They held a referendum for limiting the Swiss population number to 10 Million Yes or No.55% voted for No. Country population voted for Yes, but city folks voted No.https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20ygjem17zoVoters in Switzerland have rejected a proposal to limit the country's population to 10 million, early projections suggest.Not all votes have been counted, but the current trend suggests 55% of participants voted against, to 45% for.The proposal came from the right-wing Swiss People's Party, which has long campaigned on an anti-immigration platform.The divisive vote risked putting the country's free movement agreement with the European Union in jeopardy.Switzerland's population has grown rapidly since 2002, when it stood at 7.3 million. Now it is 9.1 million, 27% of whom are not Swiss citizens.However, the People Party's argument that capping the population would reduce pressure on transport, housing and the environment seem not to have persuaded enough voters.Although the Swiss People's Party insisted the population cap was designed to protect Switzerland's public services and its environment, it has a long history of campaigning on an anti immigrant platform, frequently blaming asylum seekers and minorities for societal problems.Some voters were seemingly worried at the prospect of losing much-needed workers in tourism, hospitals, and care homes.
>>537049939Far right grifters and nazis BTFO yed again.
>>537049939This disaster is exclusively due to the french-speaking multicultural hordes voting against.Switzerland has fallen, all due to shitholes like Geneva, Lausanne, etc.
>>537049939>Just vooooote.The Swiss still have it too good it seems.
>"I'll just use mi vöteli to keep the negerli out.">*kike shit happenes*>"GOPFERDAMMI! Now I have to get up and cleanse them manually!"
>>537050252even worse, it was right wingers who came up with this referendum.
>>537050077Get fucked nazi pos.
>>537050348You know what website you're on, retard?Go back to plebbit, bunkerchan or whatever.
>>537050077you guys need to join germany and romandy francebolsano should be nuked
>>537050077It's never too late to do a Reconquista.
>>537049939>early projections suggest.VPN jew found.
>>537050781It seems that things must get way worse before getting better.The low IQ urbanites need more blood flowing in the streets before they learn how to vote in a non-treasonous way.
>>537049939How common do you think voter fraud is in Europa?
>>537050841It's confirmed sadly, initiative rejected, 53.6% of voters (often not European) against, 12 cantons against, 10 for.
>>537050045Fuck you, Russnigger
>>537049939>Switzerland votes for more migrantsYou must be happy. Most of those immigrants are Germans.
>>537051247Are there still Germans in Germany?Isn't anyone below 40 some sort of brown mutt?
>>537050077Man Switzerland was probably the single most beautiful country I ever visited.I was in Davos for about 4 days on some Comicbook/anime convention(I was working as an exhibitor on conventions all around EU, selling some bootleg tshirts and other cheap shit with 10-50x markup) and Jesus fucking Christ it was stunning.Too bad everything is so retardedly expensive, I could get 4packs of smokes in Poland for the price of 1 swiss pack, cheapest and shittiest frozen pizza costs as much as medium Dominoes here, I could get like 10 loafes of bread in Poland for price of one in Switzerland etc.Hey Swiss anon when I talked with locals they told me groceries even for them are so expensive that it's much cheaper to just get into a car and drive to German border, do shopping in Aldi or Selgros and come back. Apparently this is so common the swiss government had to put limitations on amount of different items like food you can bring back per person so swiss pack as much people in the car as they can so they can bring back more groceries.
>>537050991Grim. On the other hand, should you resolve the situation the hard way, the problem will be gone for good. Vooting and legal tapdancing does not end up will in jewed societies, because laws require good faith of those practicing them. Jews obvioulsy have none.
>>537050348Why do you hate the white race? Why do you want to see whites be reduced to nothing?
>>537051314>Man Switzerland was probably the single most beautiful country I ever visited.It's beautiful because it's been ruled by high IQ right-wing nationalists for the past 80 years.Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
>>537051419Nah I meant like natural views, all those mountains, valleys, cliffs, perfectly clear blue streams, rivers and lakes etc.I'm not much into politics or cities, I like nature and your country mogs pretty much all Europe imo.
>>537051581Nature can be conserved only if high IQ people are in charge. If our entire nation were a turbocapitalist or marxist shithole there would be concrete aberrations even in the most pristine valleys.
>>537049939>The proposal came from the right-wing Swiss People's Party, which has long campaigned on an anti-immigration platform.You would expect their anti-immigration platform to be less Niggers and Muslims, its not, its less Germans and Shitalians.
>>537051581If that country was flooded with Indians they would ruin its natural beauty via pollution. Low IQ 3rd worlders have no appreciation for nature.
>>537051778Exactly. Culture and demographics (including average IQ) are destiny.Nature is safe only under a minority of the ethnocultural palette we see around the world.
>>537050684You don't have to be a nazi to use /pol/. >>537051356I dunno, seeing whitoids getting hurt just makes my happy hormones going.
>>537051875>You don't have to be a nazi to use /pol/.No but if you're not you will be heavily insulted and told to fuck off, due to your retarded untermensch beliefs almost nobody agrees with here.>seeing whitoids Does Slovenia give good welfare, invader?
>>537051778True, imo only intelligent people have an ability to appreciate nature and it's complex beauty. Also 95% of European cities look pretty much identical, I've been abroad probably over 20-30 times when I was working on conventions and they got boring extremely quickly.
>>537051875>seeing whitoids getting hurt just makes my happy hormones goingWell I'm sorry to say this but you are a psychopath if this the case.
>>537051875Kek someone's jealous of Timmy's snow white complexion.
he's just trying to provoke
I know, he's genuinely bad at it xD
>>537049939silver lining: at least we now know that almost half of the population is getting red-pilled enough to accept such an initiative.10 years ago, this would've been unthinkable.
>>537049939I'd love to visit Switzerland one day.How much would a 2 week vacation cost on average? I won't be staying at five star hotels, and I'll be cooking almost all of my meals. I just wanna experience webm rel lol
>>537052422Is there a chance that there will be more right wingers that migrant to this country than non-whites? Isn't Switzerland expensive, how can poor migrants sustain themselves there? Wouldn't I, an educated white man with a tech job, have better odds moving here over some low IQ migrant?
>>537050077>>537050991a picture perfect example of democracy getting killed by leftists. once you replace the people, democracy is dead because they can no longer achieve majorities to defend their interests.of course sandniggers and albanians aren't going to vote for a limitation to shitskin migration.>>537051301the majority of younger generations are brown, yes.i sure hope that the boomers, who will be in the majority in the mid-2030s, will be physically capable of fighting of sandnigger groups. otherwise expect hilarious amounts of FAFO.
>>537052697>i sure hope that the boomers, who will be in the majority in the mid-2030seh, worded that badly.by 2027 half of the german population will be older than 65. grannies better improve their purse-swinging game if they want to fend off a moohammed feeling rapey.
>>537052830>20272037*fuck, i need more coffee.
>>537050077You let the niggers vote? No wonder
>>537052157>enjoy seeing non-whitoid people get hurt>"BASED!">enjoy seeing whitoids getting hurt"y-y-your're a psychopath!!1"Yea, just fuck off chudcel.
>>537052657>how can poor migrants sustain themselves there?same way they sustain themselves in any other country: other people's money.>wouldn't I have better odds moving here over some low IQ migrantthe low IQ migrant just hops the border.
>>537053042When did I say I enjoy seeing anyone get hurt? You're the sadist that gets off on other people suffering. You literally said "seeing whitoids getting hurt just makes my happy hormones going" -- that's unhinged dude, sad that you can't see how crazy you are.
>>537049939>Country population voted for Yes, but city folks voted No.that's how it is in the US, then the city folks complain that their cities are too full and demand that the suburbs change zoning laws to take more immigrants.
>>537049939Jesus... We're all doomed
>>537049939Capping is a cuck option for those too afraid to name the brown hordes that works against white people who want children.
>>537053279thing is that the browns live in the cities. sandniggers will live in switzerland for a decade and have never even seen landscapes like in >>537052641 or having ever climbed a mountain because squatting at home buttfucking a goat or each other is their entire life. that's why the results look the way they do.
>>537052422I don't know about that. The minaret ban passed in 09 and 14 saw another initiative against mass immigration pass (not that anything came out of it).We're lagging behind our neighbouring countries in the enshittification process, many still have their heads in the sand. Some of my co-workers are native and are decently intelligent, and yet they're completely brainwashed when it comes to the important topics so they vote left. I fear it's going to get worse before it's going to get better.
>>537050077Next move is to hold referendums on Canton level with fixed population caps. You start with the most pro Cantons and eventually the ones without will have to cave because of too much density stress.
>>537052641Switzerland is small. You can sleep in Germany, Austria, Italy and France and then make daily tours over the border.
>>537049939Democracy is a gay retarded system, if you had a based Swiss nationalist authoritarian King this would never happen.
>>537050991I thought every county in Switzerland was autonoamous, so if lets say Wallis voted for population cap then Wallis can limit its migration?
>>537049939Now the SVP can work on real solutions instead of creating more issues by proposing retarded initiatives.Who am I kidding? They do not want to solve anything. How would they get votes if things improved?
>>537049939>55% of participants voted against, to 45% for.Okay, now let's see the result if only Swiss people had voted. It's probably 35:65 sans engineers.
>>537049939They are lusting after the>BIG>AUSTRIAN>DICK
I'm guessing this is a boomer's house?
>>537050077We need to nuke France. Nuke this islamic rathole. Nuke this disgusting cancerous place and exterminate the French identity.
>>537050077It's always the french niggers. Same thing happened with the billag referendum. Can't we just hand that part over to france?
>>537052422>10 years ago, this would've been unthinkable.I mean...
>>537054398What do you mean by that? Luckily, a swiss passport is still relatively difficult to obtain. Our main problem is boomers, who always vote according to the government's recommendations.
>>537053279leftoids have this strange belief that everyone in cities votes blue and everyone in suburbs and rural votes red. they specifically want to import browns to ruin conservatively. remember when they wanted to send all the browns to martha's vineyard? leftoids complained that it was a racist tactic and refused to live amongst browns.
>>537054798Deporting criminals and allowing legal migration of skilled workers has always been popular. But the fact that half the population wants a complete halt to migration does offer a glimmer of hope.
>>537051247Italians are the largest immigrant group, followed by Germans and Portuguese.
>>537055094Do the referendum on canton level. Then the shithole cantons will fill up and eventually also cave to the cap.
>>537049939>at the prospect of losing much-needed workers in tourism, hospitals, and care homesSo why don't the natives have children and train them to fill that role? I ask this everywhere at once.
>>537055885Because kids these days are too lazy to work. They give excuses like being paid too little for hard work
>>537051335nigga you live in the biggest shithole of europe
>>537049939There you go. This would be the result in every European country and therefore you deserve to get replaced, islamized whatever. It's not a Jewish conspiracy it's just the greed of every average european person
>>537049939Cityfags are retarded.
>>537057482wouldn't you know, truckerfag
>>537057376And, "nigga"?
>>537057624doesn't speak about nation building, zigger
>>537057932>doesn't speak Found VanyaPN.
>>537049939they held this referendum 15 years too late. now the swiss got out voted by the foreigners.
>>537049939This is the first time I have ever seen voters actually have a say in immigration anywhere. So the Swiss deserve everything they get now.
>>537051875Did you know 4 shitskins died near me yesterday? There was a neighborhood celebration for dead non-whites
>>537050077sure blame the french, but most of Switzerland didnt get higher than 60% either45 / 55 is actually an ok result, it reflects that people know it's a big issue, but we cant kill it by just closing the borders after reaching big number in year soon
>>537049939>votedSure they did
>>537050077Calm down, just limit immigration and such... why would you ever limit your local population growth if you can stop or slow immigration down to almost nothing. No one is gonna judge you mountain jews anyway.
Polls don’t close until tomorrow, this is a demoralization thread to try keep any real swissanons from voting if they haven’t yet. You can do it mountain Jews.
>>537050077That checks out. The only Swiss I ever met was a French speaking half Indian half Turk.
>>537055094I bet it's a lot more than half the population, but you won't get a majority for sinking the bilaterals, and that's what a yes to this would have meant.I doubt anyone likes PersonenfreizĂ¼gigkeit, but since the EU is retarded, it's that or an economic crisis.
Immigration is already limited and conditioned to social integration, aka holding a job without having any criminal record for at least 2 years in Switzerland. >>537054082 is absolutely right, parties are a meme in this country.
>>537058799no, the mailboxes are emptied for the last time this Sunday morning 11:00if you didnt send or bring it there, then you missed out. we're just counting the votes nowhttps://abstimmungen.admin.ch/details?proposalId=6860
>>537049939>switzerland votes to not have more than 10 million people >votes no, we can expand past 10 million people>WTF SO YOU WANT MORE NIGGERS MORE SANDFAGGOTS MORE MIGRANTS THIS IS BULLSHIT WHITE GENOCIDEi hate you stupid faggots
now that this avenue has failed, I'm sure the SVP will brainstorm other ways to fix the overcrowding and lacking infrastructure and housing problem we have
>>537059433It's all about immigration. What, do you think they're going to do some Chinese One Child Policy shit to keep the population under 10 million?
>>537059433the arguments holds since the indigenous swiss population is declining. Almost everyone knows this, and most european countries have this problemconsequently, population growth no longer comes from other european countries, like historically from neighboring countries like Italy, Germany and France, but from cultures much further away
>>537049939Does it even matter if the Swiss vote for it?In 2014, they voted against mass immigration and the referendum was just ignored.
>>537049939the problem is always the women vote
>>537059705the lack of housing we have is because it's a regulatory/litigation nightmare. sometimes it takes almost 20 years to realize projects. it's California-tier retarded, and absolutely no surprise nobody from the private sector wants to invest there.
>>537059899 And yet most of the foreign population is still from the EU: top 4 countries: >Italy >Germany >Portugal >France when we exclude all EU citizens, the proportion of non-EU foreigners is only roughly 12% of the total population - and keep in mind this also includes Slavs, which I would classify as "white". That means Switzerland is at least 88% "white" (ethnically European). For comparison: >China: 91% ethnically Han Chinese >Japan: 98% ethnically Japanese (Yamato people) To say that Switzerland will be flooded by browns is hyperbolic. We still are among the top 3 hardest countries when it comes to immigration, work permit, residency of (permanent) permit (and even then you can get kicked out for crimes if you have no citizenship) and naturalization (in most places you have to live at the same adress for 10 fucking years as a non-EU citizen before you can even apply for citizenship)
>>537049939kill city morons
>>537051314Yea, it's beautiful and yea, it's expensive. That said supermarket food has become a bit more competitive again.Smokes are not supposed to be cheap because these caused too many health care costs until now. In terms of cold hard cost-benefit higher cost on smoking works out for the state and most members of the population. Yes, it's somewhat particularly hard on smoking especially but that's how it goes when additionally people also didn't like the smoke.
>>537049939Don't worry, I'll move next year and then in 5 to 10 years you have an additional vote for anti-immigration
>>537049939Say hello to your new neighbours.
>>537061518this but not only this. the [semi-] GOVERNMENT side infrastructure -power, sewers, administration, hospitals and general practitioners, schools- also is not easily expanded and it too costs a shitload.in the end it also doesn't work elegantly because the migrants don't each drop all that money up frontboth the infrastructure and private real estate essentially is costly and it's paid both in higher costs and by worse service/worse situation by younger generationsthe whole system is more set up to build high quality and inherit most of it really. boomers got that and had a much easier life for themselves and especially with families, younger generations do not
In 2014 the people voted yes to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative>The number of residence permits for foreigners in Switzerland shall be limited by annual maximums and quotas. >The annual maximums and quotas for employed foreigners shall be set according to the overall economic interests of Switzerland with priority for Swiss nationals; cross-border commuters shall be included.All the 3 branches of the government (don't forget, it's 3 times the government) decided that this must not be turned into reality. So if you win a referendum, the government will ignore it. The joke game of law will not stop the crime of immigration, that steals my and my fellow Swisses' land and gives it to foreigners and oligarchs and corporations. It's not the land of the foreigners, the oligarchs, the corporation or that criminal enterprise that calls itself the state. It's not theirs to give away. They are criminals.
so many more swiss anons on pol than I thought
>most swiss vote by maillol, lmao even
>>537063035What's the issue with that?
>>537049939>>537050077Yeah desu you guys already have like 30-40% migrant population, they will vote against. It's too late
>>537063308A former classmate of mine from Turkey that I hadn't heard of for about a decade wrote an SMS to me that we should vote yes, otherwise we will become a hellhole like Istanbul. Immigration is terror for everyone who is here already.
>>537063261*into the trash it goes*
>>537063261It spoils the vote, because fraud is very easyand it lowers the threshold for voting for people who don't really care. Results would be very different if votes were expensive.
Referendums in a state where people are brainwashed and internalize the system to a huge extend are of no use.
>>537049939>they didn't vote for globohomo depopulation agenda trojan horse therefore they support globohomo immigrationHow about holding a referendum banning migrants, or is that too on the big nose Preddit spacing?
>>537063035only in the municipal registered citizens can vote. the same goes for any other actions that requires documentation. if you move you have 14 days to register at your new municipal. this works pretty well.
Switzerland is huge, it could house easily 50 millions confortably.
>>537050077This.Basel is also full of faggots.
>>537063920>no useLittle use, but sometimes they do work. We did ban minarets.>>537064170Fuck off, we're full.>>537062810I only post rarely. Good to see some reasonable Swiss posters here at least, most of the time I see my flag it's either the jeet or a completely brainwashed retard.
>>537063484Even if some vote yes, most will vote no, because they want to bring in their relatives as well.Soon eu migrants will be all brown as well. I have actually met multiple in hungary who want to go to switzerland. They came to study from western europe. Since they are from a far away land anyways they go for the highest pay easier than locals.The law which you voted yes on I guess 10 years ago is protecting you because it makes companies try to hire locals first, if you did not have that you would have been flooded a lot sooner.
>>537050077Balkanize then. And unite with the German speaking Ossies.
>>537063484That's the worst thing if you accept a roach or a sandnigger, nigger refugee they will bring 10 other and so on.
>>537049939This referendum was 10-15 years late. The changing demographics already reflects the voting patterns.Give it another few years and the new Europeans will vote to expel the Old ones.
>>537064367No, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Swiss_immigration_initiative was never turned into reality. The government, these criminals, ignored it. We should just transform the government buildings into jails for the workers there at this point.
>>537063484That's the interesting divide. Some of them hate the West and want to islamize it but some others actually wanted to escape their former hellholes to live in a civilized society and now are horrified that their fellow savages that that they were happy to leave behind are now following them to the their new countries. I would imagine Turks may be relatively more integrated but all those Syrians and Afghanis and Algerians and Pakis and Africans truly hate the west and have no reason to integrate and are not capable of integrating. I don't know which group is larger.
>>537050348Seething third worlder is afraid of losing his chance to live in a real country and lashes out against people who want to close the border.
>>537049939Good slaughter is always as option to keep population numbers under control.
>>537054930>Our main problem is boomers, who always vote according to the government's recommendations.it's the same in germany.remember to always point and laugh when you see a boomer idiot getting stabbed by one of the niggers they adore so much.