There are no "atheists", only those who profess "atheism", but in reality everyone knows God exists...they just hate Him."Atheism" can not account for absolute truths..such as morality. They will claim morays and preferences, but can not account for objective truths such as morality. All an "atheist" does is state they 'don't believe in god', but they don't like their lives that way.The "atheist" can not account for truth according to their professed worldview.
Morality is just a product of evolution to maximise survival.
There is no logical or metaphysical inconsistencies in claiming a godless, eternal, pluralistic universe of constantly competing forces.
>>537124074Morays are the subjective customs of a society.Morality is the objective standard of "right" that is prescriptive."atheism" can not account for absolute truths.
>>537123952Yeah glad we have the bibull to teach us morality
>>537124074To a certain point. At this point humans produce both "good" (universal benevolence) and "evil" (actively anti-human totalitarian systems) that have no evolutionary purpose. I would say the former is an almost necessary byproduct of developed consciousness, because you are profoundly aware of the suffering of others and how it is the same as your own. Regardless, it seems like "good" is an emergent property that currently exists only within humans and occasionally within a few other species.
>>537124116The Laws of Logic are absolute truths. The Christian worldview holds that Logic is how God thinks, and we are suppose to be logical, because we are suppose to be godly.QUESTION: Apart from relying on God, how does "atheism" account for absolute truths, such as the Laws of Logic?
>>537124402>Morality is the objective standard of "right" that is prescriptive.Is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?>"atheism" can not account for absolute truths.minimizing harm, maximizing well-being, and social contracts can be justified through reason and our evolved capacity for empathy.
if objective morality exists then circumcision would certainly fall under "evil" but under your religion it's moral or doesn't matterso jesus had time to outlaw usury but not baby dick cutting, wonderfulobjective morality doesn't exist, get over it
>>537123952.God is dead, and I killed him.you hear?
>>537124557>how does "atheism" account for absolute truths, such as the Laws of Logic?I view logical laws as foundational rules discovered by humans that are necessary for coherent communication and rational thought
>>537124402>MoraysYou rang?
>>537124478God says He has revealed Himself to everyone sufficiently for your condemnation. You don't have to physically have a king james bible to know some objective truths...such as morals.
>>537123952Cope shitskins
>>537124487>To a certain pointNo, it's the entire point. You help others because you subconsciously believe they might help you later and this will increase the chances of survival for both of you. It's not that deep.
>>537124402>Morays are the subjective customs of a society.Leave the eels out of this!>>537124557I'm not seeing an argument for why you need a God if the universe(s) and these laws are themselves eternal.
>>537124661>Is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?By what objective standard would anything be "wrong", apart form God?>minimizing harm, maximizing well-being, and social contracts can be justified through reason and our evolved capacity for empathy.You're just begging the question: Why is "minimizing harm" the objectively "right" choice?...I might care more about myself than the majority.
>>537124833There is absolutely no evolutionary reason for humans to deeply empathize with and go out of their way to extend altruism to non-human animals, or even humans outside of their immediate tribe.
>>537123952Based
>>537125105>By what objective standard would anything be "wrong", apart form God?The same God that changes his mind?So is it objectively wrong?>>537125105>Why is "minimizing harm" the objectively "right" choice?Better survivability, social cohesion and peace. If you don't understand this then you are either disingenuous on purpose or genuinely stupid
>>537123952It has been revealed that the Jews are the greatest adversaries of Christianity and Christ, not the Nazis.
>>537124074>>537124402Morality is entirely subjective
>>537125175Says who? I'm sure you can find a statistical correlation that shows that it's beneficial on a broader scale. Or maybe even harmful idk. Domestication, agriculture, and tracking predators all required early humans to deeply understand and predict animal behavior. Empathy is just a high-level cognitive tool for prediction.
>>537125377A. That isn't Adolf Hitler in that picture. I have no idea why they used that picture when there are literally hundreds of thousands of actual photos of Hitler they could have used. B. Nazis aren't the greatest adversaries of anything right now because there's hardly any of them and they have no power whatsoever.
>>537123952Beyond stupid take. We know for sure that religion is a historical process of oral and literary creation.
There are no "believers", only those who profess "religion", but in reality everyone knows the supernatural doesn't exist...they just cope.>>537124402Then how come peoples disagree on what is moral? Poojeet larper.
>>537123952Morality = Don't harm others. Simple as. For some reason religionists (especially statists) just can't figure this one out. Why are religionists (and especially statists) so violent and eager to harm others?
>>537125537Platonism, Judaism and Christianity have done us a great disservice
>>537123952There are no "aunicornists", only those who profess "aunicornism", but in reality everyone knows the invisible unicorn that stands behind you exists...they just hate Him.
>>537125486>Or maybe even harmful idk.If it's harmful then it goes against what you're saying. >Domestication, agriculture, and tracking predators all required early humans to deeply understand and predict animal behavior. Empathy is just a high-level cognitive tool for prediction.You're not actually arguing against what I'm saying. You're just explaining how this emergent property arose.
>>537124735>if objective morality exists then circumcision would certainly fall under "evil"Jesus Christ *is* God Almighty in the flesh. Jesus Christ did not come to destroy the law, but to uphold it. You don't even understand what 'circumcision' actually is......it's more than just 'cutting physical skin'. It's an act of faith in a world consumed by the lusts of the flesh.Sexual pleasure is a gift of God....and hypersexual mentality is opium of the masses back then. Circumcision is a demonstration of faith...and it comes in many forms beyond mere cutting of skin. It's to be 'cut off' from the sins of the world.
>>537125582No, I think killing my enemies is good, because it's beneficial to me and my group
>>537123952and why would you use a memeflag to post this surprising epiphany? fuck your kike gods. i dgaf. we have to deal with problems that jews created. god? lol. lmao.
>>537123952Atheist here. My moral code is based on basic human empathy. I don't do things that would cause others pain, because those things if done to me would cause me pain.Not a super hard concept to grasp, OP.
>>537125697So again>>537124661>Is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?
>>537125582>Morality = Don't harm others. Simple as. For some reason religionists (especially statists) just can't figure this one out.The ultimate enlightened debate is between cosmic anarcho-pacifism and cosmic libertarianism.
>>537125697Hey, you brown larper, answer this: would you prefer your country be 100% white but 0% christian, or 100% christian but 0% white? Everyone will notice if you avoid the question.
>>537123952Close but not really. There's no such thing as an atheist because there's nobody who can tell you for a fact that there is no God and prove it. They can only say that they don't believe that there is a God which is not the same thing that would be agnosticism. Atheists do not exist because the whole idea that you can know that there is no God is ridiculous
>>537124762>foundational rules discovered by humans that are necessary for coherent communication and rational thoughtQUESTION: Where do 'foundational rules necessary for coherent communcation and rationality' come from complete randomness?The Christian worldview holds God as THE OBJECTIVE STANDARD. So called "atheists" can not account for the prescriptive 'rules' by which they even think, let alone speak, by.
>>537125710If you are doing this strictly out of self defense this "killing of your enemies" can still be moral and right. If you are harming others just because it is beneficial to you and your group when this other group poses no threat to you and your group then you are being very immoral. (Dare I say evil?)
>>537125660Just because a biological tool becomes complex doesn't mean it magically stops being bound by the rules of survival.
>>537125929Bro, by this logic literally everyone is agnostic, apolitical, aphilosophical, etc.
>>537124557Mathematical truths exist independently of anything that physically exists. They did not come from god. They always were.
Many such cases, christ cuck.Praise SOL
>>537125991No, I don't care if it's moral If my people are healthy and strong we conquer Lebensraum because we have the ability to do so
>>537124976>I'm not seeing an argument for why you need a God if the universe(s) and these laws are themselves eternal.'A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet'. Thank you for admitting the Laws of Logic are eternal prescriptive laws.
Suppose God exists and that he is all powerful, all knowing, and just and benevolent in every way.He knows me better than I know myself so he knows that I would be an atheist. He knew this before I was even born. He knows every single thing that will ever happen to me in my whole life and he knows how all those events will shape my belief structure. In fact he doesn't just know it - he ORCHESTRATED it.With that in mind, there can only be two possible realities:1. I'm right and God is not real2. God is real and he has ordained that I will be an atheist. I can't possibly be punished for this because a benevolent God would not punish someone for something beyond their control.Guess I'll go on being an atheist.
>>537126005I don't even know what you're arguing anymore. If human altruism can be extended to a suicidal degree, then it obviously doesn't exist simply to keep humans alive.
>>537125978>come from complete randomness?It's only "complete randomness" because you don't understand it. Hence why you put "God" in that gap.
>>537123952You worship a jew on a stick, who teaches that niggers are your equals.Christianity was created by jews to turn the White Man gay.What you call "morality" is an engineered pussification of our race. The last time Christians had any balls left, was the crusades. Today they won't even kill muslims, despite it being easier with modern technology, and merely a matter of basic hygiene & pest control.
>>537126242>Thank you for admitting the Laws of Logic are eternal prescriptive laws.I was never arguing otherwise, but this isn't an argument for the existence of a God. Certainly not the Abrahamic god.
>>537126191>I don't care if it's moralClearly. Oddly enough, you are like the vast majority of people. (Most people simply do not possess the capacity for objective morality.)
>>537123952There is a reason Athiests end up being degenerates. It is impossible for them to live a disciplined life.>Romans 1:28>KJV: "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;>"NIV: "Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done."
>>537125582>Morality = Don't harm othersRetard.Morality is what is acceptable to do in a group of people. It is subjective.You have the kiked version in your head, which you've been taught to apply to everyone.
>>537126191>If my people are healthy and strong we conquer Lebensraum because we have the ability to do soYeah, how'd that work out for you last time?
>>537126290I don't believe in a God either but this argument has always seemed dumb to me. It makes sense, but only if we assume God is bound by linear time and 3D human logic. To us, predestination and free will look like an impossible contradiction. But from a higher-dimensional perspective, the rules of logic, justice, and accountability might look entirely different and be completely incomprehensible to our limited brains.It's like a 2D stick figure trying to explain the rules of a 3D sphere
>>537126519>Morality is subjective.Do not fear me, Gypsy. All I want from you is your tears. Please give them to me or I will take them.
>>537123952You're a fucking fagYour mother gave me the 3rd Reich Gluck, gluck, gluck
>>537123952I dont hate godI dont do things to provoke him or cause him to want to punish me now instead of later. Im just not fully convinced. Being agnostic is a cop out for those that feel fear and unsure. Im sure there is no god and Im not afraid of being wrong.
It’s clear that a lot of the anti-Christian spam comes from unhinged jews. I don’t know why they even bother.
>>537126506sybau
>>537123952morality is fake and gay
>>537125318>The same God that changes his mind?If a parent says the child is "not allowed' to cross the street today, and then tomorrow sayd the child 'may' cross the street 'today'.....is your problem with that parent because explanation was not provided, or something else?>Better survivability, social cohesion and peace.You are still begging the question: Why is "better survivability" the proper goal?...I might want you all dead for the sheer fun of it. Why is "social cohesion and peace" the proper goal....I might want to gain more power and control by slaughtering you faggots because it brings me great comedy._"If you don't understand this then you are either disingenuous on purpose or genuinely stupid"_ <~ I understand you have your favorite flavor of ice cream, but it's YOUR favorite flavor...it's just your subjective opinion when OBJECTIVE TRUTHS are the topic. The fool says in his heart there is no god.
>>537126539pretty good, what do you mean?Third time's the charm
>>537126072That's not true because there is scientific evidence that God exists. There is no scientific evidence that God does not exist
>>537125482>Morality is entirely subjectiveQUESTION: Is it always wrong for a Kike to torture and kill a small Aryan child for the sheer fun of it? Yes or No
>>537123952It’s actually QUITE the OPPOSITE. Everyone is born an atheist and will die one. All these man made gods are irrelevant and obsolete. Grow up it’s not the year 1209 anymore.
>>537126367You are stuck on the individual level and the immediate moment and fail to see timescales and macro-benefits. A trait that causes an individual to risk or lose their life can still be heavily selected for if it ensures the survival of their genetic group. Ultimately these are all hypotheses, but I have a pretty strong hunch you can prove it statistically with enough data.
>>537127011To be an atheist you have to know for a fact that there is no God. That's not even a concept when you are born, so you would be more likely agnostic
>>537126837>If a parent says the child is "not allowed' to cross the street today, and then tomorrow sayd the child 'may' cross the street 'today'...Then crossing the steeet is subjective.>>537126837>Why is "better survivability" the proper goal? Again>>537125318>If you don't understand this then you are either disingenuous on purpose or genuinely stupidSo is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?
>>537123952Try dmt
>>537123952ATHIESM IS A PSYOP BY GOD TO MAKE PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM LOOK STUPIDGOD IS A NON OMNIPOTENT CHILD RAPING NIGGER AND THERE IS NO OMNIPOTENCE
>>537127065It’s never a real concept. It’s man made so it’s 100% fake. It’s 100% fact that there is no god because it’s man made. You just can’t cope. Very sad.
>>537126963Yes, of course But if, hypothetically, I took a heeblet by its legs and slammed its infant head into the pavement in Minecraft, would that be evil and wrong?
>>537124478WHO THE FUCK SEES THAT SHIT AND BELIEVES IN JEBUSYOU HAVE TO BE NOT ONLY STUPID BUT EVILI ONLY BELIEVED IN JEBUS CUZ I DIDNT READ THE BIBLE I READ THE BIBLE THEN I WAS LIKETHIS IS THE BEING I WAS WORKING FOR ?ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT LOL FUCK JESUS
>>537124661Can a society survive with no loyalty? If children all ignored their parents, if all couples committed adultry, when nobody is sober and of sound mind, if everyone lied about everything to benefit themselves in the short term and if all business partnerships and dealings were based on deception?How do we test if one way is better then the other? By looking at the fruits. What are the results?How would one person get their truth over another? If you loved dogs but a stronger person thinks society should eat dogs alive and imposed that system on to you? Do you go along to get along? How does a society with too many opposing truths survive?
>>537125530Is it absolutely true that your religious beliefs are 'subjective creations of man' also?
>>537127150There is scientific evidence that God is real though. Just because you reject the science does not mean it's not there. It just means that you don't want it to be true so you are saying that it's not.
>>537124833If you only help out of the hope of a future reward then there is a far higher level of selfishness in you then average.
>>537123952fuck off archon
>>537127206Don't avoid the question, OPIs it evil to kill jewish children?Yes or no?
>>537126922>WWII went "pretty good" for GermanySure, bud. >>537126945>there is scientific evidence that God exists. There is no scientific evidence that God does not existSure, bud.
>>537123952>Everyone who disagrees with me secretly agrees with me so I win the argument by default.Damn how are Christians such good debaters?
Just want to remind everyone that this guy was tried and executed as a war criminal for the sole crime of having been the editor of a newspaper that said things about Jews.That's genuinely all they've found him guilty of. He was never charged with any violent act or any kind of wartime activity.The Nürnber Trials were the founding act of our modern international democratic rules based order that we're living in, by the way.
>>537127286Keyword>SubconsciousEveryone does it without being self-aware about it
>>537123952>The "atheist" can not account for truth according to their professed worldview.Define “truth.”
>>537127390https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetech/article-15712935/jesus-resurrection-shroud-turin-experiment.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus
>>537127252All the scientific evidence for God is just scientific evidence against physicalism. There are plenty of atheistic non-materialist paradigms that explain the same evidence. Quantum science and the whole Bernardo Kastrup / Donald Hoffman sphere are doing that as we speak.
>>537127390we're making a Comeback, I thought you noticed
>>537125492Are you retarded or something? Maybe you're a bot.
>>537127496>>537127492Explain it then because no scientist in 2026 can. If you can you will have achieved something the other scientist has
>>537125537>Food tastes bland says the man born without a sense of smell
>>537127530It literally isn't Hitler. It's a lookalike from some American production if I recall correctly. Get your eyes checked.
>>537126612That just makes it worse. Why would a benevolent God hold me, a mere 3-dimensional being, responsible for living up to his Nth-dimensional standards knowing I cannot possibly do so?No shit "God" is above these things, but my point is that I'M not. I'M constrained by linear time and space. I'M subject to the laws of cause and effect. And "he" made me this way.Either God isn't real, my belief structure is all part of his plan, or he is an evil being that made lesser creatures to torment and to worship him would be obscene. Oblivion is preferable.
>>537127390I mean 'winning' WW2 led to niggers everywhere and jews raping our kids, so, how did it turn out for us?
>>537123952MY LIFE IS PROOF THAT GOD IS A TURBO KIKE AND NOT OMNIPOTENTANYONE SHOWN MY LIFE WHEN NOT IN A BODY IMMEDIATELY RENOUNCED GOD AND STOPPED BELIEVING
>>537123952Abrahamniggers should be rounded up and gassed
>>537125482I remember being this cringe and retarded. I hope it passes for you like it did me.
>>537127546Once again, miracles are only an argument against physicalism, not an argument for the existence of God.
>>537123952>moralitymorals are opinions and not absolute truths. you can look at history to prove this. the Church would burn people alive all within the rigid bounds of morality. kekdumbass Christians should be shot along with the Jews and Muslims; the world would be a better place without religion.
>>537127635By constantly holding you to higher standards that you're unable to achieve he is constantly forcing you to grow
>>537127190>How would one person get their truth over another?There is only truth. Not yours, mine or theirs.
>>537125537>There are no "believers", only those who profess "religion"When I wake up in the morning I DO NOT grab the table because I fear the laws of gravity hasn't suddenly flipped and I'm going to hit the ceiling. I live CONSISTENTLY with my professed faith that the Universe will remain stable and trustworthy. You, on the other hand, live INCONSISTENT with "atheism" because you rely on the Universe being stable and trustworthy..despite "atheism" not being able to account for such stability.>Then how come peoples disagree on what is moral?The Christian response as to why God created you, and gave you the free will to be retarded...is always the same: It's for His glory. God created absolute morons like you so that I can expose just how retarded you are for the benefit of others...so that God gets all the glory. Simple. You're arguing you are just a meatpuppet gasbag...and you think you're being clever arguing it. God says you're a fool, and now others reading this have a better insight into just how fucking ASWESOME Lord Jesus Christ is. You gave me this moment to utterly crush you, and mock the living shit out of you...for His glory. ALLELUIA!!
>>537125582This and responses are what happens when you have conflicting frameworks. Who ends up getting their framework imposed on others? Would the two who lost power still be happy?
>>537123952Your belief system has nothing to do with your morals. Not in my opinion. It shouldn't at least.
>>537127780sounds salty
>>537123952>"Atheism" can not account for absolute truths..such as morality. If anything absolutely does not need a god to exist, it's morality. Stupid thread. I'm a panentheist and I don't see how god is connected to morality at all.
>>537127912>This and responses are what happens when you have conflicting frameworksThen you find commonalities and work on the disagreements Have you never worked on a team before?
>>537127696The post-WWII peace between Western nations is literally unprecedented in history.
>>537127914>Your belief system has nothing to do with your morals.Then it's an incomprehensive belief system, or you don't actually believe in it.
>>537125810Judaism rejects Lord Jesus Christ, retard.
>>537125916I prefer to see the whole clown world destroyed, be it brown or white, and you ? and yes, i prefer a 100¨% european country
>>537123952You can pay attention to them and it becomes clear the atheists aren’t really arguing with us but with God. We are the outlet of their struggle
>>537123952Here are some reasons that point to a higher purpose and a creator.>Human beings the only animals that cook their food.>Human beings must wear clothes. Man must transform himself.>Human beings must be instructed or taught to survive while many animals can walk shortly after being born. Man must be nurtured far longer than other animals. >Human beings have an imagination and can create literally anything from the mental realms.>Human beings have a conscience.>Man is the only being on earth that can question existence.>Man uses symbols and language that other animals don’t. >Human beings alone worship a creator.Anyone got more to add?
>>537127759>Abrahamniggersspoke like a talmudistic insect larvae
>>537126146If you had a computer would a video game appear with it's rules if left plugged in long enough?
>>537127905Can you denounce the Talmud, the Torah and the Tanakh for us, OP?
>>537126701There are decent critics agains christianity, but it seems that is not the case for the shills here
>>537126963It's wrong by white standards, moshe
>>537123952Race and state worship is a form of atheism, same as neopaganism, modern christianity and others manure of the revolution
>>537128204Provided the computer had the means to create a video game, then yes
>>537128155Humans have ostensibly only been like that for a few thousand years. Everything that people on here point to as white superiority basically starts at ancient Greece, for instance.
>>537124557>1923
>>537126290God revealed Himself to you many times. You in your head/heart/voice have said no. He may keep revealing Himself to you before you die or not. An objective rule of God is consent and free will. He will never force anyone to follow Him. He will knock and He will walk away.
>>537123952>larp meme dismissedJulius Streicher was no General, retard.The National Socialists started out friendly towards christianity, tried to reform it>what is "positives Germanisches Christentum"then abandoned it.Would they have won, Germany would have become a holy Pagan nation.
>>537128425https://wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/NSChristianity.html#speech
>>537125175Only whites were blessed by Jove by mirror neurons
>>537125377
>>537128490>An objective rule of God is consent and free will.Let's test that. I don't consent to bending the.knee to your God.
>>537125831>My moral code is based on basic human empathy. I don't do things that would cause others pain,So what...Marquis de Sade enjoyed torturing women to death. Kikes like to torture and kill innocent little Aryan children. QUESTION: Why is "don't cause pain" the 'objectively right' mentality, according to "atheism"?Morality is objetcive, or it ceases to be "moral".
>>537123952>THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS "ATHEISTS"CorrectAtheists don't exist.Didn't read anything else.
>>537128131Everyone know Jews hate Christcucks. The point is that Christcucks need to keep honoring the Jews while they are spitting on you.
>>537126242
>>537126701The support of saulstianity also comes from Jews
>>537128661>Marquis de Sade enjoyed torturing women to death. Kikes like to torture and kill innocent little Aryan children.Torturing and murdering innocent people isn't objectively wrong?>>537128661>QUESTION: Why is "don't cause pain" the 'objectively right' mentality, according to "atheism"?You have a fundamental misunderstanding of what atheism is. >>537128661>Morality is objetcive, or it ceases to be "moral".Is it morally wrong to circumcise a healthy baby?
>>537128500so close..
>>537123952>Everyone knows God exists...they just hate HimThat's to be expected given how much god clearly hates all of us
>>537128537Plenty of nonwhites are also kind to animals. Jains, for instance, are way kinder to animals than any white society has ever been.
>>537128534I studied your wall of text and I noticed that he only mentions "God" after 1933, and not YHWH or rabbi Jeshua. Almost as if he was deist all along
>>537126508Kek. You haven’t seen Christian women then.
>>537125175Exactly, so why do we feel bad for doing wrong? What part of ourselves makes us feel guilty? What is convicting us after we have done wrong? What’s is a conscience? It seems like something apart from ourselves, or at least higher than ourselves.
>>537127780Same. I used to trust academia and I used to believe science was based on evidence and testing, not just popularity contests, flawed speculation and corrupt grant systems. I used to listen to so many atheist thinkers and thought they were all above average intelligence and logical, slowly watching all of them fall victim to the fallacious reasoning and biases they criticized religious people for and then using that fallacious reasoning to justify historically satanic garbage woke me up from that joke as well. It really just takes time and a bit of observation. Slowly, you will watch the world you think you know crumble around you, all revealed as one big pile of human shit. And then you'll start opening your mind to other possibilities and actually begin your journey. At least hopefully you will, you may just end up a fat diabetic atheist fucking a mans ass hole well into your 60s. It's possible
>>537126612Exactly. If you were a programmer and a NPC in your game asked for a divine sign you would patch in some code for it to appear at an optimal time of your choosing.This is outside of the framework of the rules of the game. As God is outside the rules of our world. To the world this patch has always been there. To God it was just added.
>>537128761Jews hate Christ and Christians https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbIRVHCvYVU
>>537127780>christcuck morality is basically what some rabbi tells them
>>537128661Answer, coward kike: >>537125916
>>537127206I have no religious beliefs. If you see that Paul letterd are platonic letters, that the gospels are texts made to reference the literary structure of the old testament, that Yahweh was a thunder god of a semitic pantheon, that judaism didn't start until a few centuries before Jesus... and so on with every single belief, you reach the conclusion that they're stories created by people to convey/inspire a way of living
>>537125916>would you prefer your country be 100% white but 0% christian, or 100% christian but 0% white?Since Scripture tells me to have a 100% White kigndom...I prefer abiding by my Christian beliefs and have a 100% White Christian 'country'.Nice try, Schylock...but I'm a real Christian that has actually read the bible, and believes the Word of God. All of Scripture is important, Kike!
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>>537129004Enjoy being a pedophile
>>537129078How many times is Ezau gambit going to be explained to you
>>537129052>This is outside of the framework of the rules of the game.No it isn't. As the programmer programmed the NPC to ask for the sign.
>>537129143This is a fake image
>>537128984The Gnostics would argue that it's a divine spark from another realm of being, but this doesn't seem to be something that humans have always had nor is it something that all humans have now. So it would appear that it's an emergent thing that is indeed alien to this Earth despite being produced by it. So you could argue that it's an accident that is hostile to the spirit of this planet, or you could argue that it's the logical endpoint that evolution has always been moving towards.
>>537125929>There's no such thing as an atheist because there's nobody who can tell you for a fact that there is no God and prove it.QUESTION: How do you KNOW anything to be absolutely true, apart from relying on God?You just made a truth claim, and I am asking how you can know it to be absolutely true.
>>537129136>Since Scripture tells me to have a 100% White kigndomNo it doesn't lol
>>537129182So according to you,christianity was a psyop created by the jews to control the world... but the also denounce tha psyop on their book and sometimes even in public ?
>>537123952Correct, in this world there are only the Christians and the Pagans. There will be no more pagans soon, only Christians.
>>537129290Truth is unfaithful.
>>537127011Children are more kind then adults on average. It's time spent in this realm that corrupts.
>>537129133>you reach the conclusion that they're stories created by people to convey/inspire a way of living.This is true, but mystics of all faiths noticed that theophany could be brought about by certain practices that are always the same.
>>537129361you are welcome to your personal feelings.
>>537126146>Mathematical truths exist independently of anything that physically exists. They did not come from god. They always were.QUESTION: How do you gain certainty without relying on God?
>>537129393Except what I said isn't personal feelings or opinions :^)
>>537127150A pregnant woman can with no thoughts of her own grow a spinal column for a baby in the womb, a brain, a circular blood system, a heart, optic nerves ect.
>>537129290You can’t prove that anyone exists outside yourself.
>>537123952That's actually a good point. Even in my edgy atheist phase my lack of belief was almost like a "I think God exists but he sucks" kind of thing. Being anti-theist is low-key also being obsessed with God and eventually your knee will bend too
>>537129465you've once again expressed another opinion filled with personal feelings.
The silliest religion of all. Entirely faith based on, based on appeals to authority and the misunderstanding of what is science. Deliberate lies taken up as faith. Remember when they told you that evolution was a thing (lol). That DNA and genes determine form (wrong, they are simple building blocks they determine zipperdy doo dah). The more advanced a lifeform the more genes it has “evolved”. Well it turned out that a bowl of rice has more genes than you or i. A water flea has more genes than a human. The lovable nematode has more. So the cardinals of the official religion dubbed the results “junk dna”.And dinosaurs lived a quagillion years ago and because they farted and climate change and covid got them they transformed into owls. (Bullshit).DNA does not determine form. Science, real science knows this but you aren’t being told. Instead THE RELIGION that started as a lie and became faith continues to be rammed down your neck. We know what determines form, its entirely natural and we can recreate it. Animals can be transformed from one species (bird say) into another (iguana, say for example) by a simple entirely natural process. Organs can now be grown on animals that naturally would not have those organs, like eyes on flatworms or tadpoles (been done). Fully functioning organs with all the necessary changes to allow the animal to use the organs so NOT like that abomination ear-mouse you saw a few years back.I’m not going into the method, i know someone who will and i’ll leave it to them to do it, but there never was an evolution, there are no space aliens and the cult forced by bots through things like reddit was always cretinous and if you fell for it then it should he a warning to you of the massive power of brainwashing and human herd instincts. Never, ever look at the media again. Never gape, not even once more. Or… continue to be a fool, in the dark until the day you die. But what then? Spocks never coming to save you he doesn’t exist.
>>537124074/thread
>>537129594And it just so happens that my statement"Truth is unfaithful" is true If not, can you explain why?
>>537129586If the Abrahamic god exists he's worth opposing.
>>537127286Me feeding a cat offers no reward other then joy that the cat is happy. Why do I feel joy? Why do I feel love to another species? Why do I feel joy when a plant I grow thrives rather then see it as a means to eat?
>>537126290>God is real and he has ordained that I will be an atheist.God has given you the free will to choose stupidity. If you wnat to know why God would create a being like you, then the Christian answer is always the same: Everything God does/allows to happen is for His glory.God created you knowing you'd post that retarded comment. When I was younger I posted similar retarded comments to the people around me, and now I am a Christian capable of discerning just how fucking stupid your argument is. I don't know if you'll get saved before you die or not. God does. But even if you don't, and go straight to Hell for eternity...I will know it was all for His glory, and I will cheer: ALLELUIA!
>>537129521But it took thought to become pregnant. Human females don't give birth without having intercourse or medical intervention.
>>537126146The mathematical laws did not exist prior to the beginning of the universe. Therefore we know that they were created. God is the Creator.>>537129660>And it just so happens that my statement, "Truth is unfaithful" is true.In your feelings sure it's subjectively true to you. It's not objectively true which is what matters.>>537129683Netanyahu, Epstein & Trump agree with you here.
>>537129279>brings up Gnosticism >is defending evolutionBuy an ad. You’re lazily attempting to justify evolution as a valid explaination while ignoring that in order for evolution to sound logically coherent requires the benefits of selection pressure producing moral reasoning to be objectively beneficial, proving it to be epistemic and thusly universally ordered not just metaphysical drivel. Debunking evolution in the process because it’s contingent of long periods of unverifiable time and carbon dating anything but the rocks that would verify how old shit actually is.
>>537129774You are a literal demon. Kill yourself.
>>537126508The king james bible is the Word of God.
>>537129900Again,>>537129660>If not, can you explain why?
>>537129939Incorrect, he is a son of God. Non-Christians however are still enslaved by sin and demons.
>>537129913>You’re lazily attempting to justify evolution as a validAbsolutely not! I’m promoting teleology.
>>537129900>The mathematical laws did not exist prior to the beginning of the universeHow do you know?
>>537129995WHO CARES WHAT GOD THINKS LOOK AT THE CHILD RAPE DUNGEON PARTY TM EARTHWHO THE FUCK WOULD WORSHIP YOUR EVIL GOD LOL
>>537130023>Incorrect, he is a son of God.You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
Schizo thread
>>537129387The problem is that it's a completely subjective experience that explains certain psychological experiences through literary archetypes.I think that there's also a lot of brain chemistry going on, specially with practices that involve mind altering substances, specially deliriants
>>537129913I brought both up as viewpoints to consider. That's what open-minded people do. They consider multiple viewpoints. They don't just blindly follow some book written thousands of years ago.
>>537129900STOP FUCKING LYING LMAOTHEYRE ALL JEWS THAT WORSHIP ELEL = ADONAIEL = JESUSEL IS A CHILD RAPING NIGGERITS ALL THE SAME SHIT ALL RE LIE GION IS A SCAM TO GET JEBUS'S DICK UP YOUR BUTT AND GET YOU TO LIKE IT
>>537129900> The mathematical laws did not exist prior to the beginning of the universeNope, mathematical laws existed before the universe. And would exist even if there was nothing.
>>537130023>Non-Christians however are still enslaved by sin and demons.wait til you meet christians
>>537129279The conscience DID come from another realm.
>>537127635What standards are impossible? Physically it's a request for self restraint in some areas of your life.Be loyalBe honestBe soberBe generousBe lovingBe forgivingApologize if you mess up and try againThe one that seems hard is "Faith". Faith that even if you don't understand the benefits that it will work out.Faith can be obtained by being humble and asking God to help you understand even if you aren't sure He will answer. He answered for me so I no longer operate under blind Faith. Knowledge I never had gets downloaded into me to help me understand these concepts better and better.To your mind you will assume I'm lying. I would ask you to don't knock it til you try it.If you throw up your hands and refuse to engage that is you exercising your free will to reject God. God will accept your rejection and leave you alone, in this life and the next.
>>537123952Yes and everyone knows christianity is Not true deep down because if they really believed in hell existing they wouldn’t behave selfishly
>>537128010We are being replaced in our own countries, thats not peace, thats an invasion which you have been fooled into not fighting back against. All of this could have been avoided if we allied with Hitler against the Soviets.
>>537130006There is nothing to refute or dismantle, it's just your personal emotions.>>537130073The universe and everything inside of it all had beginnings, and so we know that all of it is created.>>537130147You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
Yahweh was the original Epstein>inb4 millstone verse, the 'little ones' were not literal children but new believers
>>537130172Because both views are espousing time ranges. >and this means I’m more magnanimous than you are I don’t need to pretend to be impartial when I’m honestly arguing what I believe.
>>537129586there is no god. humans are not special.>>537129764the cat isn't happy. it is hungry. you make yourself happy and satisfy your ego by feeding the cat. the ego constructs this thing called the "self" (which isn't real) and this attachment you all have to this self is the reason for your suffering. you should read up on Buddhist philosophy and maybe your retarded Christian worldview will stop confusing you.
I just hate Abrahamic cucks equating a force that is Godlike to their retarded schizo stories. It's a blasphemy to that true force. Some sandnigger babble and sub 100 IQ mental weaklings believing in fairytales doesn't mean God can't exist.
>>537130266HE IS LITERALLY JEFFREY EPSTEINADONAI IS LIKE IMU FROM 1 PIECEHE TAKES YOU OVER 99% LEAVING THE 1% OF YOU IN EXCHANGE FOR POWERJESUS IS A CHILD RAPING NIGGERWHO WAS THE NAKED YOUTH IN THE GARDEN JESUS ?
>>537130261>and so we know that all of it is created.but not designed, yes. there is no intelligent creator and to think there is is simply wishful thinking. pure speculation to help you cope with the obvious truth: there is no reason to any of this, and your life really doesn't matter. this is hard for many people to accept and religion is the only answer - no matter how stupid it sounds - to you all. i get it; it is hard and sad to think that you, a grand human, isn't actually as special as you might think.
>>537130152>I think that there's also a lot of brain chemistry going on, specially with practices that involve mind altering substances, specially deliriantsI agree with this sentiment, but it’s better not to use any drugs for the experience.
>>537130288>I don’t need to pretend to be impartial when I’m honestly arguing what I believe.I don't pretend to definitively know the mysteries of the universe.
>>537130222If it did, then humans haven't always had it to the level we do now and I don't think higher-level animals (primates, cetaceans, elephants, etc.) are incapable of having it or at least incapable of developing to a point where they have it. There isn't much difference, if any, between a high-level animal and a low-level human. Maybe this is more of a reincarnation argument though.
>>537130152>>537130575you can use binaural beats / hemi-sync if you don't want to use drugs, by the way
>>537130205So American laws existed before America? This is basically your logic.Every law requires a lawmaker that instituted it. The laws that govern this universe physically were set in place with the creation of the universe.>>537130419I do not agree with your opinion since I care about logic & truth and these qualities are rooted in Yahweh.To separate oneself from God is to separate oneself from truth & logic.
>>537127085>Then crossing the steeet is subjective.Tomorrow is not today.>So is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?I thought I answered this already. What do you mean by "objective"? Because the Christian worldview holds God as THE STANDARD by which we may determine objective morality.
>>537130767>humans haven't always had a conscience to the level we do now Yes. Human. Wings have only had a conscience for approximately 6,000 years. Adam and Eve were the first human beings to gain a conscience, having descended from the Divine.
>>537130608>truth is unknowable Just like how you will always aggressively imply it isn’t with your tactically inadequate feigned neutrality. Suggesting Gnosticism and then a proponent of evolution which came from a fraternal source. You people would have an easier time recruiting others to your dogshit philosophy literally constructed out of the ontology of Satan’s lie if you were just honest about it.Here’s a mind boggling idea, there are no secrets, God doesn’t hide shit from you, your ego flat out does.
>>537130195You seem a bit unhinged, anon. You should take some time and get some rest, maybe drink some water.
>>537130821>you can use binaural beats / hemi-sync if you don't want to use drugs, by the wayI have a few of those from the Monroe Institute!
The worst thing you can do is engage with Christcucks because that is actually there only reason for posting.They themselves don't believe the things they are saying. They just post online as a way to find an outlet from the aggressive impulses which they cannot fulfill otherwise. So when you see a Christcuck engaged in some nonsensical and pointless 'debate' consisting of flinging insults back and forth, they are actually experiencing a temporary, but immense, satisfaction at having finally an outlet for their repressed emotions. This satisfaction they feel is what they take as 'proof' of the validity of their religion. To put it in another way, if they had no one to argue with or attack, they would stop being Christcucks and find some other way to argue with people.
>>537124478>seething over 10,000 year old events involving tribalistic groups that don't exist anymore.Man, you must be fun to be around.
>>537130575Even thinks like meditation, reciting mantras, listening to music and so on alter, together with self-suggestion alter the brain chemistry.So there's this problem with the subjective, people create stories based on this experiences, trying make them coherent together as a people, creating cosmologies and giving them feedback to develop them, creating metaphysical views that are perfectly coherent.The issue is that these metaphysical views completely deny each other, completely make sense within their own internal logic and can't disprove each other.This is why natural philosophy developed into natural science
>>537131028I'm not recruiting anyone to anything.>>537131074based
>>537127161>Yes, of courseEarlier you stated:>Morality is entirely subjective
>>537131195All atheists should try heroin. It will be the best thing they can ever know.
>>537124557logic tells me that anyone telling me how the creator and master of all thinks, is a retarded faggot at best and a manipulative faggot at worst.
>>537128500Julius Streicher was a Gruppenführer in the SA, kike. That rank roughly translates to Major General or Lieutenant General.
>>537130261>There is nothing to refute or dismantleBecUse I'm right :^)>>537130261>The universe and everything inside of it all had beginningsSure. What that beginning was is still unknown >>537130261>You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinionsYou almost get it
Reminder that Whites are the ancient Israelites.>Assyria conquers and annexes Israel>Israelites go north into Caucasus>Go west into Europe>They become known as the Cimmerians, Scythians, Saxons and various Germanic celtic tribes>One of God's curses was that the Israelites would forget their heritage until Christ would come>Jesus says He came for the lost tribes of Israel aka white people>It is exactly in white European nations where Christianity spreads the mostThe kikes are Edomites aka Idumeans which would later become the Khazarians. They are the Synagogue of Satan, who falsely claim to be Jews. The hook nose was a common feature among the children of Esau/Edom. They intermingled with the Canaanites whereas the children of Jacob (white people) remained pure.This is why kikes hate white people. Know your history, read the Old Testament.
>>537123952there's an Israeli behind this memeflag
>>537131195There may be an objective reality but humans are incapable of directly perceiving it. The entirety of what we perceive around us is a controlled hallucination informed by our genetics and our culture, and literally every human is perceiving a different one even within the same civilization.
>>537131195>This is why natural philosophy developed into natural scienceIt developed into psychology which uses drugs to alter otherwise natural brain chemistry. Everything is subjective with or without Natural Philosophy or Psychology. Psychologist William Wundt was the first to begin blacklisting Natural Philosophers and scientists that included “soul” in their journal entries. Your brain is always running on “chemicals” even without drugs.
>>537130907>Tomorrow is not todayWhich implies change. Change in morality means it's subjective >>537130907>>So is circumcision of a healthy baby objectively wrong?>I thought I answered this alreadyYou didn't >>537130907>What do you mean by "objective"?As in it has always been morally wrong, regardless of personal feelings and opinions
>>537125377>>537128131o/ OPI only have one critique: the person in the above pictures is not Adolf Hitler.
>>537127339>Is it evil to kill jewish children?Depends....did God command their deaths? Did the killing happen by accident?It is wrong to commit murder.
>>537131592>It is wrong to commit murderLike murdering children?
>>537130227>Be loyal >Be honest >Be sober >Be generous >Be loving >Be forgiving >Apologize if you mess up and try again I already strive to do all these things and don't need a god to tell me. It's self evident through reason that if everyone did these things, life would improve for everyone, so I ought to do them as well.>Faith can be obtained by being humble and asking God to help you understand even if you aren't sure He will answer. I have tried praying and nothing happened. Yes it's true; don't mistake me for one to dismiss something without even trying it. I reached out in the darkest time of my life and no one answered. I prayed with all my heart's might for the peace and happiness of certain individuals in my life and it never came. No one answered or intervened and in the end the situation only got worse. The only thing that got better is that I learned to accept that no god was looking out for us, no god was helping us, we are truly on our own in this universe. As a result I've learned to build my own morality based on that which I wish to see in the world, and upon that framework I've built my own happiness. The true source of profound happiness is for you to live a life that you yourself finds admirable.>He answered for me so I no longer operate under blind Faith.If that's true, then it would suggest that God is real but he ignores certain people and manifests for others which would make him arbitrary and not worthy or worship. That's not to say I am angry or resentful, any more than the ant is angry and resentful that beings millions of times larger and mightier than they are can step on them or ignore them arbitrarily. I, like them, will continue living the life that's in front of me to the best of my ability.
>>537131236You’re “randomly” advertising two viewpoints that don’t actually contradict each other epistemically to look impartial despite being an agent with innate bias. I didn’t hide my viewpoint behind debate rhetoric for unnecessary decorum on a shitlogging forum, you clearly did. You may not be a member, but you are literally proposing ideas that categorically align with what they believe, honorary by ignorance.
>>537127474>Define “truth.”As a Christian I always answer: 'that which comports with the mind of God'But if you are too sensitive to that definition, I will happily olige: 'that which is real'
>>537123952Cool cope.
>>537131807>As a Christian I always answer: 'that which comports with the mind of GodWho determines what the "mind of God" is?>that which is realBased on who's perspective of what "real" is?
Atheists and LARPagans are retarded race traitors.Christianity is the white man's religion. This is the Faith of your ancestors, it turned Europe from a backwater shithole into the #1 powerhouse and envy of the world.
>>537127845>morals are opinions and not absolute truths.QUESTION: Is it absolutely wrong for a Kike to sexually torture and kill a small Aryan child for the sheer fun of it?
>>537131754Okay, and? I'm not dogmatically opposed to them for some religious reason, so considering their paradigms doesn't bother me.
>>537131496>>537131502This is why the field of study was reduced to what can be operated and replicated by everyone with the same results.An universal experience that can't be logically denied.>Inb4 replicability crisis This just shows how vast parts of psychology and other has moved outside of science for ideological reasons mostly
>>537131930>Christians once again claiming that Christianity invented Western civilization instead of Greek pagans
>>537127967Is it absolutely wrong for a Kike to sexually torture, maim, and slaughter a small Aryan child for the sheer fun of it?...or is just mere opinion? [pic related]
>>537132001Murdering children is objectively wrong, even when your God commanded it>>537132242Yup
>>537132287how about a deformed child that will inevitably live a waking nightmare?
>>537132287Kids are not above God Almighty.
>>537123952settle down buddy, you are rotting flesh and no amount of professing a belief in a magical non-entity is going to save you from your inevitable demise https://drive.proton.me/urls/BPCR3JGKWG#Np4Mcu2Uzkvg
>>537128218>Can you denounce the Talmud, the Torah and the Tanakh for us, OP?I am a bible-believing Christian, and because I am...I can smell your retarded kike 'gotcha!' questions a mile away. Lord Jesus Christ is the same Almighty God of the OT as well as the NT. One God...which you Kikes rejected even when He stood, in the flesh, right inf ront of your faces. You killed Him, and took upon the curse thereof.I am a Christian White National Socialist Monarchist...because I have actually read Scripture, and believe Him. I condemn the Talmudic Mafia and all of your 'good goys' that serve The Snake along with you! You are Edomites! I am Jacob!...and you know it, Berkowitz!
>>537132084You’re assuming my worldview requires religion, you do realize that the Bible flat out implies that nothing man can do from a moral position can fix the issue Christ is addressing with his own ontology correct? Genesis 3 explains that man is ensnared in a moral dialectic due to his moral autonomy and becomes corrupted by the knowledge of evil. The problem isn’t free will, it’s being misaligned with Gods ontology that’s the issue. This is why priests crucified God using the law. They’re just evil men pretending to be good. It’s satanic. God doesn’t want people to mimic him when they’re incapable of fixing the problem. So religion and secularism are just doing this for deceptive reasons, they seemingly defer but are spiritually the same. One externalizes guilt, the other internalizes it. It’s why history reflects the same cyclical nature of society.
>>537132677>my worldview doesn't require religion>source: the Bible
>>537132489Has the child been born?
>>537132507this book made me feel bad
>>537132823>Religion actively opposes God Since when are religion and God synonyms? Atheists can tell you flat out that they know the difference because the blatantly deny one of them exists while reacting to the other.
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>>537124557>absolute truths This is how I can tell you never attended uni.
>>537133023goddammithttps://youtu.be/TRJ_s2G76Hg
>>537132824Murdering kid is no different than eating. If anything, they should taste more delicious than a worthless adult full of sins.
>>537132889you should feel bad you piece of shit
>>537128281>It's wrong by white standards, mosheSo you say it's not always wrong....it's just your opinion.As a Christian White I can say it is ALWAYS wrong. See...the thing is this: If I walked up to Jews and asked them, they would have no problem stating that it's 'wrong according to the Whites standard'.....but they wouldn't say it's 'always wrong'. It's not a guaruntee that [pic related], but let's just say it's an easy test to sift through the obvious Kikes infesting any forum.You stink of Kikery SO BAD, that I could smell you coming even if I were upwind of you.
>>537133093NO U
>>537132934Synonyms for religion center on systems of faith, belief, and worshipAnd who is it that the religious have faith, belief in and who do they worship?God or gods
>>537132934>>537133203to be fair, Buddhism is an atheistic religion not to mention things like Communism
>>537128297I'll stick with what God says, thanks. God tells me not to listen to retarded 'christians' promoting Kike bullshit. The Kikes are pleased with you, and are *still* going to chew your ugly face off. [see pic rleated]
>>537133264>pic* "Christians" * Kikes'
>>537133259Buddha worships Karma as the absolute Truth.
>>537133259Correct, religion is not about God. Proving they’re not synonyms.
>>537133259Buddhism is more accurately described as nontheistic rather than atheistic
>>537123952if there is a god it sure as hell isn't the abrahemic one
>>537133480>religion is not about God.Hmm>>537133203>Synonyms for religion center on systems of faith, belief, and worship>And who is it that the religious have faith, belief in and who do they worship?>God or gods
>>537133480I didn't say they were synonyms. 99% of the people on here arguing for a monotheistic / panentheistic god are religious though, and are explicitly arguing for the Abrahamic god. >>537133461Karma isn't a god though. It's akin to gravity. >>537133490Buddhism straight up says there isn't a capital-G God.
>>537128425Oh Hitler had a lot of problems...mainly being Roman Catholic. It's no wonder he had all sorts of misunderstandings regarding Christianity. I have a great deal of sympathy for Roman Catholics, but Roman Catholicism is not Christian...it's another perversion of Christianity.Hitler focused on Germans, whereas I have greatlove for ALL Whites...even if they are backslidden "christians" needing a good spanking back in line with Lord Jesus Christ.Hitler also declared war on America. So I have no qualms with discussing Hitler's mistakes, because I am in no way deifying the man. I'm just pointing out that I stand by my memes regarding Christianity & the Third Reich.
>>537133543If God creates everything, does he need religion ontologically? No. How is this revelatory to you? You assume via causal reasoning from inside a context he created that he relies on anything at all. It’s God. The irony I have faced with people claiming that God being a self referential being is circular reasoning and then they call me narrow minded is deafening. Physics do not need to have God adhere to them.
>>537133729Buddha certainly believe that Karma as something above God Almighty.>all things are subjected to the law of karma
>>537123952Oh look more janitor-TPUSA sanctioned Chtistcuck agit prop.
>>537133729Sure but my answer doesn't change
>>537128604Roman Catholicism is not Christian...it's a perversion of Christianity. My God commands me to stone Kikes to death in a very public, bloody manner...and to get the entire community involved. Hitler made many errors in judgement, and I in no way deify Him.....but I can still reference the vast amounts of good he did for the world as a "christian".
>>537133914The laws of reality don't equate to a god if those laws aren't a being with a personality and a will. Brahman in Hinduism or "the Source" in Western esotericism ultimately isn't a god either.
>>537133863>If God creates everything, does he need religion ontologically? NoWe do to make the faith that requires this belief more palatable.>>537133863>How is this revelatory to you?It isn't. >>537133863>he created that he relies on anything at allHe relies on our belief
>>537134027How is it not atheistic if it actively denies the existence of a god? Isn't that definitionally what atheism is?
>>537128297>Race worship is a form of atheismOh look a brown Christcuck revealing his final Globohomo form.
>>537133729Mankind maybe religious, But God isn’t. As for denying that you explicitly said it. You were more than capable of using greentext correctly. Have you no integrity here? I’m just some fucking retard with a computer, these anons are no different, you’ll never meet any of us and here you are blatantly denying an epistemic proponent of reality for nothing more than sheer ego because I’m calling you out for trying to dodge an implication you categorically made earlier. Come on dude.
>>537134141That's buddha words. He said it. It's in buddha scripture, it's canon (literally called Pāli Canon).
>>537132824two children.one born and one not.
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>>537134192Because it stil relies on dogma. Atheism doesn't
>>537131474 >there's an Israeli behind this memeflagThe meme flag (OP) and the Brazil flag are the same spam bot. Their other thread just reached 400 posts so this is the new one
>>537128686>Everyone know Jews hate Christcucks. The point is that Christcucks need to keep honoring the Jews while they are spitting on you.Christians that have actually read the bible, and believe Him, would understand that those who bless the Jews are acursed......that Chrstians are Jacob. Those faggotas that call themselves 'israel' are Edomites.I'm just wondering why you are regurgitating Kike propaganda about who those Kikes really are? (rhetorical question)
>>537133765We probably have more evidence he was a Protestant rather than a Catholic. We have, what, 1 or 2 quotes attributed to or about him being Catholic?
>>537134321Your dogma is relied on your worthless perception, and you have never try cocain. How can you know that Heaven does not exist? Cocain will send you to Heaven.
>>537134213>you are blatantly denying an epistemic proponent of realityI will direct you to my first post: >>537124116
>>537123952julius streicher was literally and with evidence a low IQ dullard and a loser, though hes kinda right
>>537134284>one born Murder>not bornAbortion
>>537134481To be fair, even though he had the lowest IQ of the people measured in the Nuremberg trials, it was still in midwit range.
>>537134481106 is 11 points higher than Israel's average IQ
>>537134498thanks for answering
>>537124833Checked and Politeiapilled
>>537128828So called "atheists" would disagree with you.
>>537134455>if a lie is consistent enough it is true.
>>537134455>competing forcesyou smuggled in discrete particulars, invariance, agency, teleology and the rational intelligibility of nature. major metaphysical inconsistencies that a naturalist atheist worldview is fundamentally incapable of addressing.if you're a LARPing Platonist, that's different, but that comes with it's own issues
>>537134697Thank you for the question. It's a good one.
>>537134732You're welcome to argue against it.
>>537134775I didn't claim to be a naturalist. The use of "eternal" should have implied that.
>>537134715most atheists are agnostics that don't care to think about it.
>>537134775Beat me to it.
>>537129133Is it absolutely true your religious beliefs are not your religious beliefs.?
>>537135078Agnostic atheism
>>537135103I don't know how many more times I have to say that atheism =/= physicalism. All of the popular theistic arguments for a god are just arguments against physicalism. Buddhism is just one example of how you can explain away all those arguments without a god.
>>537123952I've come to doubt my Christian faith, but I absolutely believe in supernatural forces. I can't really tell if it's because of the state cückholdry, and the message of genocidal universalism that's fueling this, or it's general despondency at my own circumstances that's responsible. >tl;dr is it the Christians, or the Christianity? the world, our race's perilous conditions, my own misery, and abandonment... doesn't really compute a world with a loving God, are Gnostics correct?
>>537129294I'm not joining your tower of babel, Schlomo.
>>537135375>I have no biblical backing I know
>>537129361Not according to God.
>>537135193>I can't read!Beyond stupid post. Religion implies religare, to relink the soul (as Christians understand it) with the Christian god. Which again is a literary and oral construct (written Torah and oral Torah) that comes from a previous semitic polytheism, as I've explained previously.
>>537135475I know. Lol
>>537135295“I don’t need God.”“Cool. What grounds the order you’re using?”“Buddhism.”“Cool. What grounds Buddhism’s order?”“Atheism isn’t physicalism!”“Nobody asked.”Voices in the fedoras : heard
>>537129555>You can’t prove that anyone exists outside yourself.That's a truth statement which collapses under it's own weight. If it's true, then it's false...therefore it's false.
>>537135576Cocaine is 1000x better than sex. The science said it, every junkies approve of it.
>>537135604exactlybuddhism is an odd pivot considering the non-Western versions posit the existence of myriad spirits and supernatural beings with agency and personalities.it's arguably the furthest thing from atheism
>>537135604Yeah, I have no need for this disingenuous debate bro shit. You're not here to have an actual conversation with anyone.
>>537123952if god exists where is the evidence? everyone is born an atheist, the only reason you are christian is because late-ancient/medieval royals spread it around cuz it was so effective to control the masses, just like any other religion nobody seriously believed it and nobody does now
>>537135894Those spirits and supernatural beings are just as equally not a capital-G God as you or I am.
>>537135960This entire world is the evidence of God.
>>537123952Christgayness is brown coded kike worship.
>>537136067Of course. God always win at the end.
>>537135933>enters thread discussing the ultimate nature of reality>asked to justify presuppositions of his claim>mayn fuck all dis disingenuous debate bro sheeeeitok, bye, faggotyou won't be missed
>>537135933>Absolutely pure projection at this point. Your reasoning is based on several loaded presumptions that constantly swap categories, all I’ve done is argue from necessary ontology. What did you expect me to do? Randomly abandon the fact that without objectivity subjectivity cannot be derived with epistemic thinking?
>>537127177It's actually in the jew part of the book, so *all* abrahamists eat from that poisonous tree.
>>537136198>Your reasoning is based on several loaded presumptions. Just like your belief in your favorite flavor of God
>>537130124"Evil" is that which does not comport with God. So you are trying to argue 'god isn't being godly'. Interesting argument.....HYPOTHETICAL:You walk into a diner and see a man stab a small innocent child in the throat with a knife as people scream on in shock. God 'could have' stopped that man from doing it, but allowed it to happen. QUESTION: Does it make God "evil" to allow that man to stab that child? Yes or No
>>537136335>"Evil" is that which does not comport with God>7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
>>537126508>i have to>i have to>i have to QUUUUOOOOOOOTE!
>>537136326Jesus ignored Herod. For the same reason I always ignore you.Now hurry up with your sassy one liner rhetoric.
>>537130235Apart from relying on the Christian God of the bible..how do you KNOW anything you THINK to be true, actually is true?In other words...how can you account for how you know anything to be absolutely certain?
>>537136454>For the same reason I always ignore you
>>537136198You don't need a god to argue that existence is eternal or that consciousness has an immaterial basis or anything else of that nature. All you have to do is reject mainstream physicalism, which quantum science is already doing from a completely atheistic (or at least secular) lens. That whole niche has basically replaced continental philosophy now that it's been taken over by analytic philosophy that has no interest in these questions.
>>537136605You are the Todd Howard of debate atheism. >It just tips
>>537136518Everyone who is conscious knows that they're conscious, and thus that they exist. Everything else relies on the cultivation and comparison of sensory data that we know to be flawed even in the best case scenario.
>>537136786>doesn't have any legitimate arguments Kek
>>537136786I'm not quite enough of a nerd to understand what you meant by that.
>>537136605I think that the immaterial is real if it is operative.For example, math is immaterial but real, being the language that describes the relationship between material objects
