Picrel is the German subjunctive forms of "to be".These are the English subjunctive forms of "to be":• be• wereDid it ever occur to you that maybe English is not a great language?
>>537174579How is this making English not so great, what're the implications?
>>537174579If you don't need to express any deep thoughts then English is good enough.
>>537174579Clearly you don't understand how the language fucking works, you absolute mong. The English language gets the exact same end result elsewhere in its grammatical structure.
>>537175253I bet, his concern is more in regards of this's affects when transliterating the language into formal logic
>>537174579you're trying to trick us into using the metric system
>>537174579God chose English to be the language of the end times
>>537175253>muh all languages achieve the same thing they just do it differentlybrainwashed by school and that CIA plant Noam Chomsky
>>537174579LMAO! It's the language lolcow! You're still at it? What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Come on Bart! Say the line. Call someone uncultured swine. Please! That's what we're all here for
>>537175473>The absolute best showcase for this is Indirect Speech (Reported Speech). Because English lacks a dedicated subjunctive mood for reporting information, it is fundamentally impossible for an English speaker to remain perfectly neutral about the truth of a statement using just verb conjugations. German, however, does this effortlessly using Konjunktiv Ivery interesting, unfortunately i can't learn German anymore and as far as I know
>>537174579i agree. English is to literal now. it's the language of the Hylic
>>537175670NO social shame
>>537175601I enjoy his threads a lot, and I am going to stab you in the neck out of nowhere while you're walking the fucking street you stupid cunt, and there is social shame you can put me under to prevent me from delivering you the pain you very much deserve
English is a great language
>>537175742cool now say it in german
>>537175842i can'tThat's why they did it, so that one cannot write high
It's anglophone propaganda that the Berlin Wall was bad and that its purpose was to prevent people from escaping the East. The Berlin wall was good and its purpose was to prevent anglophone brainrot from entering the East. West Berlin was a containment zone. The matrix is thick.
>>537174579Which language are you using to communicate with everyone again?
>>537176009It did a shit job at preventing that then. It was pretty easy crossing the wall in that direction, compared to the other way. Tell me more about germany, swedecuck. You seem to be an expert lol
>>537174579if we wanted to speak german we wouldn't have let jews win ww2
>>537174579English is the best get over it
>>537174579English has some of the highest information density among all languages. It's pretty fucking great.
>>537176254This is a dumb metric frequently cited by anglophones. It only applies to simple language. Get into dense texts and English doesn't even have all the tools.
>>537176484>English has some of the highest information density among all languagesThat's total and complete bullshit.>>537176254Absolutely 100% bullshit graph.(For one, the concept of a "syllable" is completely different and not comparable from language to language.)
>>537174579Just BEE Yourself
>>537175205>don't need to"can't" is the correct word for most EOPs
>>537176484see >>537176486English sucks>Information ratesWorthless metric that only applies when the language is about simple things. Get into dense texts and English needs to spell things out constantly with acronyms, parentheses etc that inflected languages don't.To illustrate my point about information rates, see pic >>537176486. The German text has more letters. But first you need to delete one of seiner and ihrer because only one is used. Secondly there is information that's conveyed in the German and not in the English, namely which of the two possible antecedents the pronoun is referring to. Because English doesn't tell you which you would have to spell it out in English in a parenthesis, or restate the antecedent, or use an acronym, which adds to the number of letters. Furthermore the German text there says "des Neuen Testaments" while the English text says "the NT", which adds to the difference. For a fairer comparison it should be des Neuen Testaments/the New Testament or des NT/the NT. But then again "grammar textbook" in English was translated to "Grammatik".
>>537176079non sequitur
english is the greatest language for the Lingua Franca. It's poor vocabulary and simple verbs made it a very easy language to learn. The pronunciation is a bit difficult but you get used to it fast because there are so few words. I'm not even that good at English, just a c1 but I have to use a dictionary less when reading something in English compared to Spanish.
>>537176254>>537176484>mfw an englishcuck, whose language is simple enough to be mastered by pajeets in Bumfuck Bangalore thinks it's great>mfw retard anglocuck knows only one language and thus cannot even compare >mfw he relies on some stupid academic metric that says vietnamese is the most superior languagelmao
>>537178252Based. Anglophones always spam that worthless metric, they have nothing else to back up their empty claim that English is the best language, and even when I refute that worthless metric with >>537176486 >>537176805 they never have anything to counter with.
>>537178252>>537176552>so assmad he had to make a follow up post>hides his flagkek.you are still a jeet, even if you are from northern india btw.
>>537175203Not autistic enough
>>537178873He makes this thread a few times a day, majority of anons just tell him to piss off.
next you're going to tell me why it's so great that a table is masculine and a window is feminine
>>537177923>poor vocabularyThe English language actually has an exceptionally large vocabulary. You're just suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect as a beginner. English has approximately 1 million words compared to Spanish's 100,000 words.
>muh inflections- The dog bites the man.- The dog, bites the man.With only a single comma and no extra suffixes or articles, you, too, can invert the subject and the object of any sentence!
>>537179159table is masculine but window is more of an it
I don't know when I saw a good discussion on this board last time, or even this site. People here are so fucking dumb. No matter what you post nothing ever gets a discussion going. People here are jerking their dick with one hand and using the other hand to scroll, and occasionally type a few letters. I can't wait for the day they start chopping the heads off /pol/tards.
>>537179585You are literallly a NEET who spams ragebait threads on /pol/ every day. Despite being a parasite on society you've convinced yourself that you're useful and high status because you were taught multiple languages and need to flex that on others like a small dog barking.
>>537174579I can defeat this claim in one sentence, or more accurately - one word.Darf ich bitte Ihre Kraftfahrzeug-Haftpflichtversicherung sehen mein herr?Although nice try Ivan, Germanics won't do brother wars for your kike shill ass anymore. Russian gay ops are fail.
>>537179817>Ivan>RussianHoly shit australians are always so fucking stupid and wrong. Retarded anglo dog
>>537176486English is so lousy but you're writing it here, I'm not writing Swedish:)
>>537174579I prefer English
>>537179585I guess that's because of the English language. Wherever English moves it leaves in its wake a toxic wasteland devoid of oxygen. We're in the midst of what those who built the Berlin Wall fought against, people are suffocating donkeys in a coal mine which is lacking a canary, the matrix is too deep.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6nu7XisL3wI
>>537179553well, in the french language, which i was forced to study for seven years, a window is feminine. the french must be huge chuds because they have no genders but feminine and masculine
>>537179765>ragebaitYou rage because someone says german is superior to english? Lmao typical norf supporter.
>>537179971Soon you will be writing in Sanskrit.
>>537179971non sequitur, maybe learn both logic and other languages before you discuss anything at all
>>537180091kek based
>>537174579No, but it has occurred to me that German is an autistic language
>>537174579>the German subjunctive forms of "to be"And they can all be ignored apparently lmao, just like G*rmans
>>537180345again, that's a worthless metric>they can all be ignored apparentlyyou didn't back that up at all
>>537174579Conjugation and declension add nothing to a language. They don't make the language more precise, or transmit more information. All they do is make it harder to learn.
>>537180490M8 I'm sorry you Germs (yeah you're literally the same mutted biomass) had to adapt your language to retards who need to be spoken to slowly so as not to overload their tiny Germ brain>again, that's a worthless metricFeel free to say it a third time, stating something doesn't make it true
>>537180709No. It pays off when you read dense philosophical texts, for example by reducing the amount of syntactic ambiguity. In philosophy it's of great importance to know which word is referring to, modifying or governing which other word etc. In simple communication it doesn't matter, you can just restate antecedents etc. So for example in the pic here >>537176486 you choose ihrer or seiner to show whether "its" is referring to the grammar textbook pill or to the NT. In English you have to either go with the closest one, which isn't a guarantee, or restate the antecedent, or use an acronym etc. What usually happens though is none of those, but instead people write a text and forget that the person reading it doesn't have all the information that they have and aren't mind readers, while in German you don't even have to give it a second thought, it's clear regardless.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syntactic_ambiguity
>>537180718I backed up my claim, unlike you. Learn to read.
>>537180709>ConjugationI dunno anon, it seems to transmit more (implicit) information to know if a speaker is using a verb in a tense other than present. There is value in the same accuracy of conversation, but faster, as well. Kinda seems like you made an indefensibly spergy post.
>>537174579>Did it ever occur to you that maybe English is not a great language?Depends on what you need.If you need to express something deep, then no.If you need something so simple even a nigger or a pajeet can understand your commands, then yes.
>>537182716English is a language of explanation, what depth are you finding missing? Like your Eskimo asses, we also have many words for things like snow, to build nuance into the language. Though, you'd have to speak to someone capable of both understanding and using it that way.
>>537174579Remember side effects...you cannot speak German perfectly without spitting and drooling.
>>537182795>vocabularyAnglophones always get stuck at that. There's more to language than vocabulary.
>>537182795>English is a language of explanationWhat is this supposed to mean?
>>537183134>>537183178I didn't use the word "vocabulary", so your first post addresses nothing. Feel free to address what I said in my post. Addressing your second post (a twofer!), English is better suited to specific description rather than rapid communication. English carries less implicit information than heavily Latin languages, like Spanish, at a slower rate in conversation. A skilled English user overcomes that by selecting specific words, but that's a high level skill our populace isn't ready for in public education. Yes, niggers, additionally it's that most people just aren't using language for more than what they need, i.e. food, socialization and so on. Listening to average, uneducated speakers of English and Spanish reveals a broad gulf in how the baser or reductive general daily needs and desires are expressed. English is habitually slower, but it's primed to contain more specific details, through both vocabulary and structure. Since you're just whinging, allow me to complain that, with so many people imitating English speech, it's being lost of a world scale what good English should look and sound like. (You) don't know. It's secondary to you euros, and it shows when you try to chastise any but the most backwards nigger lipped retard on how they speak. The complexities and living nature of English isn't obvious to people to non-native speakers, and I think you should no longer be placated into thinking you have any authority on languages besides the tribal scrawl you still cling to.
>>537174579>Did it ever occur to you that maybe English is not a great language?its more blunt & straightforward thats for sure-
>>537183657>I didn't use the word "vocabulary"No, but you were talking about vocabulary.>muh all languages achieve the same thing, they just do it differentlysee >>537175473>muh there's another level of Englishno
>>537184015Vocabulary is part of my statement, but you aren't adding to the conversation or even critiquing what I said. "I don't believe you" and it's cousins aren't arguments. Shame we couldn't have a good chat together. You have nothing to say. Stop giving me (you)s and return to your longhouse. Civilization will be by again to lift you from your cold pagan ways, eventually.
>>537182604>I dunno anon, it seems to transmit more (implicit) information to know if a speaker is using a verb in a tense other than present.You'd think so but what's the difference between>I ate ribs yesterday>I eat ribs yesterday
>>537182108You don't need declension to make your antecedents clear, you just need to learn how to write.
Yeah, still not as bad as romanian though
>>537184142You have said absolutely nothing of substance.
>>537184353Yes he did.He told you that you were wasting everyone's fucking time by not explaining your reasoning"I said so" isn't a reasonGive a real one
if verb declining complexity was an indicator of intelligence, then the abos in Australia would have 300 iq
>>537184288You don't need language at all, you just need your dick.
537184353>Pot, meet kettleDoes that string even make sense to you? Can it?
>>537184445stfu retard
>>537174579kek, it just proves how english is much better. Do you also think that longer math formulas has greater values? Or a big book has beete ideas than a small?
>>537184516Did I strike a nerve in your ego?
>>537184249>>I ate ribs yesterdayyou had ribs less than 24 hours ago>>I eat ribs yesterdayyou're having ribs every Monday or June 15
>>537175742How many Dutch are learning proper German in school and not simply your weird German dialect called Dutch?
I will never use any language that needs genders for words. Absolute stupidity and over-complication.If I want to refer to a knife or a fork on a table, I'll just say pass me the knife or the fork or pass the knife to me on the left, I will just simply state what I want and mean.I don't need retardation
>>537180647I'm not a gamer but I like it anyway. German is for philosophy, English is for ordering takeaway. Total ghetto slave language.
>>537184644https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uPHi5xn_q5c&list=RDuPHi5xn_q5c&start_radio=1&pp=ygUQZGVyIGRpZSBkYXMgbGllZKAHAQ%3D%3D
>>537184644articles also could be abolished, in many cases they are useless. When you say pass me fork, it is fucking clear that you mean the fork
>>537184249Anon, please make a case for why conjugation adds nothing. My claim is that there's value in delineating between what has, what will, what is, and what could be. That "I eat ribs" COULD be an answer understood by the (or any) question asked doesn't render valueless the usefulness of specifically telling someone "I ate ribs". In that little example, one who eats ribs might always eat ribs. That's what they eat. One who's eaten ribs has told you 2 things: they eat ribs, and they're done eating ribs.
>>537184644I learn romanian and I do it just so that I can close the last gap between me and my personI think romance languages are silly too honestly not a fan of this shortcut, English has me more explicit and intentional whereas romance languages are all about bullshitting and being wishy washy and not saying what the fuck you actually mean
>>537184728German is just to make things complex where they shouldn’t be. The whole idea of scientific progress is to explain complex vague concepts in simple correct terms, clear for everyone. Not the opposite, to make obvious things overcomplicated.
>>537174579I mean even German is mostly periphrastic already
>>537184824Finally, an anon that's studied English enough to stop calling it a romance language. If I might, I don't know how one might study English and ignore the indo-euro base. I'd suspect you see similar things. I suggest that, though it's not perfect, English is a good lingua franca vehicle because it has that right balance of rules with reasons that stick around, and flexibility in how it lives and changes.
>>537184644English works as well as any language for simple things like asking someone to pass you the fork or for ordering a cheeseburger, correct. 99% of people on this board don't need anything more. Their entire life is grab cheeseburger, put in mouth, grab dick, jerk it.
>>537174579English sure is shit does it better than German.It wasn't so much the die der das shit that was a struggle, you get used to that.It's the complex suffixes.German's great otherwise.We should learn Intergermanisch, that doesn't have the gay suffixes that go "uh I sexually identify as a -tetet"
>>537184954English is just more evolved. When something is used extensively by many people useless things die out and it gets polished. That is why English has simpler clear grammar than german, but much larger vocabulary. But the main downside of German, it just sounds ugly as fuck.
>>537185089>sure as shitJesus christing fuck what was that
>>537184728Then go to >>>/int/ so you can talk exclusively in your own language and stop insulting my language and all those who speak it the same. If you hate my language so much then you shouldn't have learned it to begin with. You also go out of your way to continue to speak it with us here. Seriously, you don't like English? Then just live in the media of your own country. Watch Swedish film. Go to Ikea then>>537184954How the fuck do you spend more than 5 seconds thinking English is a romance language? The definition is clear dumbass you're making us look like morons right now for fucks sake!>Indo-euro baseWhat the fuck are you talking about? Do you mean like Indo-European? Man it's just a language don't get all philosophical about it and start doing the muh ancestor shit you're supposed to be better than this you fuck!>Flexibility in how it lives and changesYeah no shit, dick tracy. it's good that it changes over time, it would get stale otherwise>rules with reasons that stick aroundEnglish has rules that make no fucking sense and you have to learn to context switch or else you will sound fucking asinineFor example, you can "lay" on grass, yet "lay's" is a brand of a potato chip, yet to "lie" is to utter something that is untrue (knowingly) and you can "lay" pipe in an industrial context.English is HARD TO LEARN for ESLsBut English is hard to MASTER for ANYONE
>>537185049Man, it's like I said something like that earlier. Just in better English,because I actually speak it. >>537183657 It's of so little substance, you just accidentally repeated part of it lololololol
>>537185196Any language is hard to master for anyone, because they are not perfect and complete, they are evolving. “Mastering” language means you are really changing it to a better version by your writing or speaking, bringing something new or cut something useless.
>>537185089Dutch is just a German dialect and I understand 50% of it perfectly and 99% when I'm drunk.Dialects are a good thing and should be protected
>>537185196Anon, I didn't say it was a romance language. My post was criticism of those that do. Your reddit spacing is awful and you somehow copied and pasted from my post without actually understanding it. Silly on my part, I thought you were capable of reading.
>>537185196no such thing as my language and your language>random irrelevant anime girl imagejust seeing that I knew right away you're a fucking brainlet, English is a perfect fit for you
>>537185424Now you're a trolling retard. I am expressing confusion at how ANYONE could actually think that English is a romance language. You're the idiot here how fucking exhausting you are>>537185446>You're a fucking brainletOkay swedish bastard lets see your academic achievement, where is your academic prestige? Finished uni? Who are you?>>537185412I can understand bits of dutch, enough to read a news article, and I'm just an American
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>>537185446Swedish or even german now is rather a cultural artifact, not the best way to express your thoughts in modern world. But when you cosplay vikings pretending to be raping a village or imitate a hitler speech you do need german, to create a certain atmosphere and perhaps bring additional meaning to your performance. And this is what makes a person cultural.
>>537185528Maybe your lack of punctuation made it unclear. I realize from your posting (erratic, poor grammar and punctuation, saying "uni") that you are an indian on a VPN. Without a hand and timestamp, your (you)s are done. Thanks, please come again.
>>537185743>Uni>VPNJokes on you idiot, I pay for this fucking website. I'm not whatever boogeyman you ascribe to me. Grow the fuck up.
>>537185786Ooop struck a nerve on the poo>I pay for this fucking websiteYeah... The joke is sure on one of us... Why even admit that?!?!
>>537185528English language structure is German and English took many words from German too so for many words it's very similar.
>>537186478kys fag
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>>537186478there exists a project study ridding enlish from the french/latin/greek influence (the called it 'anglish'). at the battle of hasting one millenia ago for the leadership of britain the french normans won & rule over the anglo saxon plebs ever since. if the event never occured or the anglo-saxons had won english would be way more similar to german today-
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