The Catholic church should reverse Vatican II and focus on hypertargeting young zoomers.If you've never heard the Tridentine Mass before you have no idea how much it mogs the fuck out of the dumbed down Mass for browns that's currently held in most places.
What did Vatican II actually do to cause such controversy? I know they've been taking a more reconciliatory stance with the eastern churches, is that one of those bad things for you?
>>537060963If they reverse Vatican II it means they have to admit they were wrong, which they are bound not to do. It's a pickle they put themselves in.
>>537061122They dogmatized a specific interpretation of Romans 11, for one.
I'll be honest with you.Church is boring and humiliating.I don't want to fucking kneel to some shit eating arab camelfucker and listen to the ever cryptic jewish star wars with a million meanings that can be twisted around by every kike and his mother. Fuck off!But if the Roman or Greek Gods would make a comeback, I would be the first to sacrifice a lamb to them.I want something proper and I don't give a single fuck about the gay jewish revisioned shit. I want the Euroean pantheon of Gods back!
>>537060963The Catholic church should commit Jonestown.
>>537061435You sound jewish.
>>537061493Don't be retarded. What have we not created under the reign of Rome?Then, as soon as the kikes took over with their christian shit, we lost 2/3rds of our territory to mudslimes.
>>537060963The Church is sputtering on an aging ever shrinking workforce of old nunsHow in the fucking hell is it going to recruit zoomettes at replacement level?
>>537061122They're transforming churchs and cathedrals for Satan worship.The infiltration of free masons is a big problem.
>>537061781It was always open to corruption. Don't buy into demons and shit. That's part of their retarded religion. It's a retarded group of (((people))) who want to conquer and destroy all. They are morally corrupt.The only important things are: Who are they and where.Look how everybody gets sidetracked by all this jesus shit.
>>537062027No it wasn't. The Catholic church instantly rejected free masonery. It's since the eucumenism with jews, protestants ect... that everything went to shit. A lot of elders left the church for this reason, this is was a disaster.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHbmPOwqgL8
>>537062268That's not what I meant. It is built on a weak foundation, because the scripture is filled with vague metaphors and symbolism.>turn the other cheek>the two swords of christAbrahamic scriptures are the champions of vagueposting.
>>537062027Demons do exist. Theyre called ideas.
>>537062484The scripture is very clear, the problem appear when the clergy don't follow the scripture.
>>537060963You, a tradcath ANB: bro...
>>537061435Those european gods were mogged by Jesus tho
>>537060963Black Americans are all Protestant it's fucking over.
>>537062268I have noticed that in the past 20 or years or so rome has been intentionally ambiguous about their official stance on hot button topics (ones that could result in loss of laity). therefore they will have one bishop say one thing, one bishop say another, therefore creating "probable opinions" that believers can pick or choose what the stance of the church is to match their own preferences
>>537061588The only way to achieve any sort of military victory against the migrants is by controlling the armies and High tech weaponry and those things are controlled by free-masonic luciferians who worship one of the many angels created by the christian GodThat means that you simply dont stand a chance, the cold hard truth is that you are a sore loser
>>537062575You're drifting off into lala land.What am I supposed to answer to this? Ideas are things that you can come up with, if you think about things, often in connection with events or experiences.Some people are fucked in the head and come up with evil shit. They're either evil themselves, have mental problems or operate on a low level, which makes them like animals. And animals are flesh automatons with some exceptions.
Zoomers are the most pathetic generation produced in the modern age.While previous generations all sought adventure, rebellion and sex, zoomers get obsessed with going to church.
>>537062484hypocrite. you are vague posting yourself. There are no "two swords of Christ" not to mention that you don't even cite the chapters and verses of the passages
>>537062634It isn't. That is the problem. Everything reads like a fairytale.>>537062673>>537062837Lmao, I don't debate enemies. Kys
>>537062268I dont get why people like you dont understand that you are actually struggling against GodGod didnt mention any sort of victory made by the believers but a total victory of Satan that will trigger the Second Coming, you are not going to win anything like ever and religion will keep dying, its literally over and nothing will change that because the masses are too much into flesh stuff (sex, drugs, sin) you should just relax
>>537060963it can be done, but only in poor/uneducated places like africa and maybe some areas of latin-america. the rest of underdeveloped areas are already infested with muslims, hindus and commies. theres nothing vatican can do to atract any kind of meaningfull number of first world zoomies.
>>537062979>There are no "two swords of Christ">See, Lord, here are two swords," Jesus replied, "It is enough" (Luke 22:38)Retard. I'm done with this garbage. Continue to gobble up kike shit.
>>537063059>I dont debateIts not like you have a single counter-argument at allYou are a loser and your only option is to to get pounded, dicked down by an old free-masonic dude, thats your best option, not loser Zeus or loser Thor, the old dick of some luciferianAnd to be honest with you, thats going to happen anyway because any sort of pagan reawakening will be controlled by agents of the luciferian cult, maybe the losers at the bottom, like you, will be legit but the ones at the top already know what they are actually into
>>537062484>AbrahamicGood morning Saar>>537062713>doesn't know about nation of Islam>doesnt's know about black Hebrew Israelites. >doesn't know most niggers worship money, weed, and huge asses.It's like you're not even American
>>537063230>35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.>36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.>37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.>38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough. nowhere does it state that Jesus Christ takes possession of the swords. the pair are never mentioned again. He was alluding to his capture that very night which was prophesied a thousand years before by david
>>537063221>theres nothing vatican can do to atract any kind of meaningfull number of first world zoomies.This percent of the population is worthless anyway and were already broken by atheistic leftists, they simply wont stand a chance against jihadis and violent niggersTheir lack of faith will get them all destroyed
>>537062713Black americans are the least likely to turn the other cheek or be peaceful, to the contrary they are violent and filled with pride>bbbbut muh heckin zeus
>>537063341Stop talking to me, you dumb nigger. You're like all the other gypsie whores who keep talking to me when I tell them that they don't get money from me.>>537063500Man, you're just fucking with me now, right? You're posting that and you don't see my point of it being weak scripture that can be used to push any kind of mental gymnastics onto the goyim?The bible is full of vague text, as is the torah talmud and quran or however the fuck you write the mudslime one.It is subversive.
>>537060963>Should reverseImplying the Pope in that moment was wrong. You catholifags are stupid af. You dont even know what being a catholicuck means.
>>537063897That but with all the kike and muslim shit, too.
>>537063844>quranWhat kind of vague methapores are in the quran? Im sure you dont know shit. Considering you are comparing it with catholics and talmud. Those are very different. Gypsy
>>537063844>Stop reminding me that Im a fucking loserNo I wont, you are a sore loser seething at Jesus for no reason at allDid pagan gods helped losers like you at any point in history?No, loser, they didnt, they were either so deceptive or weak that even a cult that preaches turning the other cheek defeat them all, you are a fucking loser
>>537063534this kind of mumbojumbo is what pushes the younger generations from catolic faith. it's hard to take you guys seriously after meaningless words like "faith". same goes for "sin", "payer" "god" and other absurd nonsense.
>>537064092*Bible and talmud
>>537064092Comparing the quran and talmud makes sense.
>>537064092Kek, a mudslime.mohammed got ridden by 20 niggers all night long. Just google al zutt if you want to give up the fag religion.Everything in your religion is based on complete lies, fiction, deception and stealing shit from kikes or previous religions. You poor bastards still think that you have the 'original' and unchanged book, when in reality there were multiple versions and one of your sultans ordered for the others to be burned.
>>537061122This is all you need to know
>>537064247Yes. Jews tregiverse their scriptures to implies they are the choose people, EVEN if the dessobey the God law.Quran says that if people dessobey the law revealed by God, then God abbandon and reemplace them with other people who are fair and respectful to the law. There are not such kind of "eternal choosen people"And christianity... You are saved by faith just as the jew paul said kek
>>537064124Lel, don't sperg out at me, retard. Your kike religion lost 2/3rds of the 'holy' Roman empire's territory in less than a century to mudslimes. Then, instead of pushing the shitskins back piece by piece, they got sent straight into the heart of their lands, setting up the greatest European warriors for defeat.Nah, you can keep your kiked shit. Drink the blood, eat his body, but stay away from me, you dumb golem nigger. (Totally not vague by the way)
>>537064326Yes, it seems you dont know shit. I suppose you are catholic, who are known to dont know anything about their "religion". There are not multiple versions of quran, because the quran means recitation, a lot of people memorize it since the profet age, so it impossible to someone to change the book.You are a gypsy retarded
>>537060963>should reverse Vatican IIYet they will never do so.Never has the Catholic church repented of any organizational sin. It was conceived in the sin of dividing the church in 1054 when others would not worship the Roman pope as God.Now what?
>>537064650And like this christcuck says>>537064124Even a religion based on giving the other cheek won against paganism.
>>537064997And it will win against Islam.
>>537061122Transformed Catholicism into a heretical branch of Judaism. I'd give more details if I weren't so lazy. But it basically nullified itself.
>>537061122allowed gays into the ministry for one (then shockingly, decades later there was a pedophilia scandal)
"Catholics" that accept Vatican II are without a doubt the most dishonest and retarded people I have ever talked to in my life.
>>537061122Vatican II is a completely different religion.>know they've been taking a more reconciliatory stance with the eastern churches, is that one of those bad things for you?They take this stance toward everything except for traditional Catholics.
>>537065067The bible was corrupted. Even you that are "muh only scripture" talk shit when you have to compare Jesus (God for you) of the Old an New testament kek.And if you want to play the race card... remember, most crhistians are in africa and south america.
>>537064872Lol, hilarious.Before 1924 there were hundreds of versions >>537064997Kek. Mudslimes lost so hard to the kike religion, that they don't even remember their original Gods.Did you look up al zutt?Or that part written by his child wife, where she had to wash cum stains out of his clothes?
>>537065435>The bible was corrupted.So, of course, the Koran is sacrosanct?Islam is illogical.If Jesus is a prophet of Allah, He is a liar.If He is a liar, He is a false prophet.If He is a false prophet, Muhammad lied in naming Him a true one.If Muhammad is a liar, he is not a prophet of God, but is a prophet of Satan.If Jesus is telling the Truth, Muhammad’s claim that Jesus is not God is a lie.If Jesus is God, Allah is not.Jesus received worship from men and women.Jesus taught that God is one God in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.Muhammad denies that this is Allah.Muhammad and Jesus are not prophets of the same God.Islam is a lie.
>>537065559>Islam is a lieAnd gay. Like really gay.
>>537061122Nostra aetate. It says that jews dont nees Jesus to save themselves. So basically destroys the whole christian doctrine.Why do we need jesus if some people can be saved without him?
>>537065435>compare Jesus (God for you) of the Old an New testamentCompared.Next?
>>537061435You people are nothing but a nuisance group eternally ankle biting the right. I cannot wait for the day we can shut you up forever
>>537061588Of course this subversive little jeet will have the most posts in the thread
>>537061536Find a woman that looks at you the way a Vatican II cultist looks at his favorite rabbi.
V2 was done by a recent CONvert Jew.He went back to officially Jew right afterwards.He basically said it was to hurt Goyium.Check it out.
>>537065635Also...Jesus=God=Holy Spirit.
>>537065559Lmao the sura al baqarah (the most extense of quran) is basically based about critizising christians and jews for change their revelations and to lie about what Jesus and the other prophets of that region says.
>>537062652You're a very obvious kike
>>537063221You're a very obvious kike
>Worship our kike on the stick and try to find out the real doctrine inbetween the schizo ramblings of the bible OR YOU ARE GOING TO BURN FOREVER!!!!!Who wants to follow this triple minded god?
>>537065827Imam Ibn al-Qayyim:“O Christ-worshippers! We want an answer to our question [from your wise ones],If the Lord was murdered by some people's act, what kind of god is this?We wonder! Was He pleased by what they did to Him?If yes, blessed be they, they achieved His pleasure,But if He was discontented, this means their power had subjugated Him!Was the whole entity left without a Sustainer, so who answered the prayers?Were the heavens vacated, when He laid under the ground somewhere?Were all the worlds left without a God, to manage while His hands were nailed?Why did not the angels help Him, when they heard him while he wailed?How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord when He was fastened,How could the irons reached Him and [had] His body pinned?How could His enemies' hands reach Him and slap His rear,And was Christ revived by himself, or was the Reviver another god?What a sight it was, a grave that enclosed a god,Stranger still is the belly that confined Him!He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness, fed by blood!Then he got out of the womb as a small baby,Weak and gasping to be breast-fed!He ate and drank, and did what that naturally resulted,Is this [what you call] a god?High Exalted be Allah above the lies of Christians,All of them will be held accountable for their libels!O Cross-worshippers! For what reason is this exaltedand blame [is cast upon those] who reject it?Is it not logical to break and burn it, along with the one who innovated it?Since the Lord was crucified on it, and his hands were fastened to it?That is really a cursed cross to carry,So discard it, do not kiss it!The Lord was abused on it, and you adore it?So [it is clear that] you are one of His enemies!If you extol it because it carried the Lord of the Worlds,Why don't you prostrate yourself and worship graves,Since the grave contained your god in it?So Christ-worshippers, open your eyes,This is what the matter is all about.”
>>537065559>Jesus taught that God is one God in three persons, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.Give 1 (one) verse. No gish gallop, pick your best
>>537065635Why did Jesus in Old testament gave a law to people but in the new testament is written that only faith will save us?But Jesus, sorry, God, says that he doesnt come to broke the law. And he even said in your book that he only came to the israel people.Seems that you are protestant, so you are "only scripture".
>>537066054As I see it, these are the questions:1. What kind of God would allow Himself to be murdered by His servants?2. Was all creation left without a God?3. How did the angels not intervene?4. How could creation itself even act against God?5. Who resurrected the dead God?6. How and why would God be born and live as a man?7. What good is the cross; how is it not reviled?8. Why do you expect good things to come from worshiping the dead?These are the answers:1. God went to the cross willingly as the only solution to man’s sin. All of the horrors that have occurred in creation are the result of our forefather Adam choosing to disobey the will of God. We cannot place our will above His. Adam earned death. Death is more than a mere lack of physical life, it is a separation from the God who loves you. All who sin earn death as our just punishment. God sacrificed Himself to pay the price for our crime. He offers us a pardon paid in His own blood. Pardons must be accepted. Rejection of the pardon is to bear the cost yourself.2. Here is where the understanding of God’s nature is crucial. God is eternal. He IS! There was no time when He did not, or will not, exist. He CREATED spacetime. Creation is not God. Time and matter serve His will. His will is the salvation of mankind.3. They were obeying God and allowing Him to sacrifice Himself for man’s sin.4. All creation eagerly awaits the removal of the curse that man laid upon it. God has chosen the best possible way to deal with sin. We suffer as He suffered as we wait for Him to save as many as are willing and put an end to sin. He is dealing with it in a way which is unquestionably just. Only those who love iniquity will question it. They will never repent. They will remain enemies of God for eternity. They will curse Him and all His ways even as they burn.
Entire thread hijacked by jeets, muslims, and kikes. I hate this board
>>537060963>hypertargeting young zoomerssatan always preys on the young.
>>5370661855. The understanding of the trinity is essential to understand the resurrection. God, Elohim – the plural God, resurrected Himself. Hebrew grammar can denote singular, dual, and plural (meaning three or more). Elohim is plural, meaning that the God described in the Torah is not singular, nor dual, but triple. Three Gods in one, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Allah, the false singular god, is not the God of the Torah.6. Sin entered the world by man. The price of sin had to be paid by man. God lowered Himself to our level to do that which we could not. We are broken sinful creatures. There are none good among us. A perfect solution was required that only He could provide. To do less, and merely wink at sin whenever He chooses, as Allah, would have made Him an unjust God.7. The cross is not the place of God’s ultimate defeat. It is the place of His ultimate victory! Sin is defeated! Death is defeated! We are ensured our eternal life WITH God, adopted as sons and daughters!8. Why do we celebrate our God’s death? We don’t, though it would be easy to see it that way. Modern Christianity has downplayed the resurrection, even while still believing it. The focus is on the death to pay for sin. That is unfortunate because we know He is risen from the grave and waits for the day we join Him in heaven. It is necessary that we continue to wait as His invitation is extended to all until the appointed time our our redemption. Will you accept His invitation?https://ttb.org/global-reach has a bible study in your language.
>>537061781youre problem for allowing the jesuit apostates.
>>537060963Zoomers still realize it’s a slave religion and you’re worshiping a Jewish messiah
>>537066054Ancient pagans had the same problem with christisnism
>>537066208Remember. YOU WORKSHIP A JEW.
>>537062484>Abrahamic scriptures are the champions of vagueposting.no, you simply take verses out of context.
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>>537063500its not about the swords. its about two groups of believers.the have nots, without purse, script and shoes who do everything in faith and thus are supplied by the Lord.the other group is the have alls, who have the money, the script and even swords, meaning military power who do not operate on faith.the first are the true disciples, the other are the organized church empires that claim to do the will of God.the wheat and the tares.true christians vs fake christians.>And he said unto them, It is enough.he basically said, "you dont get what Im saying" when they presented the two swords to him.
>>537060963>religion>"mogs"Just kill yourself already you sad sack of shit.
>>537066114>Give 1 (one) verse. No gish gallop, pick your bestI gave several.Apparently robutts still aren't allowed to look at memes.>>537066123Why did Jesus in Old testament gave a law to people but in the new testament is written that only faith will save us?Jesus gave the Law and fulfilled it at the Cross.The New Testament is not the replacement of the Old, but the fulfillment of it and a the beginning of a new relationship with God.Remember that the fruit of faith is righteous works, obedience to the will of God. Obedience does not produce salvation. It is a product of faith alone. Faith comes before obedience. The flesh is incapable of obeying God, hence the need for Him to save us.Faith comes after you have heard the Word, >[Rom 10:17 KJV] 17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.and the Holy Spirit GIVES you faith, but you must ACCEPT the gift. It is free, but it can be refused.After acceptance, it will grow.>[Rom 5:1-5 KJV] 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: 2 By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 3 And not only [so], but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope: 5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.The Holy Spirit will work in you to make you the man God desires you to be. Some people are all at once, others like myself more gradual.He is calling out a people, not just to be His people, but to be His family, adopted and in RELATIONSHIP with Him for all eternity.Islam is a false gospel delivered by an angel, just as Paul warned us.>[Gal 1:8 KJV] 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
>>537067037The Old Testament is the foundation of, and necessary for the proper understanding of, the New Testament.The book of Revelation is the culmination of the entire Bible, but is unknowable without the Old Testament in particular.Pic related.
>>537067037So if i wish to win a race i will win it? Even if i dont train a shit?
>>537067463No.If you wish to ENTER the race, you must have the permission of the one in charge of the race.If you wish to win reward in the race, then you must work toward that end.You are not in the race.You are merely a spectator.I am the one running to win the prize.
>>537067695>You are not in the race.>You are merely a spectator.So can i be a piece of shit and going to heaven only because i believe in God?
>>537067695satan believes in God? Will he go to heaven?
>>537067963>So can i be a piece of shit and going to heaven only because i believe in God?Well, currently you are a piece of shit NOT going to heaven only because you refuse to believe in God's Son whom He sent to DIE for you.>>537068042No.Satan, like most people, will never repent.Esau, father of those who claim to be Jews but do lie, is the example set forth.He despised his birthright. Though it was his for the taking, he simply did not care. He literally sold it to Jacob for a bowl of porridge. That's it.Then, when their father, Issac, was dying, Jacob (an obvious piece of shit swindler) disguised himself and also got the blessing that Issac had intended for Esau. The blessing, however, is tied to the birthright. When Esau gave that up, in God's eyes, he surrendered it all.Esau cried and was sorry, but sorry that he did not have the blessing, not sorry for screwing it up to begin with. Instead, he focused his anger on Jacob. He blamed another for the loss he caused himself. Jacob was merely the tool with which Esau betrayed himself.You see the race.You wonder what good is it if there is nothing to win.I tell you there is much to win!There are crowns only worn by those who earn them. We will cast them at the Lord's feet as they are nothing compared to eternity in His presence, but He will not keep them. They are ours. Only a few will have them.Many bad people will be in heaven, myself among them.Not all will be given rewards.I invite you to run the race with us.We don't want it to be a spectator sport.We want it to be the starting event of our family reunion.We are in darkness running toward the Light!
>>537068756The five crowns:1) The Imperishable Crown – (1 Corinthians 9:24-25)2) The Crown of Rejoicing – (1 Thessalonians 2:19)3) The Crown of Righteousness – (2 Timothy 4:8)4) The Crown of Glory – (1 Peter 5:4)5) The Crown of Life – (Revelation 2:10)
