So are only rich people allowed to buy new cars now?
retard tax
Could buy a trx at that price
>>537099877Why are you concerned about what rich people can buy?
>>537099877>hybridgood luck fixing that borg cube in mad max world.
>>537099877>So are only rich people allowed to buy new cars now?Only poor people buy new cars.
If you look into it, Toyotas are shit now. They had rusty frame problems in earlier years. "Toyota drive train is rock solid" kinda true but annoying small shit always happens
>>537099877>CADass wipe currency
>>537099877New cars are cancer to repair, and everything eventually breaks.
>>537099877>>537100125The new Tundra engines blow up while you drive and Toyota has zero clue how to fix it. If you are lucky enough to be under the recall, all they do is have a minimum wage warranty tech replace half the engine with the same parts that blew up from factory. Except now you also need to pray they worked clean and torque everything to spec or you are fucked for other reasons. The 2022+ Tundra 3rd gen is junk. The 2nd Gen are holding their used prices high because smart money are choosing the 2017-2021 trucks instead at this point. The only thing Toyota had with the Tundra still was the promise of reliability and never needing to worry. And that's gone out the window with the 3.5 engine being a ticking time bomb. The 2007-2021 2nd gens were always a hidden gem because every component was overengineered. They are secretly 3/4 ton trucks in nearly every way except for the frame thickness. Because Toyota was originally planning on getting into the HD market before backing out. But the 3rd gen is nothing like that. Hell, the Full sized 3rd gen cab is smaller than the mid-size second gen cab! Its ridiculous.
>>537099877>the most edamame looking sorry excuse heap of faggotry to be called a pickupreject modernity embrace tradition
>>537099877>145k USDWHAT THE FUCK!?
>>537100073What about fuel efficiency?>>537100475New cars are more fuel efficient, though. The age of simple, cast iron diesel engines is long gone.
>>537099877Literally the opposite. Only poor retards buy new.
The 2600 square foot home in the suburbs on land that's nearly 1 acre cost 225k in 1992. It's worth more than most will earn in their entire life now. this country is fucked and no political solution exists.
>>537100503>smart money are choosing the 2017-2021 trucks instead at this point.smart money is buying trucks from before y2k and doing easy wrench jobs for the next four decades in their or their buddy's garage
>>537100069>In today's money, the top-of-the-line 2000 Toyota Tundra would cost between $52,595 and $57,350.Nigger that is nearly three times the cost adjusted for inflation. Those trucks were affordable to any jackoff who made over 40K a year. No way in hell could you do that now. You dumbfucks miss the point, it goes back to Cash For Clunkers. The used car market was intentionally gutted, then covid was the death blow.
>>537100503>smart money are choosing the 2017-2021 trucks instead at this point.Buying a post-2000s Toyota or Ford is a mugs game, they're poorly build piles of shit.
>>537100714and pay up the ass in insurance
>>537100001>For just 150k you can buy a fiat
Buy a Kia. My 2026 was $35k and it's fucking sweet
>>537100828yeah bro $75 a month is killing meyou must be a brown clown with a thousand tickets and accidents
>>537100769See >>537100663
>>537100663MPGs are a nice attribute. You have to balance what works for your lifestyle/budget/reparability. Diesels are pretty wack nowadays due to DPF and DEF systems, yeah bud let's make something that's tough and reliable and make it more complicated. I would rather have something that's simple to fix but doesn't get the greatest MPG than vice versa.
>>537099877Why would the Rich need a truck. Its not like they do any manual labor? Holy fuck this market is doomed.
>>537100882stop lying jam boy. you're not impressing anyone here
i bought a used BMW e90 for 4000 CAD with 150k KM on it and replaced the starter about 5 years ago, zero problems all wheel drive and airconditioning with a little pep in its step for when i need to get on with faster trafficif youre not willing to be a little handy and look up fixes on youtube then ya buy a goy slave new car that has a modem built in to auto steer kill you for hating jews LOL
>>537101023just bought a cherry 1992 f 250 with 60k miles on it for 7 grand from some old guy. my friend already offered me 15k for it. could get at least 30 for it if i wanted
>>537100903But modern engines pull way harder and drink less fuel doing it. To get that kind of horsepower and torque out of an old, simple motor, you’d need a massive displacement that’d absolutely burn a hole in your wallet at the bowser. With fuel prices today, a simple engine made out of cast iron that weighs a tonne is just not feasible.
>>537100503>how to fix itlobby congress to repeal CAFEwait til you learn about what they have to do to passenger car pistons to meet current year rules
>>537100903dont spooge on your battery terminals, anon
>>537101147yup when i heard that every car post 2027 or something needs to have a camera built in to watch you, i knew that was it for me no new cars never again
>>537099877Why the fuck would you want a computer on wheels?
>>537100663>What about fuel efficiency?>electric >fuel efficiency lmao all that for the ipad to drain the generator. could have just gotten a v12 if you wanted 12 mpg.
America is some kinda weird rich oligarchy communist country where the very top of the committee siphons off money from the government and drives the entire economy while 99% of the population lives in perpetual poverty and risk homelessness
>>537100069The top 10% keep the shitshow going lol, the goyconomy is blasted
>>537101006I sold the 2nd vehicle on this policy and it dropped from $89/mo to 75, sucks to suck broenjoying my OBS powerstroke all day every day :)
>>537099877THE TOWING MIRRORS ARE 50K EACH
>>537099877I just want an early hilux without all the luxury and electronic shit
>>537101279that was actually a fantasy anon, i lied. i don't even have any friends. and could never find a truck like that for 7k. and i don't even have 7k if i found it. forgive me leaf then put me out of my misery.
>>537099877That thing looks hideous and is probably full of AIDS
>>537101339Look, I think modern cars are soulless too, but you can't deny these hybrids get 50 to 60 MPG and accelerate quickly thanks to the electric motors.
>>537101477its all good, even if you had tons of friends you would lose a lot of them once you get older, they have kids or a family etc....theres really no such thing as true friends these days anymore and if you get 1-2 in your life you should consider yourself luckyit only gets worse from here, enjoy
>>537101344oh yea? and how often do you drive it numb nuts? don't bull shit me about paying dick for driving an ancient relic of the past which barely made it past the point where there were no seat belts. Insurance companies will charge you far more for daily driving cars with outdated safety features
>>537099877I HAVE TO BUY THE LUXURY MODELWHY IS THIS UNAFFORDABLE
>>537101344checked and can confirmI paid $124 a month since 2003 regardless of vehicles on my plan. Full coverage on everything except 1 truck I designated as a farm truck.It more than tripled recently because I had to get what almost amounts to getting a commercial policy on two of my trucks. My fishing boat (non-commercial) insurance is something like $60 a month, not sure, its on auto-pay and I pay annually but that is close. Replacement value on it could buy a nice house pretty much anywhere. Rates make zero fucking sense.
>>537100769Compared to what you aussies have, for sure. I would buy a proper Land Cruiser in a heartbeat if I could. The reality is even up until the late 2010s Toyota was making above par reliability vehicles in the states. Although that is only partially true, the hard truth being that all of the Toyota models sold until then were all designed in the early 2000s. The 2007-2021 Tundras are all fully compatible with eachother parts-wise. Its the same truck in every way. >>537100714If you are about that wrench life for sure. But for the guy who needs a work truck that won't let him down, its a different story. Besides there isnt a single toyota truck from 1980 through now that is under $10k these days. You have to get one really beat to shit to go under $10k. Even trucks with over 300k miles are selling for over $10k. >>537100769With Toyota gone to shit the F150 is somehow the most reliable truck platform right now in the states. They have two engines that are considered rock solid, and the fact that you can custom order a truck exactly how you want makes them the clear choice if you arent a Mopar or Bowtie diehard. Which feels very wrong to say but it seems to be the truth. Still electric issues but then every make has those nowadays so you get what you get.I have been holding out for Toyota to come out with a proper fix to replace my 2016 but at this point im just going with the F250.
>>537101151I don't need that much HP for a daily/work vehicle, I just want something I can live with for as long as possible. A oddball daily like the booba tracker would be an ideal vehicle for moi.>>537101251Some people are allergic to cleaning a battery terminal and wonder why their batteries last 2 years. But GAWD forbid they pay extra money for an absorbed glass mat battery that doesn't corrode/degas and survives all sorts of abuse.
>>537101685canada is a rip off resource colony for the city of london, they pay 3.49 for high quality kerrygold butter in america and we pay $7 for french canadian bullshitin america everything is more available, better quality and available at a better price thats why
>>537101547>auto steer kill you for hating jewsthis was kek btwbut yeah i'm a prime millenial and neet for many years so all that shit already happened. last friend i had from high school who was IRL and gamer friend since eve online and vanilla wow days just finally totally fizzled out. he is a lefty and we'd gotten any many fights and multiple fall outs over the years but now it is probably all over. you might have been brainwashed by the jews but we could have worked around that even though you thought trannies should be allowed in women's restrooms.
>>537101721Toyota is considered a luxury brand now?
Top of the line trucks are basically luxury vehicles, this is like complaining that Escalades are pricing out the sports utility everyman
>>537101946im moving to the states soon on a work visa and im gonna have this same exact problem of being someone new in town with no friends or family, just gonna try and get involved with hobbies and shit fuck it if no one wants to make friends then ill die bitter and alone thats life for most men anywaysits not worth trying to convince anyone of something politically, humans are dumb animals and most have already made their minds up
>>537099877I wonder what percentage of car drivers are driving financed cars these days. It must be pretty high
>>537102066i'm fine with being alone. but i've had some good friends that i knew for many years and had some great memories with. it's just a shame. don't even want new friends. i'm actually trying to back out of this world as much as possible. ideally i will stop coming to this site but it has a death grip on me and might be here forever.
>>537099877>for less than half of that you can get a Jeep that's better offroad>and any Mitsubishi with a proper loading bed>and still have over 50k leftAnyone who buys into those useless monstrosities has more money than brains. I hate stupid people so much it's insane.
>>537101023Kek picrel
>>537101685nothing in your post is true. I've had 6 figure classic cars and it didn't cost me shit to insure them. Fell under the same $124 I always paid. Hell, I had a "street legal" more or less monster truck, didn't cost me any more than what I was paying on my new 1 ton before changing policy requirements. The only thing I've never personally done was the home made vehicle option, although I know plenty of people who have and insurance price wasn't a complaint. Unless you owe a bank money on it (meaning you don't own it) the insurance company doesn't give a fuck about your car. It is just an easy payday every month when you strike the check for something you are scared to use.
>>537102066we have too many jeets already
>>537101988The Capstone is the top-of-the-line model for Toyota right now. Its $$ more expensive than the base model, is what anon was referring to.
>>537102160its ok, keep coming here i have been visting 4chan since gr7 on /b/ and long run it didnt make a difference, its a good site you dont need an account and you cant say what you want....canadas about to pass digital ID so the internets gonna die here, with all the indians and bots it already is
>>537101721As if you could still buy a low trim reliable car without useless electronic anymore. Basic civic is 25k while picrel was 8k.
>>537102323it's all the porn on here that is the biggest problem. i don't wanna see it. what state are you moving to
>>537102513colorado, i like mountains and sunshine and low humidity...was thinking texas or florida but need mountains and colorado has slightly less spics...also considering tennesee because of 0 state tax and super white
>>537101911>if you arent a Mopar or Bowtie diehard. >Which feels very wrong to say but it seems to be the truth.fucking checked and truthfulChevy guy through and through, actually considered a Ram for my last truck but ultimately settled on a Ford. Look around the roads at 1tons. It is obvious who the leader is. I'll keep my toys Chevy, but I'll work and daily drive a Ford. Rams are nice, but without a bed full of fat girls, they ride like shit. I see so few GM duallys in any application, I wasn't even willing to give them a shot. Pure volume on the highway is Fords greatest commercial.
>>537099877why is it so overpriced? is it also a transformer?
>>537099877lol imagine being a retard and actually buying that
>>537102630last time i was there to hike mt elbert. truck got broken into at the hotel first night. both windows smashed out. everything stolen. weed shops everywhere. love the mountains tho
>>537101342>the very top of the committee siphons off money from the governmentThat's what the coup of 1913 was about. The "Federal" "Reserve"
>>537102776fuck, where else is a white man to go....i guess we really gotta kill em all globally
>>537099877>145 smacks for a toyota suvonly in muttland
>>537103035pickup*
>>537102982honestly i always assumed it was whites. bunch of homeless. obviously could have been shitskins but for some reason always pictured them as whites. they got a REALLY nice haul from it, too.
>>537099877It has towing mirrors.Im sold.
Get a 2010-2024 Toyota 4runner. Same reliable ancient V6 and 5 speed but with a modern body style.
>>537099877Suck it up and pick up your bootstraps. A firm handshake is all you need to get the car loan
>>537101685getting mad at me isn't going to fix your bad driving habits, poor accident record, brown skin, or Canada in generalwhy are you fuming at anonymous? be mad at your government, insurance companies, and fate instead>>537101843I had geico for over a decade and suddenly the policy doubled over covid for a fucking 4cyl hatch that was parked 99% of the time. These days it feels like you have to shop around to take advantage of the sign-on deals every year or two if you don't have a sweetheart setup. It's being used as another lever to squeeze actual humans while illegals give no fucks, we are literally paying for the mud flood not having insurance with our rates>>537101911>If you are about that wrench life for sure. But for the guy who needs a work truck that won't let him down, its a different story.It's not about wrenching all the time, it's about when it does need work it's doable everywhere by anyone including myself because it's dead fucking simple. This thing has over 800k miles left in it, isn't ford retiring their other diesel options and going back to nothing but 7.3s? Why fix what ain't broke, what am I missing besides a bunch of electronics everywhere? I'm happy the leaf springs bounce my girl's titties everywhere, more fun offroad too, newer model cars have felt soulless to me since the early/mid teens
>>537100001OK now how about when its not that fluffy shit
>>537103035>>537103129What does that one cost in Romania?
>>537099877I already have a real car.
>>537099877I don't need more. It carries all my groceries. Cheap to maintain. No worries.
>>537104017It doesn't sell here because nobody would waste so much money on a pickup.
>>537104530So nobody has a truck in romania? Like even mid-sized cuck trucks? Sounds pretty gay
>>537104799
What's the mindset behind buying a new car instead of spending like 10k on a decent used car that you can get 150-200k miles on?I just can't comprehend consumption to this excessive extent.
>>537105036There is a lot to the numbers but in many cases over the past 10 years it has been cheaper to lease new than buy used. The EV tax rebate was an easy example. You could basically lease a new EV for free for many years. The other end had to do with limited supply during Covid. You can explore all the leasing numbers yourself but there were quite a few models with low residuals and allowed MSDS that meant you were leasing things like Tacomas for $2k over the course of the whole lease.Which was already wild but then due to limited Covid stock you could then sell your lease for a profit. Now this was all well and dandy for the people buying new (leasing) but the back half to that is a cheap lease is cheap because the car isnt losing value. So the>tldrof it all is, many used vehicles are selling for new prices, if not MORE than what they were new when they first came out. Now this would in theory only affect 2020+ models, but of course it has downstream effects on all other used prices as well. There is essentially no reason to buy used anymore from a value perspective. The concept of a vehicle losing half its value when you drive off the lot is history.
>>537099877This is proof the middle class is vanishing. When companies no longer offer affordable cars, that means they left the middle class in the dust. They make more money selling luxury vehicles to the rich.
>>537105898>just lease lol fuck off>>537106230indeed, the economy now runs solely on the top 5%, no different here. Everyone who pays the taxes cant afford fuck all and the ones who can afford luxury just get buying more lol. Enjoy work tomorrow btw
>>537100715Your right about the first part your assessment is basic boiler plate talk show host conservative trash. Cash for clunkers only raked in 677,081 veichles. May seem like a lot but to give you an idea 10 million plus cars were made and sold that same year. Plus these were fucking clunkers as the program entailed. You only got 4500 tops so if it was a well functioning car you sold it for more easily. So you have a false idea in your head that a barely running car that was from the 90s or early 2000s is still creating a shock on the market almost 17 years later? Think man, and stop taking conservative talking points at face value they like to lie and cope like it's a hard drug. Shed old stupid crap assumptions from your mind.
Well would you look at thatTo buy a Land Rover you will need to pay with your cockIf you want the Discover series with the Union Jack at the lower-right side of the cover of the Land Rover you will need to add both of your balls for itAnd will not be a thing for everyone as there will be niggers and untrustworthy niggers
>>537101151Modern engines are more "efficient" because they are slapping turbos on everything which shortens the life span of the engine. No car model is getting a good report card anymore not even the camerys or corallas which were the king of long life span.
>>537099877Or you could just not by the "Hybrid CrewMax Capstone" for $41,000.https://www.toyota.com/tundra/>and then one day, for no reason whatsoever, the Jews decided you were all just cattle.
