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>>>/g/109053735
>Since when was offering patches for the customer to apply and compile the same as distributing a derivative work? GPLv3 wouldn't have allowed Grsecurity btw but Linus doesn't want it

Since US Copyright law DIP FUCKING SHIT.
It is an annotation.
Thus a derivative work.

You want to fucking fight?

I am a licensed attorney:
Michael Birkmier
301 Ocea_n Avenue Islip NY.

If you want to fight we can fight.
You fucking people always claim patches are not derivative works and thus you can use any licensing scheme you want.

>SOURCE SOURCEEEE
A quick google gives these articles a lay person can understand:
https://www.dailyjournal.com/article/321580-software-licensees-generally-do-not-own-derivative-works
https://copyright.gov/what-is-copyright/
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Category: Public Education on Copyright

People (software developers) keep claiming that if you edit the source code of software, then generate a patch file, and then distribute that patch file: then you do not need to follow the licensing of the software you edited: because "it's not a derivative work". I have explained over and over again that it is an annotation. They say I am lying
The response is always something like this:
>"Since when was offering patches for the customer to apply and compile the same as distributing a derivative work? GPLv3 wouldn't have allowed Grsecurity btw but Linus doesn't want it "
(example from: https://desuarchive.org/g/thread/109047547/#q109053735 )

Could you, the US Copyright office, give your opinion on the eternal assertion that: [if a person or company downloads the source code to a Work, then edits that source code in-situ, (in this case adding code to make the thing more secure), and then generates a file that contains only the changes they made, with information within that file that allows it to automatically be applied to the original source code (ie creates a "diff" file), and then distributes that file with only the extensive changes and additions they made to the source code] that this is "not a derivative work". I told them it was a derivative and they must follow the source Work's license, but they call me insane and a skizo for thinking that.
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>>537156079
you're in the wrong fuckin place, Birkmier. you better run on home now. shilling your kikery doesn't cotton too well around here.
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>>537157801
You know my name and place.
Say it to my face dipshit.
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>>537157801
I've been here longer than you, sack of suds.
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>>537158451
chuckle factory. no one on /pol/ gives a fuck about your faggot linux situation. no one here is going to help you pilpul your way to riches in the court system. the types of people who give a fuck about the bullshit you are splaffing about here are the same types that we all want to see hung from trees. cockless faggots are the sorts of people who give a fuck about your faggot linux shit.

linux is a pile of trash programmed by faggots, niggers, trannies, and the finnish. it has always been and always will be a mmorpg larp for wannabe programmger faggots to write some pile of shit and add it to the already existing pile of shit that is gnu/linux.
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>>537156126
Transformation without intent to deny commerce of the originator is fair use brother.
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>>537158874
301 Ocea_n Ave Islip NY.
Say your shit to my face you fuck.

>linux is a pile of trash
Never said it wasn't.
> programmed
I debate against this. Hans Reiser and his russkies may have programmed. The rest of it is a hack job.
> by faggots, niggers, trannies,
Nope. It USED to be by: English, Jewish, German, and Russian, and some Polish etc.
>and the finnish.
This is correct, but he begged the hackers to help him after like 1 release.
> it has always been and always will be a mmorpg larp for wannabe programmger
Again: the only programmers were Hans Reiser (DoD contractor) and his russkie friends. The rest are hackers.
>faggots
Incorrect, everyone used to be straight before the CoC
> to write some pile of shit
Not debated.
>and add it to the already existing pile of shit that is gnu/linux.
That's the hobby.

Then they added a Code of Conduct and broke it.

How exactly is asking the copyright office for clarification going to make me "rich". Your money doesn't even buy what real money did.
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>>537159223
>>>537156126
>Transformation without intent to deny commerce of the originator is fair use brother.
You're trying to use the Oracle/Google supreme court decision here.
1) Grsecurity is not a transformation: it is an annotation
2) Linux was in the "security" biz: NSA linux. So yes they are trying to deny the originator it's station in commerce. While violating it's license terms (no additional terms are allowed to be added) (grsecurity adds a no-redistribution clause)
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>>537159290
>you fuck
chuckles, man. chuckles. you don't get how it works here. lockerroom talk you fuckin dork.

>Reiser
so he wrote a good filesystem, so fuckin what? I've been in the linux game since slackware came on a stack of floppies you could get in the mail if you didn't want to modem download it for 12 hours. torvalds has always been a faggot, he made a piece of shit and imitated an even worse piece of shit. somewhere along the way, everyone lost the joke that eunuchs, cockless faggots, are the only ones you can get to do that programmer shit. alan turing was a prime example of the sorts you can expect from programmers.

the truth is, linux and everything attached to it is a parasite attached to a parasite. it is nothing more than a rotten pile of trash already collapsing under its own weight just looking for the next gimmick to release to the world to try and stay relevant.

oh wow, they've implemented reverse falchigor encryption using fully homomorphic encryption along with kd-tree traversal authentication propagation networks on the blockchain in the new kernel release 4.48883.1.48.8.bingoBongoDingoDongo release candidate rgd34.2 and when you download it, make sure to upside down compile from source code all the hotloaded flatpak libraries to make sure that the rgb faggot lights are now linked to your emacs faggot terminal with ring0 access.

fuck linux and you for wasting your professional time on a fucking windmill litigation project.
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>>537156079
Theres a couple foxes in my neighborhood and they are a fkn nuisance
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>>537159290
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxKURvE9iI

how about this, I'll help you out on your Quixotic journey. stallman there is about the only person in the world who would give a fuck about what you want to do here. call him up, tell him all about it, and he will set you up with all the shit you need. ok, how's that? did I help you out on your path, no matter how stupid it is?
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>>537156079
You said you were going to find and kill me months ago you chickenshit retard. Is Michael Birkmier of Islip Jew York a spineless coward that can't even track down and kill one random anon?
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>>537160939
>track down and kill one random anon?
two if you are willing to be counted alongside me in his kill list. I was hoping his thread would get some traction so we could get some heckler entertainment. ah well, let's see who else he threatens.
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>he FLED
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>>537160018
>make sure to upside down compile from source code all the hotloaded flatpak libraries to make sure that the rgb faggot lights are now linked to your emacs faggot terminal with ring0 access.
...just when i thought i had my emacs set up how i like it...
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>>537156079
Based and Fox pilled.
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>>537160018
Everything you've said is true. I'm not going to pretend it isn't.
I started using linux in 2001 (Mandrake), then moved on to Debian, Devuan etc. Most installs are linux mint though since it's simple. Got into it because my toshiba laptop once fixed wouldn't allow reinstall of windows.

Actual programming involves first designing a system, and then implementing the design. Linux doesn't do this. (Exception is Hans Reiser: a DoD contractor).

It's just a hobby: like putting together a bird house.
Then assholes made it "professional"; the "Code of Conduct" is part of it. And destroyed the fun in it.

Grsecurity did this too: it used to be a fun almost video-game like experiance: then he got all serious and made it a business.

>*Note: The NSA Linux code might actually be programmed aswell and not hacked. I assume they do things by the book.

What angers me is that they took this hobby, and around 2009 started getting serious, here and there. Then whenever the CoC was added got very serious. Ruining the whole point of the toy.

And then they threw out all the people who helped them out before then.
It's like banning the creator of legos from using legos.

>fuck linux and you for wasting your professional time on a fucking windmill litigation project.
Isn't that most copyright litigation?
The only serious ones are the song litigation cases where they actually make some money off of it (or did in the 80s).
Alot of other copyright cases seem to be just trying to probe what the law actually is. The monetary rewards on a case involving a single professional photograph, for instance, are not astounding...

But since Grsecurity took something that was just for fun, and put on airs to make it serious: there should be a suit against them equal in scope and tenure.
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>>537160239
>stallman there is about the only person in the world who would give a fuck about what you want to do here. call him up, tell him all about it, and he will set you up with all the shit you need.
I did, he just said "I want to do something about it, but there's nothing I can do" etc
Years ago.

>ok, how's that? did I help you out on your path, no matter how stupid it is?
This is Copyright.
It's always about figments of someone's imagination.
Ownership is Dominion and Control.
If you don't hold it you don't own it.
Can you hold a piece of executable code with nuclear arms?

And how can you exert control over an idea once released?
Thomas Jefferson noted that because you cannot unhear anything: and an idea that is recited can not be un-known thenceforth: Copyright is a true contrivance.

IE: nearly all Copyright cases are tilting at windmills, since they don't involve actual tangable property.
But Grsecurity decided to sue Bruce Perens for his opinion (thus taking a fun hobby and making it serious business): they should be sued in-turn: and this can be done via a copyright lawsuit.
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>>537160077
>>>537156079 (OP)
> Theres a couple foxes in my neighborhood and they are a fkn nuisance

You should get a Russian domesticated one, why don't you? They're cute and nice.
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>>537156079
belongs in /g/

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