What does /pol/ think of dry counties? Are they justified? How is your relationship with alcohol? Can committed alcoholics ever go back to controlled drinking?
>>537092903https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvu0BZ-9d9A
Some people can just quit cold turkey.
if i'm awake and not at work i'm drinking. it's the best decision i've ever made
>>537092903This site is so full of teetotaler homos who think drinking wine with dinner is "alcoholic" behaviourNo-alcohol societies seem far more deranged than societies that drink. Everything in moderation but occasional drink is no detriment to your health—and in my opinion positively affects emotional disposition.>inb4 straight edge kikes chime in to call me a jewish shill
>>537093740>>537093653It got pretty bad for me. It didn't take as much as it does for some (I'm a lightweight) but I was getting the shakes while sipping vodka all day just to try to stay sane. I couldn't sleep unless I had at least 200 mL of something strong, and I had to drink more to get back to sleep a few hours later. In conjunction with the problems I was trying to deal with, it was a hellish existence
>>537093740it's unwise to take health suggestions from 4chan. no need to even waste time criticizing it. anyone stupid enough to listen deserves the consequences. same goes for AI trying to tell you how to behave ("get the clotshot!")
>>537092903KEK SOME COUNTIES IN USA ENFORCE SHARIA LAW LMAO PATHETIC
>>537092903banning it for everyone is dumb, but some people should be banned from drinking.
>>537092903My county used to be completely dry but the county seat put it up to a vote and decided to become a wet town. Then a few other towns did. I think it's an retarded relic from the prohibition era.
>>537094116You can drink alcohol they just can't sell it in a dry county.
>>537092903I grew up in what was proudly called the wettest dry county in America. The county sits on the state border, and with about a dozen main highway border crossings located across the county, every single one had liquor and package states immediately across the state line. These “out of states” stores were owned by businessmen within our county who always used their influence the keep the county nominally dry. It’s a scheme that monopolizes the industry for the powerful individuals robbing not just other businessman but the local governments via taxes and entire county at large of revenue. And they have the power of their law on their for anyone who goes against the scheme. Then I got older and realized this is every dry county. They are all actually Chicago-style prohibition counties, dry in name only and controlled by the local mafia syndicate. The movie series Walking Tall is based on a real person in a real dry county who tried to fight this system
>>537094247Funny how it's almost always a racket like this
>>537092903It's a slippery slope. It convinces you it's making you feel better while conversely it makes you feel like shit at all other times, so you drink more to try and not feel like shit which only makes it worse later. Banning it is fucking stupid, it's something you need a cultural solution for.
>>537094013>same goes for AI trying to tell you how to behaveMy brother is OBSESSED with AI. He literally asks it everything. We are gym buddies, right, we're working out he's taking forever to change the weight for his set, and he tells me he's asking chatGPT for what weight he should increase it to despite him doing these weight for a year now. I thought he was joking. He's always talking about Claude and shit now >>537093962Just stop drinking spirits. It's bloody hard to be a drunk on beer. Anything used as a coping mechanism is bad for you. Did you make this thread just to blogpost?
>>537093962>unless I had at least 200 mL>American flagObvious VPN ESL
>>537092903Alcohol is a disinfectant and medicinal.It is best used in moderation, and not every day, or even every week.
>>537092903I’m fuckin drunk ama
>>537094414It's a horrific feedback loop, especially if you got into it because of unrelated stressors. They never taught us about how alcoholism actually works in school and I'm convinced that even many medical professionals don't fully understand it, they have a layman's perspective and just use generic, outdated protocols to half-assedly treat it. Second only to benzo withdrawal, wouldn't wish that on anyone but my worst enemy. Although alcohol withdrawal might be more intense in the short term
>>537092903Without alcohol id be a fucking wealthy man>be young>meet party chick>fall in lust >years latter >im popular and people are trying to save me from her >get free >cant give up the life>spend next so long of years fucking skanks and drinking myself into oblivion >eventually get my shit together >start living life >infinitely more satisfied >still party on occasion >still that same person >just better I could have been doing this the whole damn time sure things worked out but im me and not anon so dont think it would happen the same >ive lost so many to drugs and alcohol >rip in pepperonis all of you I miss you like you wouldn't believe Ill be hovering for a bit with sage going in all advice fields
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>>537094648>memeflagI don't know why but I guess... brazil
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>>537094414Beer just means you need more liquid to get there but it's the same shit for a real alcoholic. There's a reason people make jokes about Indians and mouthwash
>>537094353Minors in dry counties actually have easier access to alcohol. The illicit way to obtain alcohol is THE way for everyone, it’s already known and established
>>537094759USAI swore an oath to use a meme flag until all of them are banned outright or flags are done away with entirely fuck you moot for what you did
>>537092903i have gotten drunk on beer every night for the past 15 years. and I am still successful. I believe this is the one true "im white" argument. brownies cant hack it
Stupid and irresponsible government. In a time of crisis, a family couldn't even own a still to make anything useful, much less alcohol, without being branded a felon. As a homesteader, it pisses me off that I can't even make my own disinfectants.
>>537094429that AI reliance is only going to get more common. for example, why risk looking dumb by asking others a question when you can quietly ask AI?
>>537094429>Did you make this thread just to blogpost?Yup. I'm wondering if it's possible to go back to controlled drinking after being a serious alcoholic for years. I can't socialize without booze.
>>537095001Because looking dumb is a largely imaginary and inconsequential problem whereas relying on an advanced chatbot that is best at sounding legit while spewing out a bunch of half hallucinated garbage you can only vet with expertise and critical thinking skills just creates a feedback loop of ignoranceOption 1) feel foolish and learnOption 2) stay comfortable and become a literal retard
>>537095157learn? that sounds uncomfortable. i just need the solution right now. i'd prefer not learning anything. and i don't want to look foolish of course.this all boils down to having sex btw
>>537095312It's going to be like the Morlocks and the Eloi
>>537095029Just carry a red bull around or some shit instead of alcohol bro That is literally it >>537095508KeK
>>537092903I think the dangers of alcohol could be almost entirely eliminated if they just invented a pill that keeps tolerance from building up.If you have zero tolerance even a single beer can get you tipsy. But then week by week you build up tolerance until you have to do a few shots + a few beers to even feel anything.I have to imagine there's a way to disable tolerance at a biological level. Alcohol kills because eventually your tolerance is so high you need a pint of vodka to feel anything. If you could stay at the "2 beers makes me feel great" stage, then alcohol would be basically harmless.
>>537095029You're putting a lot of definites while asking for advice. If you truly can't socialise without drinking well I guess you shouldn't socialise then: What kind of answer can someone give here that you won't just shoot down? Just foster a less destructive relationship with alcoholHave a beer or wine with dinner instead of "sipping vodka to go to sleep". Get a hold of yourself. There's no advice that can be given on here that will stop you being a compulsive drunk. So I advise no one to pat you on the back for this mope. Either go to AA or freeze your debit/credit card so you can't buy boozeMy mistake for thinking this was gonna be an actual discussion on alcohol jurisdiction
>>537092903>What does /pol/ think of dry counties?Used to work fine. Cut down on women drinking in public.>Are they justified? Yes. If you are too female or brown you should have no legal access to alcohol.>How is your relationship with alcohol?Drink occasionally, was a drunk in college.Moderation is key.>Can committed alcoholics ever go back to controlled drinking?No.The problem is not the alcohol, but the alcoholic. Your utter lack of self-discipline and tendency to get addicted to ANYTHING is the problem. Your only viable course of action is to STOP and never pick it up again.I was a drunk.I could match you or best you in drinking.I can also simply stop.Sometimes I don't drink for months.When I do, it's because I'd like to, not because I have some burning desire to fill the hole in my soul with alcohol.People like me can stop and start back.You can't.You need to just stop.Fill the hole in your soul first, or don't even bother stopping. You'll just screw it up anyway.
>>537092903Alcohol is not great, especially not when drunk too much, but it does serve as very effective social lubricant, also it is an effective tool to ensure relatively safe clean drinkable moisture in less developed countries.Similarly it provides some protection against yet worse ruinous afflictions, primarily islam but not limited to it.I myself barely drink and always discourage excessive consumption, but it has enough positives to consider it a net benefit for most.
>>537095839Why do posts like these always neglect the fact that people also enjoy the taste? Maybe that's why you don't drink. Also, good lord man, if you're gonna type like an 18 year old pseudo intellectual try to cut down on the redundant words. Painful to read and makes you look a right dope.
>>537095649>But then week by week you build up tolerance until you have to do a few shots + a few beers to even feel anything.No.I've been drinking since about 1993 and I have never built up a tolerance.You simply STOP drinking.Don't drink seven days a week.Better yet, don't drink more than three.Don't drink for breakfast.Don't drink because you have nothing better to do.Addiction is a mental problem, not a chemical one.
>>537095839homemade alcohol is basically impossible to fuck up on the safety front, even distilled. Only gets dangerous when people go out of their way to poison it (like the feds did during prohibition) Too much copper is kind of a thing with moonshine if the still isn't maintained at all, but that's more of a after 30 years of it issue.Like methanol is the only half-way common thing that will get you drunk but also kill you, but it's antidote is ethanol. Iso alcohol the only realistic danger is respiratory depression and aspiration after you drink too much(like regular booze)
>>537092903The Dionysian Spirit built the West. All anti-alcohol posters are goatfuckers. Simple as.
>>537095730That was years ago. I do want opinions on whether or not it's possible to walk it back once you've already crossed that line, though. If you've never gone there, you probably don't know.
>>537095740The things I'm grappling with or missing don't have much to fo with alcohol. I can put it down without craving it, my issue is that if I drink too much I have a tendency to binge and drink a full 12 pack or whatever
>>537096413Alcohol addiction is a physiological ("chemical") problem
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>>537096413Like a 6 pack a night for years is where you maybe (just maybe) start to develop a physical addiction, depending on genetics that much might never do anything to you as long as you don't get hangovers easily.Also believing that addiction doesn't exist immediately outs you as a Mexican or Native American, try better next time.
>>537099920If you slam those 6 in a short period for just a couple of weeks straight you have a physical addiction. The harder and longer you go, the stronger it is. Just try it. My resting heart rate went from somewhere between 60 and 80 to between 110 and 140 for a couple of weeks when I first realized I was in a situation
i just got a high bac dui and hit another car and totaled mine. lost job and already out $20k before the court date. i’m blackened seared.
>>537092903>Can committed alcoholics ever go back to controlled drinking?This is the only question you wanted an answer to, and sadly that answer is no.You either die sober or you die young from the drink
>>537092903>dry countieshow do you cope with all that freedom?
>>537100776Can't believe magical modern heckin' science hasn't found antidotes to the side effects of all of the fun stuff yet
>>537092903I think it's fine to deny sales of the liquid jew if that's what the people living there want.People should also be allowed to distill their own liquor too, so long as they're not selling it (barter should be allowable).
>>537093962Same. I was drinking about 1L of vodka day. Now I've been sober for 5 years.I miss drinking occasionally when I forget how bad things were. Not bad enough to try it again. I know I can't drink moderately.
>>537092903Looks like lagavulin 16, a bold choice
>>537092903I like some drinks, but getting drunk is a no-no(i hate it). Anyone that can't handle drugs or alcohol is a weak-willed reprobate IMO. I can use all drugs responsibly and without getting addicted or wrecking my life.
>>537102129It's easier when you don't have any real problems in life
>>537102251Oh I've got problems, I just never turned to substances for reprieve. I don't gamble either. For me, holding discipline over my mind is of the utmost importance. I don't want to get in trouble end end up killing large amounts of people, so I have spent decades honing mental control to stop me from becoming a monster. This has had the secondary effect of making vice not an issue for me to control.
>>537092903Pretty gay
>>537092903Alcohol is evil. I’m one year sober, and it’s incredible how many elements of my life have dramatically improved in such a short time. I ceased being content wasting my free time drinking and doing faggy shit like going to bars, and as a result, got back in shape, made $400k last year, and expect to make even more this year. Once you start drinking regularly, it’s incredibly easy to convince yourself that its normalization is acceptable while blinding yourself from the fact that you’re embracing mediocrity. Fuck that shit.
