You either breed, or perish.
>>537177251Greece is part of nato. They don't do shit.
>>537177251>we're smart enough to limit birth rates to provide more resources for individuals and sustainable growth>DURKA DURKA MOHAMMED JIHAD!!
>>537177251“The rich plays with his money while the poor plays with his wife” , Turkish idiom
>>537177251Europeans are too busy shopping and seething over Russia to have kids.
Have you actually spoken to a Turk?Show them that picture and they'll tell you it's all Kurds and migrants. Actual Turks in Turkey aren't having kids.
>>537177251>primitive roaches be multiplyingYeah no shit
Wealth is resources divided by population. Increasing population always lowers quality of life. Immigration should be under extreme exceptional circumstances of a citizen, not a foreigner. No not for refugees.
Turks raped Arabian Lawrence you know. Very homosexual race.
Thats why we should be nuking shitskins regularly, its not their planet we have a say too
>>537177251females throughout the West have betrayed their own nations at every single opportunity. instead of doing their duty of bearing the next generations they have shirked their responsibilities even as the men of western nations have excelled and surpassed all others. in the West we've put men on the moon and brought the entire world under our hegemony. and what have our women done in return? feminism? murdering our own children in their wombs? voting for ever more ruinous government spending and handouts for the indolent shit skins that they opened our borders to? WHY ARE FEMALES STILL ALLOWED TO HAVE HUMAN RIGHTS?!
>>537177251More turks for me to kill in the future Total roach death86 millions of Turks all to be impaled
>>537177340> uhm, goy, you need to limit your breeding. > for, like, sustainability's sake, goy> not for Jews tho, that would be antisemitic and illegal :^)
have u seen greek women?
>>537177340>>537177372>>537177479Any nation without a birthrate of 2 is in terminal, probably unfixable decline.You're in a global breeding war and it's winner take all.
superior turks
Turkey = r-strategyGreece= K-strategy
>>537177587>You're in a global breeding war and it's winner take all.Or just don't let them into your country.In the age of machineguns and other weapons of mass death it's not hard to do.
where i end?
I raped a nigger in the anus
hey grok make my dad eat my shit habibi
>>537177251Roaches are below replacement rate and erdog imports millions of arabs and other subhumans but that's okay because they're pisslamic too.Only Kurds and arapes are breeding in roachland and roaches will become a minority in theirnown country too.That's what they deserve for infesting Europe.
>>537177587>Any nation without a birthrate of 2 is in terminal, probably unfixable decline.>That's why all the people in countries with a birthrate above 2 would sell off their entire family to slavers so they could desperately move to all the declining countries
>>537177251Turkey is a good example why islam and democracy are incompatible in the long run, the population growth comes from the more religious part of the population, the more secular ones in the European part (with mostly greek and balkan ancestry) have low birth rates. Even if nothing else changes this will tip the scale in favour of increasingly more islamisation of the country.
>>537177551Because white people are fucking cucks
>>537177706> uhm, akshually with our superior firepower and technology it will take us four generations to go extinct and not twoWow, fucken told.
>>537177587>Any nation without a birthrate of 2 is in terminal, probably unfixable declinewrong it is not unfixable all that is necessary is to take away all human rights from females and to force them to perform their duty and contribute to the furtherance of their own nations by bearing offspring. men could make this happen trivially. we could snap our fingers and make this reality in our nations overnight. if we would just fucking stand together and cooperate and stop simping and stealing other's wives for one single fucking day. but oh no! no no no westerners just absolutely MUST simp and stab each other in the back! it's more important than anything! we could all have hot wives (just beat that bitch if she gets fat on you), we could all have home cooked food (beat that bitch until she learns to cook) we could all have clean well kept houses (do I even need to say it?)we could all have kids if we wanted thembut noooo you lot insist on stabbing each other in the back, stealing bitches back and forth, fighting over the fuckable holes, competing for the fatties and the uggos, settling for Chad's sloppy seconds and left over single mothers two decades past their shelf lives, passing STDs around, cheating back and forth, simping to an absolutely ruinous degree... and for what?!?! is this really better than just ending females' human rights and enforcing monogamy and giving men absolute power over their own households???
>>537177822> noooo you can't just take over empty land from a tribe that's going extinct, that would be, like, totally unethical!!1
>>537177587Immigration and birthrate will be the death of the white race and that's a good thing because whites are cuck faggots
>>537177251I wonder how much of this is cultural and how much of this is genetic. Both Turkey and Greece had similar economies, both are NATO cucks who have been drowing in American culture since 1945. Even Islam and Orthodox Christianity are extremely similar religions. I wonder why Turks then reproduced a lot but Greeks didn't. We need to do large scale genetic tests, dig up graves, and find out which women did and didn't have kids and if allelic frequencies can explain it.
>>537177955Turk alert. If I had my way, every minority neighbourhood in Western Europe would be full of ads for abortions.
>>537177587>You're in a global breeding war and it's winner take all.Bullshit. A wall and machine guns will win this war too. Only the political will is lacking, because there are too many traitors in positions of power.
>>537178024Tukey has a shitload of "minorities" and a shitload of "migrants" and "refugees" - none of which Greece has.
>>537178095>If I had my way, every minority neighbourhood in Western Europe would be full of ads for abortions.Completely unnecessary. In the second generation, their women do it anyway, at the same rates as local women. We should start by banning circumcisions and halal/kosher meat. And from there, gradually make their lives more unpleasant until they leave. At least under the assumption that we rule out violence as a solution, which I don't.
>>537177941Men wouldn't have to be ruthless about it just stop stabbing each other in the back like you say and stop piling money in front of hoes.
>>537177315>Greece is part of nato. Turks too, >They don't do shit.Right see what happened in Cyprus.
>>537177251Somebody has to breed and raise the next generation of goyim cattle. Most normies will happily step up to the plate and wage their life away for a chance to reproduce. I'm just glad that's not me.
Seriously though why cant Greeks breed? I thought they were based
>>537177251Native Europe is already gone. There is no mathematical solution from where they are. It's weird how some people still can't see that.
>>537178095read my other replies faggot whose grandfathers never fought for the white race.
>>537178311>2014
>>537177941>If everyone agreed with eachother(me) then everything would run perfectly!Wow, what a novel position
>>537177251Turks living in exile: 10 millionGreeks living in exile: 40 million
>>537177251>mfw Islam conquers the West within my lifetime.>>537177587This guy gets it>>537177941>take away all human rights from females Not possible in any liberal democracy. However, it will most likely happen in more Islamic countries once they see how the ideals of the secular, liberal, hyper-individualistic West lead to self-destruction, as they did in Afghanistan and Iran.
>>537177251The elites and corporaitons are pumping billions into anti-natal propaganda, so they have an excuse to import immigrants.Thinking you can counter that with a post on 4chan is silly.
>insects reproduce uncontrollablyyeah well more news at 11
>>537177251The bigger is not always better....you should know that.
>>537177390trvth nvke
>>537178583Citation needed.>>537178637Wow, I am sure that in the 1950s, Greek women in villages stopped having children because of the elites and corporations pumping billions into anti-natal propaganda!
>>537177315>>537177251Well as they say, the Greeks invented orgies.The Romans improved them by inviting women.
>>537178706This is kind of retarded attitude led us to where we are. Instead of seeing children as a bridge to a brighter future brain-dead retards like you reflected it as a backwards and uncivilised behaviour.
>>537177438>it's all KurdsDistinction without a difference
>>537178724>Greece>Doing betterI don't think so. Maybe 60 years ago.
>>537177251I simply don't believe the population numbers. The population growth doesn't make sense and isn't it a very weird coincidence that the countries with more stable governments and drinking water just happen to have very stable populations? It goes up a little due to some new technology and then it corrects itself and goes down a little.But then you look at third world countries and it's going up 200% 300% 50000%. I think they are full of shit. Who is tracking all this? The Turkish government? The Indian government? The Nigerian government?Do you think they track every death and people aren't just shoveled into a hole? The dead don't get reported while scammers cook up fake identities which get used for fraud. Turkey does not have a population above 20 million.
>>537178842having kids at 2.1 replacement rate is one thing. doubling your population every 20 years is subhuman behaviour.
>>537177340Only brown people think "more population= power". In the age of technology and nukes, population numbers don't mean shit. Third world trash are incapable of understanding why overpopulation is bad
>>537177479Third worlders and brown people can't comprehend this. That's why they are overpopulated dirty shitholes
>>537177551This too. White women are freaks, mutants. They aren't feminine and a lot of men aren't interested in them. White women are the cancer of the white race
>>537178957> our race went extinct, but at least we had le nukes while we were dying out :^)
>>537177251> turkey is 5x the size of greece(which is scattered into tiny islands)that's like asking Cuba to outbreed America
>>537177551Girls get recommended the big black cock for their first time online because niggers are allowed to make social media accountsRecommending big black cock is so evil. It actually injures them.
>20% of births in Greece aren't actual Greeks.
>>537178842fucking nordcuck kys
>>537177251Neat, now let's examine the inbreeding rates
>>537178936Melt yourself to death in a sauna.>>537179254Germany is a shithole.
>>537177251Look up what happens to population groups that exceed their carrying capacity.It's not pretty.
>>537179314Yeah thanks to faggots like you
>>537178842Try as you might, it's basically impossible to meme the idea that having lots of children is high status. The social value of high fertility is context dependent. In religious contexts it can be seen as a command from God. In a harsh Darwinian environment it correlates with gumption. But in prosperous, more secular environments it signals low impulse control and low status, because there are fewer good reasons to have lots of kids and pregnancy becomes more accidental due to low IQ dysgenic people not being able to control themselves sexually either via abstention or by birth control.So good luck trying to counter-meme the low social status implications that high fertility has in secular and prosperous societies.>protip it's not gonna happen
>>537177945>Chimps capture the empty nuclear power plant>Have no fucking clue what to do>The nuclear power plant is full of shit and dirt, just like everything in the chimps homeland>The cycle repeatsBragging about owning a pile of shit and dirt is not something to brag about.
>>537177251How did a feminist dumpster fire shithole like Greece even breed from 1960 to 1990? Those are probably immigrants no way they had positive fertility after feymale empowerment.
>>537179395>But in prosperous, more secular environments it signals low impulse control and low statusThis wasn't the case until the 20th century. Rich people always had a countless kids and bastards while the peasants were constrained to how many they can actually feed. It was common for peasants to kill newborns that they can't afford to feed. And yes like all harmful trends this will also end. In Norway richer people have more children than poor ones already. It's time to heal.
>>537177706>>537177941>>537178113The degree of action required to save the people of any country exceeds the degree of action that would destroy the continuity of that nation as a "state"Whites will survive, but no "country" as they currently stand will survive.
>>537177822They're coming to kill you and eat you moron not to share in the blessings of your lifestyle
>>537179395You're an incel and you've never touched a vagina. You're not prosperous in any way shape or form lmao. It's fucking pathetic seeing men in feminist shitholes pretend they prosper in any way. Privileges > everything else.
>>537177315>Greece is part of nato. They don't do shit.Turkey > rest of NATO (Excluding United States, and Poland)
>>537177251I will perish Then I will never read your faggot ass unoriginal OP again
>>537177390The average greek feels more kinship with russia and hates nato but our mafia leaders kneel like dogs waiting for a treat in front of america and israelThat's why when ukraine war started we sent planes before anyone had even considered helping, like children rushing to be praised by their abusive father
>>537179928Unlike the rest of Balkans, you were created by English and French idealists and German royals. You have nothing to do with Russia.
>>537180032Russia is a Freemasonic economic zone.Greece is a Freemasonic economic zone.They have plenty to do with Russia if you commit a crime in Greece you will be prosecuted in Russia and extradited and vice versa.
>>537179499I could list different environments in more detail but aristocracy as a biological lineage is dead and gone in western civilization, so aristocrats historically putting a lot of value in securing their lineage is not super relevant to modern, secular, egalitarian societies. As you have probably heard, history has ended. No one seriously disputes individualist liberalism anymore, and trad aristocracy just isn't on the table anymore. That's not going to change unless there is a literal collapse of civilization, but then your rational arguments pro and contra would be moot anyways.>In Norway richer people have more children than poor ones alreadySauce?>>537179727Cringe retard gypsy, you are exactly the dysgenic filth I'm talking about. Kill yourself
>>537177251Turkey's population shouldn't be over 30 mil. Hell it would be nice to have only 20 mil. Excessive breeding like retards make everyone's life miserable. Greece did the right thing, Turkey didn't.
>>53717725180 replies and nothing productive has been said to this interesting and valid take. Is this the power of nu-whites? Just say you don't want to breed with whores, even if they're white or whatever culture you have, but the problem is they all (or atleast most of them) are. Why are they whores? Because you're a basedboy beta cuck wanting to die fighting for israel or against russia for eurocuck autocrats or just working for your jew boss and this jew capitalism. Yes, you're all absolute niggercattle. Of course this gives women the ick and they turn into whores, because they have given up just as much as you have and indulge in hedonism, while you indulge in retarded extermination fantasies while laying in bed all day, instead of doing something productive. Sometimes I think all the good ones died while fighting with him in Berlin.
>>537180032We have orthodoxy and similar values as well as russian-greeks
>>537180428It's really small potatoes compared to 9 billion people
>>537177251They forgot to add Germany
>>537179456> we didn't want the land of our ancestors anyways
>>537180032>Unlike the rest of Balkans, you were created by English and French idealists and German royals. You have nothing to do with Russia.Modern Greece was *literally* created by Russian glowies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ioannis_Kapodistrias> In 1809 Kapodistrias entered the service of Alexander I of Russia. His first important mission, in November 1813, was as unofficial Russian ambassador to Switzerland, with the task of helping disentangle the country from the French dominance imposed by Napoleon.This is a general rule - scratch any country's inception myth, and you will find British or Russian glowies there.
>>537178338This.
>>537177251Making the border into an effective killzone is also an option.
>>537177587>Any nation without a birthrate of 2 is in terminal, probably unfixable decline.lol no. stop advocating for importing infinity immigrants
>>537177251>Greece in 2026Lmao. We are no different than Mexico.
>>537177479>Wealth is resources divided by population.Holy shit. First time seeing someone else using this equation. I've been touting it for so long that I've almost given up it catching on.
>>537184347έλα ρε μαλάκα we still have roads ahead to reach Mexico's sheer love for criminality
>>537177587Mass doesn't equal power, the OP's image is a textbook case why that isn't true, how are we still here if that power model is true?
>>537178113You can also creep the wall forward slowly. if you want to
>>537178799>improved
>>537177251>Turkey’s birth rate, measured as the total fertility rate, has fallen to 1.42 children per woman.
>>537184586Ah the jew tactic.
>>537185276No country in Europe is even close to replacement rate. Which would be a good thing if we didn't import ungodly amounts of migrants.
>>537177251In 1900, there were more ashkenazi Jews than Egyptians, or actually more than any arabs put together
>>537185534The only countries that is comfortably over the replacement rate are literal shithole countries were either women have no right to education (or rights in general) or where most people live in rural areas and mostly work in farms and similar, where there is no real state giving any welfare and everyone has to rely on the family.So far there is no country that has been below 1,8 birth rate for a longer period who has been able to climb over 2,1No matter where in the world it isTLDR yes Europe is fucked but so is most of the world also eventually
It is scientifically feasible to depopulate Turkey in 48 hours.
>>537180032All made up bullshit to deny us being a legal continuation of Byzantium and Rome.
>>537185468If it works, it works. No need to not use it just because the bad guys do it.
It only gets worse as when the generation get smaller the mateguarding becomes even smaller. I am in my 30s and the people saying dating young women is easy are imho lying. Not because you are ugly or not worth enough but because the whole society is trying to cuck you, it is the female paradigm it tries to push you to get with run through women because boomers, women and general society wants to help women more to procreate than men. Western society is biased in favor of women. I am now rather dating a younger foreigner than getting with a local woman so I avoided being with an old hag but I am sure I couldnt realistically date or marry with a 10+ years younger with a local Austrian woman despite being above average
>>537185923>smallerI meant harder, the mateguarding becomes harder. Boomers simply want their loser daughters move out and while they are willing to give the guy fucking their daughter at 16 a beer they are seething when you are with a younger woman instead of them being able to push their walled 30+ year old daughter on you so they can make her childhood room a hobby room full of niggerball sports trinkets
>>537177251Those are Kurds and Syrians tho
>>537185912Castle and treb creep just depletes the map too fast, granted I'm more turtle than agro castle creep. I know there's a place for it, but when trying to play diplomacy (we're just taking "no-mans-land"), directly castle creeping isn't going to be seen as good faith, they're clearly aiming for additional annexation/conquering.
>>537177251this would've been more alarming 100 years ago, Turks themselves have been tamed a lot by secularism, their birthrates have plunged except in the east with Kurds, young western Turks are probably hardly that different in mentality from young Greeks
>>537178024Because beside a few parts of western Turkey which were Balkans-tier poor, it was a dirt poor third world shithole in the 20th century since most of the people were literally nomadic Turkish and Kurdish tribesmen whose lifestyle hadn't changed since the day the Ottoman Empire was founded. But then they got access to modern medicine and a semblance of healthcare so they could breed like rabbits. In contrast Greece was already relatively civilized and also lost a few hundred thousand people between WW2 and the Greek Civil War plus had a bunch of emigration since Greeks were allowed to immigrate to the West while nobody made the mistake of letting Turks in until Germany needed "guest workers."
>>537177551>woman seethingKill yourself jeetReminder the majority of these insane women posts are all bitter discord meets who don’t get any pussy. Not saying women are perfect by any means but these posts specifically are all discord jeets
>>537177251isn't it the kurdish population that is birthing the most children? Turkey also have a large refugee population.Turks are as fucked as europeans desu, especially the secularized turks in the western part of the country that have to deal with eastoid religious rural retards and kurds
>>537177251... yes. A country with 1/50th the farm land as the other is going to have the same population capacity.
> this a global breeding war hurrrr>only birth rates and numbers matter hurrrr ddurrrrr>see we browns are so numerous and having kids hurrr durrrr>drops a bomb on you to undo all your efforts in a single dayYou monkeys realize your numbers a birth rates account for nothing when we can just undo all of it with a press of a button. Should have spent that time developing weapons instead of raping each other monkey. Catch you later
>>537186535> America will use nukes for the benefit of WhitesDont make me laugh, if anything they drop them on Europe because Israel says so lol.
>>537180032That "we belong to the west" or "east" shit is the curse of our nation since the 1400's. Whether the western or eastern minded folk agree or like it or not, the reality is that Greece sits at a civilizational crossroads and after the 15th century it lost the ability to define itself on its own terms bec, and what's an English/French/German faux-intellectual construction is the “west vs east” mantra that became dominant in modern times.So we aren't either of them, we are inherently both, and both east and west powers better start treating Greece as a coherent civilization with its own continuity or may your vcr chew all your tapes!!!
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>>537186689>coping monkey noisesOhhh ohh aahh what? I don’t understand? Do you want a banana or something? >because Israel told you toWe literally just ended the Iran war against their wishes Israel is old news and on the way out. Their influence is a pale shadow of its former self. And nobody said anything about nukes. Regular bombs are sufficient.
>>537186975Keep voting Drumpf fool, 2 more weeks
>>537187124>he thinks I vote lolI have never voted even once in my entire life for anything not even in schoolI do not vote or consent for anyone to have power over meCope and seethe monkey lol I saw through their propaganda from childhood.I was born to win
>>537177251ah yes Denmark is billions. Of Pajeets tho
>>537186125No, I understand that and I wouldn't advocate doing it. Just that these things need to be said out loud for them to enter public consciousness. Once you have the political backing, you can start doing it.
>>537177945>birthrates fluctuate a little like they have for the past 500 years>AIIEEE THIS IS LITERAL EXTINCTION 2012 END OF THE WORLD THE AZTECS PREDICTED THIS>>537179698That's not what the argument was, you illiterate retard, clearly birthrates have fuckall to do with the "decline" of a country when the exact opposite effect is observed in reality>b-but muh invashiunNiggers can't invade shit, that's why kikes and traitors in your government have to forcefully bring them in and suppress your actions against it, they should, of course, be beaten to death with all the other low-grade trash if you don't want any shitskins polluting your lands.
