Imagine that you're just minding your own business one day and this guy approaches you and says:>God Himself personally said that I and all my future descendants are to rule over everyone living in the area that you're living in.Would this convince you to start serving him?Apparently at some point in history this was a proven strategy of acquiring wealth and power.Personally I think our ancestors must've been pretty gullible.
>>537075518>Warlord wins battle>It is said the Gods give you victory in battle, both Christians and pagans like believe this>God has sanctioned your rule and appointed you king because of your victoryThat's basically all there is to it. There are other instances, like God choosing King David through a prophet(s). Or pagans believing they have a right to rule because their families descend from the gods. Ect.
>>537075806alike*
>>537075518They used violence, the same way they get you to serve jews.
diveez nuts
>>537075518https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1781470558036053.mp4
>>537075518>and this guy approaches you and says:They were knights It's more accurate to say an army began dominating everything and one guy from the elite dev gru navy seals is the guy who rules all. Everything goes through him and everyone accepts it
>>537075518Before it was just administration position, You weren't appointed by god, but you could speak the them. So when Famine, Plague, War afflicted the land it was seen as punishement and that the speaker to the gods was cocking it up some how. So they would kill the king and replace them.Its not until Christianity and its concept of the infailable divine and the hierarchy and the syncreticism then makes the king not just a messenger to god, but an avatar of god and since god is perfect, then moving against the avatar is tantamount to heresy.So as always. Blame the jews.
>>537075518it probably started with some caveman telling his cavewife "i think it's going to rain tomorrow". then it rained. the rest is history.
>>537075518Auto-fellation of the ego.
>Everything goes through him and everyone accepts itAnd no one does this gratuitouslyThey respect him because he is a competent general and politician
>>537075518turns out they just make it all up as they go.
Kings in Europe were actually delegates from the Pope
Some watery tart lobbed a scimitar at him
>>537075518Germans bought some land in 1030 so now they rule England, seems retarded I'd revolt if I were a bong subject.
>>537075518At least for the UK there is the elites idea of "British Israelism" which insists the Anglo-Saxons (frisians/phrygians) are a Lost Tribe of Israel and can trace their lineages back to Jesus and King David.I think every European monarchy would have some similar mythos around this. Geneologists say it's mostly bunk
>>537075518Gullible? You worship jews as your masters, today, with all the information out there for everyone to see.
>>537075518Here's a book about it.https://files.catbox.moe/1ms8re.epubCivilization is built by monarchy. Other forms of government have never built a civilization. What monarchy builds left wing government destroys.
>>537075518It stops Kings being openly muslim.
>>537076289you're still a bong subject. just 12 generations removed.
>>537075518congratulations you've discovered the problem with all forms of faith
>>537076265Help, I'm being oppressed
>>537075518Immoral rulers invented a nonsense justification for their rule, as has happened for all of time to this day. It's purely cynical.
>>537076531So I guess the argument is essentially:>I get to rule because the Son of God is my distant cousin.I don't find that particularly persuasive.
>>537076779>Civilisation is built by monarchy.Monarchy doesn’t imply divine right to rule, and Rome for example wasn’t a monarchy when they built their empire nor was it a hereditary monarchy (in practice) during Imperial era.Ancient Greek city states weren’t monarchies either (most relevant, Athens, was a democracy in its heyday, Sparta was diarchy).
>>537075518One day: many many years ago>Hey, howcome you get to be king?>Me? well...uh...God said I could>God?>yeah and you wouldn't want to question God after all. What, are you saying you know better than god?>...no>Yeah, that's what I thought
>>537076531British Israelism has nothing to do with it
>>537075518Didn't Trump claim divine right to rule after he faked his assassination. Americans can get fucked.
>>537075518Also, in those days they didn't have the printing press, most people couldn't even read, so they literally had to believe the priest and the lords about everything because they couldn't even read the bible. If the tax collector said you owed more than you actually did you just had to believe them because you literally had no way of knowing any better.
Furthermore modern English monarchy isn’t even English - they are German noble family that came to power cause Dutch invaded England and won, and English plutocracy just accepted them as more-or-less figureheads. It’s quite ridiculous.
>>537075518they used to fight other kings and win, and that would convince people that they must be on God's side to survive.
They said in Brazilian history books that during Portuguese America in the 1600s and 1700s they made everyone go to the church and poors did so begrudgingly they would even fuck and do other heckling during the mass.And priests did gloryhole during confession booth if married women confessed thoughts of lust
>>537076981Can't have an Empire without an Emperor, you have to make up some daft name like a superpower.An emperor is the supreme male ruler of an empire, representing one of the highest monarchical ranks, often holding greater authority and status than a king.
>>537075518Somebody built a bunch of stuff in northern France and passed them the ball
>>537075806/threadIt's just guys who won battles to save realms. Charlemagne had divine right because he saved Europe from shitskin invasion. Clovis I had divine right because he managed to unite all of Gaul. Genghis Khan had divine right because he steamrolled the entire world. The scenario is OP is childish and frankly dumb.
>>537077010It was the rule of the strongest, more like>my gang will smash that tooth of yours out if not submit>yes, Saare.Same today, the strongest (defended by police and secret services and street gangs) rule over you and God you hate have nothing to do with it apart you threw the modicum of morals out of the window and now you reap what you sow for centuries (Godless Fabian homosocialism and replacement by primitive savage religions)
>CharlemagneThis guy also killed European natives whom had native customs.
>>537076981Ancient Greece was built by monarchies. Democracy destroyed it. Rome was built by monarchies. Republicanism destroyed it.Every civilization in human history was built by monarchy.No tribal people ever discovered republicanism or democracy and became civilized.
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>>537076871The king of England is a pedophile and the English should have a revolution, can you say the same bongcuck subject?
>>537075806God gave Charles arse cancer as soon as he dared to take the throne.
>>537075518They gained power through military might, the "God" stuff came later.It's like when they retcon something in a TV show to make sense later
Monarchs have the divine right to rule for the same reason fathers have the divine right to their own children.Anything else is sick anti-human leftism.
>>537077485He did, I didn't say he was awesome. He gutted native Europe and saved (((Christendom)))
>>537077289Romans didn’t have a monarchy in classical sense, original “emperors” just stacked various republican titles/offices and held them in perpetuity. Imperator - someone who has imperium, that is the right to command.Only later did Roman emperor become dominus, that is at the time when Rome was declining as a state, which kinda shits on the argument made by this Canadian faggot. Early Mesopotamian states (the ones that invented writing and plethora of other shit) weren’t classic monarchies. Absolutism and the concept of divine right to rule is a very late phenomenon.
>>537075518In Europe, it was with the introduction of Christianity and Romans 13. Prior to that, "king" was just something you were if you had enough support from the various warriors under you, which you usually had to buy through shared loot (the sea wolves well known for this particular structure). And usually no king got that big due to the mechanics. The idea that someone could be divinely appointed by the creator of the universe to get all the bitches and demand 100% loyalty came with the church as it was spread by Rome.Christians are specifically told by Romans 13 to not resist power. Power is a thing of the world and not a true Christian's concern. This made the religion rather popular with powerful people and was probably the main factor in its imposition on the Europeans.
>>537077518>Ancient Greece was built by monarchies.But that’s just false, objectively, much of what we associate with Ancient Greece originated from polities that weren’t monarchies. And none of those claimed divine right to rule in any case. Single guy being in charge, sure, that’s prevalent, but absolutism and divine right to rule aren’t really that common.
To this day, the monarch of England is crowned atop Liafail- the stone that was Jacobs pillow when he dreamed of the ladder in Genesis 28 and when God gave him the land (the world). When Charles was coronated, the put up a tent around him so no one one could see the sacred moment when he was christened with oil. That’s what Christ means -christened or anointed.
>>537077485>>537077600Good. Pagans should assimilate or keep to themselves instead of raiding Christians for a living.>but the Saxo-had broken their peace treaty with the Franks and were endlessly raiding Flemish farmers like the backward savages that they were
>>537077608Human cultures in a vacuum worship priest kings that sit on top of tax temples full of bread/rice whatever.
>>537075518welll... i think you forgot something...have you tried puting your hand on the king, just to see what happens next?classic irrelevant thread....
>>537075518>>537075806Before that you had god-kings
>>537077289sir kindly look up the etymology of "empire".
>>537077645There are many reasons why Christianity spread the way it did but yes, that’s one of reasons why leaders weren’t too opposed to it. All those “based” pagans adopted Christianity cause ultimately it’s better for government and social cohesion, and also it’s philosophically superior as a bonus.
>>537075518It started with the first rulers who were priests AND kings, all in one, many of whom were later deified.Who was the first king? It's impossible to say with historical certainty. But it must have been at an exceedingly early time, look at Gobekli Tepe. Those people didn't just come together and do all that randomly by milling about without purpose or aim, they were organized and must have had a leader of some kind to make executive decisions.
>>537077804They shouldn't have said the "P" word
>>537077518Republicanism made Rome the most prosperous nation in the world you fucking idiot.Fr*nch republicanism is a disaster.
>>537077381>>537077393China and Israel.
>>537077591Yeah nah some inbred devil worshipper isn't my father, my father is my father.
>>537075518>Would this convince you to start serving him?No of course not.It's his band of 50 armed thugs waving spears, axes and swords that convinces you.
>>537077645This is completely wrong BTW. Kings were temporarily elected for the purpose of war. In Roman areas, the chief nobility or Dux in Latin, as we say Dukes, would elect a king or swear to one holding some birthright, in other cases.
They were warlords first, the divine right came later to explain why the grandson of that warlord who's done fuckall was still in charge 75 years later. They don't approach you and say they're in charge because God, you're born the grandson of somebody who was subjugated and were raised to believe they were gods. Grandpa knows better but never objects as he was scared shitless after seeing all his neighbour's skin removed while he was still alive for being loyal to the old king. Basically>If God didn't want me to be in charge, then why am I still in charge? Clearly it's my divine right. Checkmate peasant.
>>537075518>After the kingship descended from heaven, the kingship was in Eridug.https://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section2/tr211.htmEridu was Enki's city.https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eridu+%7C+Sumeria/@30.8167823,45.9922917,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x3fde134178713e85:0x32ffe14b18fb949a!8m2!3d30.8167823!4d45.9948666!16s%2Fg%2F11ddyd2dhy?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDYxMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
Mycelium fungal infection of a certain type has human mammals viewing other human mammals as a superior sort. Probably a type of yeast from eating vagina and ass.
>>537077971First king was probably Nimrod.
>>537075518Well, UK's monarchy isn't legitimate anymore because the king turned himself away from the one true God and is dickriding Islam instead.
>>537078046They are as "divinely appointed" to rule as any of the aforementioned. That is to say-- not at all. This planet is just a bucket of fucking crabs.
>>537077746Democracy appeared in Greece after it was already civilized by monarchies. Democracy weakened and destroyed it.Divine right of kings is just a logical conclusion about nature made by people who believed in God. All civilization is built by monarchies. Abandoning the monarch destroys your civilization. Therefore the monarch has a divine right to rule and people are punished by God for abandoning their monarch.From a naturalistic perspective monarchs are evolved to rule like a chicken is evolved to lay eggs. Groups of people who follow a good leader are more successful than people who don't follow a leader or have a bad leader. The leader gives birth to children with good leadership genetics. That is why our ancestors understood the importance of blood lines.>Percival to King Arthur:>You and the land are one.>Drink from the chalice and you will be reborn and the land with you.
>>537075518MY LIEGE, I SHALL SERVE YOU WITH MY BBC.
>>537077919You'll be wanting me to get a shitposting loisence next.
>>537078214Going by the Bible, quite possibly. But he was more of a great king, a king of other kings or emperor as we'd say. I would wager the 'Art of Kingship' was as old as the fall of angels.
>>537078250But that’s just false you cringe LARPer. Also your God ordained monarch is a weakling pedo owned by Jews who’s reigning over ethnic replacement of English people.
>>537078046When you slaughter your enemy's entire lineage and destroy his followers, nobody questions you when you say you're god.
>>537077988Correlation does not imply causation memeflag. Looting Celtic territories is what made Rome the most prosperous nation in the world. The Roman burdened Hispania with so much taxes the natives had to work the mines for free to the point where entire hills and mountains were defaced from all the intensive digging.
>>537075518It began with the earliest forms of civilizations once they too big for a local council to govern. This was the way they justified their legitimacy and from there... oh well, you know the rest.
>that picDamn. Scottish Rite is indeed really important for the realm.Answering your question there is the Chapter XVII of Thomas book. I will look for that and post here. Please be kind and notice that his solution works forSelf-Evident Truths – more than anything.
>>537077988Rome had to be saved by dictators. The republic destroyed it.The timescale of civilizations is long enough that death isn't immediately perceivable. You enjoy a period of time where the people living in a dead civilization feast off the accumulated fat created by monarchies.America is a dead civilization. Same with most Western countries. Japan is also dead but could be resurrected by restoring the emperor.
>>537078402Parliament is sovereign.
>>537078510Kike lies
>>537077568multiple presidents of the US are confirmed pedophiles and you have not had a revolution. have you?
Here:https://archive.org/download/thematterformean00hobbuoft/thematterformean00hobbuoft.pdfChapter XVII, page 115. The interesting thing is that you can understand "common-wealth" as "state" in all occurrences; makes more sense that way.
>>537077779>When Charles was coronated, the put up a tent around him so no one one could see the sacred moment when he was christened with oil. That’s what Christ means -christened or anointed.We don't know what's in this coronation oil because it's a huge secret. But it's likely to be palma christos, which was used to anoint Christ, along with essential oils of frankincense and myrrh and other herbs mentioned in the Bible for this purpose.All of these ingredients are anti-parasitic. It's a shame he didn't get coronated earlier - maybe he could have avoided cancer?
>>537079001>can you say the same bongcuck subject?A simple "no, I can't I'd go to jail" would suffice bongcuck subject.
>>537079210Here's a really good copy of that book for ebook readers.https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/thomas-hobbes/leviathan
I think people were cleverer in the past than people today are and once you factor in brainwashing addiction i doubt that there is any contest. >kingYou still 100% live under EXACTLY the same power. So it shouldn’t be so mystifying to you.>back in the dayYou’d get protection, they had responsibilities. It worked both ways when it worked. There was no police either you do that for yourself outside of tyrannies. Police are a very recent invention, a political enforcement army strong arming for the corruption which controls both money & law. >reign over youBut it certainly doesn’t work today with the terrible version of it that’s still going on in every country.We don’t need to be reigned over any more, we just need sacrosanct ground rules and managers running services. Those managers need to be policed by us which can be done in the form of an inquisition which makes sure that they don’t try to rule over us. Millionaires are great they are smart people who organise getting stuff done but the WEF type, parasites, they can’t be allowed to exist. Because tech doesn’t advance at a standard rate and if you could see it on a graph it would be a curved line showing acceleration these fucking turds, unpoliced politicians, the money lenders, their mouth-whore brainwasher media/celeb’s all need to go. If things aren’t fixed then the dark forces which motivate power willA) destroy the worldB) shackle and enslave everyone in a way we can never throw off, trapped in hell on earth. These people caused most of the worlds misery and suffering historically. Non of them are necessary. I can invent a system in an afternoon that would be way superior.
Anti monarchism is satanism.Government always rules over people. Any system that claims the people rule over government is satanic inversion.We can see the results of satanic inversion: democratic governments are exterminating their own people.
>>537079457imagine quoting yourself to try and win an argument lmao.fuck the king, fuck the pope, fuck the state of israel.
The House of Orange liberated the Netherlands from Spain and turned it into a republic.When Napoleon conquered the Netherlands and crowned himself King, people thought that worked pretty well. So we decided to remain a monarchy. And with we I meant he elites here.
>>537080771oh...and fuck every single muslim on earth.
>>537075518>Claim to be chosen by God.>Get decapitated by their own peasants.
>>537080771Jews used to get kicked out of countries when they were monarchies.Jews spread democracy for a reason.
>>537081073>decapitate your King>eventually get exterminated by parliamentIgnoring the divine right of kings results in divine punishment. It really is beautiful in a way.
>>537081308That is true, however, im not taking lectures on democracy from a filthy jeet.
>>537081073>peasantsEnglish Cuck War was entirely an aristocratic squabble over power and privileges, you goddamn retard.English peasants had nothing to do with anything.
>>537081517I'm the last white man in Canada. We still have a loyalist statue that the jeets haven't melted down yet.
>>537081695>flagHoly shit, I never thought I'd ever see one of you on here. I guess the war really is over.
>>537080771>imagine quoting yourselfWell if you would've answered properly the first time, I wouldn't of had to ya stupid muzrat jeet.
>>537081924welcome, newfriend.
>>537075518man i love americans trying to piece together european history in their utterly jewed hollywood brains
>>537083682America is the most irreparably fucked country. Not just because of their demographics but because their founding mythos is anti-monarchy.Jews will ride their amerigolems all the way to the dirt.
>>537084115the real sadness is when you see newfags who otherwise have swallowed some painful redpills but then start to get euphoric and refuse to learn anything else. many such cases.
>>537084239If only people could figure out why the left has "no kings" protests.
>>537076005>picbecause one of those three is The Truth
>>537085449how can it be truth if built of a bed of lies?
>>537076005You're an imbecilePharaohs and Caesars were considered the embodiments of their supreme gods and kike kings from the Bible also talked to god and all that
>>537088243sure, but Pharaohs are fucking desert brown people religion.I was talking specifically about western europe and celtic pagans.>RomansQuite famous for exiling their king and for people knowing exactly how augustus became Emperor there was no god involved.
>>537077393>The scenario is OP is childish and frankly dumb.It's still fucking dumb in your scenario too even though that's 100% accurate.>God likes me because I have a big stick and special hat!It's primitive garbage that no one with a functioning brain should get behind.>Genghis Khan had divine right because he steamrolled the entire worldYes and it continues to be an even more stupid 'argument' because Khan believed in completely different religious mythology to the people he was steamrolling in Europe. That means if you're a European who gets steamrolled by Khan you face a dilemma because your King, who used to be considered divinely ordained, just got BTFO by some Mongol with a totally contradictory set of religious ideas. It's all stupid bullshit.
>>537090549>It's all stupid bullshitWelcome to Planet EarthOr, as I like to call it, "NIGGER WORLD"
>>537075518Christcucks as always.
>>537081488The monarch is the head of the Church in the UK and the country has continued to go downhill during that entire time, retard. Tell me more about how Jimmy Saville's best friend should have absolute power though, it'll be amusing.
>>537089276How did Augustus become emperor?
>>537075806>le oversimplified r3ddit response with a gay anime picOP is referring to England and it's because of Christians.
>>537090665Appropriate name for it tbqhwy.Ultimately it's just might makes right with some window dressing added to make it sound highfalutin for the plebs.
>>537090722Parliament is sovereign in the UK.
>>537090787I can tell you how he didn't be come emperor, God didn't come down and hand him his orb and staff.
>>537091413It's like you're trying to be retarded.
>>537092401I don't believe in fairytales.
>>537092554Democracy is a fairy tale. The idea that the people can rule over government is false.Government always rules over people.Monarchy is the only true and good form of government.
>>537077571Simon Abney-Hastings 15th Earl of Loudoun is the real king.
>>537090549put down the fedora buddy
