need private, quiet spaces to accomplish complex work. Neither cubicles nor open plan offers that
>>537032167give me a cubicle over an open-plan zog warehouse.
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>>537032167Remote
>>537032167office>cubicle>prison dormitory
>>537032167Solitary confinement VS Panopticon. corner cubicle is comfy. separate office with lockable door, even better.
a mix of all 4open plan for the women daycarecubicles for the midwits that need to be corralled aroundoffice for the skilled employees that do the hard workremote work for everyone few days a week to wear off the fatigue
>>537032167I had to work at an open plan once and it really fucking sucks, like holy shit how did anybody think that would be a good idea? I don't care if they save money on space by doing it, it destroys productivity.also this >>537032304
>>537032167it'd be a lot harder to pretend you're working in the open plan
>>537032167Cubicles are expensive AF, I remember one time this property we were revamping said to throw everything away so we sold the cubicles got 9 grand quick AF from the local cubicle dealer, then a month later they were asking about them and we told them they were hauled to the dump. There's a good chance they bought back their own cubicles.
>>537032716>thinking it's about productivity and not controlOpen just means your bosses can watch you more easily and you can't organize with the other drones for better pay, hours or working conditions.
>>537032304>>537032350>>537032716Cubicles with doors are the happy medium.
>>537032716It's not about "productivity", it's about coveillance:>side-to-side monitoring among peers, rather than top-down hierarchical observationIt effectively gang-presses every employee into being a watchman for every other employee. You then provide incentives to employees for ratting each other out over "slacking off" or "being unproductive" and other such kikery which effectively means "not dedicating every single moment to corporate activity". Essentially the gulag system, except it's your company and not your government doing itBecause communism and capitalism are the two sides of the same clipped coin
for me it's the panopticon. you get your private office but I'm watching you. no slacking off, no fucking around on your phone, no affairs with office sluts
Office works is gay and stupid to begin with; neither. Put me in a workshop or the field.
>>537032777You can easily check output from workers and see whether they're fucking around or doing useful work. Managers are so incompetent nowadays, they refuse to do this and have to rely on watching over shoulders in open plan offices. How did the tech industry survive for decades before open offices existed? Oh right, managers had to do their jobs.
>>537034449>easily check outputNah, mostly just bullshit statistics all the way done, especially in jobs where being efficient means anticipating problems before they escalate - which doesn't compute with some people. Will make you look lazy in their eyes.
>>537032167>Cubicles allow for autistic to be in their safe space and avoid normies and just work their job>Open plan fucks over the autistic people and then you get reported to HR and fired for not being a team player
>>537032605>a mix of all 4>open plan for the women daycare>cubicles for the midwits that need to be corralled around>office for the skilled employees that do the hard work>remote work for everyone few days a week to wear off the fatiguethiswe had cubes interspersed with large size cubes suitable for confabs of 4 to 8 people
>>537034525I've worked in big tech for years and it's very easy to tell for software devs if they're fucking around or not. Just look at their tickets solved, commits pushed, meetings they're attending. Yes, it can all be gamed, but that's also pretty easy to see through gaming attempts if you have half a brain. Most devs are simply not that slick. Managers are literally paid to do this, but instead insist on falling back on lazy bullshit like open offices. Do your fucking job.
>>537034794>tickets solvedIf they were doing their job properly there wouldn't be as many tickets in the first place. It's like you're being rewarded for writing unmantainable spaghetti code because it generates tickets for statistics. >meetingsMeetings about meetings to determine more meetings and so on and so on. Just encourages people to act like politicians and talk a lot without saying much at all. That seems like another meaningless metric justifying some dude's existence.
Cubicle is a prison cell with a chance of moments of privacy and personality Open office is the panopticon and random seating
>>537032716Open plans are for people that don't do any work and their job consists of nothing but socializing. Aka the worthless people.
>>537032304100%
>>537032203trve, nobody would work at 100% in OpenSpace also humans need some kind of private den
Cubical.Fuck color vomir shit, I don't need child like distractions and people around.If I have to work in an office, give me a corner and fuck off.
>>537032167Gas chambers are a better option than both.
>>537035127>That seems like another meaningless metric justifying some dude's existenceIt's daycare for worthless domesticated consumers. Better to cull them off and have done with it.
Cubicle, but all your female coworkers are dinosaurs
does student debt worth working in the open field where you can't safely fart without alerting everyone around? seem like a major scam
As a game developer, the best setup I ever had was when all us programmers had small offices with 2-3 people in each. Most productive I've ever been. All the artists, creatives, women, etc, had open space areas to sit in.It would be amazing to have my own office, but I understand it's not really realistic in this day and age. At my current workplace (200'ish people at this location) the only person with his own office is the CEO, everyone else sit in open space areas.
>>537032167Cubicle, I don't want faggots walking up on me all the time.
>>537036001I assume there's a thin line between being oversocialized and being anti-social. If you got artists who are oversocialized they keep talking without saying nothing at all and nobody is trying anthing cool (but they act like it's aaaamzing even if it's shit). But if you got a lot of toxic anti-socials every attempt of trying something is going to shut down just cause.
>>537032304This. I had my own office for a while, and it was amazing. Then the company decided it was too extravagant and moved us ALL into a single, large room with cubicles despite making record profits. I didn't even get to keep my dry-erase board that they promised I would have. Productivity went down after that. The do-nothings were always chatting, and we had less than half as much desk space as before. I quit a bit after that. It was clear they intended to drive out Whites for poos.
>>537036291dude in our firn got eyes problems after constantly watching people zip around him
>>537032167open floorplan is extremely gay and retarded. do it if you want to make your employees suicidal.
>>537032167>humiliation ritual 1.0>humiliation ritual 2.0
God damn I love getting up at 6 in the morning and working outside in the beautiful rural countryside all day.Never ever ever working in an office again.YOU DONT HAVE TO LIVE LIKE THIS BROTHERS!
>>537032167neither.people wake up early and stay in traffic only to get to the office and still have an online stand up call with the team they are on the same floor with. its idiotic. good thing I never had to work in an office. remote is superior or at least provide dedicated offices where I can close the door and not be bothered by some office whores chatting about nothing or others being in endless calls.
>>537032167old vs new zoo enclosures.
>>537032167Rooms.
