>worships a Jew>worships the god of Israel>believes in the Torah>believes in the king of the Jews>believes in the king of the Jews>is a sheep for the Jewish shepherdChristians, STOP WORSHIPPING JEWS.
>>537058845No
>>537058882Why do you want to worship Jews so badly
>>537058910because Christ is divine? and jews killed him even thou he was divine?
>>537058910You should read the Bible before trying to talk shit. I used to do that, cherrypick verses as some stupid "gotcha". Then i started reading the context before and after. Then i started realizing jews hate Jesus Christ, everyone attacks Jesus and Christians and hide behind "you dont punch down, only up". Thats simply a subconscious acknowledgement of inferiority. None of us are worthy in the eyes of Christ. But he still gave his life you.
>>537059102You want to worship Jews because they are magic? That’s just what the Jews told you to stop you worshipping your own gods.
>>537059102It's Jew on Jew violence.
>>537059182>you should try reading a Bible before talking shitIsaiah 60:12 the nation that will not serve will be crushedIsaiah 60:16: Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings; and thou shalt know that I the Lord,Zechariah 12:9 I will destroy all nations who come against Jerusalem.This is the figure you are willingly worshipping. The Jewish messiah sent to destroy your country and force you to worship him. Stop. Worshipping. Jews.
>>537058845STOP BEING A JEW.
>>537059182>You should read the Bible before trying to talk shitWe did you presumptuous retard. Christianity is just Judaism but in the way Jesus interpreted it. Did you forget he came to fulfill the Talmud and not one word will be changed? What do you think that means for us goys? It was Paul that spread it to the goys and believed that his return will happen in his lifetime.
>>537058910lmao. don't even bother with these insane shitheads. they're too far gone
Christians live rent free in your jeet/kike head.
>>537059420Now do context. Don't rely on single lines bro. Seriously, thats retarded. Read the whole of Isaiah 60. Understand whats going on in those stories.
> Christians, STOP WORSHIPPING JEWS.Where is your temple, brother? What god do you serve?
>>537058910Literally just to piss you off
>>537059520>seethes uncontrollably at something that isn’t his business and doesn’t affect himThe mark of sanity (lol)
>>537059477The talmud came way after Christ. Come on man. Paul was an example of a redemption arc. You should focus more on the Gospels first and foremost. Paul and Peter are about how society and shit should operate under Christ's teachings. Theyre good for guidance, but are not the Gospel. Another thing to understand.
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>>537059695I don't believe in imaginary invisible sky people
>>537059420>For the LORD your YHWH will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you.Deteronomy 15:6
Based. Fuck spiritual niggerdom.
>>537058845the pro christian posters are always kikes, nonwhites, and almost always reveal themselves to be antiwhite. It was the kikes most powerful tool against Europeans, it was the only thing that gave kikes power.
>>537059467STOP WORSHIPPING A RABBI>Peter said to Jesus, “Rabbi, it is good for us to be here. Let us put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”Mark 9:5https://biblehub.com/mark/9-5.htm
>>537058845Stop pretending not to know what the Pharisees or Talmud is. We've explained this to you a gorillion times and we didn't even have to because you already knew the origins of your religion.
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>>537060522I don’t need love from a dead jewish rabbi
>>537058845
How to write + in Hebrew ?
>>537060609the 3 abrahamic faiths need to be put back into pandoras box, all followers need to be saved or cleansed
>>537058845>Christians, STOP WORSHIPPING JEWS.Just one.Seethe about it, satan.
>>537060683according to abrahamic lore you dont get into heaven if you kill your own. So billions of christians and muslims literally only exist to be kike slaves.
>>537058845Stop worshiping period. Worshiping is for brown people.
>>537060522> if only you knew how much god loves forskins
>>537060825Mentally ill fuck
>>537060911lmao
>>537059749Wether it's the Talmud or the Torah, Jesus came to have the world follow it in his way. The Bible was written in a way to help legitimize Christians and their claims like any other Messiah that came before and after Jesus. Paul had to make up a dream and make himself look good in his books. Christians have historically created forgeries to make their claims true. Even other Christians have to later call them out for it.You want us to live under Jewish rule. Not the way Paul wants it, but the way Rabbi Yeshua intended. None of which is true.
>>537059477>Jesus came to fulfill the talmud (which you've capitalized)Are you really sure that's the best you've got? Next you'll say Siddhartha came to make straight the ways of Joseph Smith lol
>>537060825None of those are real. It's all man made.
>>537061002Nonsense. Because there is no God.
>>537060609Simple. There is no God. No Allah, no El, no Satan, none. You can find meaning your own way all by yourself.
>>537060602You do. Just dont realize it yet.
>>537058910You have Christianity derangement syndrome.
>>537061054>None of those are real. It's all man made.jews aren't real? Did you respond to the right post? Are you retarded or just a bot?
>>537060609To answer your pic, atheists attach the idea of "belief" and "faith" entirely. What is it that I believe? That believing something just because a jew wrote it down in a book 2000 years ago is dumb. I do indeed wish you would stop believing in jewish fairy tales. You heritage and identity is to make hebrew/jewish history your religion? To worship jews and follow their laws? I don't want you to be confused, conflicted, or hopeless. I want you to stop being a mindraped slave.
>>537060891Old tradition not required anymore. And it wasn't the whole foreskin, just a nick back in the day. Jews eventually convinced retards it was the whole thing because it kept them from having babies due to infections.
>>537060955Dont focus on Paul. As an individual, your focus should be on The Gospels only. As an institution, government, nation, thats when paul and peter come into play. Not so much as the individual.
>>537061254I mean the supernatural. Jewish, Christian, Muslim, satanic, pagan religions are all man made.
>>537061347ok, so it was responding to the wrong post. You're forgiven.
>>537061272>Old tradition not required anymoreI guess there is nothing to fulfill. All prophecies are man made anyway. That's for all religions.
>>537060100But Jesus Christ does believe in you.
>>537061466The Old testament mattered in the old world. Christ fulfilled the Old order, and made a new one. This shit isnt hard to understand, but yes it takes effort. You should read multiple translations and shit, it all matters. Sometimes youve been taught certain ways your whole life, you need a different translation to make it make sense.
>>537061346Rabbi Yeshua intended for the whole world be under his interpretation of Judaism. The instructions for slavery and waging war were ment for us Goyim who they see as cattle. That's the nation you want us to live. That's the world Abrahamics want.Tell me. Were you born a goy or a Jew?
>>537061605>This shit isnt hard to understand, but yes it takes effort.It isn't because there is no God. In order to believe it 100% you would have to believe in dragons, ghosts, demons, and the supernatural. Anyway, I'm sure you read 2000 year old religious texts the right way and not how religious scholars argued over it for 2000 years. What I'm trying to say is that you're running in circles.
Reminder that the 10 "Lost Tribes of Israel" are the White Europeans.Modern "Jews" are Edomites, the real Judah are the Germanic people.https://youtube.com/watch?v=2CI-JNCMtTk&pp=ygUeMTAwIHByb29mcyB3aGl0ZSBwZW9wbGUgaXNyYWVs
>>537061853>you would have to believe in dragons, ghosts, demons, and the supernatural.What if I do?
>>537061119ITABit non sequitur, innit? You open with an ad hominem, blatant historical blunder (while claiming to be well read), and can't address it. Every knee includes yours, Christ be with you.
>>537063269Cope. Run away.
>>537063269>>537060955
Why as a white man should I care about some book written by schizo sandniggers thousands of years ago.
>>537063848There are people who banked their whole life on this. It can't be for nothing so they shut themselves out from anyone who challenges it
>>537063444>The Bible was written for ChristiansYour post is drivel, what did Ezra read to his people? Not to mention that, if you've read it, the Bible is pretty clear that it's for everyone. You haven't read it, I accept your concession.
>>537063848Because that book is about your ancestors, the Israelites are the progenitors of the Celts.
>>537064055Cope. It was for the Jews and Jews alone and the Goyim (us) have a part to play as the cattle. If I could quote Harry Potter to you like how some quote the Bible, you would know how nonsensical this all sounds.
>>537059524/thread>>537060255
The greatest modern White martyrs have all either been Christian Identity or at least involved with it, going back to Gordon Kahl.
>>537064285kekthe israelites were defeated and raped/enslaved by the assyrians, persians, and babylonians.biblical israel = whore of the middle east
>>537058845>jesus was a jewwhatever kike, your weird cult isn't jewish either
You're getting too caught up and whether something is or isnt jewish.I don't care if jesus was a jew, because he also whipped other jews and other jews wanted to kill him because he told them that gods grace is extended to everybody
537064439Oh... You are jewish and that's why you're so adamant about this. You refuse to acknowledge the grafting in and fulfilment of the previous testament and all that. Sorry yid, but Jesus was enough to cover all my sins for a fair share of the Kingdom.
>>537061190no you cant.
>>537064788False.
>>537064530https://rumble.com/v554qeh-the-judeo-conspiracy-exposed.html?e9s=src_v1_upp_f
>>537064779Reply to me like a man. Abrahamics, pagans, and anyone who believes in the supernatural are fooling themselves. There is no God. Just you.
>>537064871what meaning has your life then?
>>5370645302000 years ago people had a lack of understanding on how the natural world works. An 8th grade textbook has more truth than a 2000 year old religious texts trying to explain how the world works.
>>537064973>If you dont belib in an imaginary dead kike on a stick your life has no meaning
>>537064888
>>537065076
>>537064285I'm not a celt and no they are not the progenitors of the celts your fucking retard.
>>537065075you didnt answer my question.what meaning in life do you have?you said you dont need God to have meaning, so please give the evidence.
>>537064973To be happy and have fun. To go out and travel the world and to experience it all before the short time I have ends. I have already visited Poland, Mexico, Kuwait and many places. I could go on, but you get the jist. The best part? I wasn't miserable in the slightest and I'm still traveling.
>>537060255Jesus was a jew the same way George Washington was Syrian
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>>537065222>before the short time I have endssee, I dont have that problem.
>>537065180What meaning in life do you have?
>>537058882 >>537059102 >>537059524 >>537060825 >>537061228 #So it's out in the open now. Christians know they worship a jew and they're proud of it and they like it. That's the end of the debate.
>>537065296So sad. It doesn't exist.
>>537065112>>537065285Regardless of who I agree with, maybe this is a good example of why you shouldn't try to justify human politics with the divine. It's that easy to try and bend it either way, and neither really makes an argument, because a claim != an argument.
>>537065258so then you accept the bible is false? >>537065285>He rejected Christian teachings such as mercy, equality, and the Old Testament, instead promoting a secular, pagan-inspired ideology that glorified strength and natural selection.
>>537065530>with the divineWhat is the divine?
>>537065258See: >>537064585
>>537065414living in a eternal world with God without suffering, death or corruption.never again having to deal with tyrants, corrupt officials or being lied to by media.>>537065512if only you knew. 80 years in this fallen world has nothing to offer.
>>537065530>>537064888
>>537065561https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/NSChristianity.html#speech
>>537065602Whatever people view as perfectly higher than human in ideal or form, I suppose.
>>537065646nigger, are you describing heaven? So your meaning is just to die?
>>537065710>Goebbels diaries
>>537065676I'm not clicking your rumble link, weirdo :p
>>537065285Pro christian quotes from a guy whose regime lasted only 12 years and most lasting contribution to the world was managing to kill millions of whites and destroy Europe.This isn't the kind of glowing endorsement for Christianity you think it is.
>>537065646>80 years in this fallen world has nothing to offer.Were you always this grim? This world has everything to offer. You can go out and do it yourself. Why is it that I'm happy and content with there being no supernatural beings and you're not?
>>537065809
>>537065753>So your meaning is just to die?the fuck dont you get about eternal LIFE.>>537065852who says I am not happy.I have been given already more than I would ever deserve and its only the down payment.the only thing that sucks is having to put up with satanists that suck everyone dry.
>>537061272You worship a entity who was willing to kill Moses over it …I think its just a little more the desert hygiene since it was the first covenant Abraham made with this entity
537065887>Asked to post an original thought>Perceived ad hominem in reYeah we're done here.
>>537065808
>>537065753crossjews used to seek death but nowadays they just wait for old age.
>>537058845The Bible is entirely based on circular logic.Trying to convince a Christian to be logical is basically telling them that they are going to die and burn in hell when they stop having faith.It takes deep meditation and thinking to break free of belief and most if not all of them will not do this.and the jews can use that faith to keep them believing in other things also. It's really sad to think people can be fucked over by people so evil
>>537066010Why does that shock you, the killing Moses bit? God is perfect, God demanded Moses carry out this task, Moses did not do so. People forgiven little understand mercy little, but Moses was saved by mercy from the repentance of his wife. The delay in killing him would be understood, like with David, as a narrowing opportunity for what God really wants: a repentant heart.
>>537065994>its only the down paymentYou view it as transactional? Why not free?>the only thing that sucks is having to put up with satanists that suck everyone dryAnd they are fooling themselves in believe that Satan exists when he is in fact man made.
>>537066037>abrahamic can only lie >refuses to watch a video >must keep pushing kike lies you have nothing to stand on, just lies. >>537066065I really don't understand the point of this, its well known they were going to phase out christianity for wotan. You cant win a political race as an antichristian when the country is christian.
>>537066037>she's already cryingthe image of the vicar of cuck is actually real, stupid negresslmao
OP is a jew or a shitskin and his whole race should be exterminated
>>537065986Ironic, a quote on the television from a cryptojew that doesn't want you to watch television.
>>537066192>your mind on Hebraic brainrot
>>537066275>shitskinPlease do not search for the global demographics of christniggerdom
>>537066244>You view it as transactional? Why not free?its free. as I said, I did nothing to deserve what I was already given, and then its only a little of the full package.>And they are fooling themselves in believe that Satan exists when he is in fact man made.no, they know that it works and that he is real. thats the problem.
>>537066271Grok on the chan? Crazy!
537066334>ad hominem, no argument Guess we're done here.
>>537059182If Jesus had a wife, you fucked her a hundred times and then asked for forgiveness, would he grant it? Jesus' entire gimmick is forgiving anyone who apologizes and implores forgiveness. If he doesn't do this it spites his entire existing lore and the subsequent philosophy of Christianity that's stemmed from it. If Jesus didn't forgive you for cuckolding him then there would be "gaps" in forgiveness too great for even Jesus to tolerate, which would then propose the follow-up question of "Well what are Jesus' limits then?" This would be a strictly logical discussion, imploring Christian followers to suddenly begin imparting limitations and rules onto their holy ghost, which I can't envision going very well. A lot of Christianity's appeal is that forgiving deity who loves you. Limitations would not only spoil this but could easily be extrapolated, especially by "authorities" such as the most recent form of papacy. Now let's say you fucked Jesus' theoretical wife and he forgave you. Wouldn't that make him a cuckold deity and therefore horribly embarrassing to worship? Christianity has been conquered many times by its rivals. Christianity has also been dismissed as "faith for the plebeians", long accused of attracting the easily-duped "cattle goyim." There's tons of gaps where God promised protection and did not provide it in any evident way, wherein the Christian response is typically some form of coping about eternal life after a humiliating death. Jesus forgiving anyone who transgresses him in such a resonating way would result in Christianity having an extremely difficult time redeeming itself in the eyes of spiritualists and pragmatists alike; God does not seem to answer prayers, and the Christians allow themselves to be violated to the point where even their messiah is an eternally-permissive cuckold.
>>537066420>Paragraphs of whataboutismLol there's no reason to read past your opening line babeThat's crazy, and I'm sorry or really happy for you!
>>537066415yet you keep posting lies you are a mindless kike slave with nothing to say
antisemites are just low iq and the highest iq is a christian
>>537066530But if Jesus had a wife, you fucked her a hundred times and then asked for forgiveness, would he grant it?
>>537066530>cant answer
>>537066625Is that what you wrote about? Lol, I dunno. Sounds like a whataboutism, and not a good faith argument.
>>537066420the whole shtick is meant for the sheep.The best example is the sex scandals.The priest/pastor gets to sit on his ass in prison and the sheep will pay the settlements(s).And in some cases the pastor has significant control over the sheep so the sheep will just forgive him and not report him.
>>537066367>they know that it works and that he is real. thats the problem.Them believing that worshipping a man made being will make all their dreams come true is false. Like I said they are fooling themselves like how kids believe Harry Potter is real. Nothing is eternal. What everyone has in common with each other is that our lives are short.
>>537066775But if Jesus had a wife, you fucked her a hundred times and then asked for forgiveness, would he grant it?
>>537066619Believing in the supernatural is like believing Pokemon exists.
>>537060498>o-ohhh no Paul was a PhariseeYou decided to omit the part that shows Paul was persecuted and killed because he left the Pharisees. Kike.
>>537066806https://www.britannica.com/topic/whataboutismThis should help clear that up, champ!
>>537066952This seems like an easy question for a loyal Christian to answer. Jesus had a wife, you fucked her a hundred times and then asked for forgiveness, would he grant it?
>>537061605>>537061853Sides A and B of controlled opposition>there is no god>yes there is! And he loves all races equally!
>>537061347>I mean the supernaturalSo you mean the supernatural isn't real? You're a stupid faggot, you're saying this in 2026, dude. You're a fucking kike kid fucker devil worshipper if you deny the supernatural is real.
>>537067006When did Jesus marry? If you can clear up that lapse in my knowledge, maybe I can address it better. Since you're asking in good faith, and all.
>>537067090>If
>>537066806>But if Jesus had a wifeHe didn't have one in the first place.>you fucked her a hundred times and then asked for forgiveness, would he grant it?That's not how forgiveness of sin is granted. You're either saved or you're not. You clearly aren't.
>>537067090its a simple hypothetical question. But you have nothing to say regardless.
>>537059102>Christ is divine>Source: jewsI bet you believe the holocaust too
>>537066804>make all their dreams come true is falsethey have all the riches in the worldthey make the laws without being accountablethey are above the law thats why they will never face persecution or imprisonmentthey own the law enforcement and courtsif they need an organ transplant they dont have to go through the recipient listthey enrich themselves on the pooryou will never enter their ranks if you dont submit to their satanic cultsthey traffic humans, children, women etcthey own estates, castles, palacesthey rape, torture and get off to itand all the while they brag about it and rub it into your face saying outright which side they are onand you dumb goy just stand there and say its all made upyoure a fool, no wonder they call us cattle
>>537067090>breakfast? yeah i has'd dat
>>537067143>He didn't have one in the first place.Breakfast status?
>>537067215>breakfast>>537067235>BreakfastKikes/bots, lol
>>537067303>belibs in an imaginary kike on a stick
>>537067341>ImaginaryJesus is very real. I believe in him 100%, not even a question about his existence, this should make you shudder.
>>537067401I'm shuddering with laughter because you're an actual nigger who can't pass the breakfast hypothetical.
>>537067401why would I shudder at people that play make belib?
>>537067401Regardless of religious beliefs, there's no doubt that the Romans crucified an itinerant preacher in Judea around 30AD. There's been a lot of claims of "reading" and whatnot ITT, but you have to be kidding to ignore the historical evidence for the person Jesus.
>>537067464>>537066952>can't You don't wear superiority well. You might need to post that monkey paw you call a hand.
>>537067519surely you would be able to post some of that evidence right? Or just continue on with saying nothing?
>>537059102Well he isn’t so divine if he was able to be killed by jews
Christ is God in human flesh. He chose a Jew to incarnate into because the Jews were simultaneously one of the few monotheistic faiths on Earth at the time and also one of the most wrong about it because they kept trying to cheat the system while also condemning people for not following a law to the letter, rather than spirit, that following to the letter was never possible.And while he was here he also confirmed a few mystical secrets that other faiths were teaching to. God is within you, and within everyone else. You have the ability to tap into his power if only you have faith.
>>537067464>can't pass the breakfast hypothetical.I could very well say something stupid like "I would have been hungry." But that's playing your kike's game. Why would I do that?>niggerRespect your ancestors, kike, lol.>>537067518Not make believe, man, it's simply the truth, Jesus existed. You can dispute his divinity, which I don't because I believe in him, I've seen enough to know he is God.
>>537067700The truth is not in your favor. There is zero evidence for the existence of moses, abraham, king solomon, jesus, mary, muhammed, or aieysha. You just play make belib.
>>537067631Spirit is divine and cannot be killed. The body can be killed.The spirit of Christ resurrected his body.
>>537067586My last response to you, if you're going to continue misbehaving. Here is a more secular source, describing Flavius Josephus and his accounts of the crucifixion. There were a number of writings corroborating some Jesus person, but his come to mind.https://www.history.com/articles/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
>>537067187If you believe your God created everything then Satan was created by God. Your God can just unmake him and banish all suffering. Should be easy. You wouldn't need a wall of text listing all the terrible things satanists are doing. Like I said. These people are delusional to believe in the supernatural and it's through their efforts alone that made it happen.
>>537067401He was killed like any other person who slightly inconvenience the Romans. Romans loved making spectacles of their power over others.
>>537067700Today, if you sit in mediation, you will hear the voice of God, and you will be happy. Be blessed.
>>537067819By Christian logic my spirit was already immune to being killed. Also in the context of "eternity" even if I was tortured for Christian transgression, Jesus lore says he will arrive a second time and save everyone, even those in Hell. So in theory the best existence you could possibly live would involve amusing sins 99% of the time, pleading forgiveness at the last second, and either receiving it or being rescued by Jesus during the first 0.0000000000000000000001% of your eternal torment.You see how this shit doesn't make any sense when you aren't a sand-person with an IQ of like 50?
>>537067401>I believe in him 100%, not even a question about his existence, >this should make you shudder.>>this should make you shudder.American anon being right you most likely pass the breakfast test as well as bottom rung LLM. Does your monkey brain fathom at least a little bit how this statement of yours is projecting indian levels of delusional gloating? Especially as a christian supposedly, you're truly fucking fine being so self-important you think your belief is the law?
>>537067819Kek. So no one can be really killed. Christcucks aren’t human
>>537067849>https://www.history.com/articles/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence>Mykytiuk agrees with most scholars that Christian scribes modified portions of the passage but did not insert it wholesale into the text. >There is no definitive physical or archaeological evidence of the existence of Jesus. so, nothing. You would think if someone resurrected it would have been documented far and wide, instead of in a kike text.
>>537058910pisses cornballs off, honestly im perfectly fine if Christ isnt actually god, or there is no god or odin actually the supreme being of the universe. i like being christian and dont have any regrets about it.
>>537067957>He was killed like any other person who slightly inconvenience the Romans. Romans loved making spectacles of their power over others.He ascended into heaven, amem.>>537067811>There is zero evidence for the existence of moses, abraham, king solomon, jesus, marySimply not true. We may not have many proofs about Moses and Abraham, but that's because they're time is remote. But there's many interesting things in their story that only a person living there at that time would know. About Salomon, there is no direct inscription saying "I am Solomon," but a kingdom existed in the region during the period traditionally associated with David and Solomon. Scholars debate how large and powerful it was, as for the claim about not having any proofs Jesus of Nazareth existed is simply false. Most professional historians, including many non Christians and atheists, agree that Jesus existed. There's references in the writings of Tacitus. References in the works of Josephus. Multiple early Christian sources written within decades of his life. As for Mary, if Jesus existed, she clearly did as well.
>>537068109The next line, this poster omitted:>“There’s nothing conclusive, nor would I expect there to be,” Mykytiuk says. >“Peasants don’t normally leave an archaeological trail.”You have to read the whole thing, and stop spamming about liars when you're being so disingenuous. No more (you)s
>>537067980Your spirit is indeed immune to being killed. But as you stand above your own dead corpse, would you have any amount of faith that you could bring it back to life and reincarnate into that very body that had just died? You certainly would have doubts that such a thing would be possible, and so it would be impossible for you. But for one who knows he is God, such a thing is trivial.
>>537068068>you most likely pass the breakfast testYou don't even know how to write a negative sentence in English, are you sure you're in a position to criticize me?
>>537058910Because everyone who hates Jesus is much worse. No exceptions. No argument.
>>537068270What happens to the damned souls after the destruction of hell? I'm not sure what you're saying is totally scriptural.
>>537067697You seem to argue in good faith so that would be interesting to probe. >He chose a Jew to incarnate into because the Jews were simultaneously one of the few monotheistic faiths on Earth at the time and also one of the most wrong about it because they kept trying to cheat the system while also condemning people for not following a law to the letter, rather than spirit, that following to the letter was never possible.I want to fathom this thinking process of yours. Are you some kind of gnostic and will proclaim bible is largely fake or not since actual fucking bible, even the new testament, couldn't be more philosemetic and jew centric, infact so centric christianity is incompatible with non-jews if not for saul's gospels. I am genuinely interested what's your internal process for belief that "ultimate God of all" choose to incarnate in most degenerate and demonic "people" in the history of Earth. And by the way, it is not hard to prove jews have been always like ever since they were discovered by ANY society.
>>537067892>Your God can just unmake him and banish all suffering. Should be easy.yes, and everything that is under satan will be eradicated with him. that includes most of humanity.God is long suffering in allowing evil for the sake of human souls.>it's through their efforts alone that made it happenno, satan was able to offer Jesus all kingdoms of the world for a reason. he owns them.
>>537068254nice projectionYou would think if someone resurrected it would have been documented far and wide, instead of in a kike text. >>537068223The first time the name moses appears in texts is 1600's after his death. And his story is a jewish rewrite of sumerian/akkadian/babylonian mythology. none of those writings say jesus, they just talk about christians. Tacitus wrote that christianity was an evil from judea.
>537068327lol, lmao Literally monkey reading comprehension. This thing genuinely probably is below 80 IQ
>>537068270What inherent value lies in faith if you could hover over your own corpse as a ghost, look directly at God and use both of these experiences as logical proof Christianity was correct all along? Why exactly is faith in something (that cannot be proven with material logic) only important within the material realm, where logical is integral to survival? Why does the validity of finding faith "expire" when you die specifically? Because it really seems like if you die, become a ghost, look at your own corpse and see God, suddenly conceding to God's point (becoming Christian in other words) no longer counts because you were dead when it happened. I don't know what kind of moral message this is meant to impart, "Only sheep who believe what they're told will enter the domain of paradise, which I uniformly control; all thinkers will be banished to eternal torture." What?
>537068613ID: Op7aLCpaThis user continues to make bad faith statements without direction or provocation. For the purposes of archival, his posts should be regarded as the deranged scrawlings of a lunatic, useless for any purpose besides occupying bits.
>>537068367You would be accurate to suggest that my understanding of God does not exclusively come from the Bible. And I would additionally tell you that the Bible, like many other religious texts, is full of half truths. The name of the game is to figure out how to separate truth from fiction. I will give you one universal truth: there is one God, and it is both within you and all around you. And if you go somewhere quiet, away from all earthly distractions, close your eyes, and clear your mind of all earthly concerns, you will meet with God if you genuinely seek to know it.For everything beyond this universal truth, for every burning question you have, I leave you to discover the answers through mediation. The truth will reveal itself to those who ask.
>>537068613>none of those writings say jesus, they just talk about christians. Tacitus wrote that christianity was an evil from judea.Absolutely false, this argument is based on a partial reading of the sources. Tacitus literally wrote: the name "Christians" came from "Christus," and that Christus suffered the death penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilate. That's not just "there were Christians." It's a statement about the founder himself. The passage does explicitly refer to Christ being executed by Pilate. Tacitus is evidence for Jesus.
>>537068495>God is long suffering in allowing evil for the sake of human souls.Unnecessary since he can just unmake all suffering now. >satan was able to offer Jesus all kingdoms Satan and all supernatural beings like him don't exist.
>>537058845Hey paganchud, we don’t worship all Jews just one Jew. Besides what else is saving the white race? Christianity is like 95% white European and only growing in white majority countries
>>537068904>nothing to say
>>537068984>Christianity is like 95% white European
>>537068943Nope, that's all bologna. Jesus says he's the Way, the Truth and the Life. If he was the Word and is the Word, then it's not logical for the Word to be incomplete. You can believe what you want, but you're not a Christian, and that will damn you.
>>537068951and thats why having traveled is the best you can come up with when it comes to meaning in life.sad.
>>537069033Never mind sorry I just looked up everything I said and except for Jesus being Jewish everything else is completely wrong
>>537068904See: 537069020
>>537068944>does not say jesus >just says christians and rome killed christians for a long time.
>>537058845Why do Jews keep making this stupid thread.
>>537069215Because jesus won't let them rape kids without going to hell.
>>537068951>Satan and all supernatural beings like him don't exist.Say that to Epstein and the Enki/Satan statue he had made on his island.
>>537058845I worship god through the decendant of an Israelite. Judah wasn't the only Israelite. and here is a kicker, Ashkenazi are Khazarians and converted to the Jewish faith. so they're Canaanites not Semites.they are the ones causing all of these problems because they occupied State of Israel first in 1948. they came out of Bolshevik Soviet Union that they created to Run Israel as the false lamb that Jesus warned us aboutAre you some Jeet, Raj? I know you're not British or English. British are Celtics not Brown Ethnic peopleSo fuck off with your instigating shit, you shit eater (literal too)
>>537068647>Jesus said to them, “Because of your unbelief. For truly I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. And nothing will be impossible for you."Now go look in the direction of your nearest mountain. Tell it to move. Did it not move? Perhaps consider that you had much greater faith that it would not move. You are of the belief that *you* are your body, and thus the only thing that you can move is that body. But if you have the knowledge of being something that is omnipresent, then moving that mountain should feel no different from wiggling your fingers.Who are you? Are you your body, or are you a divine being puppeting your body and pretending not to know that you're puppeting all the others?
>>537069215I think because if Christianity collapses Judaism would disappear. So since they’re actually kazarian Gypsy Nazis. They want Christianity to not worship Jews or at least realize that they’re the only thing protecting Judaism (not the real ones though the fake ones)
>>537069101Don't assume you know me anon. I've only given you small summary. I am happy and content with the time I have with myself and others. All while knowing that God doesn't exist.Your God is unnecessarily making you suffer. When in fact there is none.
>>537069175I literally quoted for you from the text, but you rather ignore the fact he mentions it comes from Christus and he suffered the death penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of Pontius Pilate, it's clearly talking about Jesus.
>>537069364>Your God is unnecessarily making you suffer.stop making shit up.everyone suffers at some point in their life, even you, without believing God.so who makes you suffer?
>>537069362>I think because if Christianity collapses Judaism would disappear.Incorrect. Not to defend the jews, absolutely not as some malicious retards would want to read this as. But the main enemy and true threat is judaism or rather it's memetics. It's genuinely a memetic mind virus and while jews are it's patient zero, it can survive even without them. Because thing is judaism will regenerate and create new jews as long as it is embed in any judaistic branch that gathers mouthbreathers around. Christians could purge all the jews and erase even all jewish texts but all it take for jews to reemerge is one coordinated group of psychopaths making a secret society and just lifting out of the bible the 5 old testament books that make the torah. And from there they will regenerate talmud organically and the cycle will begin all over again. This is so pervasive it even extends to idealogies and communism down the line would eventually regenerate the jews as well simply through memetics the normalcattle population is the host of.
>>537069337You're a man, and the mountain didn't move because your faith isn't in your power to move it. The core of that message is not about the quantity of faith, but its substance. You're really twisting these passages beyond their meaning, to a point of contradiction. You should go to church.
>>537069367he does not say jesus. you refuse to acknowledge that.You worship a jew, christians are the only reason kikes still exist and have any power. kikes are not scared at all of christians >>537064888
>>537058845They're NOT Jews https://youtu.be/b96kJF8iWWU
>>537069058A small handful of words on their own can be true. But without context, you don't understand why they are true. And if you package them together with words that are not true, the words that were true do not stop being true, but their truthfulness may be used to construe other, false statements as true.Jesus is the word. But is Moses also? Or Paul? Could these men have made mistakes in interpreting divine inspiration? If we listen only to Christ, we are nonetheless left with some peculiar mysteries. Luckily, Christ told us to pray in the same manner that I have told us to meditate. Go into your closet where no one else is, and shut out the world.
>>537069496>stop making shit upI should be saying that to you>everyone suffers at some point in their life, even you, without believing God.Yeah, that's called living a normal life.>so who makes you suffer?I haven't suffered the wrath of another person in a while so it's just allergies to pollen now. But that normal.
>>537061566You sure know a lot about a dead Jew you never met
>>537069799You're not a Christian, so I don't care to debate your religious beliefs.
>>537059102What proof for this do we actually have other than a book written by former jews tho?If Jesus really is God then yeah it makes sense, but you need more proof than a book saying so.
>>537069274And just like the stone that statue was created from, all man made.
>>537065222>visiting KuwaitWhy. Lmao.
>>537069896When is the last time you talked to God directly?
>>537069896No no no that is not the way. They’re gunna call you a woke retard for not debating. You should compete in the arena of ideas. Regardless of how silly or Jewish the beliefs
>>537070052Just for fun. I have a lot of free time on my hands. Sandstorms while a heavy rain is happening was fun because I didn't experience something like that in the states. That was a long while ago.
>>537069799This sounds similar to gnostism without the demiurge.but then again Jesus also did say Satan was the prince of the material realm so that is also a very gnostic statement.Is Satan the Demiurge? Is that your belief?
>>537070186That’s cool man. But just to let you know you’re wasting your time with these christcucks. They are using us as entertainment for their boredom. They basically aren’t human, and anyone who wants to discover the truth can go find it himself, they don’t need it hand-fed to them.
>>537058845What should we worship instead, O Wise One?
>>537070068Every morning, at least. You're not attempting to qualify what you mean by your question, so I won't do so with my answer.
>>537070187The nature of suffering is one that I don't fully understand yet, so I do not hold music to beliefs about its origin.I'm probably somewhere between Gnostic and Hermetic.
>>537070137You get it.
>>537070352Babylon, sodomy, money, consumerism, porn, pussy and the noahide laws
Don’t look at meI love bacon and pork products
>>537070428A simple answer is fine for a simple question. Since you speak to God regularly, ask Him to reveal to you where in life you make assumptions that are incorrect. I will leave you with nothing more than this, for your walk with God must be a personal one.
>>537070352I don’t think it’s about what to worship as long as it’s not a magically Jewish fairytale. That’s kind of the starting point. Or if you’re going to worship fairytales worship the ethnic gods of your ancestors before the original antifa got to them ya. But I don’t think you should be suggested or recommended to worship anything
>>537070648You don't worship my God, I don't appreciate your advice. You have spouted heretical nonsense under the guise of mysticism, ignoring why the gnostics were heretics. Like I said, (you) need to find a church and attend regularly.
>>537070448On suffering Suffering seems to create strength, I suppose a question is, did that need to be or is it simply the mechanism that was chosen.Could a different mechanism have been chosen or is it because primordially its the most effective one.Could God be introducing suffering on himself for the same reason?
>>537070790I tried the church thing but it was a lot of Nigerians and if you said anything about Jews not being chosen or Jewish not being Jewish they’d get really angry
Total Abrahamic Death
>>537070799The basic Christian answer would be that we induced suffering by learning of good and evil. Without defining suffering or anything, there was no sin or suffering in Eden, and can't be in God's presence. Suffering is a broad category, but from that sin, some things were God induced, like having to work the ground harder for produce and pain in childbirth. The rest would be resultant of sin, with the implication being that there is no sin or suffering under God's perfect plan. The only indication of God "suffering" are things that occur when we sin and grieve him, break his heart, draw him to wrath. Plenty of examples of God's suffering, but I know of no example in which human sin isn't the cause.
>>537058845There have always been a few good Jews among them, and Christ was the best of them all.
>>537070909I beg anyone to tell me they're a people that don't need Jesus. However, they're not culturally compatible to you and that could impact worship and fellowship. You need to have somewhere to worship, tithe, and somewhere to serve, and finding a church usually is the easiest way to do all 3. It's a process, but I'm not down with schism, so when it's brought up at my church, I tell them that if the I in AIPAC stood for Italian, we'd consider it a mafia organization. Until they ask me to leave, I feel blessed to have a body to belong to and even disagree with.
>>537071114>The only indication of God "suffering" are things that occur when we sin and grieve him, break his heart, draw him to wrath. Plenty of examples of God's suffering, but I know of no example in which human sin isn't the cause.Jesus suffering on the cross and the strength that gave to Christianity as a religion.
>>537059182The cherry picking argument is retarded at best and disingenuous at worst. People are able to cherry pick the Bible because it contradicts itself. It contradicts itself because it's a collection of dozens of writers across several millenia, it was never intended to fit together and make sense as a singular narrative. People cherry pick the Bible in an attempt to rub your arrogant nose in the fact that the whole thing was jewish snake oil from the get go; poorly cobbled together as jewish liars will always attempt to to do.
>>537064888>Can't address the argument>schizo postDenounce the talmud >>537065051>Can't address the argumentYou mean those 8th grade text books that say a man in a dress is a woman?
>>537071283There was just too manyBlack people in the church for me though…. I like being around my own people. Filipinos too. Like I wasn’t a minority by any means but idk like 50/50 split maybe? Wasn’t my scene What about them never being chosen? Did ya try that one
Imagine subscribing to a semitic desert death cult and then actually having the gall to walk around with your held held high as though you were actually based. Lmao.
>>537071457>purposely use the bible wrong>it's the bible's fault people are disingenuous
>>537071334Jesus suffered on the cross for what reason? Exclusively the absolution of human sin, which is what I said already.
>>537071514If you know who is and isn't chosen, you know better than anyone. However, the simple fact is you either have churches near you and there's one for you, or you're expected to plant one. Given your flag, your likely within 50 miles of our Northern border. You have church options. Faith without works is dead.
>>537071140Jews racemix to the extent that the occasional good jew is a result of their non jewish DNA rebelling in disgust against the semitic garbage DNA. Such is the case, I think with Jesus of Nazareth, Bobby Fischer, Hitler's doctor, ect.
>>537071707No I know but like even to plant one and I’m surrounded by Nigerians? Not really something I’m down with I guess
>>537071580>Exclusively the absolution of human sinBy strengthening himself and allowing the religion to propagate.In your own beliefs if Jesus didnt suffer on the cross could human sin have been abolished? Could Christianity have been the most dominant religion on the planet? That is a question to think about is it not, is this not considered strengthening himself? Especially since Christianity says you need to have faith in him to be absolved, is the proliferation of the faith not the mechanism for the abolishment you believe in?
>>537071824Stop whinging at me.
>>537071575>Mocking a book of lies as a book of lies is using it wrong
>>537071851What's your actual question? I answered the first one, which you didn't fully grasp before responding, and this post has 4 question marks and not a ton of substance. I think you're pondering why Jesus death had to be the mechanism, and while there's plenty of parallel and symbolism, no one really knows why. We don't know why God wanted specific meat in Leviticus, because he made the meat and regularly reiterates that it's not the substance of sacrifice He cares about, but the spirit. In the same way, we don't know what cosmic abacus could only be balanced by the death of a perfect man, and why that man also had to be fully God for it to count. We do (as Christians) accept that it was necessary for salvation, regardless of the calypso mechanism you're alluding to.
>>537072324But likeDo you think Jesus was a real person?
dumb christcucks are the ones who allowed jews into power with their retarded evangelical pansy ass faggotry. oh and fuck sandniggers too.
>>537072385>>537067849Dawg read the thread
>>537058845Good morning saar
There is literally no way whatsoever to unbiasedly verify the actual historicity of anything that happens in the Bible. Ergo anything in it is subject to scrutiny and skepticism and should be considered apocryphal.
>>537072887Are you a flat earther, by chance?
>>537072324No i'm asking you specifically was the abolishment of sin not God inducting suffering on himself as the mechanism to propagate the faith.The point is the reason for suffering being to induce strength. The real question is still this >>537070799The other questions are intended to formulate you through my thinking process.
>>537072557I know the talking points but if you read any rebuttals to that Ehrmans work falls apart so fast…. And all the forgeries attached to the “proof”.I get when you put it together on a legacy platform it may sound convincing to a casual passerby but if you drill downInto the claims they fall apart so fast or at least are not addressing the points refuting it. And Bart bring titled as an “atheist” is a little disingenuous if you look at his education. Idk like calling yourself an atheist at 50 is a little nuts. Just extra-biblical sources are suuuuuper sketchy
>>537069731>dey was da Kkazars!>White people is da real jews n shiieeeeeeeetReminder that Christian Identity was created by The Rothschilds.
Good thing SOL can't be edited or censored on wikipedia at will by ^you know who^. Real divinity also doesn't look or sound or speak or think like a human being, regardless of our miraculous nature.Praise SOL. Come say hi in the SOLday thread, but only if you're not a failure worshipping LGBt cultist.
>>537060955>You want us to live under Jewish rule.Judaism has as much in common with ancient Israelites as Mormonism does with Christianity. Christians traditionally despised Jews and suffered their presence only because they could do the slimy work that honest Christians couldn't do.
>>537073037The mechanism to propagate the faith, as the faith claims, is the undeniable truth of the faith. There's nothing scriptural that suggests to me that suffering is a way to spread knowledge of God. Consider that, from God and the Christian's perspective, this way, this plan, and the resolution are already known and established. You have a lot of ideas like strength and suffering conflated with both secular and religious meaning. The mechanisms are largely irrelevant to the perspective of certainty, and we would affirm that God is in the business of efficacy and would not work against his own effort to tell others about him.
>>537073097Your reddit tier dialogue is really taxing. You need to lurk moar newfren
>>537073278I appreciate this stance
>>537058845>>537058882>>537058910>>537059201>>537059420>>537059467>>537060315>>537060683You will never be Black
>>537071562>You worship Jesus Christ? Gross! You should worship Zeus!>What's that, Mary? Saint Sebastian? Saint Augustine? Ugh! Those silly Christians not even sticking to their monotheism. That's so lame. They should worship Venus and Mars instead, that's TRAD.The Roman Empire never left and it's called the Catholic Church.
>>537073097Do woman have a Cervix?
>>537073387I don’t really understand the Reddit thing I’ve heard jay dyer use it before but he doesn’t address the point being made so I assume it’s being dismissive. I just don’t get the sidestep
Yes https://youtu.be/S7WR7W31biA?is=vl1h9V93lNDIVzTE
>>537073574Based
>>537073314>the undeniable truth of the faith.Did you have that before the resurrection tho? Because it seems like most people didnt believe Jesus until the resurrection.
>>537058845It's been a full 60 minutes since you masturbated to pakis gangbanging british middle schoolers.
>>537065753Bro haven't figured out that Christianity gave birth to the nihilism
>>537073477I don’t think it’s about what to worship I think it’s more about having to worship a Jewish messiah. Like Zeus is as real as Jesus but at least the fairytale or made up character of Zeus or Odin is white right
>>537073535It used to be that you'd lurk to learn these things. Sorry, I won't be your teacher on this.
>>537058845WHITE CHRISTIANS AND WHITE MUSLIMS ARE BOTH RACE TRAITORS !!!!! SAND NIGGER RELIGIONS ARE POISON TO THE WHITE RACE !!!
>>537060609We tell you all the time, you just don't listen. And stop using Goebbels in your christkike propaganda
>>537073758It’s okay sorry I’ve just only seen it used when someone can’t address a certain point made or needs some wiggle room out of something kind of irrefutable
>>537073611Wha... What? No, people didn't believe in Jesus before he was born. They knew a messiah of David was on the way, but they weren't calling him by name from the time of Isaiah. The truth of the word is held that Jesus is the Word, and before Abraham, He was. That statement was heretical when made by Jesus, but we'd hold that adherence to the word of the Lord before being given form in Jesus would satisfy having a portion of the Lord's inheritance following the sleep with the fathers.
>>537065296Why don't you get yourself martyred right now if you hate this life so much? Sentinel island is right there
>>537073890neither of them actually believe in odin
>>537073937I think you see that because you don't read the thread, and expect someone to rehash arguments they already made. Or, your response is all claims and no source, so there's nothing worth responding to. Those are just my thoughts from interacting with you here. You also write in a way that makes it clear you don't belong here.
>>537061605Did God make the first covenant with foreskins, yes or no?
>>537073890there's not a single moral value in your wall of textit's all "me, me, me, me"satanismjust like nietzsche the masturbatorevery single ideology outside of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ is an absolute waste of time, every single one is identical"do whatever you want, kill everyone, you you you you you you you you"garbage
>>537059182Christianity is a cultural juggernaut and I would argue it's been used for good (using old examples - slavery in the white world ending with the Fall of Rome) and evil (the Catholic inquisition murdered every village herbalist in Western Europe).As a cultural mainstay it promotes a lot of good in its host society. In the USA the normal religious people tend to be the happiest, the fruit is of Christianity is good, enjoy it.But this cultural mainstay is Christianity for the common masses. When I pour over the text's details and meaning I start drawing wildly different beliefs (THE SEA). When I look at the moral absolutism God Himself demands, literally nobody I see matches up to it - even though it seems totally attainable.>ALL LIARS AND THOSE WHO LOVE LYINGThen meanwhile Miss Baptist says "everyone lies" like she misses the point on a conceptual level. Academics go so far as to say innate Truth doesn't or cannot exist. It hasn't even crossed the minds of ministers that there's some pervasive problem if NOBODY is working wonders.
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>>537074025>you hate life if you are looking forward to eternal liferetard. I hate death.
>>537074004>That statement was heretical when made by JesusSo the Undeniable nature you claim comes from the suffering of the cross and the resurrection.That is what I am saying. The fact that the apostles were willing to be put to death before denouncing their faith is what makes people really believe even thousands of years later that it happened.Without the resurrection where is the undeniabily? It seems to hinge on that being fact.
>>537058882FpbpYou’re not going to change Christians’ minds with the incessant spam. Instead of being divisive and toxic assholes you could find common ground, but you’re probably an unironic jew yourself OP. You pretend to dislike jews as a tool to attack Christians, and you’ll even agree with jews and side with them over Christians
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>>537073692>Like Zeus is as real as Jesus but at least the fairytale or made up character of Zeus or Odin is white rightYou've got me there, both Zeus and Odin (Tyr, really) have their origins in Deus Pitar. It's all the same Aryanic proto-mythology. There must always be a Friend of Humanity and whatnot. The big thing really is to ask if that's a god you want to "bring back." Hellenism has been dead for a long, long time. The tradition's not there anymore, we'd just be LARPing. Christianity has been so thoroughly BLEACHED that it's synonymous with Europe - Catholicism at least. It's like... Consider the Persians. The Abbasids came and forced their gay desert death cult on them in the 7th century. Once the Abbasids started to wane in the 9th century, the Persians rose up and reclaimed their cultural heritage - but retained Islam. Why? Because the culture is more important than the religion. The edicts of Zoroaster were, ultimately, just another made-up religion. Yet by keeping Islam, they could exert their influence across the entire Near East, and thus the Persian Empire was reborn again. The Roman Empire never died, it's the Catholic Church. Same language, same structure, same capital.I don't know where I'm going with this, I think I'm saying I think retaining culture is more important than retaining religion.
>>537059182>everyone attacks Jesus and ChristiansThis is blatantly false. Tons of celebrities are openly Christian and nobody cares. The vast majority of pro athletes are Christian and they all thank Jesus all the time during interviews and shit and nobody cares. In most places in the US (besides a few places like Portland, etc.) your life is much easier if you are openly Christian and attend a church. You are given free friends, a free wife to pair up with, a free community, free business connections, etc. And you sacrifice NOTHING in return. I'm so fucking tired of hearing about how Christians are somehow under attack in America. This rhetoric from Christians is literally no different than "the jew cries out in pain as he strikes you"
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>>537074123Fair. It’s just almost impossible to find white European Christians irl so a friend told me to check this place out, it’s just not looking good
I'll copy this over from /sci/ since there was a DMT entity thread over there and I'm all mixed up in that tooThere are two other planets, lost to time. In Norse lore there was Asgard, Midgard, and Niflheim. In Ancient Greece they believed in heaven, where the gods lived, the earth, where gods and humans lived together, and the underworld, where only humans existed. I see no gods around me. Creation was split into three, and three rulers inherited each domain. One king for the Sky, one king for the Sea, and one king for the Land. Hades inherited the Land, the richest kingdom, and it turned into a reputation for the Underworld.But you see there's also THE BIBLE. The Bible tells that God created the Sky, and then the Sea, and then the Land, to part the Sea from the Sky. I think Cthulhu is from this other planet, I think he shows up in the Bible as the Beast out of the Sea that rules with one foot in the Sea and one foot on Land. Everyone swore by all the Land and all the Sea and all the Sky. I can see how it all fits together. The Sky is literally where this creator God dwells among humans. The doomsday forecasters in Revelation were off by miles. Even Revelation said that rule would be passed to Hades.>I hold the key to Hades (here personified as Death)
Also we don’t worship jews we worship God. Jews reject Christ. This is basic theology, you should know this
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>>537069215Spoiler alert: only kike subversive would ever utter a word "Edomite".
>>537074515But your god was killed by Jews? So are they god killers or like was he really a god? It makes no sense
>>537074319Naw, plenty of believes have people martyr themselves. What happened to Aaron Bushnell's movement? Pagans also died for their beliefs, yet they're almost non-existent today. I'm not making a claim on his nature, Jesus made claims on his nature through the Bible. His speech was heretical to those that twisted serving God into serving themselves, i.e. the same people who put him to death. Several people in this thread have denied the resurrection, but none here could deny that Jesus is Lord if they had a full understanding of his Word. I think that the spirit inspired revaluation of truth is more central to undeniability than the resurrection.
>>537074390>I don't know where I'm going with this,To me it reads like>It's easier to persist with a lie that everyone already accepted than to recourse to a truth they don't want to hear. and some version of>Great lies are okay if they have good outcomes such as geopolitical dominance.I don't care who Christianity would give me dominance over, it's wrong about the world and how to live in it.
>>537071140Are you sure about that?
>>537074535John 14:6King James Version6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.be careful about what you are preaching. there's no mention of catholic church anywhere in that statement.
>>537074043Belief is not required in paganism. It's orthopraxy that counts
>537074496>man was made out of EarthPastors would tell you that this means God literally worked like a clay maker and fired people in a brick oven and then reanimated the clay sculpture like it was a golem.In my interpretation I would instead read it as a guarantee that humans are native to this planet. An enlightened interpretation is basically there but I need the full might of>lots of books and internet searching>the anonymous internet messageboard to disseminate my beliefs>the full force of my freedoms of speech and practice of religion
>>537074641What would you say is the most convincing aspect then?I'm asking because im still figuring things out myself and want to hear perspectives.
>>537074460What crazy delusions you have. If only so many people were Christian. Church isn't there to give you free things, by the way. You shouldn't accuse people of being jewish while so flagrantly spouting nonsense.
>>537074168And Christianity is just: jew, jew, jew
>>537074515Jews have done a very good job at keeping people extremely ignorant on what Judaism *actually* is. Most people know more about Islam's pillars than what's actually in the Talmud.>>537074649>I don't care who Christianity would give me dominance over, it's wrong about the world and how to live in it.This has always been the way of the world, anon. Always. Syncretism was extremely popular during the height of "white" gods. The Ptolemaic dynasty called themselves Pharaoh with all the religiosity that entails (and made a god out of it, Serapis.) Romans would habitually claim somebody was "actually worshiping Mercury" when it was really, say, Freyr. Mystery cults to the likes of Isis and Mithras (Egyptian and Zoroastrian, respectively) were immensely popular.
>>537074634It does make sense, He’s God Incarnate, He rose from the grave. God entered in human form and became a “player in the game” to live as humans do. And they killed Him but He resurrected from the grave. The shroud of Turin is real.
>>537074315It's literally the only thing you're excited for
>>537073426May you walk warmly anon! Praise SOL. Boths sides of the current polarized dichotomy are wrong, even if one is a lot gayer than the other. Personification of actual divinity is the flaw of traditional religion, even if it is naturally understandable.
>>537074535That's the claim, where's the proof, wop?
>>537074928why yes I am looking forward to not being ruled over by satanic pedophiles.whats wrong with you?
>>537074888Adding onto this, apologies, but even "classic white mythology" like the Gorgons or Minotaur were, very likely, preserved myths of pre-Greek gods and goddesses framed as demons or monsters. Religion evolves to suit the culture and people, not the other way around.
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>>537075049And you'd rather believe in some post mortem jewish utopia instead of ridding the world of the satanic pedophiles. That's why the christgolemry was invented, to pacify the slaves and curb their impotent rage.
>>537074798Oh, that's a really good question. It's not a hard answer, but it's not talked about much. Outside heretical sects and nonsense, the mainline Christian belief would be that there isn't anything we do to cause salvation. We edify, instruct and build up, but none of that leads to salvation. I hold to sola fide, in that faith is all that's needed for a person to be saved. That faith within them will not be a product of external human works, but entirely the internal work of the Spirit. People are attracted to (or repulsed by) the Spirit, and that's what we believe has encouraged 30% of the world today to trust Jesus.
>>537074876>jew, jew, jewJohn 18:36King James Version36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.John 14:6New International Version6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.Repent.
>>537075096>the GorgonGet enough power flowing to make your hair whip around basically any mortal man will freeze and shit himself in fear.The Minotaur is an odd myth and I would actually make a guess as to its origins. The Man with the Bull head/aspects eating people in a labyrinth was thought of as a myth from Crete but it likely came to Greece from Egypt through Crete.I think the Minotaur was a corrupted retelling of the Aegyptian Pharaohs who were interred with slaves in their elaborate tombs under temples or pyramids. You can even see it with the likes of Anubis. The "Bull Head" may have been Hathor but the most likely site of the origin of the legend is an island sort of temple a little further down South into the Nile. I could pour over this text.
>>537074966My God made your god, or so I believe. Many like it, as well. What I appreciate is the emphatic assertion that you will trust nothing but empirical data. If you can't see it, it ain't real. I do wonder how an empiricist eats canned soup?
>>537075542That's kind of the way of it, isn't it? You have three vectors for basically all ancient mythology; Egypt, Mesopotamia, or the Aryans. Everything else got subsumed or discarded. It's why, "that's an Ishtar" is such a meme.
>>537075263>jewish utopia instead of ridding the world of the satanic pedophilesso what have you done so far to rid the world of the elites, tough guy?
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>>537076000I spread awareness of Jewish supremacy and how saulstians protect and enable them
>>537075795Mespotamian lore was likely passed from some earlier migratory people known as the Amorites that probably kept fucking and settling down places. Whatever people stop being nomadic, they began to distance themselves culturally and look down upon the Nomadic Amorites - both Sumerians and Hebrews.>the AryansWhich ones? Whoever liked Sanskrit? Sanskrit/Hindu lore is so expansive in how many volumes there are it's comical.>Everything else got subsumed or discardedIceland held out a long time and managed to preserve a decent version of Nordic mythology intact. But the legends of say, the great Flood were so early on that almost every culture (pre-Christian contact) had a recognizable Flood myth, except Africa. People that reconstruct myth think up some ancient dragon which had an amalgamation of animal qualities, including some snake aspect, that caused this great Flood myth. People think this myth originated in Africa (because it's about as old as mankind) but it's clearly evident through Enuma Elish, the Chinese legends of dragons being the source of all their rivers, and even in North American native Americans that told of the "water lynx" that caused a great Flood that a wise man survived by finding a piece of Earth.These myths are so old that I would point my finger at the great meltwater pulse events that actually raised the sea level sixty feet (civilizations have always been along the coast). The myths get picked up and retold every time there's a great flood so that's not a great surprise when it shows up in other places. I'm in the mood to think about other interpretations of the Flood story.
>>537058845jews are gog. they are not the israelites in the bible.