Is Trump's Iran deal objectively any better than Obama's?
>>537138214We're giving them $12 billion just to start talking for nothing.
>>537138214neither deal guarantees the total genocide of mudshits
>>537138214It's a lot better for Iran that's for sure
>>537138214No
>>537138305Well, that's a good first step to restoring the status quo ante bellum. You destroyed more than $12B worth of stuff in Iran
It just is, you lost tranny
>>537138214>Is Trump's Iran deal objectively any better than Obama's?Yes. It's more funny.
>>537138861Keep winning its hilarious
>>537138214>be leftist>still can't criticize kikesabsolute state of democratniggers
>>537138861They're not even trying to justify their mental illness anymore.
300 billion and no ongoing inspections is much worse than Obama
reminder that the u.s. is not giving them one penny, is not removing sanctions, and is getting all their uranium.
>>537141160If by not one penny, you mean you 300 billion in tax payer money, then yes
>>537138214There is no deal yetAll we have is Trump's word on it and he's lied about it dozens of times before
>>537141237not one penny. you can provide no real source of the u.s. giving them money or pledging to give them u.s. money (except during the boybongo and biden presidencies).
>>537138214Depends on the contents, as little to nothing is known nor set in stone yet.That said, unlike Obama he is making a deal from a position of genuine strength rather than bullshitting himself about soft power and corrupt dysfunctional international structures, so it is really not that unlikely that he's got a shot at an actual good deal.And if not, well, Israel is itching to continue the war, Russia still has its hands tied, China and India suffer more from Iran's actions than the USA does and the EU... well yeah, let's just euphemistically say our hands are tied too, because of Ukraine of course, not due to our advanced state of decay and incompetence...But yeah, to reiterate: I do expect an actual, better deal.
>>537141555You're in denial. We're distinctly giving them 300 billion in reparations Sticking your fingers in your ears and saying LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU changes nothing
>>537142049i accept your complete and total concession.
>>537142049How's that rebuilding of Gaza coming along by the way?
>>537141160>not giving them one pennyUhm $300 billion is a lot of pennies actually miggerbro
>>537138214Objectively, it's worse for the US
>>537141635>That said, unlike Obama he is making a deal from a position of genuine strengthAre you fucking retarded? Have you seen how fast was he burning through their SPR? At this rate it was looking like 1973 tier oil shortages by fucking october, Trump surrendered because he's desperate, $300 billion is just the number the iranians asked for
>>537142430Lmao.Mate we didn't even reach ATH for oil, if it were a genuine squeeze prices would not be like this (nor would Trump risk the resetves if he wasn't certain he could replace them, they are not for market stabilisation).The truth is much simpler: Time has roundly caught up with Iran's strategies in a variety of ways:- Its allies are much more vulnerable to its trump card than its enemies- Green tech bullshit did manage to reduce the impact- The gulf countries had contingencies in place- The market has long since priced their infantile rage inAnd then i'm probably forgetting some.No, if anything Trump has demonstrated that he was not in a hurry, taking his sweet time to negotiate (how many times did he make claims about the negotiations again?) when he could have just bombed relentlessly if he were in a hurry.- The markets
>>537142194Wouldn't know. Probably not well
>>537138305Actually we’re giving them 300 billion + unfreezing 24 billion in assets
>>537142919Precisely.That's the thing: Money comes with strings attached, conditions of whoch you can be almost certain that the sandniggers will break leaving them yet again with nothing.And if they don't break them?Well then that is literally going according to plan for the money-providers.
Draft the zoomers into iran cmon wtf
>>537142801>No, if anything Trump has demonstrated that he was not in a hurry,>he just gave them strait of Hormuz and $300 billions because how /calm/ he was about burning through 10% of their SPR every monthSure buddy, keep the cope coming you're going to need it
>>537143213...Why bother?It's a desert country with vulnerable population centres, not some rugged mujahedeen but rather a decadent LARP version thereof.Just cut off the water and the like and enjoy the show, all they'll have available to drink is eachothers' blood. No point in sending them some moist zoomers to drink.
>>537138214/pol/ is dead. Controlled and run by /ptg/. No one even posts real proof even when larping as opposition. /pol/ became fake and gay. Trump is using Qatar and UAE to funnel billions to Iran already. Notice how /ptg/ goes from pearl clutching pallets of cash by Obama to “wtf I love 6 billion and lifted sanctions”Not to mention Trump oversaw the first and only combat loss of an F35 and China has shown they can pick off MQ9’s, F-15’s and even F-35’s with shoulder fired missiles FFS. This will go down as the worst military blunder since Carter or even the Bay of Pigs failure. >Something something jeets and groyper talking points and gay Trump memes. Not a single decent apu in over a year. Sad. This peace deal will last until the midterms and then blow up big time. Buckle Up faggots. >the bobody
>>537143130I fully expect Israel to breach the deal soon. They can't stop attacking lebanon.Doesn't make the deal any less stupid though
>>537140574Mental illness? You're one to talk TDS tranny, go see a psychicatrist or whatever you libtards do
>>537143412You'd think that after Gaza and Lebanon you'd have learned your lesson kek.Pretrnse just makes the dawning of reality hit you harder, or as we say here: "De kater komt later"; the hangover arrives later.
>>537143467Hmm, maybe, Israel is full of sandniggers too, but the thing is their enemies are consistently worse and if you've paid attention you could have noticed that they always wait to retaliate.Ergo if Hezbollah keeps attacking then Israel can keep doing so too despite any deal, even Trump has acknowledged that despite his frustrations.
>>537138214OBAMNA WAS A SECRET MUSLIM NAMED SADDAM HUSSEIN OSAMA BIN LADENTHE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE IRANNY PROBLEM IS OCCUPYING TEHRAN AND OPENING MCDONALDS IN THE AMERICAN EMBASSY THE AYATOLLAH STORMED IN 1979 THAT FUCKER
>>537143531>You'd think that after Gaza and Lebanon you'd have learned your lesson kek.I did, Israel controls neither of those territories and they're currently getting droned in both of them. Maybe that's one reason why Trump just capitulated and gave Iran $300 billion of US taxpayer money and control over Hormuz, although the main reason was the petroleum reserves being at their all time lowest and lowering still every week
>>537143900Yes if you get creative with goal posts you can always pretend to win kek, but doing it so transparantly just makes it funny to everybody else. Or do you really expect me to pretend that winners can get genocided? Or "genocided" if you are so inclined.But hey enjoy the drinks my man, i'll see you on the morrow too again, as i have before.
>>537144166>you can always pretend to win kekWhat's there to pretend, Trump offered them $300 billion in "reconstruction funds" and the only thing he gets in return is the strait of Hormuz open (ships have to pay "environment fees" to Iran tho lmao). We're way past that, Trump lost and the entire world is laughing, now we have to figure out why he surrendered. I say SPR getting apocaliptically low
>>537143682Iran doesn't have lobbyists controlling my government. I hate Israel way more.
>>537144340This is Spain's fault for refusing the air space
>>537144396I hate Iran more for roughly the same reason, so fair enough.Lobbyists, criminals, intelligence guys; same difference.>>537144340I'll give this a proper response semi-soon, filling my bathtub since this talk about the ME reminded me i have dead sea bathsalt that i'm gonna use.I presume it's produced in Isrel but i have no certainty, brand's "Lagosal" and local distribution is in Barendrecht.
>>537144340See my initial response (>>537141635) aswell as the Gaza comment (>>537142194 and >>537143130).Also it remains funny that you chanceless types think your laughter or cries matter at all, if the opinion of the world mattered Ukraine (for example) would not still be getting savaged daily by Russia.But sadly no one has yet managed to make our chattering class understand that, and so the pretense goes on and on even as they bemoan the ruined state of their favourite "winners".As you aptly illustrate.
>>537145010>>537145827Why not drop a toaster in that bathtub too, Jewboy?
>>537138214It's better for Iran if enacted (it won't)
