pretty much any trivial task these days requires interacting with some imaginary human-made systemi'd estimate most of humanity is ~95% trapped in imaginary systems and only ~5% in actual realityan example, building a house, most places in our current world:0. plan1. first get a job to earn imaginary money because nothing is free2. attain a piece of "your" land but it's not really yours until the state says so3. beg for zoning approval, building permits, environmental impact studies and utility hookups4. navigate banks, loans, insurance, inspections and endless imaginary fees/taxes5. hire licensed contractors, pay for code compliance, union rules and digital paperwork6. wait months or years while bureaucrats decide if you can even start7. finally build, but under constant oversight and threat of fines or shutdownsame example from a world without them, assuming people in general are nice and can organize even better without them:0. plan1. find a nice piece of land2. hit up a few people willing to help u build3. go get the building materials from a warehouse4. build the housesame pattern repeats for starting a business, buying food, traveling, raising kids, every damn thing... money, laws, credentials, digital ids, compliance: all make-believe constructs that own youdoes this shit actually benefit us or does it just add endless friction and control?are people really that retarded they need the nanny state to wipe their ass for every decision?
>>537044634are you from india that you cant understand why laws and rules are needed?
>>537044634You have to imagine or else you only have Animal Planet.
>>537044722OP is right and you should be put to death for being such a faggot. see how that works? no laws needed, problems instead self-correct or are corrected by the larger community collectively and decisively.
>>537044722nein>>537044763indeed but why require imagining a bunch of nonsense needing to jump through endless hoops for any trivial taskthe inefficiencies are absurd>>537044861speak for yourself
>>537044634Almost all of human activity is interaction with 'imaginary' systems. The only things which objectively exist are space/ time, matter / energy and the fundamental forces (gravity, nuclear attracting force etc.); everything else is just us catagorising things inside our own heads so we can make sense of the world.
>>537044861misread your message excuse me tired brb sleepb back in 10 h approx
You're right, the extent of State-enforced constructs and regulations into private life is astounding. Even compared to 50 years ago, we are controlled and hampered to an obscene degree.
>>537045153Perhaps I should elaborate; my point is that the real distinction is not between 'imaginary' and 'real' systems, but between useful and not useful ones.
read the The Unique and its Property.
>>537045094>the inefficiencies are absurdyes, that's why we have improve or collapse which means opportunity for the smart
>>537044634>saar please to you let ve hindus from india explain the dercedures of your vhite society if you vill
>>537044634>does this shit actually benefit us or does it just add endless friction and control? it benefits people who have self control and don't squeeze out kids without the means to provide for them.
>>537044634>1. find a nice piece of land>2. hit up a few people willing to help u build>3. go get the building materials from a warehouse>4. build the houseWhat's stopping you from doing this right now? Apart from being unemployed, broke, and friend-less I mean.
>>537045153prove that time exists without referring to imaginary systems
>>537044634>these daysdid you know that in ancient society it was a capital offense to build a shitty house? if the house collapsed the builder was executed.
>>537045283.just bee yourselve
>>537045679Stop oppressing Jeet-anon with your building codes, you fucking bigot.
>>537044634had the same thoughtI want to get hired for a university job and I had to check and tick about 50 items and documents and requirements, I was going insane>>537044722past a certain point the system collapses under it's own weight
>>537044634Nice AI you got there, mister philosopher
>>537044722Even your barbaric countries worked just fine without all that crapSocieties built with care can self-regulate. Nobody, NOBODY needs a satanic jewish control system designed to vaccum all profits to the secret oligarchs. Look at this small town example:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy>He was struck by bullets from at least two different firearms, in front of a crowd of people estimated as numbering between 30 and 46.[3] Despite the many witnesses, nobody came forward to say who shot him. As of 2026, no one has been charged in connection with McElroy's death.[3]
>>537044634Literally all we need is the right to secede and all of this clown world shit ends instantly.Good thread.
>>537045283>Man amazed to discover that things invented by humans are, in fact, invented by humans!>More at 11.
>>537044722>WE DONT HATE BUREAUCRACY IN GERMANY
>>537046153Even the most primitive societies have some sort of rules, even if they're not formal 'laws' as we understand them.
>>537045674Everything doesn't happen all at once.
>>537044634Anarchy is unsustainable with large populations.
>>537044634>muh real world >posts AIslopThe ironings...
>>537045224The fact that you can't even build a house on your property without state permission and increased property taxes is already proof things have gone way too far, this shit must end or we won't even be human beings anymore soon. Even ants can establish a new ant mound without begging the ant leader.
>>537045674Kek, gottem.>>537046483That definition includes time again, that's circular.
>>537044634Yes, institutions exist to moderate and restrict human behavior in attempts to limit transaction costs and bad behavior. These are not imaginary, but simply human constructs made to govern interaction and maintain standards. If there is a curvy winding road in your town where people regularly die in crashes due to high speeds, then the local government will assuredly implement a speed limit. This „imaginary“ speed upper bound is there to prevent unnecessary death because too many people drive faster than is prudent. Now, imagine that there are these roads everywhere in a country and they are particularly dangerous for commercial drivers unless they have certain learned driving skills; a danger to themselves and others. The creation of curvy winding road commercial drivers certification will likely be implemented. So, in this scenario:>I want to become a commercial driver>Get commercial license>Oh no, I also need this expensive extra training for a windy road certification to drive in the majority of places in this country>Evil imaginary rules!!!!
>>537046961imagine my surprise at a german advocating for following the rulesyou have to imagine it because it doesnt exist
>>537044722>tf>tpLmaoThe nation of mind broken cucks
>>537047121Absolutely nobody is surprised.My neighbour in my coastal apartment is German. She enforces rules for the entire apartment block that even the municipality forgot about.
>>537046961This is why everybody laughs at you.And why your business moves to less retarded countries to remain competitive.
>>537044634bro just comprehended abstraction for the first time in his life
>>537047467>half of your resources get sucked away just for the sake of abstractionThe current day IT illustrates perfectly what happens when you go to far with your abstraction stuff
>>537047467>abstraction=bureaucracyAbstraction is supposed to make things easier not fucking impossible, you technocrats are so midwitted it's unreal.It's literally just infinite layers of useless parasitism sucking the blood of the productive class.
>>537047280Jesus, Germans are the jannies of Europe.
>>537045763Built to code is the same bullshit as milspec. It's the bare minimum they can overcharge you for. It's why housing is absolute shit. It's already moving from chipboard/OSB to foam and MDF. Jeets will build a shanty out of their own shit for sure, but what White would? Over regulation, and the jews behind it, have killed just about every bit of competition and creativity in the West.
>>537047355Everything of value in your country is there thanks to Germans.>>537047121The next time a foreigner jumps the queue, remember that he’s breaking a social institutional rule. Therefore, by your reasoning, he’s simply casting off silly imaginary rules and you’re being a fool.
>>537045937Congratulations. You found the entry point.
>>537046496Hold mein Bier...
>>537045674Time is a measurement of motion.
>>537044634Convenient that this stocked warehouse simply exists in your real world example.
>>537049176>Everything of value in your country is there thanks to Germans.Berliner doener kebab is hardly a valuable contribution.
>lol
>>537051321You know you can just chop down a few trees and build a loghouse?
>>537045094>>537044861>>537044634The laws were developed AS the fucking self-correction. You people are morons. 'Hurr why cant we just build things' Because you stupid fuck, we did this. And after the 10,000th time that people went to visit someone, or conduct business in a building, only for it to collapse and kill everyone who had no idea the builders were fucking retards, we decided maybe some laws are needed. You know who didn't have building laws? The dumb yard apes of Haiti, who then all got turned into jelly-paste at the first real earthquake. So congrats, you have all the critical-thinking skill of a haiti nigger.
>>537046334>all we need is the right to secedelooks like improvements have been made at the chuckle factory. imagine being such a cockless faggot to need permission to secede from tyranny.>please sir, can I please walk away from getting raped in every hole?>please sir, can we have a revolution to depose you?you don't get a right or a permission to secede to fucking dimwit, you just do it. how fucking stupid would a control system be to grant the "right" for individuals to secede?>>537044634peel you eyeballs back, anon. you have some reading to do.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spheres_trilogyhttps://metapsychosis.com/globes-by-peter-sloterdijk-welcome-overview/a warm up vidrelhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx379aETiJA
>>537052365>We did this>Not the jews trying to make support columns out of corncobs for public buildings. All building code stems from fire or support issues in public/commercial structures that try to cut every corner. Residential construction has only gotten worse with the amount of builder nons and monopoly materials. >Whites build like Haitian niggers. Sure.
>>537049176you're so right! i will remember to put my towel down to make sure the foreigner understands that my place in the queue is secured>>537051231this nigga gets it (possibly)
>>537044722>>537044634Shitty AI gen image but good and based idea
>>537052365You're missing the point. We just had a thread yesterday about how starting a simple business is nearly impossible. This place is such a contrarian cesspit
