Why is Russia putting AA sites on top of civilian buildings, knowing it will make them legitimate military targets? Are they stupid?
>>537189209AA System in question
>>537189209Either it's not an occupied buildingOR they think Ukraine won't dare kill that many civilians
>>537189209To shoot down drones mi6/mossad and NATO smuggled into Russia to blow up oil refineries
>>537189209I would totally prefer it to be places on my building
>>537189209In Belgorod you hear Pansirs working every night for years, they are very good.
>>537189435What did Russia do to them to deserve this treatment?
>>537189606I B Y H P W E N F Y T A V G I W T P I T B P O M YPIPIP, MY BIG HEAVY TV WONFT PAT MY WWHAT DOE SI TM ENA?
>he pretends that ukies don't target civilian buildings since day 1
>>537189209>Are they stupid?Dumb as fuck.
>>537189209Those are primary targets so other drones can reach their objectives, yea.
>>537189242Are they any good?
>>537189209>Are they stupid?Very.
>>537189694Why didn't they get these this morning then?
>>537190146They get btfo regularly by drone strikes. They often fire into apartment buildings.
>>537189209highly likely russians will be building automatic point defence systems around cities and industrial areas and PMCs with mobile air defence to protect assets from cheap dronesin addition to that a lot of infrastructure will go under ground in next decadesbtw, all post ww2 buildings around the world had air defence posts, so there is nothing new under the sun
>>537190263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=828xmcujEaI
>>537189209>Are they stupid?
>>537189209They're launching a new scheme where private businesses can pay for anti-air units to protect their property. Pretty neat.
>>537190618If I had it my way, all high rise building would have anti air batteries on them.
>>537189209>why defend civilians with military when NATO terrorists target civilians
>>537191339I agree
>>537189209This mp4 is more proof of Russian superiority, that helicopter can lift heavy objects with one engine whereas westoids need two engine Chinook for the same mission
They need the PR boost of a bunch of dead civilians so they can bomb some Ukrainian hospitals.
>>537189209>civilian buildingsNo such thing, thats why we keep losing wars because we don't do what we did in WW2 which was to bomb everything.
>>537189209>make them legitimate military targetshohols drone them anyway.
>>537189209human shields. duh.
Can someone explain what is the Russian plan here and how strategically they will act from now on? I mean should Putin strike harder? What TF does he have to do? We are in the 4th year of the war and I know there is NATO behind Ukraine but every "expert" was declaring Russian victory already after 2 months of war, then how come Ukraine can still hit so accurate and hard then? If let's say the war stops tomorrow who will go home with more than it had before the war, Russia or Ukraine?
>>537191868I think that Russia is just simply fucked, just like America was in Iran. Even the puppet Presisent of Belarus openly announced that he will stay out of the war lol
>>537189209Americans put anti air systems on top of buildings too. Look it up. It’s common practice. I’m sure Ukrainians have done this as well.
>>537192188Ukrainians have a better strategy, they put military bases in kindergartens and schools. If it is important meeting with NATO generals they just do it in the basement of a gymnasium without cancelling the classes. It happened many times.
>>537192345I mean, it shouldn’t be surprising. The whole country is used as a meatshield for NATO.
>>537191868someone form the inside will kill Putin and all this shit will endPutin is too old and too retarded to do anything to stop this
>>537191868plan?
>>537189242What does TKB stand for?
>>537192345I just wish the war spreads further so Russia can bomb civilian objects without too much backlash in russian speaking internet. Like who cares if you kill germans or poles, but hohols will complain in russian and probably will have relatives in Russia. That is why NATO uses this meatshield tactics very efficiently therefor now.
>>537191868the plan is to do the same up to 2036
>>537191868Russia has ground everything it had against a wall of Ukrainians and come up with nothing. It's over. Now it's just waiting for someone to take out Putin who cannot admit that simple fact.
>>537191547>two engine Chinookonly one engine and a mechanic transmission.Also if it fails, it falls like a rock, while regular helicopters act as parachute.
>>537189209>>537189242I thought that was a bear from the video
>>537192631Chinook has two engines, one on each side
>>537189209From what I learned throughout history, it's always finding a way to assert dominance over high ground.
>>537189209Many Russian leaders want the war to escalate so they can go hot with escalation dominance. I think it’s a smart move since the war is just grinding men down and going nowhere. Soon Russia will have a reason to escalate and you’ll see all those leaders in Ukraine flee to Europe.
>>537192345>they put military bases in kindergartens and schoolsLies, it's done in a soviet garage
>>537189209AA is airspace defense, the enemy shouldn't even be in their airspace trying to bomb their cities. Ukraine needs to accept defeat already. This is ridiculous, they're completely out od soldiers and relying entirely on foreign aid. They were defeated years ago.
>>537192894What happens inside the HATO garage?
>>537191547Are you retardeded?
>>537192856>Soon Russia will have a reason to escalateLmao. Escalate with what?
>>537192934>they're completely out od soldiers and relying entirely on foreign aid. They were defeated years ago.Yet Russia can't move forward and is getting bombed deeper and deeper back into the stone age.Have you ever considered you are wrong?
>>537193072.Depends, ig.Retrofitting of vehicles, or actually maintenance.Remember the CoD game? It's like that as well.
>>537193072HATO things
>>537192934you have to accept that you are a troon, saar
>>537189699To NATO countries? Absolutely nothing
>>537193255Cope, finally we have butthurted nafoid here lolRussia just took Kostiantynivka with minimal loses, more than 15:1 in russian favorPayload delivered to ukrainian targets (drones, missiles, artillery and bombs) is around 200-300x times higher than few strikes nafoids manage to deliver inside russiaSimple as that
>>537193470>Russia just took KostiantynivkaSource?Pokrovsk status?
>>537193470>Russia just took Kostiantynivka with minimal loses, more than 15:1 in russian favorLies. Simple as
>>537189209Tallest buildings give the best radar coverage. Also russians dont care about their own population dying.
>>537193679Pokrovsk was captured last year, idk what you Nafoids smoke thereKostiantynivka is in V shape killbox with encircled ukrainian soldiers inside>>537193695copebtw today its already encircled
>>537194084>encircledSo the Russians are losing? You said it was taken just a few minutes ago.
because ukrainians mainly attack civilian buildings
>>537191868The plan was to take Kyiv in 3 days and Ukraine in a week. The plan failed and now Putin is fucked. One thing that will never be forgiven in a dictatorship is overt failure and losing face. Putin is just delaying the inevitable now.
>>537193168The only thing russians have not thrown into the fight is nukes, but they are not allowed to do that because their Chinese and Indian masters disagree.. Or perhaps full mobilization, but that would be politically extremely risky and would just throw masses of underequipped and untrained bodies into the meatgrinder.
>>537193470>Russia just took Kostiantynivka with minimal loses>minimal lossesDoubt. The truth is, they took an irrelevant patch of dirt after massive losses.
>>537189209Israel does it lmao.
>>537192559So you are admitting this war is just a nigger chimp out by the Russians and they want to kill as many whites as possible? Okay cool
>>537192110>>537192440>>537192593>>537192608>>537194903I mean pol was calling this a civil war to kill as many Russians and Ukrainians as possible but how can at this point Russia and everybody there look at this and not get at least uncomfortable with the results? What will happen next even after they assassinate Putin?
>>537191623in total war civilians are treated as labor force of enemy but I don't think russia/ukraine are in total war yet; kiev hasnt been carpet bombed into an image of gaza
>>537196169I think pic related has something to do with it
>>537191868Russia has over 35 million men of draft age that she can mobilize at any time. Most of them are very patriotic, capable of fighting, and have completed 2 years of military service. Putin has delayed mobilization only because he doesn't want to destroy the Ukraine and kill as many Ukrainians as possible, because he still considers them brothers to Russian people. The Russian army has been acting in a very humane, accurate way, unlike the Ukrainian Nazis and their German forebears from over 80 years ago. However, if Zelensky refuses to sign the deal within the next 3 months, Putin will announce total mobilization, and 10+ million Russian soldiers will advance on Kyiv, Kharkiv, Odesa, and Lviv within weeks and capture all of the Ukraine by New Year, leaving nothing behind them but ashes and death.
>>537196635>What will happen next even after they assassinate Putin?/rcwg/ is born.
>>537200223>MemeflagThey can't even afford vpns anymore.
Maybe Putin wants more war support so he's baiting the way to commit some atrocities ?Secondly Ukraine is already bombing civilian infrastructure anyway so it's not like being "civilian" will help.
>>537190207>>537192894RARE
>>537200547I'm not Ukrainian. I'm just on holiday.
>>537192631>itz lige muh bemwu
>>537193072Cumpit dugout duh
>>537189242>Patsu-SMD
>>537189209this is what "winning" looks like. pedorussia is winning big time...
>>537189209>I am a little girl I turned 9 yesterday why is artillery stationed on a hill?
>>537201190It's not artillery and that's not a hill.
>>537189209Russians are niggerlovers and nigger adjacent.
>>537191547>Mil Mi-26 Max Payload Capacity 44,000 lbs>CH-47F Chinook Max Payload Capacity 24,000 lbsIt's so over.
russias war failed when thet couldn't capture kiev in zergrush. anything since is just slow but certain dyingat least burgers are a little more smarter and gave up 4 months in when they saw they lost
>>537191868>what is the Russian plan hereSame as ukrainian plan, and same as it's been since the start:Maximize goyim casualties on both sides.Cull fighting age males.Replace with niggers and jeets.Implement Great Reset memes.
Ukraine is already striking targets within Russia.Putin has been very moderate in his response, but there are a lot of radical elements to his right that want to go straight to using nuclear weapons to force an end to the war.You can decide how that sounds.
>>537191868Ukraine has literally zero future. No one on the pigger side wants to talk about this which is why the discourse is always on Russia, but Russia has effectively destroyed Ukraine demographically, economically, and even culturally. They've based their entire cultural zeitgeist on being not-russian, how the fuck are they gonna demilitarize and switch to peace time? Russia was like 3/4ths their trade partner before the war, it's already well established that western europe doesn't want their shit. How does the EU bureaucratic ideology justify suspension of democracy for years because of war, kidnapping people off the street to send to war, and so many talks of deporting Ukrainians from abroad back to Ukraine? I remember 4 years ago Ukrainians telling me they would get a magical bail-out like the Marshall Plan that would rebuild their country. I've yet to see that drafted.Russia is basically just waiting for Ukraine to fall apart. It can't or doesn't want to exert much more and Putin is clearly too retarded or too apprehensive to commit more when he probably should've bombed the entire Ukrainian command staff years ago. Militarily, neither side can win and no one seems to be cooking anything up so it's basically just pointless battle of egos.
Mi-6 was way more kino than -26
>>537201389Yes, you are dumb kike who skipped physics in school. Domineering height means radar coverage goes further, radio horizon grows with altitude, removal of radar and missile obstacles such as buildings, trees, hills, mountains is a plus.
>>537202860That's got nothing to do with why you dumb fucking yokel losers are placing military targets on top of civilian residential blocks. You dumb fucking yokel loser.
>>537189209Ukraine already bombs civilians in RussiaSo why would they not put it on civilian buildings?If Ukraine were bombing military targets they'd deploy them at military sitesUse yer brain
>>537202860Oh, and, let's not pretend you've got any ammo for your shitty air defence left anyway. Which is becoming VERY fucking obvious.
>>537203172Sometimes I sit for a good 10 minutes just marveling how based you guys are. Unfathomably based
>>537202685>Putin has beenA coward, senile coward with dysfunctional testosterone generation due to age.>radical elementsNot radical, reasonable. Entire soviet and russian, by inheritance, military doctrine is centered about usage of nuclear weapons, tactical and not so much. Because USSR understood very well what it cannot win against NATO meat shield without it. Full scale war was never planned without nuclear usage. As to wage with war against far more numerours and rich opponent you have to cut the corners in order to close the gap difference. Meaning use nukes.Irradiate western ukraine to cut logistics from Europe, strike soviet ungerground bunkers(which could only be destroyed by nukes) and be done with it.Globohomo will send as many hardware and needed, only hohols themselves and limited resource. So there is only two answers to war - cut logistics by nukes, or focus on genocide of hohol men. I find the cutting logistics with EU by nukes more appealing.Also Iran showed to everyone what kikes afraid only when you do not have any red line and strike them with all available might where it pains them the most. Irradiatied land right at Poland border can refresh the fear among those who think they can fight Russia without consequences for themselves through hohols.All good russian people vote for nukes usage.
>>537192631>Also if it fails, it falls like a rock, while regular helicopters act as parachute.all helicopters can autorotate to land with engine failures dumbass.
>>537203053>That's got nothing to do with whyDumb kike is deflecting as usual when caught by hand for his poor education and low iq. What a subhuman bunch you are, kikes.
>>537189209I bet you they put a kindergarten class on the very top floor or some shit lmao. FSB has a prewritten statement about the atrocities of naZi oink rain and this is the last straw, etc, etc.. *yawn*.
>>537201034More like passing-air weapon
>>537189209Subhuman savages always hide behind civillians, like Muslims for example.
>>537189209These are known as 'military asset composed to soft intelligence assets', brother. They get air defense and an enriched pretext to say their enemy are villains
>>537190146They're russian, so no.
>>537189209Pantsfullsir
>>537190263Lol, orks never could into guidance systems.The russian way of making war is to fire indiscriminately in the general direction of the enemy and hope that you win by sheer volume of fire.They are such shit lmao.
>>537191339That makes it easy to conquer cities then.Just flatten everything since all buildings become legitimate military targets.
>>537201919mogged
>>537204056If you had bothered/were able to read the thread you might realise just how stupid you sound. You imbecilic oaf.
>>53720272726 was the biggesti wish russians just focused on making helicopters and combat simulators
>>537191868It really does come down to precision systems.This is something the Russians have never been able to figure out.Control systems are hard.As for what the Russians can do? Not much.Putin fucked up.They are in the worst possible situation where they committed to military action but failed to follow through.Their allies across the globe have been getting fucked and they cant do anything about it.The US took Venezuela, turkey took Syria, and the only thing that saved iran was chinese intervention, orks couldnt do shit.No matter what putin does next he is fucked.The best case for russia as a country is that putin dies of "an accident" and the Duma uses his death as an excuse to sue for a cease fire that they can let sit indefinitely like the situation in Korea.
