>found a company that has literally NEVER, NOT ONCE turned a profit>become trillionaire>/pol/ supports thisI'm sorry but this is the most Jewish thing ever. You're telling me He's the richest man alive all because of a company that literally isn't profitable?Jewish.
>>537147890You don't have to buy anything from him btw. It doesn't really affect your life.
>>537147890You don't get it.His plucky AI startup team that is a full year+ behind Anthropic has infinite growth potential!
>>537147972Good thing I never have.
>>537147890He has founded several companies that have never turned a profit.
I have always supported eliminating all social programs and entitlements and funding NASA.
Jews do all the work, goyim just rub their palms with all the cash money women they get.Gentiles are like animals compared to jews
>>537147890Eloy should have never gotten rich. PayPal should never have been a private endeavor. I'm all for inventors who literally change the world getting rich but FUCK people getting rich off of utterly inevitable shit like a mother fucking internet credit card processor or an internet store. That shit does not take genius, literally whoever puts together the 1st one that works decently will get rich as fuck. CS undergraduates can build copies of PayPal and Amazon ffs
>>537147890Why are you mad jeet? He didn't fall for one of your shitty scams?
>>537147890companies being profitable at IPO hasn't been a thing for a long time
Plenty of companies on the market have great stock value without profits. Netflix, Uber, any of the A.I ones lol etc. Amazon did not have a profit when they had their IPO you invest in the future.
>>537147890>found a company that has literally NEVER, NOT ONCE turned a profitlike paypal?like space x?like tesla?like the boring company?like tits?
>>537147890>found a company that has literally NEVER, NOT ONCE turned a profityes it has, retard
>>537148208>CS undergraduates can build copies of PayPal and Amazon ffsand yet they're jerking off instead.i would say that the discipline to work instead of crank it is a mighty stroke of genius.
>>537148580Can't break into the market anymore
>>537147890seethe more
>>537147972It does when my taxes dollars are going to him and when they let him into the government to harvest our data.
>>537148616sure ya can, you just gotta see what the world is missing and what it needs.that's always been the case.electricity always was, but it took a driving force to sell it.
>>537148717the data your isp already has that you pay monthly for them to gather in exchange for internet service?
>>537147890You are a loser.
He's a puppet boy by the shadows that be to slow drip demonic technology.
>>537148580Fuck off, PayPal is not complex whatsoever from an engineering standpoint. It was literally inevitable by every conceivable metric. Nobody should ever get rich from shit like that. People are making things literally millions of times more complicated than PayPal every day.
>>537147890it's pretty fucking smart using welfare an kike tricks to make yourself into the richest man ever, desu.
>>537148580You can't practically process credit cards without requirements that are neigh impossible to reach and you'd be fighting for shit margins anyway so no one will fund your disrupter. Visa and MasterCard need to be destroyed as well, along with all the scammy banks disguised as anything but businesses.
>>537148299>Why are you mad jeet? He didn't fall for one of your shitty scams?Becoming a trillionaire while never making a profit is the jeetiest, jewiest thing in existence
>>537147890Leftists are really ass pained about this The pain is realThe pain is deep
>>537147890Tesla is in the S&P 500 because it became profitable.... Because of government credit gibs. All of his businesses basically exist to scam tax payers.
>>537147890>>/pol/ supports thisthis isn't reddit you stupid hivemind loving faggot
>>537147890america is so good you could become trillionaire on their welfare for the rich programme!
Sounds like Elon is BASED.When will nu/pol/ hop off the Hunter Biden bus and ride the Elon rocket?
>>537149411>All of his businesses basically exist to scam tax payersThis. /pol/ likes to think that rich people like this don't effect their lives and accuse left-wing people of jealously. But Elon receives funding from governments that need to print money to remain solvent, causing more inflation. Tax payers money just keeps the fragile system from going into hyperinflation.Inflation robs us all. Assets become more expensive to obtain and dollars earned from working are worth less and less every day. Elon and his ilk are robbing us dry.
>>537148096You definitely have thats why your having a meltdown about it
>>537149411Not to mention every commercially successful Tesla model was invented by NOT Elon but rather the original owners. The CyberCuck is the only Tesla that Eloy can call his own design and it's utter shit
>>537147890Apple was once a company that “LITERALLY NEVER, NOT ONCE…” turned a profit.. until it did…
>>537148717Your tax dollars go to Raytheon. What has Raytheon done for you?
>>537149783Literally all of his products are shit for third workers>worst 'autonomous electric car's>satellite internetWhy the fuck would I need either? If you buy a electric car you're a faggot
>>537147890>launches rockets into space>most jew thing ever
>>537149135Let me guess, you’re an OpenAI guy? You’re mad that ACTUAL Jew Scam Altman didn’t make $1 trillion first?
>>537148157I am a bird.
>>537149830>Apple was once a company that “LITERALLY NEVER, NOT ONCE…” turned a profit.. until it did…Yeah except it took apple TWO YEARS to become profitable, from founding at 1976 and profitability at 1978Spacex hasn't been profitable FOR TWO DECADESnigger.
>>537149334Do you retards actually think Elon has a trillion dollars in his bank account? Kek you people are stupid.
>>537150004You wouldnt happen to know of all the kikes involved in space exploration at the same time as those guys, would you?
>>537149830Funds from the US government do not count as profit because it's not sustainable and it will be axed the moment the Jews stop running the U.S., if ever.Also, it doesn't even make sense. Spacex market cap represents like 20% of the US total GDP. But the company is funded by the US government. It makes zero fucking sense and anyone believing it is anything but a scam is a subhuman retard
>>537150103>Do you retards actually think Elon has a trillion dollars in his bank account? Kek you people are stupid.I never once implied that you retard.
>>537149411So you believe that the government shouldnt give money to any private businesses? Do you believe the government shouldnt give money to any individual too?
>>537147890he is more of the handouts guylike his pajeets
>>537149085>People are making things literally millions of times more complicated than PayPal every day.Then why don't you, and get rich?
>>537149334>PaypalHe sold this a few years after it became profitable
>>537147890i normally would agree but his jewmagic made pic rel possible so i'm cool with it. this is some fucking star wars shit that i'd never have dreamed was possible as a bright eyed white lad in 90s canada (RIP)
>>537150164If there were Jews in the space program they must have worked on the failed projects before they gave up and had our boy Wernher handle things.
>>537150079“Yeah sure they weren’t profitably but became profitable after two years, but I hate Elon so much!”lol stay ass mad tranny.
>>5371478902 more years! 2 trillion more in government subsidies and you'll see!
>>537150199I don't believe companies should be structured to abuse tax credits and gibs, no. I don't think it's honest that SpaceX to claim privacy and also get special privileges from the FAA and get a fuckload of gibs.
>>537150182Tell that to Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, etc. they’ve been supported by government funding their whole existence. Waaayyyyy longer than SpaceX.
>>537150380More complicated shit than thaf was done 80 years ago for fractions of the cost and with fractions of the fundingIt's all fake and gay
>>537150407>“Yeah sure they weren’t profitably but became profitable after two years, but I hate Elon so much!”>lol stay ass mad tranny.Sorry, remind me again how two years is equal to two decades?
Dont be a goy opIts clearly bs but invest and you can be rich tooI just put 25k space x and 10k in nvidiaI thought about nvidia back in the day and never did. Not missing out again. There will be more growth for space x but elon said space x will be working closely with nvidia to bring the futureI should be rich rich in 8 years
>>537150510then why didnt we have reusable rockets until musk paid for them?
>>537150498They produce shit for the military, you know, shit that's actually being actively used. Spacex doesn't do anything, it's purely speculative. They have some satelites with cold-war era tech that no one uses because we figured out a long time ago satelittes are garbage for fast communication - and they have a couple rockets. That's it. They're not worth $200B, let alone $2T.Also Boeing doesn't make most of its money from the US government
>>537150262What part of my argument requires me to be accomplished? You're just meat riding and you know the point I'm making is valid, brokie
>>537150199If the single mom starts to make Fortune 500 companies with the SNAP benefits, I agree with you. But we're talking about tens of billions to a single individual in contracts alone, not some inconsequential amount of money.
>>537150488As long as you have tax credits and government gibs you will have abuse. The thing is I get more pissed seeing brown, Somali niggers open scam childcare centers way more than I do about Elon and his companies, because I actually know people that work for Elon’s companies and are well paid and support families. And unlike the Somali scam centers or government nigger workers, Tesla, SpaceX and all the other companies Elon owns ACTUALLY provide value to the world and improve it in one way or another. Know what the biggest scam and abuse of government money is? Niggers (like you). And as long as we are paying $2 Trillion in benefits and services a year for niggers like you to be here, idgaf what Elon’s net worth is.
>>537150567His company has been public for 2 days faggot
>>537150686Because retards like Trump and the Republican party have been cutting NASA's funding since the cold war
>>537147890But OP, don't you get it? He's going to make money in the FUTURE! We're investing in the future! We'll all be rich because sometime, we just don't know when, Space-X will solve all the world's problems and we'll all be rich!If we live to be in our 200s....which we will, because he will make us immortal!!! YAYY!!!!
>>537150929Apple was profitable before they ever went public, so, once again Nigger.
>>537150791You’re a fucking retard. Starlink is considered a vital technology for the Ukrainian army and it enables them to use their drones. And geosynchronous satellites do have high latency because they are thousands of miles away from earth, unlike Starlink satellites which are only around 500 miles above earth’s surface so you have extremely low latency. Within 5 years starlink will offer 1 gb/s download speeds.The next major space indistry WILL be Data centers. In space you have unlimited sunlight for energy, and the side of a data center not facing the sun will be -200 degrees. This will make running a data center in space much more appealing because you won’t have to deal with environmental red tape, pissed off people protesting the building of data centers in their community, etc. EVERY MAJOR COMPANY KNOWS THIS! This is why Google is one of the largest shareholders of SpaceX. SpaceX will have the rockets that get Google’s, as well as every other AI company’s data center assets into space. No one comes anywhere close. Elon has the rockets, the data to train AI, the hardware to build data centers, everything that is needed to completely obliterate the competition in the next leg of the AI race. Elon has it. No one else does.
>>537149411And people are too stupid to buy shares of it so they can make some money themselves
>>537151560>Starlink is considered a vital technology for the Ukrainian army and it enables them to use their drones.Stop, I already hate Elon and his company enough!
>>537147890t. Hasan Piker
>>537150841We spend trillions each year in benefits for non-whites. From food, to education, to employment, to medical care. And all of that money is sent indirectly to Kraft/Heinz, Coca-Cola, Pfizer, Wal-Mart, and every other trillion dollar company. Mom and pop shops don’t benefit from it.
>>537147890My company has never made a penny over the poverty line.
>>537151739Is this from Dumps children's book?
>>537147890first of course he's jewish you fucking retard his name is literally hebrewsecond he's not the richest man alive at all, most of his 'wealth' is tied up in assetshe's not even a trillionaire he just has bullshit assets estimated to be valued at a trillion which again is bullshitthird us currency isnt worth the money its printed on
>>537150591Hi Elon
>>537149411Wow… you know you’ll never be a woman.
>>537150797The point you're making is that it's not a difficult task to accomplish, so why don't you do the rational thing and do it yourself? You're not a monk.
>>537151042Investors believe this but you know better. If all those dumb bastards were just as smart as you they would be rich like you, amirite?
>>537152680Because it already happened and also my personal ability is irrelevant. Can you bench 500 pounds? I doubt it but that doesn't mean a human benching 500 was never going to happen. Is this how you were bullied into being a lolbert cuck?
>>53715156Noooo, my bussy hurts now. Elon is a meany.
>>537147890>found a company that has literally NEVER, NOT ONCE turned a profitYou keep telling yourself that
>>537148721This was easy when the internet just started growing. Too bad I was too young during that shit. Now its all lame, gay and jeeted
>>537152970>Can you bench 500 pounds?The difference, retard, is that YOU are the one claiming building Paypal was easy. I didn't say it. You did. If you had so much foresight into what was inevitable at the time (and not just succumbing to hindsight bias like most retards), why don't you use that foresight right now to build the next inevitable thing? You'll exponentially improve your own life as well as the lives of your loved ones. There is objectively no reason to not do it since it's as easy as you say.
>>537153287Nigger, thousands of other companies tried to be PayPal first and their limitations were never technical but 100% regulatory or financial. Give me 1 reason why the government shouldn't just provide the service of PayPal non profit. What innovation would be lost?
>trillionaireMeme economies need meme "trillionaires".
>>537153456>Give me 1 reason why the government shouldn't just provide the service of PayPal non profit.Ok why shouldn't the government just provide ALL services for everything non profit? Do you have a problem with profit or do you have a problem with things being too "easy"?
>>537153727I already explained multiple times why I think PayPal is uniquely worthy, not going to repeat myself to an illiterate insecure sped that got his manhood shamed into lolbertism
>>537153835So we should create a council of experts (i.e. you) to decide whether a business idea is too simple/predictable, then instruct the government to seize those businesses. Lol.
he never would've gotten where he is without being a jew. his first business, Paypal, was/is dodgy internet banking shit and only jewish elites are allowed near that industry.
>>537153727I have a problem with the government using banks to overprint our money hence deflating our purchasing power and putting not only us but future generations in debt via usury and feel they only deserve death:)
>>537147890Because amerizog literally controls it's population of goy cattle with money printer.
>>537147890I don't think you understand modern capitalism or profit.
>>537147890He’s a grifter and most people keep giving him money
>>537147890This is the entire economy these days. Investor-financed meme companies exploding with purely speculative value, the govenrment and fed propping them up because if the bubble bursts there's a recession. And actual businesses get starved out and eventually bought up by private equity which has figured out that you can cannibalize a company's long-term health in exchange for short-term gains, so that you can shrink the economy while making it look like the number is going up.2020's America is basically the 1980's USSR. Gerontocracy. Misallocating capital. Shrinking economy. Zero meritocracy, even in the military. Elections where only pro-establishment candidates are on the ballot. And when things finally collapse, it will just be an opportunity for the foreign looters occupying our country to find new ways to expropriate us and rape our women, just like Russia in the 90's.
>>537152007No he isn’t. Haha you’re a schizo.
>>537150854Man you’re dumb as fuck. Bet you look like pic related.Elon “stole” government subsidies for his EV cars while barring the competition. His xAI is trash compared to even Chinese AI. You are literally putting your money into dogecoin thinking you will be rich, because that’s what Elon does, he endlessly grifts. He has an 85% voting share in spacex. Absolute stupidity. What if he dies? His company just tanks? Lmao. Fucking brain dead peons
>>537151560And here is it. An Elon fanboi who went all in on the new dogecoin
>>537154116Not what I said at all, concession accepted. You don't have any idea how primitive PayPal is. It has no unique in-house security features at all. It's literally just a database of bank creds tied to a user login + gov regulatory access. That's it. Name 1 analogous business. You can't. It's just a middleman on a credit process. So your strawman is shit. I think you're one of those crazy retards that just tries to argue losing arguments for fun to see if you can
>>537147890Jewpal is a crock of shit. it never would have been possible without the help of jew bankers. its was and is an illegal bank. i can put money in. i can put money out. its a fucking bank. however it's more than that. its a jew scam. remember when they launched they simply gave every new member $10 cash. where did that shit come from? people have been using jewpal for 20 years and never paid them a dime. yet jewpal made lots of money and led to bigger companies?
>>537147890>Leftist Steve Jobs plant>Why do Nazis live this guyTiresome
Also the whole data centers in space is the new underground car tunnels. Just another bullshit meme, and he claims he will restrict these data centers to xAI only which is fucking DOGSHIT the worst frontier LLM. No one uses, if they do, they’d get laughed at.
>>537156237Yes they're all shysters
>>537152132lol hello fren
Starlink alone generates like $18B in profit every year. This recent IPO turned a few thousand working class wagies into millionaires overnight by the way.
>>537156380>Floating boops in space generating revenueThey said it couldn't be done
>>537147890Here you go lads, my shit attempt.
>>537156472Template, also shitty
>>537156380And thats where the new frontier will be fought. In space. ...spacex will build the weaponized satelites and rake in the ww3 profits.
>>537155455shut the fuck up you projecting jew
>>537155824>people have been using jewpal for 20 years and never paid them a dimeThat's not true, there's a fee for certain transactions. If you are a seller you are paying paypal a few pennies for the fee of accepting a payment from your buyer. Paypal makes money by the concept of small fees from hundreds or thousands or possible millions of transactions. Unlike a bank, which just makes money out of absolutely nothing.
>>537147890everything is fake, everyone is gay.
>>537150938thats a bullshit lie kek, it went up under trumps 1st term and down under obama.it hasnt really changed much since the 90s.
>>537147890Seethe, libturd shitskin.
>>537150004>>537147890>>537150403Wernher von Braun is literally Elon Musk. Having perfectly matching facial aesthetics is mathematically impossible. Wernher wrote a book about a fictional character who conquered Mars named Elon. He's an immortal fallen angel trying to deceive the masses. Elon, like a divine being, Elohim.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvIpATPWS4o
>>537147972
>>537147890SpaceX is an internet company, the internet part of SpaceX is called StarlinkStarlink makes billions of dollars every quarternot exactly a trillion dollar company but a very profitable and respectable companyThe "space" part of SpaceX like the rockets and the trips to the moon and mars and shit operates at a 690 Milliion dollar a quarter loss but the 4 or 5 billion Starlink makes each quarter makes up for that loss and then some.Its only when you include xAI when SpaceX is not a profitable company, xAI is a 15 - 20 billion dollar a quarter LOSS and thats the problem.
>>537147972Dont you understand supply and demand?if someone has a trillion theres less avalible for everyone else.
>>537147890>Leaf seething over SPCX having a higher marketcap then the canadian GDPI made $300 today thanks to Elon.
>>537147890Do you yids ever stop bitching?
>>537148157LOL you are a literal subhuman retarded species. The projection is top tier thanks for the laugh kike
Lots of seething third world poors in this thread.
>>537157551>>537157635>>537157637>>537158144Hey retards get your noses out of each other's assholesActual revelations here >>537157228
>>537157551The government demands it and he sort of provides it.I don't see the problem.
>>537147890They claim SpaceX is going to BIG things!Would Shaheeds fired from Cuba have the potential to hit his company town in Texas?
>>537147890He has more wealth than your shihole country.
>>537154486I agree.>>537155775>You don't have any idea how primitive PayPal is. It has no unique in-house security features at all. It's literally just a database of bank creds tied to a user login + gov regulatory access. That's it.Literal retard, your entire argument is that you think the business is too easy and therefore the founders should not have been allowed to profit from it. I don't think you realize how asinine your position is. >Not what I said at all, concession acceptedYou might legitimately be too stupid to even contemplate the implications of what you're saying.
>>537159492>yes, you were right, I can't name 1 single business that's a talentless rent-seeking middleman existing only though government fiat producing absolutely nothing of value like PayPal, thus nullifying any broader implications of your call to have PayPal seized by the government. I was absolutely wrong and grasping at straws, I did that because I'm a combative neglected faggot that can't argue in good faithThanks
>>537147890The Art of the Grift.
>>537147972He bought my fucking government
He doesn't have $1TrillionHe's a character in a Truman Show
>>537147972wrong, retard
>>537160429>name 1 single business that's a talentless rent-seeking middleman Nice moving the goalposts. You must think yourself highly intelligent.>producing absolutely nothing of value like PayPalWhy did people use it?>thus nullifying any broader implications of your call to have PayPal seized by the governmentOk, walk me through your actionable solution, step by step. From the moment an insecure jealous crab like you determines that someone else's business doesn't meet your personal standard to be allowed to profit. If the government were to listen to you, what would you like the government to do to satisfy your grievance?
>>537147890>profitsYour tiny hat is showing
>>537149085every kid is Jr HS computer class in the 1970s had the PayPal idea.They were all told they'd go to prison for 30yrs for "counterfeiting" and "bank fraud" by the Secret Service, and "lol, you think you are smarter than big banks".ditto with Uber. not even the Mafia would fuck with the Taxi Commission.then one day.....
>>537147972>His products dont affect youThey will when the xAI drones with starlink uplinks and your life signature from the Doge data he pulled to autonomously hunt you down. You'll understand how this CIA stooge "made" all his money.
>>537155775>You don't have any idea how primitive PayPal is. It has no unique in-house security features at all. You're kinda a dumbass for arguing that PayPal never had a unique advantage in its market since 1998. It's a global business that provides services to many countries (not just the US) through its scalable technical infrastructure and trusted networks. If you think that any regular guy could just spin up a competing business to it in the current day and be very successful, then you are massively retarded.
>>537160978Why do people use roads, EMS and public school? They don't generate profit. So why use them? In fact, why are these run by the government?Because putting out a fire is solved. There is nothing new to learn. It needs to be funded to exist because it's valuable but it doesn't need R&D. Make the argument to have for profit fire services. What can the free market add? Fuck all. Nothing personal about my standards, PayPal objectively invented nothing. It's just an extra fee on a credit process for a middle man. You've replied to me like 10 fucking times and you STILL can't think of 1 other company that fits the uniquely unworthy criteria like PayPal. You can't keep doing this broader implication COPE while being unable to name anything else like PayPal. You'll fail to do so in your next reply because you're a retard and I'm right and you're wrong.
>>537147890yes saar profit is most important we must scam as much as we can to make the most profit
>>537161186Holy fuck it's 1 fucking row of data per customer in a fucking secure database. It's fucking nothing. The government effortlessly does the same goddamn fucking thing every day with your SSN, passport, driver's license, etc. There is absolutely nothing sophisticated going on that's a product of PayPal itself.
>>537161563Hi, someone new to the thread just shocked by how ignorant you are.>>Because putting out a fire is solved. There is nothing new to learn. It needs to be funded to exist because it's valuable but it doesn't need R&D.>>Nothing personal about my standards, PayPal objectively invented nothing. It's just an extra fee on a credit process for a middle man.You think electronic payments and the systems for certifying and keeping small scale vendors was "solved" back in 1998? Not to mention making it all compatible with different financial systems from around the world AND making it scalable? That was solved?
>>537147890Some people make some people, him, Obama, Biden, Trump, all media and music retards. The man behind the curtains is true, it's not a conspiracy theory and it's all really big shit.
>>537161793Yes you fucking idiot, you share some encrypted traffic with a bank and then link it to a transaction ID that's linked to the UserID. It's fucking nothing. There are rinky dink software companies doing this shit everywhere handling billing security. PayPal was just the first to get the government green light.
>>537147890A skynet IP is a nafo IP
>>537161563>They don't generate profit. So why use them?Nice strawman. The question was not "why would people use a service if it doesn't make profit". Are you able to visualize images in your head?>It needs to be funded to exist because it's valuable but it doesn't need R&D.Except it did need R&D. The founders spent years building it. If was as simple as roads and schools, why didn't the government build it? Why didn't you build it? Someone else build it, invested a great deal of their time and resources, accepted all the risks, and it made them profit. Merely having an idea does not entitle you to the fruits of manifesting that idea.>Make the argument to have for profit fire services. For hundreds of years, communities collectively agreed to fund fire services. Communities did not collectively agree to make Paypal.>What can the free market add? Fuck all.The free market created Paypal. Lol.>PayPal objectively invented nothing. It's just an extra fee on a credit process for a middle man.Paypal provided value to thousands of businesses across the planet and millions of users. You're upset because you think someone you politically align with should've provided that value instead.>you STILL can't think of 1 other company that fits the uniquely unworthy criteria like PayPal.This is because you've reductively misrepresented the value the company provides, and are demanding that I name other successful businesses that confirm to your false description. It's the same as:>Facebook lets you talk to people. They're just a middle man providing services that require no innovation, and therefore should not be allowed to profitYou are really dumb bro, sorry.
>>537148673nigga you earn minimum wage. You are basically a jeet. You are lucky Elon isn't president or all you white jeets would be evicted.
>>537161949Except that banks didn't used to use all that. Ever wonder why it's called "wiring" money? Because orders were sent by telegraph and then by phone. Paypal is an innovator in exactly what you just talked about. Transaction IDs and UserID exchanges at a consumer to consumer level over the internet. You are retarded.
>>537161786Look man, it's clear that you've never made software before based on how much ignorance you are exposing here. I can easily debunk your "1 field bro!!!!" argument by pointing out that they have a fucking phone and webapp that store personalized info per user that extends past just a bank account number, which is actually not even enough info on its own to make a transaction between banks. I was right about you being a massive retard.
>>537161949>It's fucking nothing. There are rinky dink software companies doing this shit everywhere handling billing security.This is the Dunning-Kruger effect btw. But even if your reductive description is accurate, what if Visa or MasterCard invented the equivalent system first and integrated it into their company? Since they would have increased revenue from this service that you don't approve of, should the government then seize that component of the company? Or should the government only seize it if a small group of people invent it?
>>537147890I don't give a fuck.Bitching about it will not change your lot in life.All you impotent bitches do is screech on this board while never putting words to action.
>>537162034No retard, it's actually very easy to list the things that Facebook bought to the table that's innovative. Entire algorithms designed to drive user engagement with targeted content, suggest friends, target ads, etc. PayPal has nothing like that. All existing shit in a totally inevitable configuration. Only exists because the government permitted it. Try again.
>>537147890nigger
>>537162291>it's actually very easy to list the things that Facebook bought to the table that's innovativeThat... was precisely my point... Lol I think your neurons are starting to misfire. Envy is a motherfucker, I get it.Other anons itt have already pointed out the same innovations that Paypal brought to the table.
>>537148208u jelly
>>537148460>companies being profitable at IPO hasn't been a thing for a long timethis.if a business idea is profitablee immediately from day one?its already been done.look way back to USA today newspaper?everyone said it wouldn't/couldn't work.so they planned to operate at a loss for projected ten years...and they thus created the first true national newspaper.which even if I don't like the USA today's point of editorial view, I respect what they did.ELon has the money and the reputation to get something big off the ground and keep it afloat long enough to see where it might go.and a LOT of "big things" started off as something almost any CS student *could* have done...but they *didn't* and that's the point.NAPSTER was just freely available FTP software the creator put to his own use, and look how big that turned out.if this stuff is so "easy", why haven;t (you) done something?curious.
>>537148673>seethe morethisOP whining someone else is more successful than they are.
>>537162142Banks process transfers via the internet as well and you're not denying the brainless simplicity. Cope.>>537162159PayPal didn't start with an app and also the app has nothing innovative either. A log in with some personal records. The DMV has the same thing. Cope.>>537162194Credit card companies have innovative reward structures for certain consumers and take on debt and risk. PayPal does none of these. Try again.
>>537147890The whole space industry is built on a promise of a better future. We dumped hundreds of billions into NASA and ultimately all we got were memory foam bed toppers. People buy the dream, not the reality.
>>537147890wtf we should give all the money allocated toward his contracts to poor niggers to spend on kool-aid and pineapple
>>537162507Such as? Encryption?Nope. Secure databases?Nope.High volume traffic processing? Nope. Their only innovation is getting government permits first. You're the real socialist here, simping for the government picking winners and losers.
>>537162664>>Banks process transfers via the internet as well and you're not denying the brainless simplicity. Cope.Now they do, way back almost 30 years ago, they definitely did not. And if it's all so simple, why did no one beat Paypal to the punch? The internet became "public" around 1993 if memory serves. That's 5 years for something so brainless. Could it be that there are actually major regulatory and banking hurdles associated with it and how the software is made? Including fraud, which was rife in the early internet?
>>537162664>Credit card companies have innovative reward structures for certain consumers and take on debt and risk.Wait a minute. So you're saying that only established companies that provide other services you approve of are allowed to profit from added "simple" services? But if a small group of guys in a garage create a "simple" service that millions of users across planet earth found value in, the government must seize it from them? Lmao again, I don't think you realize how stupid your position is.
>>537155686No he didn’t. Grok is infinitely better than DeepSeek. The only AI model that beats grok is Claude. ChatGPT sucks ass. The SpaceX IPO was only a 4% float you retard, what do you expect? It would be absolutely pants on head retarded to sell off over 50% of your company today because of what Jews have done in the past. They print out however much money they need, buy a majority stake in a company and have a hostile takeover.
>>537155764lol you’re a moron. Probably a tranny too.
>>537156572>Everyone who doesn’t live in a trailer park or ghetto is a Jew.lol shut up you schizo faggot.
>>537157551Again, what is it with idiots thinking that Elon has a trillion dollars in his bank account? How are people this stupid?
>>537147890Elon Musk was seen attending satanic rituals alongside Nathan Rothschild at the age of 12 according to an SRA victim
>>537162835>why did no one beat Paypal to the punch? Why is anything the first anything? Someone had to be first. >Could it be that there are actually major regulatory and banking hurdlesPaypal had to share its security methods with the government to get regulatory approval for banks to accept their transactions. That's it. Later down the line they probably had end to end encryption with the banks too but again that's 0 technology invented by Paypal. >>537162857You keep moving the goalpost to some general principle of capitalism and innovation because you know I'm right and Paypal is uniquely undeserving of its middleman carve out made by government fiat. You are the socialist here. You'd have posted at least 1 Paypal specific innovation by now if there was one but you can't because there isn't.
>>537161182You’re a legit schizophrenic. You people need help. Please take medicine
>>537163348>You'd have posted at least 1 Paypal specific innovation by nowAgain, other anons already did. You choose to keep ignoring them. What difference would it make if I repeated it? Though it seems others need to repeat themselves often with you.>You keep moving the goalpostNo. My underlying point has been consistent from the beginning: a company that provides services that millions of people and businesses across the planet found value in should be allowed to profit. You, a bitter and jealous person, should not have the power to override the consensus of the market. My point is that it does not matter how "simple" you think the business is. Nobody else built Paypal. Banks could have but didn't. Credit card companies could have but didn't. Governments could have but didn't. Why should someone who took the initiative to invest time, resources and risk into it be penalized because you, His Great Celestial Majesty, say so?
>>537162766Says the faggot that defends Boeing Lockheed Martin and all other companies benefitting immensely from government spending. But whoah! Uh oh! SpaceX now has over a trillion dollar valuation after their IPO and that’s not ok because Elon Musk is a Nazi! And I know he is a Nazi because Don Lemon, who like to get fucked in his ass, eat cum, and fuck other men in their ass, told me Elon was a Nazi so I’m angry!!! Reeeee!!
>>537163873>other anons already didNo they didn't. They guessed, were wrong and coped.>a company that provides services that millions of people and businesses across the planet found value in should be allowed to profit.The "service" Paypal provides is squatting on an exclusive government permit that it got first. That's it. Again, you are the socialist in this argument.I'm all for the opportunity to become a hyper plutocrat if you actually invent something.You keep trying to play arm chair psychologist with me to hide the fact that you're the real socialist. The government picked Elon to win. He got the permit first to middleman leech on an inevitable combination of internet + paying for things. Why should someone get to collect billions of dollars from a system that the government could have paid 4 undergraduates and maybe 1 senior cryptography expert to whip up in a month with a budget of like 2 million?
>>537163892This discussion is about PayPal specifically, Lockheed Martin actually INVENTED THINGS. Cope
>>537148473He didn't found PayPal, he merged his gay x.com with Thiel's PayPal.
>>537148208But Elon and Jess Bezos didn't invent the first internet based payment processors or the first internet store. They both almost went bankrupt and had to work to defeat the competition. Jeff nearly gave up until he humbled himself and admitted that he is a poor manager and hired a management advisor to get his business back on track before it went out of business.
>>537147890> found a company that has literally NEVER, NOT ONCE turned a profitWhich company is that? Paypal? Tesla? SpaceX? StarLink?What’ll you be remembered for, shitposting on /pol?
>>537164367The competition wasn't in innovation, it was a difference in acceptable margins and holding out on loss leadership. There is literally no excuse for the government not to have thrown together Amazon (the store) and PayPal. They do not innovative. They ate losses until they could absorb the competition. College undergraduates could have made both their products in a few weeks.
>>537164295SpaceX has invented several things. From the phased array antenna, to the reusable, self landing rocket engine and lots and lots of other things in between. I honestly don’t know how you function being this seriously mentally handicapped.
>>537164676Damn, where did I mention SpaceX again? Can you quote me?
>>537147890>an afican the richest man in the world>the left lose their shitwhats the problem exactly?
>>537164726What retard comes into a thread about SpaceX and it not turning a profit to say “yeah, well PayPal didn’t invent anything..”I don’t give a fuck, this thread isn’t on PayPal. You sound like a salty faggot who didn’t think of it first.
>>537147890Just because you don’t have a grasp on the miracles of Jew magic dosnt mean we all don’t.
>>537147890He is MAGA trannyA son of TrumpI will ALWAYS support him Why? Because he triggers libs
>>537165445Eloy didn't think of paying for shit on the internet first either. He was just the first to get the socialist government handout of a permit to do so first. Cope commie.
>>537157551this midwit theory of thinking rich people sleep on a pile of money like a dragon or something is just wild
Elon Musk being a trillionaire does not directly affect me. Congrats Elon on a successful IPO launch of SpaceX!
>>537165560Yes, the plebs do not understand finance but lets keep it that way
>>537147890Elon is proof that it’s Jews and not billionaires who run the world. He is richer then any Jew and is a gentile but he was thrown out of office in less then a month.
